what pretty privilege is: Pretty privilege works on the principle that people who are deemed more attractive—based on societal beauty standards—have an upper hand in the world and are afforded many opportunities that us regular folks don't have.
To a point, yes. But if one relies too much on that advantage they don't develop other necessary skills. And when they get older or have some kind of accident then their (perceived) beauty is gone.
Beauty is a potential trap for the possessor and the pursuer.
Beauty is also a test. To see if one becomes an arrogant jerk or if they have character and integrity and kindness... or not.
This is a very good point, and very true. I know of several women and a man whose identities seem to be pretty wrapped up in their looks, but their lives are a complete mess, as looks really only get people so far, especially if they have whacked out ways of thinking and doing things, or are just incredibly self absorbed. I know another woman who has used her looks and sexuality as a way to get what she wanted her entire life, but is now getting closer to 50 and beginning to lose her looks, and I sadly think she will be lost when she no longer has that to rely on. It's actually pretty sad.
Absolutely it’s a very ancient predilection in the human race. It goes back to hunter gatherer times. Many of our behaviors have been determined by the evolution of human society. It stems from breeding and females are and always have been in charge of that particular human need.
You need a certain modicum of physical attractiveness to experience this.
However the real 'secret sauce' of this 'privilege' is self confidence and grace/ graciousness.
So a woman who is a 7/10 physically may go to a 9/10 in terms of pretty privilege with that secret sauce.
A woman who is a 9/10 physically will go down to a 6/10 in terms of pretty privilege if she has no character, grace or charisma - and a 4-5/10 if she had a truly obnoxious attitude.
That said, a woman who is 1 or 2/10 physically will not be able to take advantage of pretty privilege, no matter how much confidence or charisma she has.
I'd say you basically need to be a minimum 4-5/10 physically to even have the possibility of experiencing pretty privilege. But if you are 4-5/10 physically, you need to have an amazing personality for the privilege to kick in. That is, you'll need to bump yourself up to a 7 or 8/10 in terms of pretty privilege.
Someone who has just an average confidence and personality will experience pretty privilege only if they are minimum 7/10 physically.
Yeah I think it exists. It happened to me. I took a karate class back when I was 18. There were only three girls in the class including me. Almost all the guys, even the sensei were into me and gave me special treatment. They were super nice and always trying to talk to me while they straight up ignored the other two girls. I remember this one time I was leaving and one of the guys held the door open for me and one of the girls was walking like five feet behind me and he didn't even hold the door for her he just let the door close in her face. I didn't like how the other girls were being ignored, like I wanted all of us to be treated the same. But dang that was such an ego boost though for me. I had like guys falling all over for me. It was a crazy experience.
that's kinda tough to know 100% if it's because you really are attractive or if it's cause your a 5 but the other two are a 1 and 2. If you don't think there is any logic to my point then play a video game like sports or anything with guns in it and turn on your mic and say hi... try it! lol
@crg253 😮 diss. Well I think I'm attractive. Even though I know you are trying to make a possible situation realistic. But I've never had issues finding dates, not to toot my own horn. But I just don't want to put myself down. I dont want to be one of those people who has zero self esteem and lets other people throw even more dirt on their none existent self esteem. I don't want to do that to myself So no sir I will not agree with you that I am a 5.
Yes of course, people treat you better when you look better. I have experienced this several times in my life and it has remained in my. The first time was when I was a child and I was unpopular and sometimes bullied by classmates. When I entered the early teen years, this changed and the same boys were treating me better. And then this happened later in my life too. I have been lucky to experience both, as my beauty is not exceptional and on same days I don't give to much attention to my appearance and some other days I try to look good. Appearance has a great impact on people and dressing good too. In the days that I'm feeling down I get my hair done and I try to make myself look good.
When I think about this topic this movie and this particular scene comes to my mind:
Definitely and I'm finally seeing it for myself. Back when I worked with all men I always got help and made friends easily with everyone. Now I work for a big company with many extremely beautiful woman manly eastern european women I can't compeat with not many people want to know me. I get some people talk to me but I don't have any close friends and the men that talk to me are either kind old men or desperate guys. There's one really beautiful polish girl at the company I'd say she's the prettiest girl in the company and she's really nice too and all the men flock to help her and she definitely knows she's the prettiest and loves it. Whenever I see her she's got a man following behind
@Bob0077 it's just the way they are. Some are total skip/ pick mes but straight men are just wired to be attracted to good looking woman and there's nothing bad about that.
Beauty comes in the form of the boots no 7 range.. Scrub it off and just the standard bog standard everyday normal looking person there's a reason we have models... Who are privileged because of their looks Then we have insta *models* who whine because they dont have a quarter of the beauty as real model does. there's comes from a tube.
Life is unfair, always has been always will be no point whinging.. Them being as they say fat has nothing to do with it.. Adele was fat ahe was successful, Sophie dahl was fat amd successful, beyonce though isn't fat is a bigger woman is successful... Maybe the girls that are whibing just have to realise there is absolutely nothing special about them, regardless of being fat or thin
It does to some extent. In the long run being part of the pretty privilege can be bad, because when that person is young they get a lot of guys interested without having to do much work. In the long run it can be bad since most of the guys would be interested in the looks rather than the personality. Often times when a privileged person who is prettier than everyone else dates long term or gets married they become high maintenance, high ego and don’t have the people skills and character for a good relationship. Often they don’t learn very quickly in relationships since they get what they want. A unprivileged girl has an easier time figuring out if a guy really likes her and has interest in marrying for personality and finding guys that want to get married rather than be used. It won't always be easy, but there's pros and cons from both sides of the spectrum. Some guys just like having someone who enjoys sports with them.
In Asia and South America I am considered very hot stuff. In the USA I am less than disgusting. Women trash me and run off in the name of freedom to be single moms, drunks and get married 3 times or more. It all depends where you are.
My friend, a very pretty Russian Girl, is Considered super model status in Korea. In Russia, she’s as average as hell. Exotic Phillipina chicks in the USA can often be considered fat, lazy slugs that nobody would come near in their home country.
I've seen it happen, dated a girl who was very pretty and could talk her way out of a 100mph speeding ticket, so long the officer was a man who liked women.
I can't talk myself out of a ticket going 1mph over the limit, but she could break the law all over the place and talk her way out of it.
She also got promoted at work (we were co-workers) way too fast, her knowledge and skills were lacking but she was so cute the managers promoted her into a job she had no clue how to do right.
It’s natural that if you look at something, find it cute, it calms and relaxes you, psychologically speaking you then equate it with positives even if they’re one sided positives you can begin to dote on the “pretty” in question and it will lead you to being kinder to them.
which is why people, no matter who they are or what they look like. Will always receive more positives if they’re smiling. People enjoy smiling. some have it naturally, others have to improve themselves through tasks to make their attractiveness increase.
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No. There is only White privelage. Not everyone can actually be bought over with prettiness.
plus prettiness is so subjective. I have higher standards than most so whatever is pretty to you will probably be a 5/6 to me. I mean for me to say someone is pretty they need to tick almost all the boxes that come under features which determine conventional beauty such as perfect teeth placement, strong maxilla, small jaw/v-shaped jaw, big almond shaped eyes, arched and high eyebrows, plump lips, flawless skin, thick hair, hourglass body... etc...
by your first sentence i personally think you aren't attractive and then i read more and I'm like shallow ummm unintelligent... mean... so now I'm actually thinking you're gonna make some old wealthy guy very unsatisfied someday gummin u down till he trades ya in for the newer year model! 💯🤣
of course it's real. No one said life was fair. It's a brutal existence for many. I've benefitted and also not from it. I notice a big difference if i go outside with a smile on my face vs if i'm just not feeling good that day. Close friends always had my back on that but strangers can be brutal. I had gotten 2 job promotions for my height though. But those were physical. Still better paying and full benefits though. And women seemed to like me more when I was calling the shots.
Of course it exists. Attractive men and women get away with a lot of stuff ugly folks can't. Attractive men can borderline sexually harass a woman and occasionally get away with it, ugly men can be rejected from across a room. When I was 16(?) I was a pretty fat kid (5'6 to 5'8 and around 180lbs or more). I asked my coworker if I had a chance with another coworker and she legitimately laughed at me. Like a hearty, punch to the gut laugh. Probably the worst experience I've ever had with any woman ever. She tried to play it off by saying she had a boyfriend but it was too late and I honestly think if I hadn't expected a no I would've cried my eyes out. I couldn't imagine her laughing at any other guy... so yeah I was pretty devoid of attractive privileged at that point
i get a lot of privilege, not from being handsome etc, as I’m not, but from my accent, showing respect, flirting, knowing how to ask and talk to someone.
I get good discounts on things, I get a table at a full restaurant, etc.
Those who are "deemed more attractive"? No, those who ARE attractive. Don't try to lie and pretend that beauty doesn't have an objective basis in nature, that it's all just what we've been conditioned by society to accept. Pretty priviledge - what a load of malarkey!
I think it can be a double-edged sword. On one hand, yes, attractive people receive better treatment in ways than less attractive ones, but on the other hand, they also get worse treatment from people who are jealous or resentful of them (I've seen this happen a million times, especially between women).
I know several pretty women who said the downside is that a lot of men think they are dumb asses. I don't know why men would equate beauty with being a bimbo.
@Bob0077 That may be true, I'm not entirely sure. I wouldn't know why, either! I think they probably have to sort through a lot of men who only want them for their looks when trying to find a serious partner.
And the problem is that these men will pretend to be their friends just so they can go out with them for their looks. If she finally discovers the truth she will be upset at all the time she wasted.
Absolutely, and I think it’s really obvious. I know I have experienced it many times, walking away from an interaction thinking “that would not have gone the way it did if I were less attractive.” or along those lines.
I have also given privilege to pretty people over unattractive people.
More like there's a spectrum from having zero positives to all the positives. An attractive person with a so/so personality is in the middle of the spectrum. A less attractive looking person with a better personality is higher on that scale when dealing with people who value more than looks. A fugly person with a bad tude is at the low end of the scale regardless of who they're dealing with.
Also -women get more mileage out of their looks because it's mostly some simping or simp catering men who are in positions to give rewards based on looks. You can see that in the legal system where a woman is way less likely to be convicted or do any time for the same crime a man will be convicted of and do hard time. Simply because she has boobs and a nice smile. It's cultural too tho & varies from country to country. Good luck getting an acting job just because you look good in the UK. It's commonplace in the U. S.
Yes, obviously. I also think there's kind of a positive feedback loop to it as well: People are more friendly to attractive people, which leads to attractive people being generally more confident and outgoing, and people are more friendly to confident and outgoing people.
I think it's time to bury the privilege card, we are not born equals and everything we do improve or decrease or odds in different things so life will never ever be fair. I think viewing thing as a privilege is a negative view. It's like it's a bad thing to be beautiful. It should not be. Not handling the perks of being beautiful in a good way is the only negative about it.
It seems to me that everyone is privileged in some way or another. I could say I'm privileged because I'm smart. I get good grades and I don't have to work that hard at it. Teachers know I'm smart and may give me the upper hand when grading.
I have a friend who works construction and he works hard. After a while work becomes easy. He got promoted before all others. His boss plays favorites with him.
I don’t think it’s fair to blame attractive woman because after a certain age, an attractive body is maintained with work and self control and isn’t a biological accident. My uncle has an extremely slow metabolism and he is super fit cause he works hard to keep his weight down.
Absolutely! My d has a mind of it's own and ALWAYS when it's not the appropriate or convenient times likes to ummmm "stand at attention"! I've NEVER been able to show side boob or full nip to get out of a speeding ticket and that's not for lack of trying! Plastic surgeons making more then pediatric doctors wouldn't be a reality and or there wouldn't even be plastic surgery at all!
Amazingly beautiful people of both genders are very often extremely sexualized by the rest, and it's fairly easy to be assumed that they are promiscuous or easy or stupid or anything else you can imagine. It might seem a paradox, but some of the most stunningly beautiful women and men I know, are at the same time the most lonely and introverted people I'm aware of and many of them don't even have an active sexual life, compared to average looking guys and girls.
Yes it does I get treated so much better and people are way more polite when I am dressing nice, have makeup and wake up early. When i'm dressed or look ugly, people are so dam rude. And also people try to kiss up to pretty people, even my professor. It's really sadd but we're animals after all.
Yes, of course. Just don't assume that YOU do. Never underestimate the value of always looking your best. Get some help if you need it. And social skills are learned, so brush up on those as well. You're a little young for this forum - maturity is a requisite.
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I can see what the privileges are, but like all things, there's probably some sh*t pretty people have to deal with that most of us would rather not. There's always a downside to everything...
I don't like how the word "privilege" is being thrown around these days.
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OF COURSE. It started all the way in elementary school. The teacher favors the pretty girl! In college, guys flood to impress the pretty girl! At the work place, male bosses and male colleagues fighting to help the pretty girl in every way they can.
But of course pretty girls are disliked by average girls but it doesn’t really matter to them because they already get what they want most of the time.
Yes, it exists even for boys and you can't change that because it's a part of human nature. Having a good looking friend, employee or even following someone handsome/pretty in social media, gives people the feeling of gaining prestige. Getting fat means you lose this assets and privileges which come with it. No one will feel any sympathy for you just because you were pretty/handsome few years back. Even people who admired you for your appearance feel confused why they did that beforehand.
All privileges exist that's a known fact. Not something to really just think it exists or don't when it in fact does. Whether it's get privileges from people due to there sympathy to you as a person who just got injured, or a woman who is hot.
Oh god yes. Good looking people have their own struggles for sure but just like as a rich person you don’t know if people like you for you and not your money being rich is arguably preferred over not and comes with privileges.
All forms of privilege exist in this artificial circus of a world created for us; Except that of which is most commonly vomited across the airwaves and information highway, "White Privilege."
We are the new 'barbarians' forged in iron hardness of their hate and persecution. All over the world we wait to pounce.
Pretty privilege exists and it even influences the results in the Courtroom where unattractive criminals received 3× the punishment severity of attractive criminal (https://www. thelawproject. com. au/insights/attractiveness-bias-in-the-legal-system)
Pretty privlege and woman privlege is being picked out of a crowd to be let into a busy club, but the only reason they picked you is because guys will follow you in and buy you drinks thus benefitting the business.
If that was the case no matter how prity she is there will be certain guys who would wanna buy her drinks tbh you just had to be a women mostly and thats it there will be guys who wanna buy a women drink.
They just need to give stag enteries and there buisness will run anyways
Yes, absolutely. Who do you think is going to get hired as a mechanic? The smooth jock who has a basic idea of how a car works? Or the dumpy nerd that actually knows what he's doing? I think we both know the answer.
Seems fairly obvious to me. The only people who don't seem to grasp the concept are the ones who are pretty and getting all the benefits. To them, that's just the life bubble they live in. The rest of us all see it.
Unfortunately yes, there's even a noted benefit to hiring just if you're taller actually.
A lot female "pretty privilege" comes from Men acting like simps with literally no dignity, it's actually extremely disappointing to watch. Sad suckers.
You obviously get some advantage for pressenting yourself better because presentation matters. Beauty is subjective but that doesn't mean we don't have societal standards.
Its not a privilege. Its something you achieved. People just have different tastes in features. What matters is if you're just healthy and fit then youd be "pretty" by society's standards
It's pretty well documented that people tend to associate good traits with attractive people. So if you see someone who is attractive, you are more likely to assume that they are, for example, a good person. If you are attractive, enjoy it, and if you are not, accept it. It's all a first impression anyway.
Honestly, yes. For instance : If there was an "unattractive" person versus an "attractive, one, people are more likely to do stuff for them than the other. It's truly sad.
When I was in college I was friends with an attractive and young woman. She had a lot of older men do a lot of things for her. I asked her why do you think these men do things for her? She said it's because they are nice people. I asked her if they are doing things because they are nice, why aren't they doing things for those other women who aren't as attractive or overweight? She said she is young and still learning about life.
Just look at Gabby Petito. Hundreds of people go missing all the time but she gets national attention. Why? It’s because 1) she’s woman 2) she’s young 3) she was attractive and last but not least she’s white.
Her parents pushed and pushed the media, whipped them into a frenzy until law enforcement HAD to do something. I would say it’s more, other parents not giving a fuck about their kids.
@rcljr good point. But still here pretty face definitely helped.
If I went on a road trip with my girlfriend and she came back alone (after putting a bullet in my head in a public park) i got a feeling it wouldn’t be a national news story no matter how much my family pushed.
I also read that one of the reasons is why disappeared minority women don’t get coverage is this unfortunately much more common in those communities (along with minority male suspects)
Hell yeah brother. People treat you like a celebrity when you’re pretty. You don’t exist when you’re ugly. I would know, I’ve been on both sides of the straw
Also being fat certainly effects whether people think you’re attractive or not. But that’s mainly too fat. If your chunky you can still have pretty privilege. If you’re grossly fat, then nah
I find this to be true also. I have a female friend who said when she was overweight no guy noticed her. But once she lost the weight a lot of men asked her out.
It most definitely does. I’ve seen it firsthand from being good looking to being fat when I had surgery for a year to being back to in shape. The world is a shallow place.
It sure does, you remember the judge that went way lenient on that drop dead gorgeous sexy blonde teacher that was letting all the school boys bang her? He said “ she’s too pretty for prison”
I think there’s some truth to that, now I also think that women set beauty standards guys are just happy to get the pussy there would be no make up for example if there was no competition.
I mean, yeah. But some people have intelligence privilege, and they're just born with it. Some people are born with an attractive advantage. Some people are born with an advantage in Social Skills, Leadership, this, and that.
Who cares? Life isn't fair and is sad, depressing, and is a shit hole. Like we all didn't know that already. It's why some people would rather end it then continue living in it.
the entire concept of privilege is evil. it gives you an excuse to decide if others deserve your consideration or not. not treating them as individuals.
if you believe privilege its time to get off social media
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Yeah
That’s why people starve, bleach their skin and get plastic surgery to achieve it
I agree with what your saying but… I think we should promote looking better and shame not taking care of yourself… yes body shaming SHOULD be a thing.
Sad truth is people respond to negativity far more often the positivity. At the same time negativity with a complete lack of positivity creates a terrible situation for people.
For instance growing up u was that stupid goofy looking kid lacking any features of anything good looking. I was treated badly for it so I worked to improve. Luckily I’ll kill you before Ide Kill myself because of you. I don’t detriment myself for others and will even to extremes defend my existence. However what about this with a weak will? Or mental disorders? Nothing but negativity leads to anorexia for example. They need the positive reinforcement to know their making progress. Otherwise they feel like their just not moving
Also yes. That’s why anorexics starve themselves- because it works.
The sad truth that people don’t want to admit is that people are shallow, they will never accept you for all that you are, but will accept you for all that you seem to be.
It’s why we should promote this stuff - skin bleaching, plastic surgery, anorexia because no ones cares if you actually a good person - people are dumb enough that if you look good they’ll assume the same
No. I do not promote anorexia because it’s unhealthy the same as I body shame because it’s unhealthy and unattractive. Steal attraction isn’t about looks it’s about how healthy a partner acts and looks. The woman with a big ass isn’t attractive because men like big assess she’s attractive because wide hips show she’s got a better chance of safe healthy child birth. Starving women aren’t attractive by any means.
no... its cancelled out by their insecurites around whether or not their personality is respected
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Yeah but to what level and when. But I'd submit that it probably works against an attractive person as equally. I mean for every free drink from a handsome guy your probably getting 3 hammered toothless lovers hitting on you. Lol
Wait, WHAAAATTTT? Being pretty is better than being less pretty? HOLY CRAP! Someone get that person a Nobel Prize!
I'm sure the paper is forthcoming in the next edition of the Journal of the Blindingly Obvious.
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What difference does it make if you have pretty privilege? You say you don't know. What if you found out you do. What does that change? What if you found out you don't? What do you do differently?
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