"Asexuals" do not have an equivalent name for normal people but they are 1% to 2% of the USA population while transgendered people are 0.6% of the population?
I think the prevalence of identity politics and insisting on categorizing people by immutable characteristics is the exact opposite route we should be going in. We should be focusing on uniting ourselves against the oligarchs instead of letting ourselves be divided by petty social issues that ultimately mostly come from our imaginations.The real societal divide is the oligarchy and then everybody else.
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Why are normal people called "cis" to appease people with gender dysphoria when?
Gender dysphoria is just a pseudoscientific name used to describe a person who is mentally retarded enough to cling to stereotypes, and then from that, have an identity crisis (rather than a realization that they were wrong) because they themselves are proof the stereotype is wrong.
It's literally circular logic, bullshit to reinforce more bullshit.
But yes, I agree, people shouldn't be wasting time on pointless squabbles while also ignoring actual problems.
"cling to stereotypes, and then from that, have an identity crisis (rather than a realization that they were wrong) because they themselves are proof the stereotype is wrong"
It really does seem like they reduce being a woman/man to the stereotypes of average folks.
Why can't let's say a guy who acts and looks feminine just embrace it without having the mutilate their body? The same thing with tomboys. Why mutilate your body to reflect what you think you should look like just because you act a certain way?
For whatever insane reason, a small percentage of people are more scared of being made fun of in a particular cultural setting, than they are scared of losing their genitalia. I would say it's a genetic illness, a form of mental retardation.
All insane acts are the result of not thinking clearly. One thing I learned growing up is hating on idiots is a waste of time, they deserve pity rather than hate. But from me they will get avoidance and blocks, because I'm not a risk taker.
Hear, hear! It's the oligarchs who are behind all the divisiveness. Identity issues like BLM, CRT, gun control, gender issues, covid, immigration, and political partisanship are all part of one agenda - divide and conquer to enslave humanity through technocracy. It's all about the Great Reset/New World Order/One World Government/UN Agenda 21/30/50.
People need to refuse to comply. Resist totalitarianism before it's too late.
OK, the first problem with your statement is the adjective "normal." There is a broad swath of what constitutes "normal" behavior and choices on this planet.
Just because you're a minority on a less-traveled path doesn't mean you aren't normal. You're simply not part of the majority.
Trans people likely have an inborn wire crossing related to hormone exposure in utero that leads to gender dysphoria. But there is a disturbing trend to box very young children with no life experience, who haven't undergone puberty, are given puberty BLOCKER drugs, which no one knows the safety of at this juncture. For 5, 10 and 11 year olds to decide they are not their birth biological assignments.
I wanted to be a little boy when I was 4 years old because it seemed to me little boys had far more fun, wore better clothes, could get dirtier and had more freedom than little girls. I was not, nor have I ever been transgender. I saw a recent article about a trans youth, girl to boy, who wants to play high school football with boys because, well there are no high school football girl teams, period, so there's that. The youth has some skills in that area and wants to utilize them. Maybe she's pretty big and strong for a female. And in high school, pre pubescent males lag behind girls in muscular and height development.
As a little girl, 4, her dad decided "that's my son," because of the girl's choice of play and toys. I played with my brother's race cars and builder sets. Did that make me a male? Ii shot marbles with the neighborhood kids; mostly boys. Was I trans?
And at that time of my life, with NO life experience, per se, how could I make a decision for the rest of my entire life to be one sex or the other? What IS the rush? Why do all the doors have to closed right away. Does no one offer the option for a child to change their mind?
There have been some studies of children who declared they were trans, that by age 16 they'd given up this idea all on their own. Maybe comfort with their young adult bodies, roles settled in. Maybe finding their own path to choose what they liked to do.
It IS highly unlikely that the trans boy will be able to continue as a football player WITH young men after high school because a biological female, even taking male hormones, will more than likely be smaller and not as strong as a biological male. It might be a recipe for longterm disappointment. True there are small men. But they still have the bone strength and musculature of biological males.
There are women who are genetically predispositioned to have higher than average testosterone levels, as evidenced by an Olympic runner who was challenged as to whether she was a "she." It's also likely there are men with the same issues.
All of this goes to show we exist along a spectrum of maleness and femaleness. Some are a bit more one way than another. For a few, this being a 3 instead of a 7 is painful. But adolescence is a time of painful change. And it takes YEARS to get through. Adult brain function isn't cemented until 21 to 25 years.
Though trans changes seem to HELP gender confused people, 40% of such people are not satisfied with hormonal, lifestyle or surgical alterations. Most teens decide they are NOT trans when they pass age 16.
I don't think ANY puberty blocking therapy should be instituted. Children need to get through puberty, settle into their new bodies and lives , get support throughout this time and get NO surgical or hormonal alterations until they have had five years of psychiatric therapy past age 18, live and work as the gender they hope to be after, say, year 2 of that therapy going well.
Immature, impulsive young brains go through all kinds of changes and choices. Why parents indulge children in this manner is stupefying. It's part of a culture of permissiveness and indulgence that can lead to emotional disaster.
Definition of "normal": "the usual, average, or typical state or condition."
Trans people are definitely not normal. They are severely mentally ill. To be fair, I am autistic, bisexual and whatnot so I am certainly not normal either.
"I don't think ANY puberty blocking therapy should be instituted. Children need to get through puberty, settle into their new bodies and lives , get support throughout this time and get NO surgical or hormonal alterations until they have had five years of psychiatric therapy past age 18, live and work as the gender they hope to be after, say, year 2 of that therapy going well.
Immature, impulsive young brains go through all kinds of changes and choices. Why parents indulge children in this manner is stupefying. It's part of a culture of permissiveness and indulgence that can lead to emotional disaster."
I completely agree and wish people like my ex-girlfriend could have heard that without calling whoever said that transphobic.
I have to disagree with you. They ARE normal. Just as YOU are normal. You simply aren't part of the general MAJORITY. It's normal to be a LOT of things. Human brains wire themselves in all manner of ways. Transgenderism is another way, as bisexuality is another way that 's not in the majority.
They are NOT evidence of mental illness UNLESS the people professing said predilections cannot live happily, as in, they can't work and live in the world and be successful. Being DIFFERENT does bring burdens with it: Autism, bisexuality and transgenderism come with issues simply because so many people are biased against people with these characteristics.
People who eat themselves up to 700 pounds are suffering from mental illness as they can't function in the world at that size: they are handicapped physically. It's some sort of obsessive-compulsive disorder and likely has depressive and anxiety issues that the person tries to dispel by overeating to calm themselves, just as an alcoholic or drug addict uses their drug of choice... which ALSO prevents them from living and working normally.
THOSE are mental/psychological addictions and handicaps. Someone's sexuality doesn't prevent them from having a job or friends or exercising or taking vacations or having and raising children. Drug and alcohol addictions and mental illness do.
You're right about the societal divide, but can we afford to ignore the divides that they are using to separate and distract?
Can't everyone get behind the idea of a constitutional amendment to remove the influence of big money in politics? Maybe even to stop politicians from enriching themselves while working for the people?
Corporations are not people with speech rights. Campaign finance laws worked well (or well enough) for decades. The Civil Rights Acts helped people to vote, and gutting them has led to exactly the kind of abuses they were designed to stop.
Just four SCOTUS justices have been confirmed with less than 60% of the Senate. They just decreed that Alabama's gerrymandering is acceptable, with even Chief Justice John Roberts (whose court largely neutered the VRA) dissenting.
"We have also come to his hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God’s children. "
Hey man, if I was rich I would donate to Wolf Pac even though The Young Turks is pretty heavily involved with them last I checked.
Getting money out of politics would be beautiful, but how long until it would happen again? How do we keep a society going without constantly fighting corruption at every turn?
TYT was instrumental in setting it up, I think, but it's a single issue PAC, and I think you'll agree that it's a worthwhile and non-partisan ideal. AFAICS, TYT aren't making money out of it.
Isn't it something real that people from all across the political spectrum can get behind, to unite against the oligarchs? Congress and SCOTUS aren't going to make it happen.
I am for it but I am curious on how you personally think we can prevent corruption from happening immediately afterwards. Corruption is like water, it will shape itself to fit through any cracks and humanity cannot make a system without cracks.
For full disclosure, I do not know what to do myself except install a benevolent dictator and pray we picked the right person.
That's a terrible idea. Elections are essential to get rid of bad leaders without bloodshed. That's why dictators get rid of them (or their opposition) as soon as possible.
A constitutional amendment is very hard to work around. Declaring that SCOTUS was simply wrong when it said corporations have free speech protections would be a good start. Also that congress absolutely has the right to legislate how campaigns may be funded.
Corporations are significantly different from Unions, by the way, since the former speak with the voice of a handful of unelected executive officers, while the latter are more democratic in nature.
New language invented to confuse the issue and add legitimacy to it. As if “cis” and “binary” and whatever other cute terms there are even mean anything.
In fact I have my own terms. I prefer sexually degenerate or pervert for transgender and then normal for non transgender.
Creating all these new definitions is an attempt to legitimize all of this. It is also an attempt to make minorities out of sexual perverts. There is no gay gene. There is no transgender gene. It’s a choice. It’s a kink that’s taken control of the person to where they only prefer that to anything else most of the time. These people are not born that way. No one deserves special rights and privileges for being a degenerate.
I refuse to use these terms because using them adds legitimacy to them as if they are actually a thing. That’s the whole idea behind all this. Categorizing trans and non trans people with special definitions…. to make these things sound legit by differentiating between them as if they are naturally occurring differences like skin color. It’s no different than calling adults who still believe in the tooth fairy “believers” and those who don’t “non believers”. The reality is anyone who believes in the tooth fairy as an adult is a fool. They’re not a “believer.” They’re a just a fool, just like people who think you can be born a woman trapped in a man’s body and the way to correct that is by wearing girls clothes, and giving yourself a girls name and thinking inverting your penis makes you a girls. I think all the female athletes who have to compete against men without penises would agree.
Conservatives…stop using these terms. It only legitimizes degeneracy.
Because sociopaths have made it standard practice to force everyone to have a label, so that no one is exempt from insane demands to pander to and pretend to legitimize the most politically useful yet socially hazardous severe mental illnesses in existence.
So you're a dude who's got no issue with the chromosomes God and nature chose to give you? They need to invent some insulting label for you, to put you on par with their own self-degrading identity exercises, in a desperate yet futile attempt to justify their perversions.
It's erasing the concept of let's say being a woman as well. Title nine? Screw that lol, bye bye all the work you feminists did for that law!
Motherhood? Nah, you're just a birthing person or a uterus possessing person.
It's dehumanizing and playing into this severe mental illness is legitimizing it in a way that does not help it, but instead propagates it to people who would have just considered themselves tomboys and whatnot before.
My ex-girlfriend even told me that you do not need to have gender dysphoria to transition and that gender dysphoria is not linked to transgenderism. Bitch, the whole point of transitioning is to treat gender dysphoria because doctors are at such a loss they have nothing else to do lol.
Kids groomed and blackmailed transition, because they want to please their superiors who expect it. Except, these superiors commit child sex abuse by doing so, and still expect everyone to clap for them!
I've met masochists on DeviantArt that I would sooner trust with children than these demon-possessed attention seekers!
Worse: Those drugs they pump the kids with? High risk of death. But a dead child is just "another bump in the road to progress." Their egos engaging in child sacrifice!
Thousands of children have died from this poison. Yet, MSM sweeps it all under the rug. And labels anyone wanting to bring justice for these victims of child sacrifice a "bigot"!
We need to bring back the bronze bull. Thousands of these creeps belong in it!
Don't they mostly just pump estrogen or testosterone into them? What are the drugs that kill them? Knowing the specific names of those drugs could help me a lot in future arguments.
In 1991 Volkmar Sigusch a German sexologist, physician, and sociologist published the first paper with the use of the word "zissexual" which translated to cissexual in English. A way to explain transsexualism , but it was later changed to transgender hence cisgender in the mid 2000's.
This Volkmar guy also came up/defended pedosexuality and wrote papers saying adults attracted to kids was a sexuality. Which tells you everything you need to know about him and the whole usage of "cis" now.
That actually really does tell me all I need to know, holy shit! And now we are seeing these pedophile fucks trying co-opt that LGBT bs and be accepted.
You know how you can find acceptance in society as a pedophile? Don't ever fucking talk about your sexual preferences, ever, don't ever go near kids and just live a normal life.. away from kids.
Volkmar sounds like a quack. Sociology isn't even a real science. Chaos theory prevents measuring and predicting societal outcomes.
And while he's technically correct about it being a type of sexuality (since all sexual preferences are genetic, dangerous or not), zoophilia is also a sexuality, and while I don't care if someone watches furry hentai, don't fucking touch my cat's crotch.
As far as acceptance goes, I don't think acceptance of dangerous fetishes should even be a goal, I think acceptance that these people are suffering from a genetic disorder makes sense, but accepting it's practice is a firm nope.
Because none of this is based in science and it bastardizes the language in order to offuscate reality. As asexual means that you don't have genetalia; not that you lack sexual desire. Gender dysphoria is a disorder of the mind and not the body. Which is why those who suffer with it are committing suicide at the same rate, 40%, before they transition and after they transition. This is like giving someone with cancer Ritalin or someone with ADHD chemotherapy. Just like you don't treat the mind for an ailment of the body; you don't treat the body for an ailment of the mind. I am not sure about cis, as it is such an archaic word; but didn't it used to be something used in referencing articles?
Trans means on the other side. Cis means on this side (aka same side). (Latin origin.) Science uses the terms to talk about arrangement of atoms in some molecules. It was applied to sexual identity to neans identifying the same as you actually are (e. g., a girl identifying as a girl), and trans for people who identifying as the opposite if what they actually are.
There is a difference between judging based on hate and just simply identifying by their gender. So trying to make a quote that clearly was aimed nothing alike the comparison is often what people do and I find it dumb.
Unless you gonna prove Cis has cause such a big bias compared to what King was speaking of. And also irony of oligarchy then uses... King. When this is black people who were trying to fight the larger majority of white people who were again the majority repressing the smaller population. And only be the voices of minorities and fighting back could racial change come. I think your trying to get to a good point but honestly your points never come across that well and I don't know if you even are or just a far right winger yourself but anyway no doubt people who will agree with this line of argument will just be far right wingers. Even though I swear you said at some point your left or central though I maybe mistake at this point so many people on here.
It's because you fuckers are so crazy anyone to the right of Mao is considered far/alt right 🤣
My points are pretty easy to understand. I don't want to be called "cis" any more than I want to be called some alternate name to represent people who are not asexual. Enough with all these fucking labels to appease a super small minority of mentally ill fuckers. Yeah, we get it, you are trans or asexual. That doesn't mean you need to give me some kind of weird label to represent that I am normal lol.
Some would say normal is implies wrongness is not been so. Let's take your dumb example of using race. If one was to say I don't want to be referred to white because I am normal and coloured people are the smaller group so why should appeal to them? Sounds smart right? No didn't think so. At the end of the day unless this word is been used against you to hate you and put you in some state that can be compared to racism or homophobia or anything else this argument is pretty dumb.
I included Martin Luther King because I don't think people should separate themselves based on immutable characteristics lol.
Comparing white and black to mentally healthy and not mentally healthy is actually really racist against black people and not at all what I did. Nice try though..
People aren't separating people though? Just simply stating what gender someone is? Or do you want everyone just to go by the same gender... confusion.
I want to be referred to as my name, not as an amalgam of different labels.
I am not "cis", I am normal. I am not going to give trans people special treatment when asexuals are completely ignored in that regard. There is a sinister gender of separating us into categories and labels.
By your logic a Girl should not be called a girl. A boy should not be called a boy. That's a very weird ass logic where we will just end up in a state of genderless people with only names to go by, which will run into major problems with names that can be used for both.
"Cis" is just a passive aggressive way to get people to accept transgenderism. If transracialism comes up you will see similar tactics.
To be clear, transsexual people have a right to exist and do what they want with their bodies. But they do not have a right to force the rest of us to humor their delusions.
I wonder what you do when people call you he? Do you flip out saying that's not the right just say my name because honestly that makes you as bad as what you think your against here. It's funny how you compare sociopaths to gender. Clearly shows your views loud and clear that. Do you also compare gay's to psychopaths?
What they share though? They are all mental illnesses.
What do they not have in common that I am bringing up? Trans people get to label normal people as a special label while asexuals and sociopaths do not.
More like you just throw comparisons out there, that are by in no way related thinking their smart points. It's honestly a problem people make. I've done it too in the past I try hard not to cause it makes one do this exact thing create a daft argument. But honestly at this point you've shown your way's of been the stereotypical person who hates and thinks such things are mental illnesses that are wrong. Rather than the open minded and person who learns more into psychology who can tell you there nothing alike.
This is embarrassing how hurt people get over this topic on both sides of this cis/trans argument get.
Ok so they use it because those are actual legit latin words meaning "the same side of" and "the other side of". It's less for you than it is for them. When you call someone a transman/transwoman, you put yourself in a situation to be Cis. It literally just means you are the same gender as your born sex. They are the opposite of it, hence trans. You are the same, hence Cis.
When they say you are Cis, they are just saying you are not trans and vice versa. Calm yourselves, it isn't meant for it to be an insult to anyone. Those terms are used in lots of things including biology and chemistry for example.
Ordinary people do not use "cis" in any context, it means nothing to them.
It is only used by the College/University educated, academics in those Colleges/Universities and The Intersectional/Identitarian Woke Mob just so they are using the same dogma as the rest of those in academia.
Wind them up and do not use the term at all, I know from experience it drives them nuts when you do that, visited my niece at Teacher Training, I drove the lecturers and certain members of the student body round the bend, because I refused to use the terms they wanted me to use, I'm of an age that will not take BS from Lecturers and Student's who do not have any Real Life experiences that are comparable with mine.
What's wrong with being called cis? The entire problem is that by calling cis people normal, it's suggesting that non cis people aren't normal, which is just mean.
Secondly, people coming out as their true genders doesn't separate people. They just want to be themselves and live life. I've normally seen the opposite and it's cis people who intentionally separate everyone and discriminate non cis people. All they want is to live without being called mentally ill or sinners or any vulgar slurs.
It's easy to live your life as a normal person if you aren't too FUGLY and/or socially retarded to blend in as the gender you claim to be. A lot of these transgender people are just weird and they're upset when people don't kiss their azz for their weirdness. They even claim that if you aren't attracted to them you have a phobia. Meanwhile if a man isn't attracted to a FUGLY woman that's normal.
I think it is a passive aggressive way to get us to buy into these fringe delusions that trans women are just the same as regular women and they have no meaningful distinction.
Think about it, could a woman transitioning into a man ever really understand what it's like to be one of us? They don't have the same brain, they don't have the same dna, they don't have the same fat distribution or bone density..
you're so cruel. I wish you could find other things to bitch about. You say you're my friend but I'm too much of an abnormal freak to even listen to. You keep me around as a tranny who you can call abnormal to feel better about yourself.
If you thought this question was cruel then you are a thin-skinned buffoon who can't handle any sort of ideological opposition.
I am just talking about "cis" and some logical inconsistencies, I'm not talking about trying to take away your rights or what the fuck ever you think I am.
For the same reason that allistics are referred to "neurotypical", when that same word is used to refer to those who lack schizophrenia, depression, or even sociopathy (in psycho-behavioral terms, a sociopath and an autist are about as far apart as humans can get from each other)- it's not about accuracy or clarity, it's about who shouts the loudest.
I am autistic myself but have never heard of "allistics" before.
How do you think sociopaths and autistic people are radically different? I have had people compare autistic people to sociopaths saying they have less sympathy.
Well one of my ex-girlfriends is with a dude who will not fuck her because he says he is asexual but she has banging tits and can even use her kegel muscles to squeeze, I would know trust me.
Why won't this guy fuck her? I wouldn't know because the stupid asshole won't even talk to me, fuckin' weirdo.
And yeah, just watch a sjw trans person fall apart when you bring up the transracial argument.
Because the US has been taken over by incredibly stupid people. It will start changing soon regular people are getting tired of these people in our face constantly
I do agree the labels are getting out of hand. We are all people. guessing the labeling was made to make people feel comfortable being part of a group, but I agree has the tendency to be divisive
I don’t think so. I’m a cis gender male Caucasian but a binary bengal tiger. Now that I’ve put several labels on myself and categorized myself by demonstrating how different and unique I am, I demand to be treated exactly like everyone else. I want to be a part of the human race in its totality and to be treated the same as everyone else even though I just worked really hard at defining myself differently from everyone else on the planet and put a label on myself.
We should all demonstrate unity by putting 78 different labels on ourselves. Let’s all label and define ourselves by silly terms and categorize ourselves as unique and special. Then let’s all hold hands and come together in unity after we’re done defining how different and special we are from everyone else in the human race.
I watched the video from start to finish and I don't find anything he said objectionable. Seems like he just wants to help poor people and help people that look like him not be discriminated against.
I'm pretty sure he would not want to discriminate against whites or whoever else either. He just wants people to be judged by the content of their character.
So you heard him say the Civil rights bill of 1964. . . and you have no objection to it? You heard him say the Voting Rights Bill of 1965. . . and you have no objection to that?
Jux. . . do you even know what is in those bills?
Do you know that the Voting Rights act of 1965 required states with the history disenfranchisement to have any changes to their electoral process certified by the Federal government?
The problem is that you think hyperbole is your friend. I know King in a way you have never been taught. Because my parents were fighting for their rights long before I was born.
Haha. Dude, you already know what I do for a living. I have my own tech firm. You do trolling.
And it is hilarious how you are not even embarrassed over your lack of knowledge about MLK's life. Why pretend that you can contort his words and viewpoints to supporting your nonsense? I asked it before and I will ask it again. . . what is the point to being disingenuous?
King was basically classified as a communist for his views. And before he was murdered, the American press labeled him the most hated man in the United States.
I don't really care what he was classified as and that he might have views I don't necessarily agree with. His quote is relevant and well used in my post.
I will quote Lovecraft and his work and that guy was a fucking racist. I really don't see your point or why you working at a tech firm matters. I don't care if you are a fucking astronaut, that doesn't change your humanity at all.
Judging people by socioeconomic status is a sign that the person is shallow and has no depth.
And I don't care that you don't care. You are a troll. Who spends all day lying on the internet. Here you are claiming to support someone you would have hated if he were alive. And the only reason why you have any respect for him is because he was murdered.
"You can't name two single political positions of King you can agree with. In fact, I doubt you even know where you disagree with him. Because you talk out of your ass. And it only takes a quick google search to find interviews and speeches that he actually gave. But in your religion, folks don't read.
Like "A Letter from a Birmingham Jail" is a literary masterpiece and should be required reading for every single student.
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councillor or the Ku Klux Klanner but the white moderate who is more devoted to order than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says, "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically feels that he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time; and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season.
And it is important that I state what I do for a living. Because I live in the real world.
You live in the fantasy of the net. And I will remind you, anytime you want to prove me wrong, the door is open.
Until then, you are just another nameless, faceless, lying troll.
Exactly right. It’s a made up word to legitimatize transgenderism by attempting to make categories to define who the special transgender people are and who oppressive and evil non trans people are. By creating words and placing people into categories they hope to demonstrate how there is this new special class to add to the special victim pantheon along blacks and Muslims and women. The word cis is an attempt to make it seem as if some people really are born like that…. when In fact it’s a choice and no one is born like that. I don’t hear anyone who proposes these theories demanding DNA evidence of the gay and transgender gene but they’re not interested in truth but rather are interested in making everyone capitulate with them.
When discussing labels like lgbtq it’s apt to label what’s not lgbtq. Like you and I are also gentiles I imagine. But tht only comes up on certain circumstances too.
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