We've evolved to be providers. Many of us find enjoyment and meaning in providing. And while there are some who may be intimidated, intimidated often isn't the right word. With all due respect, that's a word people use because they feel insecure that many members of a certain group aren't fond if a quality they harbor. It's a defense mechanism. Just like how homophobe came about. A phobia of homosexuality is very rare (cases in jail might be an exception). What they meant to say is anti-homosexual. But implying they have a phobia of homosexuals is demeaning and makes them feel better about doing so. It would be more accurate to say that many men are turned off by independent women.
Most men that feel a threat in my view are beta males. In people under 30 generally, most women tend to bully them. This starts to change when people get into their late 30s! I see a lady some! She works at one of the local TV stations near my home. Makes decent money and has two daughters 17 and 14. She and I both have made it clear we will never marry and just like being around each other AND her daughters are also great gals. I'm an Alpha male! I don't see men or women as a threat. Honestly, over the years I have found the average female to be a bit boring! I much rather be around an educated lady that can engage me intellectually! I have this message to the person that wrote this piece! If you are not finding a man that is secure in his manhood maybe you need to start looking for Alpha males and leave the beta guys alone! It is what it is, sorry if you find that offensive!
Right? I mentioned in a discussion how I didn't "need" a man and I'd be fine on my own and one of the men said that was ridiculous and all women would die without them. I didn't say I hate them, I said I don't need one for survival
The only tottaly independent woman are the lesbians or the virgins by choice), nothing more dependent to a men then the ones Who have sex. Even more so the submissive ones... it looks like people here only talks about financially independence, lol. Sexual dependente to the poing in having casual sex with Tinder is so modern independence lol🤣
"In this day and age women no longer need men..." That just isn't true, because we ALL need someone, not necessarily for financial support, but because if we spend all of our time on our own and try to live without actual physical contact, we'll go insane. Who wants to end up as a crazy old cat-lady? I don't! No, you can take your "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle" feminist clap-trap and... well, use your imagination :D
The only tottaly independent woman are the lesbians or the virgins by choice), nothing more dependent to a men then the ones Who have sex. Even more so the submissive ones... it looks like people here only talks about financially independence, lol. Sexual dependente to the poing in having casual sex with Tinder is so modern independence lol🤣 i respect more the ones Who refuse casual sex and buy a vibrator, way more independent.
I think you have this wrong. Men aren't threatened by women who have good jobs, they don't like women who treat a man like a sperm donor and then want child support rather than him really having a role in the kid's life or not appreciating what the man brings to the relationship in terms of companionship.
I don't feel threaten by independent women. Sure go be independent, however if you want kids sooner or later your gonna have to make a choice. Sure you can hire nannies and stuff but when the time comes when you wanna spend time with your kids, they won't want to because they don't know you. Children even more so at a young age go by visiual contact so if your not their than don't expect that child to be that good of a kid. Yea you could ask your husband to do it but he's gonna feel the same way so you both need to make a choice. But hey to each their own, be independent idc
Most doesn't. It's most likely a misconception and false assumption some female's make up in their mind, even between like minded to not get more insecure about their own worth.
The most common misconception is that someone is threatened/intimidated when something didn't go their way. like not being attracted or interested in them when they are in them. or for that matter fishing for validation confirmation. That's just life. everyone doesn't like or are attracted to everyone. some doesn't have tome or are interested in bosting strangers ego.
A guy looking for a serious relationship would find the independence of a woman either meaningless or repulsive... depending to what degree we're talking about, because it means she has no good reason to be attracted to him except for sex. There are 3 levels of relationships: independence, dependent and interdependence. To be useful in a serious relationship you must be capable of interdependence, also know as team work.
”Do the men that are unhappy by this just want that level of control and for women”. Get this right I’m not even financially stable now but I’m not unhappy about modern women financial status. I’m sad for them thinking that our main agenda is to make women our slaves and do anything for us without asking (lmfao what a joke). No matter how stable you are sleeping around doesn’t makes you more desirable as a woman if anything it makes you more slutty while for a man it’s the opposite. The truth hurts but Men and women age differently. Men age like wine while women age like flowers. You’re life is yours but don’t complain later on how life is not fair
Awww I’m sorry you don’t like that women can vote and pay taxes. I’m sorry you want to control women with money. Otherwise, why care if someone is being a responsible adult?
@cheechee4me like i said earlier i feel sorry for the women that think once they’re stable they don’t need a man… if i didn’t cared that some women are wealthier than me why should I even give a damn about them being able to do all jobs they want and pay taxes etc… it just makes me feel sorry for them more, especially those that are devoted on proving the “women can do what a man can do” point, honestly it’s the most shallowest motivation i know to date … women are meant to follow mens lead naturally … if not then stop looking for taller stronger and wealthier men than yourself … it’s not by chance girls on social media tend to put 6ft n above nba player etc its not all by chance … best case scenario if you managed to get one who’s nothing to the guy i described above y’all won’t last for a long time i give you my word… Please darling is your dad too and the men around this horrible with women also?… commanding one’s spouses isn’t something to be proud of… that’s not the reason people get married in the first place too LMFAO…
@Cheechee4me your definition of freedom is really funny… you should travel more around the world you’ll probably start thinking out of the box.. wish you the best
Well I’m sorry there are women like that. However, so are men and they’ve gotten away with it for a long time. Stop pointing the finger at women like you Jesus fucking Christ himself.
i don't think most modern men are threatened by independent women. In fact, most modern men prefer independent women. The only thing that modern men tend to be intimidated by are brilliant successful women.
by the way, don't ever think about the insecure, bitter, sad misogynists that believe that a woman's place should be the kitchen. These are the types of men who think that women should be inferior to men. They make terrible husbands
They are co-dependant. They have low self esteem and need your dependence on them to make them feel secure.
If a guy isn't needy and doesn't want to take care of a girl like she's their child they would be super happy you are independent. These days successful guys want successful girls on the same path as them. A girl with no career and no future is not hot.
it’s the type I tend to be attracted to, marry, date, relationships.
to me it goes hand in hand with confidence.
said it before, I like - Confident, Independent, intelligent, individuality, feisty.
I want to have the confidence in my partner that she can use those attributes and do stuff, last thing I want is someone I have to look after, would do my head in.
Also not threatened as those attributes also make for good subs lol
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Women aren’t financially dependent on men anymore. Yes their dependent on their only fans which makes them more profit than us men who do hard work. I’m not threatened by independent women. But I do feel disgusted that in a way that our all knowing God favored woman over man. A man is expendable and useless. We were given extra testosterone and society uses that to tell us shit like we can’t cry and that we need to be strong. Not only society exploits that fact but so do women. Soon every man will literally feel worthless and hate himself for being born a male. And society is working towards that. Woman are merely the catalyst for that goal. All these problems would have been solved if God just gave an equal amount of testosterone to both sexes. But ofcourse God never loved man to begin with.
You won’t even back up you statement by your identity. You hide in the shadows of anonymity, not courageous enough to back up your own opinion. Let me know when you are mature enough to convey an original opinion biased on your own logic.
What does my identity have anything to do with this. What does my identity have anything to do with maturity. God the stupidity on this site grows day by day. Do you think if I have a 10 inch dick my statement would be more valid? Why do you moronic monkeys of this site always bash for going anonymous. It’s a feature and I’m using it. You literally made women look even stupider with that statement. Were you saying that I’m immature because I didn’t have the proof to back it up? Women make more money than men posting booty pics for men who god gave extra testosterone to. If it wasn’t for that extra testosterone. We men wouldn’t be viewed as rapists. You women wouldn’t be sluts trying to get an ego boost off of men. And man wouldn’t be so horny paying for only fans and shit like that. This is all the proof you need.
Men generally want to be the bread winner and the protector. It's in our DNA. That doesn't mean we don't want women to succeed, but there is always an extra amount of respect given to a man who takes care of his family. It's not necessarily fun to have this role, it's a lot harder, but it's how we prove ourselves.
Don’t need a man for anything anymore. Times have changed. Independent women work hard for what they have and they don’t need a lazy mooch either, they worked hard and won’t let things jeopardize that. They’re busy with raising kids without dads help or money and having a man around is just another task or chore to tend to, in my experience and opinion. Guys are happy with a buffet of females online anyhow.
Women who scream and yell about how independent they are and how they don't need men seem to forget this when someone breaks into the house at 3 AM, or they are out to dinner on a date, or when they have a flat tire, or when the boat is sinking. In times like these they seem to magically need men, and throw a fit when men are smart enough to ignore them.
Yes. And the point about "3 AM" is exactly why no man should ever apologize for wanting a woman to make him a sandwich or clean a toilet. Women claim that we're all the same so everyone should do 50/50 or even that a man should do more housework because it makes her feel good. Nah, let's do the math... if I'm on call to risk my life for her that's worth something. So is all the other things I do that she has no interest in doing but she benefits from. Men shouldn't be reducing the value of what they provide just to make her feel "better". A couple can be a team.. but don't go thinking that you as a man aren't worth a lot. You are.
I'm not threatened by independent women. In fact, I prefer them.
In a relationship, I want my partner to be able to take care of herself, to make decisions without requiring me t o be involved. .. unless she wants me to. And I've been fortunate to find that type of woman in a couple of my relationships, including my current SO.
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You got it! Bravo! The moment they can't control their woman, who is practically a financial hostage and cooks for him at the mercy of him, it closes the gates of him abusing her or cheating on her. Making it possible to terminate a toxic relationship or marriage. The women, who have at least some self respect don't settle for that. Why risk that? You want something? You go and get it.
Narcissists are afraid of independent people, not something that is limited to just men. Whatever the case, man, woman, gay, straight, intimate, or just a friend, a good person wants the people in their lives to be successful in everything that they do. Miserable people want everyone around them to feel inferior to them.
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We've evolved to be providers. Many of us find enjoyment and meaning in providing. And while there are some who may be intimidated, intimidated often isn't the right word. With all due respect, that's a word people use because they feel insecure that many members of a certain group aren't fond if a quality they harbor. It's a defense mechanism. Just like how homophobe came about. A phobia of homosexuality is very rare (cases in jail might be an exception). What they meant to say is anti-homosexual. But implying they have a phobia of homosexuals is demeaning and makes them feel better about doing so. It would be more accurate to say that many men are turned off by independent women.
Most men that feel a threat in my view are beta males. In people under 30 generally, most women tend to bully them. This starts to change when people get into their late 30s! I see a lady some! She works at one of the local TV stations near my home. Makes decent money and has two daughters 17 and 14. She and I both have made it clear we will never marry and just like being around each other AND her daughters are also great gals. I'm an Alpha male! I don't see men or women as a threat. Honestly, over the years I have found the average female to be a bit boring! I much rather be around an educated lady that can engage me intellectually! I have this message to the person that wrote this piece! If you are not finding a man that is secure in his manhood maybe you need to start looking for Alpha males and leave the beta guys alone! It is what it is, sorry if you find that offensive!
Right? I mentioned in a discussion how I didn't "need" a man and I'd be fine on my own and one of the men said that was ridiculous and all women would die without them. I didn't say I hate them, I said I don't need one for survival
Women always say they don't need men until they need help
@leosp5000 oh and you’re so much more skilled than everyone else?
I never said that.
The only tottaly independent woman are the lesbians or the virgins by choice), nothing more dependent to a men then the ones Who have sex. Even more so the submissive ones... it looks like people here only talks about financially independence, lol. Sexual dependente to the poing in having casual sex with Tinder is so modern independence lol🤣
@leosp5000 help with what? My mom's a certified mechanic, raised 2 kids by herself, and she finished highschool. We don't "need your help"
"In this day and age women no longer need men..."
That just isn't true, because we ALL need someone, not necessarily for financial support, but because if we spend all of our time on our own and try to live without actual physical contact, we'll go insane. Who wants to end up as a crazy old cat-lady? I don't!
No, you can take your "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle" feminist clap-trap and... well, use your imagination :D
I’m talking about financial dependency not emotional..
The only tottaly independent woman are the lesbians or the virgins by choice), nothing more dependent to a men then the ones Who have sex. Even more so the submissive ones... it looks like people here only talks about financially independence, lol. Sexual dependente to the poing in having casual sex with Tinder is so modern independence lol🤣 i respect more the ones Who refuse casual sex and buy a vibrator, way more independent.
I think you have this wrong. Men aren't threatened by women who have good jobs, they don't like women who treat a man like a sperm donor and then want child support rather than him really having a role in the kid's life or not appreciating what the man brings to the relationship in terms of companionship.
I don't feel threaten by independent women. Sure go be independent, however if you want kids sooner or later your gonna have to make a choice. Sure you can hire nannies and stuff but when the time comes when you wanna spend time with your kids, they won't want to because they don't know you. Children even more so at a young age go by visiual contact so if your not their than don't expect that child to be that good of a kid. Yea you could ask your husband to do it but he's gonna feel the same way so you both need to make a choice. But hey to each their own, be independent idc
Most doesn't.
It's most likely a misconception and false assumption some female's make up in their mind, even between like minded to not get more insecure about their own worth.
The most common misconception is that someone is threatened/intimidated when something didn't go their way. like not being attracted or interested in them when they are in them. or for that matter fishing for validation confirmation.
That's just life. everyone doesn't like or are attracted to everyone. some doesn't have tome or are interested in bosting strangers ego.
A guy looking for a serious relationship would find the independence of a woman either meaningless or repulsive... depending to what degree we're talking about, because it means she has no good reason to be attracted to him except for sex. There are 3 levels of relationships: independence, dependent and interdependence. To be useful in a serious relationship you must be capable of interdependence, also know as team work.
”Do the men that are unhappy by this just want that level of control and for women”.
Get this right I’m not even financially stable now but I’m not unhappy about modern women financial status. I’m sad for them thinking that our main agenda is to make women our slaves and do anything for us without asking (lmfao what a joke). No matter how stable you are sleeping around doesn’t makes you more desirable as a woman if anything it makes you more slutty while for a man it’s the opposite.
The truth hurts but Men and women age differently. Men age like wine while women age like flowers. You’re life is yours but don’t complain later on how life is not fair
Awww I’m sorry you don’t like that women can vote and pay taxes. I’m sorry you want to control women with money. Otherwise, why care if someone is being a responsible adult?
Yeah no thanks. I don’t want the village bicycle. Keep coping.
@cheechee4me like i said earlier i feel sorry for the women that think once they’re stable they don’t need a man… if i didn’t cared that some women are wealthier than me why should I even give a damn about them being able to do all jobs they want and pay taxes etc… it just makes me feel sorry for them more, especially those that are devoted on proving the “women can do what a man can do” point, honestly it’s the most shallowest motivation i know to date … women are meant to follow mens lead naturally … if not then stop looking for taller stronger and wealthier men than yourself … it’s not by chance girls on social media tend to put 6ft n above nba player etc its not all by chance … best case scenario if you managed to get one who’s nothing to the guy i described above y’all won’t last for a long time i give you my word…
Please darling is your dad too and the men around this horrible with women also?… commanding one’s spouses isn’t something to be proud of… that’s not the reason people get married in the first place too LMFAO…
@Cheechee4me your definition of freedom is really funny… you should travel more around the world you’ll probably start thinking out of the box.. wish you the best
Well I’m sorry there are women like that. However, so are men and they’ve gotten away with it for a long time. Stop pointing the finger at women like you Jesus fucking Christ himself.
i don't think most modern men are threatened by independent women. In fact, most modern men prefer independent women. The only thing that modern men tend to be intimidated by are brilliant successful women.
by the way, don't ever think about the insecure, bitter, sad misogynists that believe that a woman's place should be the kitchen. These are the types of men who think that women should be inferior to men. They make terrible husbands
They are co-dependant. They have low self esteem and need your dependence on them to make them feel secure.
If a guy isn't needy and doesn't want to take care of a girl like she's their child they would be super happy you are independent. These days successful guys want successful girls on the same path as them. A girl with no career and no future is not hot.
it’s the type I tend to be attracted to, marry, date, relationships.
to me it goes hand in hand with confidence.
said it before, I like - Confident, Independent, intelligent, individuality, feisty.
I want to have the confidence in my partner that she can use those attributes and do stuff, last thing I want is someone I have to look after, would do my head in.
Also not threatened as those attributes also make for good subs lol
Women aren’t financially dependent on men anymore. Yes their dependent on their only fans which makes them more profit than us men who do hard work. I’m not threatened by independent women. But I do feel disgusted that in a way that our all knowing God favored woman over man. A man is expendable and useless. We were given extra testosterone and society uses that to tell us shit like we can’t cry and that we need to be strong. Not only society exploits that fact but so do women. Soon every man will literally feel worthless and hate himself for being born a male. And society is working towards that. Woman are merely the catalyst for that goal. All these problems would have been solved if God just gave an equal amount of testosterone to both sexes. But ofcourse God never loved man to begin with.
*the essence of fragile and toxic masculinity
When facts are given straight out they seem like toxicity to you people. This is the reality we live in.
The truth hurts
You won’t even back up you statement by your identity. You hide in the shadows of anonymity, not courageous enough to back up your own opinion. Let me know when you are mature enough to convey an original opinion biased on your own logic.
What does my identity have anything to do with this. What does my identity have anything to do with maturity. God the stupidity on this site grows day by day. Do you think if I have a 10 inch dick my statement would be more valid? Why do you moronic monkeys of this site always bash for going anonymous. It’s a feature and I’m using it. You literally made women look even stupider with that statement. Were you saying that I’m immature because I didn’t have the proof to back it up? Women make more money than men posting booty pics for men who god gave extra testosterone to. If it wasn’t for that extra testosterone. We men wouldn’t be viewed as rapists. You women wouldn’t be sluts trying to get an ego boost off of men. And man wouldn’t be so horny paying for only fans and shit like that. This is all the proof you need.
Men generally want to be the bread winner and the protector. It's in our DNA. That doesn't mean we don't want women to succeed, but there is always an extra amount of respect given to a man who takes care of his family. It's not necessarily fun to have this role, it's a lot harder, but it's how we prove ourselves.
Well said.
Don’t need a man for anything anymore. Times have changed. Independent women work hard for what they have and they don’t need a lazy mooch either, they worked hard and won’t let things jeopardize that. They’re busy with raising kids without dads help or money and having a man around is just another task or chore to tend to, in my experience and opinion.
Guys are happy with a buffet of females online anyhow.
Women who scream and yell about how independent they are and how they don't need men seem to forget this when someone breaks into the house at 3 AM, or they are out to dinner on a date, or when they have a flat tire, or when the boat is sinking. In times like these they seem to magically need men, and throw a fit when men are smart enough to ignore them.
Nailed it! Also don't forget the army. I've not seen a single "independent woman" protect other women from the Taliban 😂
Yes. And the point about "3 AM" is exactly why no man should ever apologize for wanting a woman to make him a sandwich or clean a toilet. Women claim that we're all the same so everyone should do 50/50 or even that a man should do more housework because it makes her feel good. Nah, let's do the math... if I'm on call to risk my life for her that's worth something. So is all the other things I do that she has no interest in doing but she benefits from. Men shouldn't be reducing the value of what they provide just to make her feel "better". A couple can be a team.. but don't go thinking that you as a man aren't worth a lot. You are.
I'm not threatened by independent women. In fact, I prefer them.
In a relationship, I want my partner to be able to take care of herself, to make decisions without requiring me t o be involved. .. unless she wants me to. And I've been fortunate to find that type of woman in a couple of my relationships, including my current SO.
You got it! Bravo!
The moment they can't control their woman, who is practically a financial hostage and cooks for him at the mercy of him, it closes the gates of him abusing her or cheating on her. Making it possible to terminate a toxic relationship or marriage.
The women, who have at least some self respect don't settle for that. Why risk that? You want something? You go and get it.
every time I see a woman say that she's an insufferable bitch
Narcissists are afraid of independent people, not something that is limited to just men. Whatever the case, man, woman, gay, straight, intimate, or just a friend, a good person wants the people in their lives to be successful in everything that they do. Miserable people want everyone around them to feel inferior to them.