Americans do you agree that you don’t need a gun because that’s what the police or private security firms are for? (Page 2)
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We can have all off the legislation and control some people want, it won't change much if anything. The issue is very much like the drug trade. It's an issue we are pretty much stuck with. If I wanted to get high right now on you bet there is a way to get my hands on what I want. Even if it means going to another country to do so. Guns are very much the same.
Ok, so you’re at home and a man breaks into your house with a gun. You gonna ring the police and make noise exposing your location in the house and then wait 10 minutes for them to arrive? The police don’t arrive at the scene instantly, 10 minutes is plenty of time for you to get shot.
My house was broken into took them seconds to breech the locked front door
@CreamySeed
Who? The cops?
Nope by a couple of KneeGrow teens
@CreamySeed
Yeah. Fuck not having any kind of weapon in that situation.
They ran off when my motion detector porch light kicked on, but the door was wide open when I went to the living room to see what happened, I know their appearance because I have a security camera on my porch. Had the cops do a report but never heard back. Door was dead bolted they just hit it at the same time sounded like a car smashed into my living room.
They probably just wanted some bread to feed their families 😉
Average police response is 7 minutes. With a gun, your response time is a fraction of a second. if the situation warrants a gun, I sure as hell don't want to wait for one to show up.
I don't agree. I'm not rich enough to hire private security and I'm not big enough to carry an officer around. If I need either, then it's already too late and something has or is already happening.
what happens when the police become the enemy, breaking in and capturing those who disagree with the establishment?
i'm very pro-law enforcement... until law enforcement starts breaking the law.
lots of cops won't enforce illegal mandates but some will.
the government has NO AUITHORITY to tell me i can't defend my family.
I'm not going to rely on someone else to take care of my life in a deadly situation. I'd be much happier knowing how to properly use and carry a fire arm. The only one you can count on to actually take care of you is yourself.
Don't be a victim! It's time to fight back!
I'm not American, but it's just crazy to me how many people do not feel safe in their homes - gun or no gun - in a first world country. I'm against firearms in general because their primary purpose is to kill. (You can challenge me on that if you want)
sometimes its kill or be killed in this world
Our government is taking our police away and our society degrading at a faster rate than anywhere else.
Could guns be an explanation for this degrading society? I know societies that do not have guns as a right and do much better from a social point of view.
Guns don’t explain why people don’t care about each other.
No, that's ridiculous, I'm studying to be an officer and our role is to deter crime through presence and punishment for committing crime, however some people will do it anyways and there's a strong chance we won't get there quick enough to stop them since they seldom commit such acts around us because they know what's going to happen if they do.
Because i live out in the middle of no where it could take the cops a while to get here, but that answer could go for anywhere you live people have been killed in their own house before police have shown up and the person who did it hot away.
If we don't need guns because we have Police Officers, then we don't need fire extinguishers because we have Firefighters. But we never see stupid leftist filth ever bring that point up, don't we?
This question, paraphrased as a statement by liberal scum, is nothing short of a failure of logic and common sense, or plain out disingenuous, dishonest rhetoric.
That's a ridiculous question. If you need a gun, you need it immediately. By the time the police and security has arrived, you probably don't need the gun anymore.
I believe that the act of gun laws is a symbol to our leaders.
If you were to break our rights, then we have a way to fight back. So don't overstep the line.
I get gun regulation, especially in a violent time, but not complete gun banning.
Come and live in Detroit for a couple years, then feel free to pontificate about how a layered home defense including a firearm is unnecessary, and you can do away with all the layers except your phone to call the police... ROFL
I think there are to many restrictions on firearms now. That's just the opinion of a former military police officer.
Need is not what our system of government is based upon. We have a right to guns and all other arms no matter what our government thinks or how the Karen’s want to vote!
You need protection from home invasions in the middle of the night, The cops are not there to help you. The fort must be defended
Would you ever catch someone and torture them a while first?
@Manchild2018 no I don’t do that why?
I don't know. it just seems like fun lol.
@Manchild2018 I'm a certified waterboarding instructor.
@f_ckjoebiden I'm cool with that.
No, not at all. Average 911 response time is something like 5 minutes nationwide... so the police will unlikely be able to protect you. EVERY adult is responsible for their own security and safety.
americans desparately need their guns to shoot at trash in their trailerpark backyard... of course they're too much of a bitch to actually use those weapons for what their beloved second ammendment was intended for xD
Wanna bet? There’s been several killed by armed civilians in my city
can you explain to me how that is the conscious execution of the second ammendment right and not just a random act of cowardly terrorism of mentally deranged individuals?
It’s called self defense. Plus a militia is armed civilians coming together to assist a military. You can’t have a militia unless civilians are armed. “To bear” means to own and carry. Everything about civilians owning and carrying firearms is 100% constitutional so suck it
"self defense" has nothing to do with the second ammendment. a few armed civilians don't make a "militia". it makes "militant civilians".
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
in what sense is the "militia" you are refering to "well regulated and necessary to the security of a free state"?
"Everything about civilians owning and carrying firearms is 100% constitutional so suck it" why do you say stupid shit like that? as if you had some sort of "gotcha" there. the second amendment grants everyone the right to bear weapons. i never contested that idea. though the second amendment doesn't say that you can do what the shit you want with your weapons.
and if you're acting in "self defense", where in the second ammendment does it mention self defense?
It doesn’t have to. Self defense is a right that’s backed up by countless court cases plus the SCOTUS ruled that guns can be used for self defense. If you don’t like it then don’t buy one but you don’t have the right to ban them for everyone because of your beliefs. Again suck it
Well you could just admit that it has nothing to do with your beloved second amendment instead of trying to fight arguments i never made xD
It does because if it weren’t for the 2nd amendment I wouldn’t have a gun to shoot in self defense would I. So again suck it
I am pro gun but i dont think it should be sold like a candy from Supermarkt. I prefere the gun laws from czech republic, switzerland and maybe from austria..
I think that every woman should carry a gun. It would be useful when a degenerated cat caller annoys you.
This is the exact reason why women should carry a gun. Majority of rapists are men. Men even rape men
We should forbid freaks like you to carry a gun.. ok stop trolling and i will be nice to you. I really dont have patience for you. I know you are joking.. stop it. It is not funny. Nobody think like that
You are first level and have pathetic random profil name. So you are probably having multiple accounts to troll people
That’s why I don’t approach or hit on women. You all victimise yourselves. I don’t own a gun or ever will. Never fired one either. How can people be pro gun? No one deserves to have my life in their finger tips for no reason. Any idiot can get a gun.
Pepper spray and stun gun/taser are seen also as gun
You need a fucking ridiculous license for getting a pepper spray/stun gun in germany. Pro gun does not mean you should be allowed to own any gun
Ok shit. F off. I just think people should have a right to protect themself and any person who want to kill someone dont give a f about laws. So they will get their guns illegal. Then in germany 15 Millionen guns are own illegal while 1 million (?) Guns are owned legal so far i know.
I am also done with you. Stop replying. You just want to provoke me. So please f off and let agree to disagree
Yep you’re the last person I’d give a gun.
Also those illegal guns are probably owned by people in gangs and sold to other countries.
Let me tell you something. A lot of weapons are used against the owner. I’m talking about the weapon you’re trying to protect yourself with. You really think it’s necessary to carry a gun. You’re mad. Buy a pepper spray.
What gun? Just stfu. I have the right to protect myself from degenerated incels like you. Dont worry taser/stun guns/ pepper spray won't kill you. I really dont understand why you are so against
Idiot, Pepper spray is gun. Again i am not saying i support owning every kind of gun.
And no. Illegal guns are easy to get. A german reporter get a illegal gun in few hours.
Wait i look up my sources
You’re insulting me because I don’t share the same view as you? What next you’re going to pull a gun on me? Listen to your choice of words ‘kill you.’ I’m just a dentist why you talking about killing me? Also I would want an attacker to be in jail not shot dead!
But seriously why are you insulting me? It’s crazy to feel the need to carry a gun.
Because you were disrespectful to me
I am not insulting you just because we have different views. The whole time yoz trashtalk my gender, and was disrespectful to meand i had enough. Can we just agree to disagree. You dont get me. I am not saying it should be easy to get firearms. I respect you antigun views and i understand it. I dont support the American gun laws
I dont want to kill you wtf. I would not carry any firearm but i want to carry taser
You are an dentist?
Lol I’m not American so I’m just gonna grab the popcorn because this ones gonna be funny😂😂😂