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In the spirit of gender equity do you think that women should have to register for the draft too? (Page 2)
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I don't support women having to register for the draft. It is stupid af and have nothing to do with equality.
Why not?
In theory, it is the right thing to do. But the reality is that most women would be a liability in the armed forces so requiring them to register for the draft would be a very detrimental can of worms.
Israel doesn’t have an issue with it. Though it’s not a draft just mandatory 2 years service
Israel is far from a superpower and doesn't have nearly the military requirements the US does. Israel can allow the US to defend them, so having women in the military hardly effects them the way it does the US. Israel also deals with sexual harassment issues in the military much differently than the US has to. Women are not allowed to be a liability there the way they are in the US.
100% if you want equality to actually work and be equal
I'd say the better option would be nobody being needed to sign the draft.
Yes absolutely. That doesn’t mean she will be forced into the front lines. In a major conflict she will likely get a safer position.
Well, whole purpose of a continued draft is to replace soldiers that have been killed in action, not to replace people who are in safer positions.
@Screamsgutter in every major war including WW2 there are always members of the military who are supporting direct combat troops. Soldiers working on bases, soldiers staying state side, etc. Not everybody has infantry MOS.
Women can now serve in infantry and in some branches special OPs. If they can meet the same qualifications as the men then great. But let’s be real most women can NOT meet those physical standards. If they get draft they will most likely not be a real position of danger.
True, not everyone drafted was sent right into the maw of infantry. Unfortunately, however, most were. And hardly any of the men drafted were suited for combat upon their arrival, but that's what bootcamp was for. Yeah, I know most women currently in the military couldn't meet the original physical standards that men were/are required to meet even if they survived bootcamp, which is why the military stupidly lowered/changed the requirements for women only - so more could pass. Apparently passing this lowered standard qualifies them for infantry and similar roles, meanwhile men have to meet a different/higher standard to qualify for these same roles. That makes a lot of sense... sure.
@Screamsgutter I know the military has different standards for basic for women in all branches. But did they seriously lower the standards for women in direct combat related MOS’s? That weakens teams and puts more lives at risk if that’s true. How f*cking asinine.
shouldn’t be a difference if we’re pushing equality.
Fuck the draft. We should have civil service though
No special treatment for women
You say that like that's what I meant
No because that won't help. Except perhaps as snipers, women are not competent solders. Furthermore, there should be draft because a draft is proof that young men in the USA slaves.
Women can't handle it and will just get more people killed.
War isn't just fun and games, losers die.
Women should stay in medical, piloting and some support fields only.
Look at the women downvoting.
Do they really believe they can carry my wounded ass for hours, with all of our gear.
Or even operate a machine gun that is almost half their weight.
Etc etc.
I have been to the military. Women don't belong in the field, not enaugh strenght or aggression
Again I was looking for a solution, not a particular answer. I already said that and you have had to put words in my mouth multiple times to try to make sense.
I'd go for the opposite. Nobody should have to sign up for the draft unless they want to.
In times of need that is suicide
That's basically impossible.
The draft hasn't been used for decades and it's unlikely to be used ever again
And you know the draft will never be reinstated... how? Just because it hasn't been used in fifty years doesn't mean anything. All that means is that there hasn't been a war serious enough to warrant its reinstatement. Signing up because you want to is called enlisting. The draft will be reinstated only during a situation that's dire enough to warrant it and only if the current volunteer military is deemed insufficient. They could ask for more volunteers, but there's no certainty in that.
@Screamsgutter Im saying it shouldn't ever be used. If people refuse to fight senseless wars then there is no need.
Easier said than done, especially if the fighting occurs domestically. Despite the fact a lot of people think a domestic war on American soil is a longshot, it's something that can't be entirely ruled out.
@Screamsgutter of course, just my opinion on the matter.
No, but I also don't believe in full gender equality. I'd be happier if women could still stay at home and raise their children in peace. As for the draft, I don't think it's right to force ANYONE into a combat situation against their will.
Neither did the thousands of guys who died after being drafted in the last three wars.
I much prefer the model of equity/equality that says "if one doesn't have to, the other doesn't either" to the model where "if one is forced to do something, the other should be forced as well".
I don’t think anyone should have to register for the draft
Yes, what makes them unable to fight as well as men in war?
I would rather no one have to register for the draft
What do you propose the military does if we are invaded and we don't have enough volunteers to defend the country?
@jahaims Then that means the people aren't behind it enough to fight back. You can't force someone to potentially die cause you agree with the politics and they don't.
It's a what if scenario. So what if the invading country plans on killing all civilians and not let's them assimilate. Then it has nothing to do with politics. Everyone would have a better chance fighting in an organized group with government resources.
Do guys even have to register for the draft anymore?
Unfortunately yes. It's still a thing.
@FýrdracaDócincel I cannot remember if my kids ever did. If they did I don't think they told me about it.
Since 1918 and every day forward, thousands of men upon their eighteenth birthday have been registering. Originally it affected men from ages 18-45, but now only affects men from 18-25.
@Screamsgutter Yes, I just looked up Selective Service and you are right. I have to ask my son about it.
Believe it or not, I'm looking at my Selective Service/draft card as we speak.
@Screamsgutter I don;t even know where that thing is anymore.
No one should no matter their gender
Plus there is no draft
Have you ever heard of selective service registration?
That is a not a real draft. We do not have a real one since the Vietnam War
You’re right it’s registration so that there is a draft they have a list…
Only if they want to. It should be voluntary, not by force.
Men are forced to register
Then it should be voluntary for everyone. Forcing someone to go die to satisfy a politician's bloodthirst serves nobody.
yes, but actully no. they should have to regester but if drafted only allowed non-combat roles. only those that chose to become solders should have to fight and kill not those that were drafted.
The point of a continued draft is to replace the soldiers that were killed in action.
Maybe, but they should be excused if they are pregnant for have children. (Obviously}
That said, the draft hasn't been used since the Vietnam war. (Approximately 1972)
equality and equity are not quite the same in my book.
But yes , essentially if we’re being equal ,” what’s good for the goose is good for the gander”
Here's an idea, let's make nobody eligible for the draft!
I think it's a good idea, up to combat roles.
There are plenty of support positions they could fill.
I registered like everybody else. Honestly I could care less.
But enough to comment apparently lol
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Sure, but they should be the very last to go after all of the options for men have been exhausted if a draft is activated.
I don’t think anyone should have to register for the draft. We have an all volunteer force and have since Vietnam.
Absolutely. It will make prisoners of war fun again.
Bold words from someone with that user name …
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lol well in BDSM that is not what that means. Being a cuck means you get off on the humiliation of seeing your partner with someone else. If you enjoy causing physical and mental pain that makes you a sadist not cuck, at best a voyeur
Educate yourself more girl. You fly on a cloud. All cucks get pleasure from watching, than it is about who pushes who to be humiliated. I don't get pissed on, everything that happens is because i want it and allow it. I prevent what I don't like or want. You call that submissive? You think the women is in control? She is just doing what i want, when i want and how i want. But there is sub cucks too, those get pissed on...
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@Subarugirl also apart from that, the original comment misses the fact of males raped in conflict.
www.chathamhouse.org/.../ignoring-male-victims-sexual-violence-conflict-short-sighted-and-wrong
There has never been a shortage of people to rape during conflicts.
It’s just for a change…. Male rape was never really reported or considered a real offence.
www.icrc.org/.../irrc-877-sivakumaran.pdf
It was noted in Afghan that their army, warlords etc kept boys for ‘fun’.
“ Bosnian war in the 1990s almost 5,000 men held in detention camps outside Sarajevo were raped”
I think they probably should, as long as they meet the physical requirements. Some women just aren't built for war.
I guess some men aren't either, so idek tbh
@Random_Guy_Online you mean like those that have served on front lines in Afghan and Iraq?
Hell yes. I was friends with the lead attorney (Marc Angelucci) trying to get this passed before he was murdered for unrelated reasons.
Sorry about your friend. That's awful.
@Uannoyme It was awful.
I just think there shouldn't be a draft honestly.
What do you propose the military does if we are invaded and we don't have enough volunteers to defend the country?
@jahaims
The U. S. of all countries is not short of any volunteers.
In a situation like that, if the U. S. is worth protecting, people will step up without being drafted.
Also, in a situation like that, we're probably fucked anyways, the U. S has like the strongest/biggest military.
United arguably has the strongest but the third largest. China has nearly double the number of enlisted soldiers.
@jahaims
Oh well sure I didn't know but I think the rest of the points still stand.
You can't just assume that people are gonna volunteer, especially during times of war. Even during times of peace it's difficult to get volunteers to enlist.
@Screamsgutter
You can actually. We don't really draft people right now. If what you suggest is true, we would need to use the draft and we don't.
We don't draft right now because there isn't a situation currently going on in the world dire enough to warrant it. We may be involved in some stuff, but not at such a level. But that can easily change.
Plus with all the anti-patriotic/anti-American rhetoric going on in the country right now, where elementary school teachers are removing US flags from their classrooms 'cuz they're uncomfortable in their presence, where American flags are abundantly being flown in American towns are making various non-residents nervous/angry, and where forums are chock full of posters who 'won't fight for a country that doesn't care about them', my confidence in the volunteer method is pretty low. Support for socialist agendas has grown and aren't exactly quiet about it (on some university campuses, for instance, and even by some politicians). Then there's the country's systemic racism argument not doing us any favors.
@Screamsgutter but the fact that the United States is violated bodily and and magical autonomy isn’t an issue until it affect you..
Not following you here... unless you're saying that it's easy for me speak about it since I'm no longer eligible to be drafted. Well, when I was eligible I (as well as my brother) did experience the looming danger of a possible draft - 1991 Gulf War. I was twenty-one & physically fit. My brother was sixteen. Couldn't know this thing's possible severity or longevity, so we prepared best we could for the future. My father, two-tour Vietnam vet, wasn't glued to news channels because he had two daughters.
@Screamsgutter
We don't draft right now, and have one of the leading militaries.
Your logic suggests we should need to draft still, doesn't matter if we aren't in super ultra important situations, we have people who volunteer now for one reason or another,. That is evidence of people volunteering.
There's no logic to suggest as things stand right now that we wouldn't have volunteers in times of war. It is an assumption to think that people wouldn't volunteer and a draft would be needed. However, there is baseline reasoning to suggest people will volunteer for these positions given that people currently do.
I didn't say we needed it now. I said nothing has happened since the last draft ended that's been dire enough to reenact it. We do, however, have a system - the Selective Service System - that exists and continues to function in the manner it was meant to since its inception. It was put in place in the event the military doesn't receive the number of volunteers that it deems necessary to combat the situation. Take Ukraine. The country basically just drafted every man in the place from ages 18 to 60 to remove the possibility and danger that comes with a predicament where its male citizenship has under-volunteered.
Yes and they should shave their heads like the men.
Either that or just get rid of the draft all together.
If I pay taxes, I'd rather have it mostly spend on male soldiers
Either that or do away with the selective service altogether
@Subarugirl When will you learn that men are effectively expendable?
Well I don’t believe they are, if you do that’s your choice, but I don’t. It’s disappointing that you do.
There's nothing to "believe", this is an objective statement of fact.
No, that’s your personal opinion.
Considering the high work place fatalities, successful suicide rates, and no one seems to care argues otherwise.
Yes but there will never be another draft. The US military is huge.
Yes and I lean conservative but this is shit they need to back down. Chip Roy has one of the worst track records in congress.
Yes, that'd be equitable. But I don't support equity in that regard.
@Subarugirl I believe women should have to register for Selective Service in the spirit of gender equity.
Yes but actually no at the same time. If women want equality then they should get drafted but women don't make good soldiers so, no.
I think we should give infants fully automatic submachine guns fresh out the womb and send them into combat.
Baby Wars
No, I don’t think you should force mothers to be shot and killed in the line of duty.
Not every role in the military has to go to the front lines
You do realize that there are restrictions when people are drafted right? Barack in the 70 the only recruited single men, and then married men who didn’t have any children.
@subarugirl Yes, however, that can quickly be changed with the signing of executive order or a military policy change with no notice.
@ewright_1 That can also be changed easily.
Bur fathers should?
Wait hold on. So you're saying that mothers shouldn't be forced to be shot and killed in the line of duty but fathers should? Your argument is illogical.
@ewright_1 I’m not saying that’s what I believe that should happen I am saying that it did
I go further. If needed to have sex to save lives. As women can be drsfted now
DAMN STRAIT! You want to die like the men you had best be ready to work beside them!
Only if they can meet male standards, or else they're simply lesser soldiers
no, women should not even be in the millitary in the first place.
Of course. We should bring the draft back in America. Be less wars.
How so?
although I find women like tomb raider attractive, still women should be in fine work. like sex
When only male soldiers should sacrifice their life
May be, but I would rather not have the draft re-instituted at all!
Yep 100% otherwise where is the equality?
I think they should just get rid of it.
What do you propose the military does if we are invaded and we don't have enough volunteers to defend the country?
@jahaims
Times have changed, the military has changed, we fight wars differently now. We haven't needed it since the 70's and there has been wars and conflicts since.
We don't need a bunch of kids who don't even want to be there endangering the mission. And with this generation I can definitely see other's endangering their wingmen.
Leave it to the people who actually signed up, rather than bitter, angry, spiteful kids who were dragged.
That has nothing to do with my question. I am not talking about a proxy political war. I said what IF your country was invaded and the military didn't have enough volunteers.
@jahaims
"Leave it up to the people who actually signed up"
There is no "if there aren't enough volunteers" (whatever number that looks like to you).
Quality over quantity. Thats all there is.
We had to have a draft multiple times because we didn't have enough volunteers. It happens. History proves it.
And that did correlate with your question. You just didn't like my answer.
It sure did. I asked a what if question and you avoided it altogether.
@jahaims I already addressed that in my first response.
You don't understand what if is then.
People who aren't qualified for combat get different jobs... they are called grunts, they do janitorial work, cooking, maintenance, transportation ect…. Not everyone in the military face or even see combat
Desperate times call for desperate measures. In times of war the military has cut out half of the training time just to get bodies to the front.
@jahaims Again, lmao. Reread it.
I addressed your question.
Im guessing you wanted me to say something along the lines of favoring the draft with your "what if" scenario.
I said we'd make due. Its that simple. Apologies that you dont like my answer.
@jahaims Quality over quantity.
War is more than just bodies.
We dont fight wars the same ways we did in the 40's and 50's.
@Subarugirl I am well aware, lol.
You simply don't understand what a what if scenario is. I was looking for alternative solutions to a draft. Because making do is unrealistic. If you don't have what you need for any given scenario saying you will make do isn't a solution. That is just waiting for the consequences. If you are in a desert with no water and you say you will just make do that doesn't make the consequences go away.
@jahaims I'm sorry that I didn't give the answer that you wanted for your fake scenario, but "making do" is realistic. We do it all the time.
If you're already recruiting, offering incentives, bonuses and we still lack "numbers" you make it happen with the numbers you have.
We're low manned all the time. Don't have the proper equipment. But what do we do? We "make do" and make it happen regardless instead of crying about numbers.
Everything has consequences. If you are without water and no hydration then yes. Be smart, accept, and make do with what you currently have instead of crying about not currently having it.
People keep trying to equate a "good" military with just sheer numbers. No.
The military isn't for everyone.
Suicide rates are already high. We don't need any more dead bodies of people forced to join. Theyre no help, and it solves nothing.
Yes, if anything it'll be a great first step to getting rid of it altogether.
In the interest of fairness, yes.
I thought they got it passed in December; it may have been part of another bill?
Yes, If women want full gender equity then yes.
there's equal respect yes but there's biological equality and even exact religious equality altgough rights exist
Well if I was drafted I rather go to jail.
No, and since there is no draft it’s a moot point.
Men are still required to register for selective service so… it’s a valid point
@Subarugirl but there hasn’t been a draft in almost 50 years, so it really isn’t.
That’s besides the point
Right, it's beside the point because no one can know what the future will bring and the country can't be caught with its pants down, which is what abolishing the draft/Selective Service would basically do. I mean, it's only our country's last line of emergency defense.