I know our generation lacks in some areas, but I think we will make a lot of good changes. We are already more accepting than the past generations, and we are open to new ideas. I think we will also make great parents, because a lot of us have seeing shi we don’t wish upon our children. Not only we will accept them for who they are, but we will validate their opinions.
There is more, but that is the low down.
What about you? What do you think about Gen Z? ^-^
I’m an older gen z. I find us older ones are better. Quieter at least. Younger ones are very superficial and full of themselves. Just my opinion of course
Even though whole theme around "Generations" is mostly an American topic, we have a similar thing going on here. I'm also what you guys consider a "early Gen z" and I know it sound bias, but older gen Z are the better ones and not obnoxious or fragile as the later Gen Z.
I see Gen Z as the eventuality of Millennials: a bunch of coddled, self-centered narcissists (I bet you can't tell which demographic I'm referring to) who can't wait to check TikTok/Instagram/[insert social media here] for their next dose of social media validation and likes. While their parents were digital trendsetters because they grew up with technology, Gen has lived a very different story and are more like trend followers.
The majority of this cohort aren't old enough to remember a time before the iPhone, "apps", or the Internet; it's just always been there. Because of this, a lot of Gen Z really has no concept of "self"; having grown up in a world of digital, "always-on" connectedness, they've never really had the opportunity to define themselves and instead opted to allow the online world to define them. This means that Gen Z (and subsequently, Gen Alpha) has largely externalized their locus of control; the "positive side?" of this is that many Gen Z are "born influencers", having grown up with social media, and see it as a natural extension of themselves. The repercussion of this upbringing means they largely externalize their ability to process self-value. A person who does this often themselves embroidered in a battle for identity (something which Gen Alpha suffers from even more) and has a hard time seeing themselves as a fully self-actualized individual, instead being a mere actor for the amusement of others.
After all, they live in a world where social validation is a highly-valued commodity and the speed of information transmission means they have to be "on" at any given moment, to put on a performance for the whole world, or risk social ostracism and bullying for failure to comply. It should come as no surprise, then, that Gen Z is plagued with anxiety and depression, and their humor is commiserate with this bleak worldview.
I sometimes have lots of concerns about Gen-Z's relationships with people. There are a lot of epic distractions for Gen-Z: social media, video games that require so much investment, etc. And I see a rise of materialism and hedonism, like some "alpha male" image that seems more about trying to score with as many women as possible than building and protecting a family and taking on the greatest of responsibilities.
I do like the open-mindedness when I encounter it. It's better than my parents. But there's also sometimes a close-mindedness there, if I generalize, like this cancel culture.
Most of all I hope Gen-Z will find their way in terms of understanding the values of family, communities, and the deepest of friendships. That might be harder in this technological age than my Gen-X upbringing.
Cheers! Well, you're our future as I see it. My generation is not without its cons. I see this age now as the greatest age of exploration, although my boomer parents might have seen us the same way. At the end of my journey so far, I reflect back on my life and think we're meant to be social creatures belonging to communities and finding the greatest richness in life from it, and I think that's a bigger challenge for Gen-Z than I ever faced before. Somehow the internet seems to connect us on such a broad level but maybe not the deepest.
One of the things in my case is that I got to witness the internet becoming a household thing in my time. It was around university years in my case along with cell phones and the like. Social media was still some years away.
And I was exposed to so many new ideas through the internet. At first, it's like the most exciting thing just being able to talk to someone across the world. But I think it helped me somehow when it comes to things like values and ideals that I might have even lived without that sort of broad range of communication, isolated in places with just the people around me.
It helped me to form some values and ideals and even a sense of romance. They're all sort of narrow-minded in a sense, mind you, but they guide my life now. They're what gives me a sense of drive, meaning, purpose.
And I might be biased meeting so many jaded youths in the Gen-Z category on this site, but I think maybe they were exposed sometimes to too many conflicting ideas growing up that they've turned to nihilism... like "nothing matters". And I empathize because I can easily see myself becoming like that if I saw too many conflicts of ideas and values at too young of an age.
... and I chose the word "empathize" there very carefully, not "sympathize", because I've gotten enough hints from my peculiar life to get a sense of what these young people feel. I think a Gen-Z life is a harder life than the one I lived, and I could go to the old fogie ways of gloating about how hard we had it, all the things we didn't have that young people have, and I'm tempted sometimes, but I really think it's harder to find our place in the world as Gen-Z than Gen-X.
They will grow out of the nothing matters stage, when they experience the world. It is usually the younger ones that think that way. I remember thinking my opinions and thoughts don’t matter, when I was growing up. Our parents make us feel that way.
Now, I am out of the house, and I have to make my own decisions. Our opinions do matter, and what we think matters. 💜
Lol oh joy. You know so much right? Except you don’t. Give it 10 years… you’ll know 100x more and everything you knew will change. Then 10 more years again 110x more but just as lost.
It’s a hard life trying to understand everything. I’ve come to understand that nobody cares about us except our friends and family. What if you don’t have friends and family? What if you realize most people are out for themselves and don’t care about hurting you along the way? This is true by the way.
Intelligence is a burden. Understanding is a curse. If and when the time comes we have to fight to survive again then intelligence will be a gift but for now. It’s better to be blissfully ignorant. Life is like walking a tight rope. If your not super intelligent it’s just difficult but if your smart enough then a light brightens the water below the rope filled with piranhas and death.
@VanillaSalt I might be the opposite in that the older I grow, the less I think I know anything. It might be my alcohol thing. It makes me real dumb, and I know it. What if I care about you though in the limited way I can over the internet? [bro-hug, if you'll accept]
Na remember back as a kid when adults were so different from you as a kid and they got to do anything and knew everything. Becoming one I realized them fuckers were just winging it and we were little more then Guinea pigs lol. But you got a point on the different degrees of caring. Bro-hugs basically a Facebook happy birthday lol. Compared to say the death of a child it’s incomparable. So it would be better to say intimacy? Personal connection. Real investment in another human being where by their suffering costs you something? Seems that most people lack this these days and it’s dangerous.
@VanillaSalt Well, neckbeard antisocial twat who rejects my attempts to connect, how miserable of life do you have that you have to go into my shit rambling with your stupid shit when all you are doing is broadcasting how miserable you are? You are your own problem as I see it, fuck face.
So to be clear I was joking with you over making me laugh and didn’t insult you once but whatever any desire I had to talk with you disappeared the moment you started acting like that.
@VanillaSalt Well, I wanted to connect to you on a deep level and I thought you mistook me for a doormat. On this site, all my Japanese attempts to be most polite get mistaken for a doormat, and I've learned the hard way to be vicious when my attempts fail. I was hurt when you laughed off my attempts to offer an internet bro-hug. I had to reach into a vulnerable place without the normal armor that I wear to do that and I so I thought you were making fun of me and conflating my exposure of vulnerability to weakness.
@VanillaSalt And calling me "fucker" seems like an insult to me. Maybe I mistook some friendly jesting for fighting words. My bad. English is not my first language.
@VanillaSalt Cheers! Well, I took it as like a competition to escalate in some way. I regret what I said and hope you'll forgive me for it. I have difficulty understanding tone on the internet. In-person, I am better! If we were in person I will get the first round of beers if you're down. And I hardly think the things I said.
@VanillaSalt Sometimes on here I get the impression that many users are very lacking a happy social life and judge so harshly of people that way. And that's one of my biggest gripes about it and sometimes it's overwhelming to me and I get very angry and lash out. I don't know anything about you and I lumped you into a category to which you might not belong at all. I hope you'll forgive me for it. Cheers!
I’m 22 and therefore am one of the older Zoomers and I think we are the worst generation by far. We’ve embraced cultural degeneracy, which I’d mostly blame Tik Tok and wokeism for.
We view having children as immoral and being forever single as empowering. Zoomers have the highest rate of suicide out of any generation but many of us would probably see that as a positive thing because Greta Thunberg and Bill Gates say they are too many people and we have to save the planet.
true i hate tiktok and wokeism so much. but yeah from what i've seen teenagers and kids (especially the younger ones) are becoming more and more stupid because their parents let their ipad raise them and they end up watching too much tiktok and just collapsing as a generation.
You don’t need validation from other generations to make yourself feel better. Gen Z is fine. Just like the rest of the generations. Trust me the older generations were not much better. They talk a big game about accountability, hard work, and respect. When they couldn’t accept people that didn’t look like them, spent most of there time protesting the protesters of civil rights, and completely disrespected, blacks, Asians, Naives, hell anyone that wasn’t like them.. so yeah, the older generation isn’t anything to look at and go, “huh, that was a good generation..” they were trash as much as rhe they say everyone else was.
Lol if i am the one you consider negative that's not negative persay but some common traits found.
I have been friends with some 11 to 16 yr olds mostly they start by being offensive to you and curse you bc they think that you won't take them seriously .
They act tough from outside which may be seen as rude.
But just they want is someone they could understand and trust even if they seem to be bratty they just want your presense but not the constant talk.
Gen Z future is completely fucked. The politicians royally screwed you over with debt. They snatched and grabbed all the money from the “Build Back Better” plan and stimulus checks. All those trillions of dollars…you’ll be paying for it. Those politicians will be long dead. As for Gen Z as a generation? Because of kids having phones in their hands as babies, and education being shut down because of covid, there will be a huge amount of mental illness and crime that will affect you. Depression is going to skyrocket. A lot of people can’t go without phones or internet if their lives depended on it.
Agree to disagree. You may be stupid, I may be stupid, but not all people of Gen-Z are stupid. Some are genuinely good people who are knowledgeable and kind-hearted. It’s the loud ones who ruin everything.
An intelligent person may not be wise, because being knowledgeable is different from being wise. As the old adage goes: “ Intelligence is realizing dragons are dangerous creatures. Wisdom is not to kick a sleeping one awake.”
I was in an online discussion. The topic was Hagel. Some 20 year old was making a point about Communist China as if he thought he actually knew about China. Someone mentioned the name Mao. The kid had no clue as to who Mao was yet he thought he was well schooled in Chinese history.
My point in telling this is people don't know what they don't know. This the need to question things and not accept all that is told to you.
@billyballs the same can be applied to people of other ages. Just because someone is older, doesn’t mean that they know everything. A wise person doesn’t dismiss a younger one’s opinion just because the person is younger.
I can’t keep track of the generations anymore… I’ll just say this. The biggest issues ull face are society, family, marriage, and connection.
Too many think their supposed to be happy. Na happiness is something you find temporarily. Then you look to be happy again. People give up the moment their not happy. Kids these days have no spine.
You hit the nail on the head. Far too many people have been taught to actually be hedonistic. Happiness is as temporary as buying an ice-cream or sitting by the beach or the initial feeling of buying a new item but society should actually be focused on is contentment (not complacency but contentment). Contentment teaches one gratitude (which is so scarce judging by the entitlement that many across the generations seem to have in my opinion). Everything lately has become so temporary because many people as of late have pleasure seekers. That explains the constant comparisons, how “replaceable “ people have become and just a general lack of humanity.
Very accurate. I don’t understand from a woman’s perspective what does it mean to have a family? What do you risk? What do you sacrifice? What do you expect? As a man looking at family I sacrifice myself for the family. Defense… working 80 hrs a week… responsibility for all failure as the leader… my bachelor life… what do I risk? Everything. Falling in love and losing my family over a whim… alimony… child support… being more devoted to family then most I lose everything if I fail. So I expect a great deal in return for my risk. Let’s be frank… these skanks today just couldn’t measure up. Don’t even know the meaning of faithfulness… sacrifice… grace… respect… dignity… every considered relationship I have to consider these things and that’s a big put off for looking for family. It pushes me away from people and causes me to not want to get involved to help or further our society…
Well like men, women are not a monolith so we will definitely bring definitely things to relationships. Where I’m from, men and women respect each other, where as when I arrived her, men and women are entitled, treat each other horribly yet expect successful relationships and never take accountability for themselves and instead, resort to careless mudslinging. I can only speak for myself and I think I’d risk a lot in a relationship because my fiancé is worth the risk (bearing a child, rearing and looking after the household for him to come home to and ensure that I’m actually making it a home for him and my future children). The west unfortunately has themselves to blame for the decay that a huge chunk of their society has become. Way too much blame shifting between everyone and very little accountability.
Yeah. Well it’s a spiral. One does bad so the other don’t see a need to improve for the other group… women are trash so men respond by being trash which makes women more trashy… as we further divide we don’t like each other and only see the trashy shock content everyone’s posting… kinda sad.
People knew them they forgot. It’s the people in charge doing this for sure. Intentional or not I don't know but feminism cancel culture and racism are causing it all.
I'm not a fan of how the younger (post 1964) generations are labelled. The older ones (boomers, silent generation, lost generation, etc...) were divided by major historic events that would make the experience of an early boomer more relatable to a late boomer 10 years younger than them than a late silent generationer 5 years older than them. Meanwhile, generation X, Y, Z are sequential labels given to 15 year time increments. in my opinion, the '07-'08 financial crash and the '20-'21 pandemic should define a generation that came of age during and between them (those born ~1987-2004).
Zoomers: Inferior to Gen X, but far, FAR superior to Millennials in every possible way. The worst thing about Zoomers is TikTok. The best thing about Millennials are... Literally nothing! I'm glad they're about to be 40 and are still single, unwed, and don't have kids.
@Gorge95 I don't use special pronouns, believe in Safe Spaces, or accept terms like "genderfluid, non-binary," etc. I don't accept transpeople as the gender they make-believe to be (but I'll try to show respect to them if they can be respectful back), and I don't accept being heterosexual yet sleeping with "bisexual" women (dykes) while still claiming to be heterosexual and not a degenerate. I don't smoke weed, nor accept it, and I don't have a porn addiction (I don't even like porn; why do "straight" dudes want to see other dudes bang each other?)
Obviously it's not all Millennials, and I don't fit into that stereotype, but there is literally not a redeeming quality in what people think of as the stereotypical Millennial.
But then again I don’t think generation classification is ever really accurate. I see people as people and there are a ton of horrendous people regardless of generation I guess
Yup many people pretend millennials weren't woke. If anything Gen Z is less woke and is considered to be the most conservative since WW2. I'm happy that people only a few years younger than me openly mock gender pronouns in class. That would NEVER happen with people my age and older.
In my experiences generation Z are the woke one. You should had see it in my university when millennials were around there wasn’t that much woke propaganda as it is now
Wokeness really began in 2011 after insane people (who we now refer to as social justice warriors) co-opted Occupy Wall Street, destroying the movement (intentionally; this was Soros' plan). They rose to power in 2013 with Black Lives Matter after the Trayvon Martin killing. And they reached their full society-destroying potential in 2015, after taking over universities. The oldest Zoomers today would've been 13 when wokeness began, and are only 24-25 right now. Wokeness DEFINITELY came from Millennials; specifically people currently in their early 30s. I'm probably the very LAST generation that grew up without woke idiots around me in high school.
People label Gen X, Gen Z, Baby Boomers or whatever. There are good people and bad people from all generations. The generalization of labeling the entire generation as bad because of some is ridiculous. In the end, we are all human and make mistakes. The entire back in my day spiel needs to stop. Times change.
Don't really have one. Pushing myself to look at people as individuals instead part of a given group. Disconnecting myself from major social media sights has help me do that a lot and has helped me looked at my generation as well as gen z in as less of a joke.
How are you proud to call yourself one of them? I'm considered a gen z cos of my age but I don't wanna associate with any of them, most of the gen z are soft as shxt... Sensitive little snowflake babies.. ridiculous
I'm 24 but I'm mentally a lot more mature than those gen z snowflakes.. I'm about 35 mentally
If they didn't mute me for any single comment with the slightest non offensive cuss... And delete my comment jus cos one thing they slightly disagree with I wouldn't have such a problem, the censorship and cancel culture is ridiculous
Way smarter and more put together than my stupid ridiculous sell out Gen X peers. All this socialism is beautiful hommie. Remember, Boomers still control 80% of the US wealth. Gen X thinks that if they act like the boomers they'll get it all. Suckers. Gen Z is the way and hope. Good luck y'all. Sorry we Xers turned out to be so fkn lame.
All generations younger than generation X are full of self absorbed and unintelligent people who add little to no value to America or the human race in general. This can change for the better, but doesn’t appear it will. Ultimately the problem is a lack of discipline, a disdain for sacrifice and hard work to achieve and the continual lowering of standards in every area of life.
It was an interpersonal family issue. Complicated. Basically I wanted to handle it one way…the easier way because that relative was a very difficult person to deal with.
She suggested a different more difficult way but way that I viewed as more correct at that time.
many of them were raised by parents who came from single parent households so they never learned the things their parents never learned. Thus lower coping skills and not knowing how to do what seems like easy things. Schools taught them to :accept: destructive ideals and lifestyles in the name of wokeness.
I still think of myself as young so I don't think there is much difference between us millenials and you genZ. In my philosophy there is only one difference and that is life and death. As long as we are alive, no matter, the age, we are the saem
@Rangers gen z may be somewhat redeemable, but the generation after gen z will certainly be a lot worse lol. i don't even want to think of the generation after.
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