Americans do you agree that you don’t need a gun because that’s what the police or private security firms are for?

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lovedejj_xo · Accepted Answer

Since being sexually assaulted by some random then having a protection order expire and the same person attempt to break into my car 3 years later and it just so happened that the paper expired and he couldn’t be arrested I carry. I made sure to let the officer on duty know the next time he gets shot.

JennBITx · Accepted Answer

I have been raised around guns and live a lone. The police cannot always get here in time and I do not have the money for private security. I have taken safety courses and have my concealed carry. I will protect myself if needed. My father and mother also raised me this way.

Lliam · Answer

It's dumber than dumb to place blind trust in government and its employees.
Governments can turn on the citizenry. And government employees - police, security forces and military - will do whatever they are ordered to do, even if it's immoral. We see it every day. Look how places like Australia are treating those who are protesting against lockdowns and vax passports. That's benevolence for you.

Police in totalitarian regimes follow the law. And totalitarian regimes have generally low crime rates. But what people in those countries fear are police and security forces. So yeah, trust government. It would never lie to you. All it wants is for you to be safe, happy and prosperous. LOL

Only slaves lack the ability to defend themselves. They are loyal subjects as opposed to free citizens.

Notice that the more fucked up life gets for people, the more crime increases. And who is responsible for things being fucked up? Clue: government. So government fucks things up and then proposes a solution: more authoritarianism.

Even the idea that America is awash in gun violence is a joke.
There were 39,707 deaths from firearms in the U. S. in 2019. Sixty percent of deaths from firearms in the U. S. are suicides. That means that fewer than 16,000 were not self inflicted.
So compare 16,000 to other causes of death. Over 250,000 accidental hospital deaths.
40,000 deaths from accidental freaking falls. Are you terrified of that? 40,000 from accidental poisoning. Yes, commonly available substances. Over 38,000 highway fatalities. Are you afraid to get in a car?
It helps to keep numbers in perspective when we are talking about a population of 330 million citizens and, actually, more like 450 million people in the country at any one time.

The FBI estimates that 80% of firearm related homicides are gang related. That means that 20% of 16,000, or 3,200 firearm related homicides, are not gang related. OMG, the humanity!!! I'm terrified to leave my home!

If gun possession is outlawed, will that prevent gangs and criminals from obtaining them? And if not, won't that make honest citizens sitting ducks?

Now lets look at instances of defensive gun use (DGU). The most conservative credible estimates are around 150,000. The DOJ estimated it at closer to 1.5 million. And some estimates are as high as 3.5 million.
DGU doesn't even mean that a gun was fired. When a gun IS fired in self defense, a criminal is seldomly ever injured, let alone killed. And there are almost no instances of "collateral damage" by citizens. By police, yes. By citizens, no.

When looking at the DGU instances, how many of those prevented rape, brutality, injury, disfigurement, trauma, theft of valuable or irreplaceable possessions?

So guns are very useful defensive tools. Criminals are less afraid of police than the possibility that a citizen might be armed. An armed citizenry actually deters crime.
The fact of armed citizens also serves to keep the government in check. That was the intent of the second amendment in the first place. Then there is the ability to hunt for food. Lastly, target shooting is a valid sport/recreation. It's fun, teaches discipline, safety and hand-eye coordination.

People who support the "gun control" agenda haven't thought things through. They have no clue about the real reason why globalist elites are so bent on disarming the public. It's not for our safety, that's for sure. Morons consume mainstream media and believe whatever they are told.

TwinTonyz · Answer

A few years ago we had received a call that the alarm tripped at my aunts house. They winter in the South every year and were not around to react or even find out what was going on. It was maybe midnight, their house is remote, so it's not unlikely that somebody would have known they were gone and decided it's an easy take to rob the place. I'd been dressed, armed, and drove 8 miles from where I live to their house. I swept the house with a neighbor who my aunt also called. Once we found there was nobody there we went back out to our cars. The police rolled in about 5 minutes after we already finished clearing the house.

The point is that the police don't know what's going on. They got an alert that a robbery was in progress, and it still took them 20 minutes to show up. The police are unable to serve every possible situation. They can't defend us when somebody is trying to harm us. If I can be as ill-prepared as somebody asleep could be and then do the policeman's job faster than they can, that's evidence that I am my own protection, not them.

Also private security isn't cheap but they are typically much more effective.

Shortman70 · Answer

Firstly, it's guaranteed in our constitution. Read it, then compare it to what's goin on in the USA right now. I'm afraid that another revolutionary war is coming. And if you think that things would be better without firearms, you need to study some countries that have banned them. Really study them, crimes, up or down, violence, not just gun crimes.

Some things to think about:
How long could you hold off an intruder in your home? He will have a gun, he's a criminal, laws don't affect them
Your wife, daughter, girlfriend, sister, mom, grandma is getting raped with a knife or gun to their head. Do you just ask politely for them to stop?
You come home and burglaries in progress, do you say please bring my stuff back.
The economy collapses, everything shuts down, looting is rampant, you have food enough food for your family for a year. Everybody else has run out, how you gonna stop them from taking yours? Call the cops, they'll have guns to come a take it.
With a gun you can hunt your food.
We need to be more self reliant and less dependant on the govt.
I will peacefully give up my gun when I run out of ammunition, if there's anyone still alive that wants them or they pry my cold dead fingers off of it.

TangBang69 · Answer

Well if nobody had a gun, then what need would the police or private sector have for them? Ask this question again after $20+Trillion of debt defaults to fall back on you, me, us. I'd smile too borrowing a few Trillion with the shrug of a shoulder , they'll pay it back.
To say it was Islam, isis or any other rogue assembly that took a 95% eradication of poppy fields to a post-US invasion skyrocket to record high productivity level of opiate/heroin from re-spawned poppy fields to then touch every town in America with a substance to begin an opioid/heroin crisis in America that still maintains that supply flow to this day 19 years into a war on terror with considerably swelled security protocols, is to say that we have 0 national security and that the wars on terror as well as on drugs, are a gross display of incompetence in being catastrophic level failure of fools or it says they are both what the war on drugs was made to be 50+ years ago to show 0% of progress today in being perpetual scams to say the conspiracy theorist to be the more logical thinker. Also backing that note is a Lithium harvest projected into the trillions fueling the upsurge of Lithium powered products.

It also says the "unit" as well as every individual law enforcing officer, especially narcotics officers to be one of only two possible things, incompetent or accomplice as bottom feeders of a perpetual scam of trickle down economics feeding wealth and power to them. Friendly neighborhood police officers are now combat geared squads of tactical response with spy tech, drones , dogs... that is the progress of the war on drugs and guess what? Next they'll need armored vehicles and tanks to get nowhere in. When it's too late you'll be throwing rocks as the realization of the 2nd amendment's meaning sets in. Not to mention the armed population is the bigger standing army and why foreign enemies do not try to invade us.

TheorionMage · Answer

I have BEEN a soldier, police patrolman, armed security officer, a bodyguard, and a licensed federal firearms dealer including Class III NFA (automatic weapons, etc.)

PROVIDING you have been properly trained (BIG qualifier) the cliché' "Better to HAVE a gun and not need it, than to NEED a gun and not have it" has never been MORE 'true'.

In ANY potentially violent interaction... the FIRST TEN MINUTES defines the ferocity and severity of the outcome. Few societal safeguards fiscally-factor this into account AND predatory Malcreants are INTIMATELY aware of this. HOW FAR and MUCH will a fire burn BEFORE the fire engines arrive?

"HOW MUCH fear & carnage can I inflict upon unarmed innocents BEFORE I encounter 'risk' EQUAL or GREATER than what I CAN inflict?"

Near-immediate potentially-lethal COUNTERING-resistance is required to interrupt... or END such rampages. Generate fear=compliance! And, WHAT frightens MOST (not all) violent Assailants? THEIR plans DO NOT factor THEIR OWN serious injury, limiting THEIR 'dominance'. Hard to maintain 'scary' when you're focused on YOUR OWN 'sucking chest wound's and bleeding out.

Only YOUR timely 'Good Samaritan / Vigilante' response can alter THAT paradigm in the time allotted. But THAT requires a 'Condition Orange' mentality and unaccustomed skills.

Your Attacker didn't come there against you empty-handed; ... TWO words: 'Improvised weapons', ... ALWAYS 'trade up', function-check and TAKE THE FUGGIN ammo! ~

The single LOUDEST & LAST sound you will EVER hear, is the sound of the firing pin of the weapon YOU are using, falling upon an EMPTY chamber... <> "OH SHIT!!!"

DexWest · Answer

If history has proven anything, it’s that guns are needed. Remember that the gestapo was germanys police force. The second amendment is not for hunting. It so that we the people can protect our families and keep the federal government in check.

“A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

The emphasis is on “security of a free state.”

Let’s also look at the Declaration of Independence. Read the section after the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness section.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.——That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, “indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

That’s why we have guns.

Anonymous · Answer

no, that argument is wrong for the simple reason that, the ability for me to have a safe life, should NEVER be based on whether or not other people ( police/security) are around to "protect" me or not. I shouldn't be vulnerable to attack because the game's on and the security guard is busy watching it instead of his security feed. People have a right to ensure their own survival and well-being, and a gun is a major step in protecting those things.

Anti-gun losers lost their bullshit argument ever since Biden took office. It's over. The reasons we need a gun are no longer up for debate. He literally gave thousands of guns to people who wish to do us harm, his administration literally funds a bail program that routinely pays bail for violent BLM/Antifa criminals, and some of them have already been arrested AGAIN, after being released and have even committed murder.

There's a big push from Biden supporters to "defund the police", so who gonna "protect us" then? Answer: we the people. Some crazy vaccine nazi bitch literally just thought it was okay to get in her car and run over a bunch of people opposing the vaccine. When Trump was in office, this was called domestic terrorism. Now that Biden's in office, the other vaccine nazis on the street actually support this violent behavior.

Hearing people wish and threaten me with death or violence, simply because I choose not to take a vaccine they're trying to force me to take, is the only argument I need to justify my choice to carry a gun. The "debate" is over. The reason guns are needed has been shown.

dustybiker · Answer

In my personal experience. A surveillance security system is only good for defending your death in court. An alarm gives you time to protect yourself, but crazies don’t care about alarms either. I’ve had some insane neighbors who terrified the neighborhood. Everyone had put up cameras. You are on your own in some situations. Police, city, etc. all fear crazy people. They delay or don’t show up, on purpose.
And these were people armed with twelve guns themselves.
If on your own do you even the odds? Or sit and wait for law who may or may not come? And if they do show up won’t watch security footage of actual crime, “It’s a civil matter.”
That is a personal decision.

hahahmm · Answer

That's not what police/security is for. The Supreme Court ruled long ago that the police are not obligated to protect you or legally responsible for your safety. And even if they were there's limited numbers of cops. Some large cities only have a tiny number of officers on duty at night. If you just happened to need help when the police are busy... take a number, right? Maybe if they show up an hour after you called you'll still be unharmed. Having a firearm (and knowing how to use it safely) is worth 30k cops to me.

Floppy2112 · Answer

I know one thing, I saw cities get burned to the ground last summer. I saw people get hurt, bashed in the head with rocks, shot at, beaten in mobs and there wasn't a policeman in sight. The media seldom brings it up, but more than 25 people were killed in those riots. And people did call the police only to have the dispatcher say, "What would you have us do, ma'am? The city is under attack, there is no one to come.'
If you did not learn anything else from those riots, you should have learned, the police cannot always make it. But if your too dumb to learn that lesson, then maybe you deserve the 'Darwin Award' you are certain to win sooner or later.

Juan_Curious · Answer

The real purpose the 2nd Amendment was to protect society from a possible coup d'etat (like the one Trump attempted), not to give guns to psychos. Off course, the brilliant minds who redacted the American Constitution would never imagine that there would be a society where people would give their permission to the State to spy on them 24/7. They were brave people making the law according to their bravery. The 2nd Amendment was made for them, not for the coward and apolitical society we live in nowadays.

BrosephBrostar · Answer

Nope. As trite as the "When seconds count..." propaganda is, every word of it is true.

With that being said, which side is the one that's interested in getting rid of-I'm sorry, I mean defunding the police, because they don't like the idea of the state exercising force except on the people THEY deem fit? Which, on that note, I'm not trusting the state with my protection on the first place, especially if they're the ones threatening me in the first place.

So no, take your responsibility for your safety in your own hands.

PinkMichae · Answer

No. It takes police too long to respond in rural areas like where I live and not all of us can afford private security. So I make sure I'm able to protect myself.

Subarugirl · Answer

The police are under no obligation to protect you... they can just not show up if the decided to. In my opinion everyone should learn how to protect themselves firs and foremost.

Daniela1982 · Answer

There was a ruling that the police don't have to protect you. You see that all the time in riots. They don't do shit to protect you or your property

DarkCarousel · Answer

No. I prefer to have a gun because I will protect my home and my family til the end of me.

BeenThereLovedIt · Answer

hmmm.. a future of peace and tranquility vs. paranoia and violence...

I'm not blind to the fact that violence is rampant in the world we live in, but at what point do we actually decide to do something about it? Bragging about your personal firepower isn't exactly a step in the right direction.

Anpu23 · Answer

I have been through an actual home invasion. Knock on the door "someones hurt can we use your phone?" (Before the days of cellphones)

When my buddy opened the door the guy kicked it in. My friend came back up with a shotgun and literally shoved it into the first guys mouth.

He had a pistol in his hand and there were two of them. They decided they made a bad decision and left.

SaoirseS · Answer

No I don’t agree with that at all. I take responsibility for my own security and safety.

LikeALog · Answer

Three times I had LEO's as neighbors. They all said very seldom did they arrive while the crime was in progress. (That doesn't include traffic violations.) The courts have said LE does not have responsibly for your protection. Maybe, if you live in a nice subdivision you don't need a firearm. Those of us living in other areas generally have higher crime rates and a firearm may be a viable self protection option.

Oigit · Answer

We can have all off the legislation and control some people want, it won't change much if anything. The issue is very much like the drug trade. It's an issue we are pretty much stuck with. If I wanted to get high right now on you bet there is a way to get my hands on what I want. Even if it means going to another country to do so. Guns are very much the same.

EternallyCorrect · Answer

Ok, so you’re at home and a man breaks into your house with a gun. You gonna ring the police and make noise exposing your location in the house and then wait 10 minutes for them to arrive? The police don’t arrive at the scene instantly, 10 minutes is plenty of time for you to get shot.

Prettygurl12 · Answer

Average police response is 7 minutes. With a gun, your response time is a fraction of a second. if the situation warrants a gun, I sure as hell don't want to wait for one to show up.

KrisPW · Answer

I don't agree. I'm not rich enough to hire private security and I'm not big enough to carry an officer around. If I need either, then it's already too late and something has or is already happening.

Andres77 · Answer

what happens when the police become the enemy, breaking in and capturing those who disagree with the establishment?
i'm very pro-law enforcement... until law enforcement starts breaking the law.
lots of cops won't enforce illegal mandates but some will.
the government has NO AUITHORITY to tell me i can't defend my family.

Rangers · Answer

No, that's ridiculous, I'm studying to be an officer and our role is to deter crime through presence and punishment for committing crime, however some people will do it anyways and there's a strong chance we won't get there quick enough to stop them since they seldom commit such acts around us because they know what's going to happen if they do.

Iknowbestgirls · Answer

I'm not going to rely on someone else to take care of my life in a deadly situation. I'd be much happier knowing how to properly use and carry a fire arm. The only one you can count on to actually take care of you is yourself.

Don't be a victim! It's time to fight back!

YoMan1 · Answer

I'm not American, but it's just crazy to me how many people do not feel safe in their homes - gun or no gun - in a first world country. I'm against firearms in general because their primary purpose is to kill. (You can challenge me on that if you want)

Physics-Man · Answer

If we don't need guns because we have Police Officers, then we don't need fire extinguishers because we have Firefighters. But we never see stupid leftist filth ever bring that point up, don't we?

This question, paraphrased as a statement by liberal scum, is nothing short of a failure of logic and common sense, or plain out disingenuous, dishonest rhetoric.

Haylynn10 · Answer

Because i live out in the middle of no where it could take the cops a while to get here, but that answer could go for anywhere you live people have been killed in their own house before police have shown up and the person who did it hot away.

xwmiku · Answer

That's a ridiculous question. If you need a gun, you need it immediately. By the time the police and security has arrived, you probably don't need the gun anymore.

Jayplays900 · Answer

I believe that the act of gun laws is a symbol to our leaders.

If you were to break our rights, then we have a way to fight back. So don't overstep the line.

I get gun regulation, especially in a violent time, but not complete gun banning.

DCooper · Answer

Come and live in Detroit for a couple years, then feel free to pontificate about how a layered home defense including a firearm is unnecessary, and you can do away with all the layers except your phone to call the police... ROFL

jj-bnobb · Answer

I think there are to many restrictions on firearms now. That's just the opinion of a former military police officer.

SitBackRelax · Answer

Need is not what our system of government is based upon. We have a right to guns and all other arms no matter what our government thinks or how the Karen’s want to vote!

Iron_Man · Answer

You need protection from home invasions in the middle of the night, The cops are not there to help you. The fort must be defended

spartan55 · Answer

No, not at all. Average 911 response time is something like 5 minutes nationwide... so the police will unlikely be able to protect you. EVERY adult is responsible for their own security and safety.

genericname85 · Answer

americans desparately need their guns to shoot at trash in their trailerpark backyard... of course they're too much of a bitch to actually use those weapons for what their beloved second ammendment was intended for xD

Anonymous · Answer

I am pro gun but i dont think it should be sold like a candy from Supermarkt. I prefere the gun laws from czech republic, switzerland and maybe from austria..
I think that every woman should carry a gun. It would be useful when a degenerated cat caller annoys you.

SpiderManFan2002 · Answer

Lol I’m not American so I’m just gonna grab the popcorn because this ones gonna be funny😂😂😂

Shamiah02 · Answer

Naw, i think it's weird when people think they need an arsenal to protect themselves. Like bruh who you got comin for ya😂

BobbyC65 · Answer

I'm not giving up my 38 revolver.

Jonny59 · Answer

I'm from Europe and honestly you don't need a gun there its illegal and unnecessary because its pretty hard to get one
anyway
why every American is getting a weapon like why are you scared that someone will break in and rob you? or?

Anonymous · Answer

There are two meat heads in Brunswick, GA awaiting trial for murder with no bond, that probably wish they did not have a gun that day in 2020. Citizens arrest and probably wish they would have let the cops handle the black guy instead. Most Americans are like little kids wanting to be gun slinger heroes like John Wayne. That God damn gun don;t make you bullet proof or prison proof. If they want to play gun slinger join the Army or Marines. They need gunslingers in Syria and Iraq. This 2nd Amendment bullshit and NRA shit is going to keep going till they run out school kids. There is no reason an average citizen needs an automatic assault rifle with a 15-30 round clip. I hope the Justice Dept. starts suing the arms/ammo makers and the NRA just like they did with the cigerette makers.

NightOwl8801 · Answer

Hahaha... no , I'm pro 2nd amendment.
I am former military police and local sheriff deputy. I carry on my current job working with local government and I carry off duty , am I paranoid No , I am prepared for anything that may come my way

noohair · Answer

I have had to work in dangerous areas because the rents are affordable. If I had be unarmed, I would not be sitting here. responding to this foolish statement.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Staximus · Answer

So if someone is shooting you or stabbing you, are you going to just tell them "hold on, I'm calling the police" and just keep getting shot and stabbed until the police get there? You'll be dead, stupid.

exitseven · Answer

I am planning on getting firearms because the fabric of our society is unravelling. I do not think the police can protect me and my family.

TwistedSukuna · Answer

Police aren't gonna be there when the crackhead living under the bridge down the street wakes up and chooses violence, therefore I carry a knife since I don't own a gun

BCA6010 · Answer

Relying entirely on others, whether it's private or government-funded security is insane.

Recurrence · Answer

I don’t need a gun, I’ll agree with that part.
I disagree that that’s what Police and Private Security are for. They are fingers of the government here to slap around poor people and keep people scared.

sarahlumpkin · Answer

I am against assault rifles. However, if people are allowed to have guns that are not designed to mow down a playground then they should.

humpbackjack · Answer

We have the right to bare arms to protect us from our government as much if not more than from other citizens. It was written to give the people a means to protect themselves from tyranny

collie22 · Answer

if you can handle a gun its good to have one in your house to protect your family and we don't need a gun up on the roof of a tall building

Baredog69 · Answer

We have guns to protect us from the very police and government that you speak about. The government gets out of line form militia and straighten it out.

Agape93 · Answer

Lmfao xD 😆😆 they've never helped me, only helped with the aftermath

Anonymous · Answer

in my opinion, a good security system, with an alarm and a surveillance camera can protect you from home invasions

bean2k21 · Answer

I don't need a gun i will smack you in your damn face.

DonRollins · Answer

NO FUCKING WAY. I live in East Europe and believe it or not many of us still have guns. Not automatic guns but guns none the less.

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