Read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
If you support freedom, democracy and human rights, why don't you support the Palestinians?
Read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
I support Palestine and I want world peace. Unfortunately, people are stupid and the image they see regarding Middle Eastern people through western news outlets (pushing a racist agenda) as people who are stupid, backwards and blowing themselves up. Zionism is a political ideology started in the 1890s to justify the state of Israel. The Balfour Accord, the creation of the UN, IMF, WB in the 1940s was all to "legitimize" the state of Israel. All to invade the Middle East, an area where the prophets and imams were born. Even in Biblical and Jewish teachings it mentions that God did test the Israelites through hardships, but even through Judaism of Orthodox Jews reject the state of Israel. Zionism's satanic teachings actually go against Judaism. But people are born to believe this tired story of WW2 and how the Jews were murdered.
Yes, it is awful, but why do anti-Palestinian supporters still stick by Israel's travesties, wars and crimes repeating history of what Nazi Germany did to the Jews. Now Zionist Israel is oppressing Palestinians. This world is such a hateful place, filled with misinformation, favouritism, greed and selfishness. When Donald Trump even said Netanyahu and Israel do not want peace with the Palestinians, that just shows me a man as cynical as Trump would say that proves to me Israel is an evil place. Calling out a country is not anti-semitic and I am not attacking Jews. After World War II how come the United States didn't give half of their lands and named it Israel? I mean colonial settlers stole the lands of what is now known as United States from Native Indians. I could go on and on but I have a feeling majority of the people in the comments section who hate Palestine or Palestinians do so because they were taught and brain washed to hate.
I really don't care how many dislikes this comment get, I stated I want world peace but when you mix greed and political ideologies together people will be in a state of psychosis and listen to whatever the media or government tells them. Mike Pompeo once said, working for the CIA, they lied, they cheated, they stole and the crowd cheered and clapped. So when I hear people state Palestinians don't deserve rights, it presents to me people then say "God appointed the lands to the Jews", all I will say is were you there when it happened? People will say no, but it's in books. My rebuttal, then why do Orthodox Jews reject the state of Israel until their messiah returns. Under the 3 main Abrahamic faiths (Christianity, Judaism an Islam) all turn to a messiah figure to help this world. Even in Islam, it mentions the return of Hazrat Isa (Jesus) with the 12th imam. When God presents the truth, the ignorant and the wicked will be exposed.
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There is more to the history of the region than that one book.
The failure of Palestinian Arabs to pursue peace can be traced back 100 years with defiance to any form of Jewish sovereignty. The Palestinians could have had peace and their own state had their leaders recognized Israel's overtures by bargaining in good faith, renouncing violence and recognizing Israel's right to exist but did not. They had no less than seven opportunities to do so but did not. Instead, they acted with reckless abandon to bring about the destruction of the Jewish state and Jewish people.
The first was in 1917, when the Balfour Declaration not only declared a Jewish homeland, but also mandated that nothing be done to prejudice or disrupt any exiting Arab communities. But that changed with the Nebi Musa riot in April 1920, when, in Jerusalem, Palestinians from nearby towns poured in and fomented jihad against the Jews: the mayor of Jerusalem (who is himself a Muslim) was quoted as saying: "If we don't use force against the Zionists and against the Jews, we will never be rid of them." Many in the crowd shouted back: "We will drink the blood of the Jews!" The mobs vented their anger, burning, pillaging, and beating up Jews and Arab police officers alike wherever they went.
The second came in 1937, where the Peel Commission under Chaim Weizmann pressed for a two-state solution. The Jews were offered an even smaller territory on the coast from Tel Aviv up through the north, making up about one fifth of the remaining mandate territory. The Palestinians, for their own state, would take the remaining four fifths. This did not satisfy them, and they summarily rejected the plan. The Palestinians again resorted to jihad, which the British subsequently quelled. After WW2, Britain ceded authority of the mandate to the U. N.
Third, in May 1948, the U. N. recommended still another partition plan to the General Assembly. It would have divided the territory almost equally. The Zionists, in goodwill, made their acceptance known almost immediately. But true to form, the Palestinians retorted that any partition plan would be met with "rivers of blood," and the newly formed Arab Liberation Army was sent to annihilate the Jews. Thankfully, the Jews won a decisive victory, and the Palestinians ended up with nothing and became refugees. Never did it occur to the leaders of Egypt or Jordan to accord the Palestinians a state. The Jews did!
Fourth, in 1993 in Oslo, the Palestinians could have gotten everything they wanted, complete with mutual letters of recognition. Arafat proved unfaithful.
Fifth, in 2000 at Camp David, Ehud Barak agreed to borders proposed by Bill Clinton. The agreement would have established a West Bank-Gaza Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital. Again Arafat proved refractory by walking out and starting the Second Intifada.
Sixth, in 2005, Israel P. M. Ariel Sharon decided that it was neither economically nor militarily feasible for Israel to govern 1.1 million Palestinians in Gaza. For his part, Sharon dismantled all settlements and recalled the Israeli army back to the 1967 borders between Israel and Gaza without land swaps while, at the same time, leaving behind donated greenhouses, which the people could have used to create an agriculture export industry to jump-start their failing economy. True to form, the Palestinians didn't comport. The Palestinians destroyed the greenhouses and proceeded to launch an interminable array of rocket attacks against civilian targets in Israel to no avail.
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Seventh, in September 2008, Ehud Olmert presented Palestinian president Abbas with still another partition plan – his own. It was to have been a detailed map of a future Palestinian state with what would have been mutually agreed land swaps. The Palestinians would have gotten all of the West Bank and Gaza prior to the '67 war. Olmert also proposed to divide Jerusalem. Abbas took the map of the plan back to his office for further consideration and never returned.
That was the last time negotiations were held with any alacrity. Each time, Jewish overtures were met with violence. Each time, Israel's detractors cowered behind the shields of anonymity and political correctness when negotiations failed.
History is rooted in objective fact and can be clearly discerned through an honest reading of the historical record. However Israel's detractors sympathize with terrorists and cheerlead for the destruction of Israel, they must consider that there exists no country in the Muslim world where Christians and especially Jews enjoy the same freedoms in frequency and in magnitude as Muslims do in Australia, all of Western Europe, the Americas, and especially Israel. These missed opportunities reveal the consistent manipulation of the so-called peace process through decades of malicious intent of the Arab negotiators as pretexts for hastening Israel's destruction. The economic prosperity that peace could have conferred on both Israelis and Palestinians is the biggest casualty of all.
"one book"
There are at least 100 books I know that did a research on the crimes Israel did against the Palestinians, you ignorant. Do you wanna talk about it?
"The failure of Palestinian Arabs to pursue peace"
There's just 1 peace process according to international law and it must be guided by the UNGA Res. 194(III), which Israel refuses to comply with. So what's your factual basis to claim that the Palestinians "fail to pursue peace"? You have none because you know you're lying.
"defiance to any form of Jewish sovereignty"
No such thing as "Jewish sovereignty," as there's no right within international law to build an ethnostate excluding part of its population.
"The Palestinians could have had peace and their own state had their leaders recognized Israel's overtures by bargaining in good faith"
The Palestinians were victims of an ethnic cleansing campaign. They couldn't recognize Israel's claims for the reason that crimes aren't a source of law and rights, so the ball's in Israel's court. Why don't Israelis recognize they committed a series of crimes against humanity and work to repair it? Why don't Zionists recognize the Palestinian people's right to self-determination?
"they acted with reckless abandon to bring about the destruction of the Jewish state and Jewish people."
If you must know, Zionists destroyed Palestine, they massacred, looted, raped and terrorized people. They destroyed 531 Palestinian villages and forced 750k Palestinians into the situation of refugees. They stole the refugees' properties.
"They had no less than seven opportunities to do so but did not."
Another lie. Israel rejects all peace plans for the region.
"The first was in 1917, when the Balfour Declaration not only declared a Jewish homeland"
Non-binding document. Moreover, international law never allowed the Brits to use the Palestinian territory as their property, they had no right to decide what should be done out of another people's land.
"Nebi Musa riot in April 1920, when, in Jerusalem, Palestinians from nearby towns poured in and fomented jihad against the Jews"
Lie. The factors that led to the Nebi Musa riots were the illegal immigration of Jews to Palestine and the Jewish hostility against Muslims and Muslim sacred places, land disputes and the militarization of Jewish communities. About the anti-arab hostility, one of the founding fathers of Zionism said, "[Zionists] behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, trespass unjustly upon their boundaries, beat them shamefully without reason and even brag about it, and nobody stands to check this contemptible and dan-
gerous tendency."
Are you surprised that the Arabs rioted?
"The second came in 1937, where the Peel Commission"
The Peel Commission planned to expel 250k Palestinians by force, so the document is criminal by itself.
"The Jews were offered an even smaller territory on the coast from Tel Aviv up through the north, making up about one fifth of the remaining mandate territory"
Ben Gurion once said, "The Peel Commission would be the first step for Zionists to conquer the Palestinian territory as whole." It's clear that Zionists aimed to create a war in the region and expel the Palestinians. Moreover, under the PC the Palestinians would get mostly the lands in the Negev desert to live in, which is absurd.
"Third, in May 1948, the U. N. recommended still another partition plan"
The Palestinians were barred from taking place in the table of negotiations.
"Arab Liberation Army to annihilate Jews"
Another lie. The ALA was resisting the Zionist takeover of their land. Arabs were reasonably afraid that Zionists would under the best circumstances just make them 2nd class citizens. At worst, they'd be victims of a genocide. The ALA was there to prevent it, as they've seen how Zionist militias were massacring Palestinian civilians.
"It would have divided the territory almost equally"
False. The plan gave Israel 70% of the Palestinian territory and the best lands despite Jews being only ~35% of the population in the former territory of the Mandatory Palestine
"The Zionists, in goodwill, made their acceptance known almost immediately."
Zionists always have been against the creation of a Palestinian state in the region and always have been fighting to obstruct any Palestinian attempt to do so.
"Thankfully, the Jews won a decisive victory, and the Palestinians ended up with nothing and became refugees."
Thankfully? Are you happy that Palestinian civilians became refugees? You're a fucking sociopath.
"Fourth, in 1993 in Oslo, the Palestinians could have gotten everything they wanted, complete with mutual letters of recognition. "
Why did Jewish settlers killed Yitzhak Rabin? Why so many Zionists wanted to revoke the Oslo Accords (in fact they ended up doing so)?
"Sixth, in 2005, Israel P. M. Ariel Sharon decided that it was neither economically nor militarily feasible for Israel to govern 1.1 million Palestinians in Gaza"
Under the International Humanitarian Law, a place is still under occupation if a foreign force keeps restrictive measures against its people freedom of movement, excessive surveillance, checkpoints and military incursions. By the way, Israel never helped Gazans, only the UNRWA does.
"For his part, Sharon dismantled all settlements"
Only in Gaza, and after an array of international backlash.
Ehud Olmert presented Palestinian president Abbas with still another partition plan – his own"
No peace plan is legal if it doesn't meet the requirements of the Res. 194 (III).
political correctness when negotiations failed."
Negotiations fail because Israel fail to meet its responsibilities under international law, especially under the Res. 194 for starters.
"History is rooted in objective fact and can be clearly discerned through an honest reading of the historical record."
Which you're unable to do either because you're too stupid or because you're too dishonest.
"However Israel's detractors sympathize with terrorists and cheerlead for the destruction of Israel"
False. This is just Zionist far right propaganda and scaremongering.
"they must consider that there exists no country in the"
False. Christians and especially Muslims are regularly subjected to disrespect and sometimes violence in Israel. Israel has a habit of desecrating Muslim sacred places for starters.
"These missed opportunities reveal the consistent manipulation of the so-called peace process through decades of malicious intent of the Arab negotiators as pretexts for hastening Israel's destruction."
This is the most spurious behavior I've ever seen: the perpetrators of an ethnic cleansing campaing (and their supporters) crying that "there's no peace" and blaming the victims for such outcome. It shows how moral the cause of Zionism is...
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The Palestinians as a people are fine, but the Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah, Hamas, and their affiliates are unquestionably the bad guys in that conflict. Every single time without exception that peace falls apart, it's entirely because of them.
Israel is perfectly content with coexistence, and has been giving the areas controlled by the aforementioned groups free power and water as well as recognizing their autonomy (even in Gaza) in spite of everything, which is generous to say the least. Most other countries would've started carpet bombing, gassing, or going door to door executing people for much less.
"Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah, Hamas, and their affiliates are unquestionably the bad guys in that conflict."
It's not them the ones who're being investigated by the ICC for crimes against humanity, forcibly transfer of population and the crime of apartheid for starters. Moreover, they aren't responsible for the creation of 8.7 million Palestinian refugees, a situation that already existed when the PA, Hezbollah and Hamas were created.
"Every single time without exception that peace falls apart, it's entirely because of them."
False. Israel is known as the aggressor in the region. I have the International Law to back up my claim, how can you back up yours?
"Israel is perfectly content with coexistence"
That contradicts what every Israeli leadership has been saying since 1948.
"recognizing their autonomy (even in Gaza) in spite of everything"
Both Gaza and the West Bank have been under constant occupation since 1967.
"in spite of everything, which is generous to say the least."
Israel isn't actively doing an openly genocidal policy against the Palestinians whose country, lands and properties they stole... How generous of them!
The Palestinians have no democracy, won’t make peace, waste donor money on terrorism, and have two oppressive terror regimes. Yet you blame Jews.
the various Palestinian terror regimes and groups have been trying to genocide Jews since before the founding of the State of Israel.
"Yet you blame Jews"
I don't blame Jews, not even the Israeli government.
I blame the US government for allowing the biggest criminals in the Middle East spit on international law and violate every norm of human decency under the excuse that a bunch of dirt poor Palestinians threaten Israel's existence.
The ICC launched an investigation against the Israeli government for the crime of apartheid and crimes against humanity. Since 1947, 8.7 million Palestinians live as refugees due to the Israeli aggression against them.
"For 70 years they have been offered peace"
No one besides Zionists would call such thing a "peace plan" giving the fact that Palestinians are expected to give up to its right to self-determination and right to compensation for the losses caused by both the war and the discriminatory policies of Israel. That "peace plan" has no existence under international law.
"but they haven’t got the brains to accept it."
Good job at proving how racist Zionists are!
"Even their Arab neighbours don’t want them."
Have you ever heard of the UNGA Resolution 194 (III)? Read it and you'll find out why the neighboring states don't grant it's citizenship to Palestinians.
That's wishful thinking on your part. You have no way to disprove what I said.
As a half Lebanese man who's country hates Israel - I say fuck Palestine - They're trash - not only are they trash - But we wanna talk history? Do we really want to have this conversation? This was the Israelis land way before it was anyone's land - It became sunni Palestinians land when some so called prophet decided to make people either comply or have their heads chopped off - So nor are they right historically - nor are they good civilized people currently - I'm glad they're in the situation they're in
It's funny how you lick Israeli testicles at the same time they're always bombing Lebanon and even invaded it during the 1980s. Self-hatred I guess.
It's funny how you have no fucking idea about the specifics of what happened - They're bombing lebanon because hezbollah challenges them constantly - you know that terrorist organization that has more weapons and staff than the lebanese army itself? - the invasion in the 1980s was literally during a Civil war in which half of the Lebanese population actually wanted and needed the Israelis to be there - a Lebanese leader (Bachir Gemayel) in 1982 before the invasion met with Menachem Begin to discuss the specifics of said invasion - The moment the Israelis left literally genocides happened - It's much much more complicated than whatever your ignorant mind might tell you - Let alone the fact that Palestinians were the ones that actually invaded us covertly in 1973 when they showed up with their guns because "they needed to defend themselves" and then overtly in 1975 when they attempted to assassinate another Lebanese leader that belonged to a certain group which led to more despicable things happening which literally led to the civil war - Let alone that they (Palestinians) tried to pull off the same crap in Jordan when they tried to assassinate the Jordanian prince in 1973 which not only led to the Jordan army killing Palestinians for being ungrateful dickheads but also led to the expulsion of those dickheads and the subsequent peace treaty the Jordanian government signed with the Isrealis after knowing that that's what the dickheads actually deserved - The only difference between Lebanon and Jordan was the unity of the people nothing else - Again you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
Me and my country, always support Palestine people for their rights and freedom
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Because there are 50 Muslims states 45 of which have have Islam as it’s official religion and there’s only 1 Jewish state. Plus the only other country in the world that’s not very Anti-somatic is the United States, They can’t stand Jews in Europe and the Middle East and Asian countries. Remember Europe is responsible for the death of 6 million Jews
1. "Because there are 50 Muslims states"
This is irrelevant as Palestinians are a distinct people, native of the land that today comprises Israel, and have nothing to do with the "50 Muslim states" you're talking about. Moreover, there's a UNGA Resolution that recognized the Palestinian people right to self-determination in 1948, thus the other Arab states cannot give citizenship to Palestinians without interfering negatively in the peace process.
2. "there’s only 1 Jewish state."
Israel has no right to be a Jewish state under international law as the international law doesn't recognize ethnostates/states based on the social exclusion of its minorities.
3. "Plus the only other country in the world that’s not very Anti-somatic is the United States"
You can't even spell the word "anti-semitic" properly, what makes you think you have a clue about what you're saying?
4. "Remember Europe is responsible for the death of 6 million Jews"
Their sufferings in history don't give Israel a free pass to commit crimes against humanity.
What makes you think people don't?
You're aware not many people supported the Iraq and Afghan war either, right?
This is because the US government has decided that the Palestinians are evil and Israelis are wonderful mostly because of money
The muslims are the ones full of hate. Israel just wants to live in peace. Read "Because They Hate" by Brigitte Gabriel.
"The muslims are the ones full of hate"
Fake news and odious anti-Muslim propaganda that you cannot prove with facts.
"Read "Because They Hate" by Brigitte Gabriel."
Brigitte Gabriel is a lobbyist, she's paid by AIPAC to write whatever they want.
As an anti-semite I support Israel because its more ethical than what Hitler did
i hate to bring this up but, im jewish
im not saying i support israel because of mormons and other crazy nut job christians, but, im also jewish, so, to see Palestinians hating israel ismply because it's jewish, is unacceptable to me
"Palestinians hating israel ismply because it's jewish"
They don't hate Jews, they hate zionists for stealing their land, enacting discriminatory laws that allow the government to steal their properties, revoking their citizenship, creating an apartheid state, doing crimes against humanity.
That's why people don't like zionists.
simply*
in my opinion the Palestinians have been dishing it out as much as they’ve got. They’re so hated not even their Arab brothers want anything to do with them. Why won’t Egypt, Syria, Jordan take them?
"in my opinion the Palestinians have been dishing it out as much as they’ve got."
You're blaming the victims for the crime they suffered. How noble of you, piece of sh*t.
"They’re so hated"
They're only hated by racist zionists like you.
"Why won’t Egypt, Syria, Jordan take them?"
Because that would undermine the Palestinian right to self-determination, dumbass.
"No they’re hated by their Arab brothers too"
You have no way to prove your claim because it's FALSE.
"They do nothing for them"
They grant temporary refuge to Palestinians mainly through the UNRWA, which is what's their part according to international law.
I prefer Palestinians who cease existing.
@Dee_Reynolds The same people who kill Palestinians would prefer White people who cease existing as well. You're very wrong if you think they only do evil to the Palestinians. But you deserve it.
1) lots of people support Palestinians, and more would if they stopped using violence
2) calling Israelis Zionists doesn’t help either
Look, reactionary
Israeli settlers stole the Palestinian people's land, their properties and their citizenship. They did a campaign of terror that destroyed 531 Palestinian villages in 1948 and paved the way for ethnic cleansing.
They murdered, they raped, they mutilated, they terrorized the Palestinians.
They enacted laws to revoke the Palestinians citizenship.
They enacted laws allowing the Israeli government to steal properties of Palestinians.
They've been committing all sorts of crimes as an occupation power since 1967.
The Israeli government's actions are denounced as crimes against humanity and constitute the crime of apartheid moreover.
Yet you came here to accuse the Palestinians - the victims - of being violent and to complain that I said the word "zionist"?
You couldn't be any lower than that. You have no humanity.
"But if Palestinians don’t stop acting like terrorists they’ll never get ahead"
There's no "but" or "if," you either support the Palestinian people's human rights or you don't. You speak in a position of privilege as you're not a refugee, not a stateless person and not an IDP because of the violence of an apartheid state. Don't confuse the reaction of the oppressed with the violence of the oppressor
"And they should stop using racist memes like Zionist."
Your neoliberal fragility and obscurantism are showing. Stop finding excuses to defend the apartheid state created by ZIONISTS.
Sorry, it’s it black and white. I support human rights. Palestinians rights are getting trampled but they’ll continue to be “the bad guy” to the world as long as they keep firing missiles at Israel. Israel is already getting a lot of flak for their colonial policies. Stop giving them excuses to invade.
"Stop giving them excuses to invade."
As if they need excuses to murder people and invade their territories... They've been doing it since 1947.
By the way, since then the Israelis have been committing grave breaches of the international law. They actually aren't much better than people like Adolf Eichmann and Reinhard Heydrich.
"This one sided hatred is why you’d suck at geopolitics"
You don't know even what a crime against humanity is because you're a fucking illiterate and an ignorant boor, yet you wanna pretend you know shit about geopolitics. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"But so is Palestine."
Hmmm, no. There's no evidence that Palestinians are committing crimes against humanity, for that reason Palestinian authorities aren't being prosecuted by the International Criminal Court, unlike the Israelis...
Your victim-blaming failed again.
Human rights are non-negotiable, neoliberal. Moreover, the Palestinian people live in state of misery, they have no AIPAC to buy people's support.
Your human rights are negotiable since you're a subhuman.
The basic premise of human rights are that they AREN'T negotiable, but since you're an ignorant boor, you don't know this. You're by far the dumbest person I've talked to.
Because they do not support any of those things. They are savages.
And you're racist and hateful. White people will only lose because crazies like you.
I don't support terrorists
The Palestinians are not terrorists.
because they are muslim terrorists
I see no difference between you and woke retards. You're all out of your minds.