Oh wow. I expected this to go one way and went a different way.
While men's beauty standards to bother me a bit, I don't find it super threatening in the same way. But after years of a "mandatory bikini shot" of girls in movies that I grew up with, it's kinda nice to see "mandatory shirtless shot" in newer movies. Namely Marvel movies. Because having grown up with sexy women shots, it always made me feel like I was the "undesirable gender". Girl undresses in a sitcom, and saxophone music kicks in. Guy undresses in sitcom, and everyone covers their eyes a two of them vomit. That sort of thing really kills your self-esteem and makes it feel like taking care of yourself isn't worth it. You'll be undesirable either way.
But yeah, I totally get and regularly notice what you are saying. And to add to it, the ideal male figure is WAYY harder to achieve than the ideal male figure. Much of the ideal female figure involves staying some version of thin. Rather that be skinny or curvy. But the male body type presented as beautiful is one you can generally only maintain temporarily, and have to very aggressively maintain.
If I recall, requiring actresses to have diet restrictions is now illegal. I mean, for the better. But like, it's still very much legal and very much the norm to require aggressively strict diet and fitness regimens for male actors. During shoots for Marvel films, basically any actor (probably named Chris) is required to eat only white rice and steamed chicken breast, and generally has to work out for an hour or two each day to eliminate whatever remaining fat they have. That "ripped" look on someone muscular generally is a symptom of malnutrition and sometimes dehydration, which they have to sustain long enough for a photo shoot or a movie. The body tries to gain fat when it gains muscle. Basically when your body gains muscle, it wants to look less like Thor and more like The Mountain. So for instance with Mr Universe pageants, they'll often start getting more of that Mountain look, and then leading into the pageant itself, they cut way back and then dehydrate themselves before the actual contest. Then they'll let it go a bit.
I mean this isn't the case for everyone. Like I'm pretty sure Jason Mamoa looks like that a lot of the time without starving himself. But for guys where that isn't already a hobby, it basically has to take over their life for as long as they want to maintain it.
Honestly, I think more important than simply having people of different shapes in film, they would need to have people of different shapes... and then portray them as desirable. They do have a history of doing this more with guys (usually "it's their personality"), while it's pretty uncommon to show a guy crushing on a thicker girl. But they do portray girls with relatively more attainable body types, whereas girls aren't as often shown gushing over a guy's looks unless he's in the absolute top echelon of chiseled.
Not sure why, but this kinda reminded me of The Hunger Games. Like, Katniss was a relatively normal looking girl. I mean super pretty, but normal. While the guys did look a little pretty-boy-ish, like Peeta didn't seem super ripped. He seemed more attainable, and yet still looked really good.
Of course, I have a soft spot for movies where the girl saves the guy, and her simply still liking him, and it not taking anything away. More often than not, it's a punchline. Or the girl is trying to save another girl and talking about how pathetic men are in the process.
Cry me a f*cking river. Women are scientifically proven to be ten times more shallow than men ever are. Or will you also stand up for all the guys under six feet or guys with small dicks who women sh*t on constantly every day and mislabel as "incels," as well? Cause, you know, f*ck male suicide rates skyrocketing while obese and extremely ugly women can make six figures on OnlyFans or selling their farts. You're proving the stereotype that "women only care about themselves" correct.
we get hated or even shamed on for rejecting short men but it is ok to bodyshame non curvy or non shaven women etc. It is ok if you prefere shaven women for example but stop hating on non shaven women. Using words like gross, unhygienic etc is inappropriate etc. and nobody call non shaven men like this which us hypocritical I can understand that you are not attracted to such women but i also dont call men manlets just because i am not attracted to short men. I would be stoned for saying that i am disgusted of short men for example but it is ok to dehumanize or calling women disgusting etc just because they dont fit in your preferences. I also dont understand the whiny bitter boys. Yes it is not ok to blame men for this but there are 100000000000 incel questions on gag that blame every shit on women. Where the fuck are you when there are so many disgusting antiwoman questions? You get butthurt when a female ask a question like this but suddenly you stfu when there are thousand of retarded incel questions. I swear gag is the home of bittter whiny hypocritical little boys who are mostly in their 30s
We can never change this ignorance of today's men, but most of the women are really happy with this, the sad truth. How can we prevent women from being seen as sex dolls with the influence of the media and social media? The answer to this is still not found.
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The words "this needs to be stopped" reveal that OP is probably a university student who is being indoctrinated into Feminism and other forms of Communism.
My beauty ideal is Barbie.
Why?
Because I am a white man who understands history and biology, especially racial genetics.
I find other races to be physically repulsive and the idea of sex with any of them is a form bestiality to be me.
The ideal white female form can be seen in classical Greek and Roman statues. Their bodies are well conformed and fit and their facial structures are classically white.
For the benefit of younger generations, from whom much knowledge of history and science has been withheld, the ancient Greeks and Romans were racially very different to the current inhabitants of those pieces of real estate.
In more modern context, the 20-year-old versions of actresses Kim Bassinger, Dianne Kruger, or Britt Ekland show my physical ideal.
As for a male beauty standard, I think that it would be difficult to improve on actor Robert Shaw, as he appeared in From Russia With Love and The Battle of the Bulge, or actor Dolph Lundgren as he appeared in Rocky IV.
Any white woman who does not admit to an itch in the ovaries when she looks at those two men in their prime is a liar.
What we each perceive to be beauty is actually an assessment (usually subconscious) of someone's genetic fitness as a mate.
Part of that assessment is defining racial characteristics, such as bone length and shape, muscle shape, facial structure (especially the nose), eye colour and hair colour.
The comments section below is honestly disappointing to read. There are many sexist comments coming mostly from men who think women only date men who are "10/10" and super muscular etc.
The same could be said about men who only date girls that are "10/10". This isn't a "women's thing", its a society thing.
Society tells women that men who are tall and muscular with sharp jawlines are attractive. Society tells men that women who are petite, slim-thick with a small waist and a big butt and big boobs are attractive. And if you don't apply to these standards, you're not seen as "attractive" by society.
Any person who has a few working brain cells will tell you that all that is complete bullshit that society feeds us. You don't have to be a super ripped man to be seen as attractive, and you don't need to fit into the "small waist/big boobs/big butt" fiasco to be seen as an attractive woman.
But of course, not many people would be down to date a girl or guy who is obese, because that's unhealthy. I'm not talking about people who have a little weight on them or are a little chubby, I'm talking about people who are so obese they literally can't live life normally. That's unhealthy and not attractive.
Both women and men have a crazy weight on their shoulders from society telling them they need to look perfect and achieve those unattainable beauty standards in order to be happy. That's absolutely false.
As long as you're healthy, taking care of yourself and loving yourself, you'll attract the right people who will appreciate you for who you are and those who don't give a damn about stupid beauty standards.
Competition exists. no matter what games you try to play to level the playing field. I bet if men accepted the idea that any fat, fugly, lazy woman is "hot", you women would then find something else to whine about & demand that men need to accept. Next thing it would be that men must accept a woman having 5 boyfriends and not complain about it or else it's "controlling". Yadda, yadda. It never ends, which is why a lot of us men got of the "try to please women" train and went in the opposite direction. We raised our standards. Tough luck for self-centered lazy women.
I've never felt threatened by men's "beauty" standards. I've always considered them fitness standards. A level of physical preparation every man worth his salt to aspire to and maintain. Fitness goes beyond attracting women. Being fit makes you live longer. It makes it harder to prey upon you, because you bite back. It makes you more capable in every way. It separates capable men from incapable ones. You'll survive longer if you are fit. And it is a never ending process, because the body won't maintain fitness on its own. You have to constantly be working out. That's just reality. We all wish we could get fit and then stay that way without effort, but nature deemed that not to be so.
People should go after others on a similar level as themselves. If they have high standards, they also need to fit the high standards of others. If somebody wants someone that is fit, they should be fit themselves. (Fit means in shape/athletic. Skinny does not equal fit.)
I don't know where you girls are getting this "beauty standard" bullshit from.. sounds like your pulling it out if your ass or making assumptions about men because you spend your whole life online on twitter and stuff... No guys in the real life have unreasonable high standards... Do you really think guys only go out with girls who are 10/10 and above?
Actually guys are pretty humble and will usually take average girls 5/10 and above. I know I do, infact I'd date a 4/10 cos I'd be lucky to get anyone... It's you girls who have the high standards.. y'all only go out with 10/10 muscular chads with big muscles and perfect personality... Maybe we should complain about girls high standards...
Well, I am a guy who is rated pretty low in terms of GaG beauty standards.
I have never had a problem.
Why do so many GaG males lack confidence?
Yeah, that's because men aren't whiny losers who would rather be victims than put effort into bettering themselves.
Working out 6 days a week is not "toxic", it makes me feel good about myself, both psychologically and physically.
To me seeing fit men isn't a source of insecurity or envy, it's a source of motivation.
Women just ought to grow up and stop being career victims.
Don't be such a small minded jerk and gatekeep. That dimwit on Youtube is just courting controversy for the payout, not because he has any understanding of the game.
Advertising and production do not drive culture - it's the other way round. People have those standards, and companies modify to produce for it.
Men don't talk about it as often as women, so it's ignored. On top of that, when we do, we're considered weak, cry babies, and we need to "get over it."
I love when people say its unrealistic. I've personally dated models and porn stars. Ofc photos and video can have editing and pro makeup and such but they are real women. I dont think its a big deal. Ofc men and women should aspire to maintain a healthy attractive body. All these fatasses complaining about airbrushing... yeah thats your issue. Smdh
My only beauty standard is that I find her attractive. I don't eant to say I have lower standards. That would be insulting to the women I find attractive, but I don't buy into the fake beauty standards that I believe are created by porn and the fashion industry, not men. A lot of men just fall for it.
I live in Southern California and the women here are extremely superficial. If you're not 6 feet tall and don't look like a gym rat narcissist, you're a low value man. They are even worse to each other.
No one cares about any male issue, we are entirely disposable and its made very clear to us from the beginning.
This is why so many men kill themselves.
Do you honestly believe that most men actually give a crap about living up to some silly beauty standard? Most of us have more important things to worry about.
Doubt men care about male "beauty standards" and how you are invisible if you are the "666" pack. I see average/below average men with mediocre jobs with beautiful women all the time, the opposite is rare to find.
You're not going to stop people from having their own opinions. People aren't toxic because you didn't get your way when you stomped your feet princess... Get over it.
Advertising has a lot to do with this, are you willing to battle them?
What is your personal definition of "toxic beauty standards"?
Not trying to pick a fight, just have an honest conversation/education.
Honestly this isn't wide spread beauty standards, just the general population. I do like women who are thin but not to the point it becomes unhealthy or needs surgery or something in order to get that type of body. I want natural ya know
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