Is the U. S. more divided than it was before The Civil War?

[Twalli]

Obviously the U. S. was divided leading up to The Civil War. Were we more divided then when we are now? Also if we have another Civil War, what would it be about?

[Heartache0405]

Seems pretty close to me... I mean, if you think about it, we are already in a form of civil war. A 4th and 5th generational war. Propaganda, information, and economical warfare. We've also had on the ground scurmishes. Antifa v proud boys, left v right, insurgency, a guy executed a Trump supporter on the streets. The riots where Rittenhouse defended himself, the looting that killed David Dorn. If you think about it, we are in a civil war. Things are happening almost every day. It's just a matter of, do you consider this a civil war or just everyday life?

[Twalli]

As nobody has rebelled with enough forces to actually put up a fight, no. I've gotten so desensitized to gun violence, unless it happens near me I don't even care. It hurts too much to care.

[Heartache0405]

@Twalli, so you consider these things to be just everyday life?

[Twalli]

Sadly, yes. Do they have to be? No. Are they? Yes.

[Friendlybro79]

@heartache0405 i think we use the word war too loosely. We're politically and culturally divided. The violence is becoming too normal but it isn't the North vs the South with mass organized armies. It's a bunch of insane smaller groups (more like gangs) that have access to too many weapons with a vigilante attitude. All these morons resorting to violence think it's their rights being infringed on and they're this ultimate victim of something which can only be solved with them shooting someone.

[libsaretards]

I believe we are about as divided as pre-Civil War. If another one breaks out, it will be because Democrats will overstep. They are the party that loves to attack the Constitutional rights we have in the name of "security". That was Hitler's promise. Look how that went. Only difference is Hitler successfully disarmed his opponents within Germany before showing his true colors. Half of America is not that stupid. The next Civil War will be over gun rights and the nature of the Constitution itself.

[MrCommodore]

The US is currently politically divided for a number of reasons
1. The Republic/Conservative vs Democrat/Liberal political options promotes this divide, no centerist 3rd option for people who are not left or right wing. The missing middle third.
2. Well financed lobbying groups supported by left wing and right wing people are forcing things on a Nation, despite a sizable portion of the Country bring against it. This isolates people and the become disillusioned.
3. A general failure to listen to people's concerns, I mean really listen and try to work a compromise. Alienating 49% of the population may fall under the "Majority rules" mantra, but its divisive and is bad for the US.

US politicians are to blame (both sides), elected by the people, yet campaigns are funded by Corporate or Social lobby groups or fundraisers, and ultimately the politicians serve the hand that finances them.

[Friendlybro79]

Well said

[noohair]

In the 21st century, the human brain has been usurped by digital technology. I see it in younger folks all over. Every thought is a binary choice. There is no context. No measure of relative value. Everything is, yes/no, love/hate, on/off. Best day ever or worst day ever. The human mind was not meant to function like an on/off switch. Our brains have billions of complex connections and digital technology has corrupted out thought process. Maybe that is why Mental Illness is surging. We have reverted back into tribalism and it is not positive process for society. But it allows the political overseer class to better control the masses.

[Justquestions124124]

I`m not U. S. citizen, but it looks like you really divided into leftists and right-wingers. And you also pay too much attention to race. So, in Eastern Europe we have memes like that -
Europeans - Maths is difficult
Asians - Maths is easy
Americans - Is Math rasism?

[Twalli]

Math isn't easier for people from Asia. They are just perceived to be better because there's no language barrier. Math is math is math.

[Justquestions124124]

Actually this joke was not about math, but about racial struggles

[exitseven]

Thee are a lot more people and a lot more wealth. It intensifies the division. The main cause of the Civil War was slavery. Today it is a division of people who work for a living vs. people on some form of welfare.

[Shamalien]

And those on welfare are taking their livlihood from those who work. There is a theft occuring, and really it should be the victims of this theft who land the first blow, but I have a feeling it will ignite from the other side... so greedy and entitled they are

[exitseven]

@Shamalien They won't like the result.

[Twalli]

Actually the richest don't work. They are rich from investments

[Shamalien]

The very richest have sure things and can manipulate the market, but many successful rich people took risk to get that rich... and risk should pay out if you win

[Twalli]

@Shamalien more often their parents took risks.

[RolandCuthbert]

I dunno.

But I do know this. The Civil War is still unresolved. And we need to figure out a way to a conversation that allows for us to get some closure.

[zerofuks]

Probably more divided thanks to the Internet. It really is 5050 America needs to be divided up before the Civil War breaks out.

[Twalli]

How should it be divided, and over what?

[zerofuks]

Up to probably like 11 countries. America's culture is not just one culture it's like 11 many cultures are quite similar But you probably could divide it into 3 or 4 and it be find. Few of them are basically complete opposites of each other.

It used to be fine because of state's rights but for some reason liberals cannot stand others living how they don't think is right and force people into their beliefs with the federal government.

There's many maps made on this usually California and Texas are their own country Florida and a few surrounding States become their country. It will be for the best. the 2 core ideologies cannot coexist.

One want system based on race and the government having all the power and deciding who gets what Being taking care of by the government as their mommy and daddy.

The other belief just wants to be left alone and have a merit based system these 2 ideologies cannot coexist

[Twalli]

You do realize that doing this would be a logistic nightmare and require a lot of votes. Furthermore if January 6 is any guide, those that like guns will riot and kill more people if they don't like the way the votes went.

[zerofuks]

Actually it just requires a convention of the States doesn't require the people voting.

You just say free trade between the countries you just established there problem solved no logistic change.

Also you don't understand what happened on January 6 literally they literally they were let into the building by the guards the only person who died was killed by one of the guards and they were unarmed. There's a reason why none of them are being charged really other than trespassing and just being held indefinitely without being charged against the Constitution

The people who are going to kill are actually the black lives matter and antifa As you can already see multiple riots throughout the past years.

[Twalli]

So the capitol police officer than was shown to be beaten and killed wasn't real? You should tell his family, they'll be glad that he didn't die. I wonder who they buried is though. You should tell his family, they should know that he died. BLM and Antifa haven't killed anyone, they've just destroyed property and been general nuisances.

[zerofuks]

That never happened that was a fake story for media the only capital police officer who died had a heart attack natural causes. Even their own family came out and was saying the media is lying.

There has been multiple deaths thanks to the riots they cost and and billions of damages. Really you're just proving how big the divide is and how little you know

[Friendlybro79]

@Twalli I agree with you

[Friendlybro79]

The civil war was mainly about slavery. What is your reason for a current civil war?

[Twalli]

I don't have ince, but a lot of people think we are primed for one in our lifetime

[Friendlybro79]

Fair enough. In my opinion, I guess that we're not going to have a civil war in our lifetimes. I think the idea of one is awful and something I've heard conspiracy theorists talk about. I think those folks that are in belief the election was stolen and the people that stormed the capital are the biggest (maybe not only) source of people to be concerned about. So if one happens, which I doubt, it would be based in misinformed people acting in vigilantism because of fear of something that doesn't actually exist. Ex democrats are eating babies conspiracy

[CuriousMufuxka]

Hell if I know. That was well over a hundred years before I was born! I'd say equal just to answer the question.

[TorontoIncel]

How is it divided when it's all white and conservative?

[Twalli]

Obviously it's not if Buden was elected, and Democrats court the black vote.

[loveslongnails]

We won't. Everyone is too self absorbed to bother.

[jahaims]

Lmfao definitely not