Why do the vaxxed keep bringing up conspiracy theorists?

[cth2188]

Why do they deflect and they love bringing up CDC data which is strange.. I don’t follow the CDC and any information pertaining to the gov. All my information comes from research and information that I researched before the jabs came out..

Beyond that I have my beliefs on a few things and it has nothing to do with conspiracy theorists.. I don’t follow science and I notice these vaxxers get real defensive about the jabs - they start the arguments when you tell them where your stance is with the jabs..

Truth be told I don’t associate with anyone vaccinated.. not on a friendship level or conversation level because I know it’s going to be clashing of beliefs … I don’t want to hear about the vaccine , but why can’t vaxxers respect people choices or beliefs I don't know..

There are 3 things I don’t talk about in general and it’s politics , religion, and the jabs..

I rather be friends with like minded people and date someone like minded like myself

Updates

1 y

Earlier today, my therapist is was real defense about the jabs.. I simply told her I home school my kids due to restrictions at schools with these jabs and kids attending school.. vaxxed people are not nice people in general

[HighValue]

They are the type to think that if it is raining and they use their umbrella, if you don't use your umbrella too, they will get wet. No logic.
The only people I know that got seriously sick were vaccinated. My aunt was hospitalized 3 times in 3 consecutive months after getting the vaccine. She ended up with fluid around her heart and in her lungs and had to be on an oxygen machine, even at home.
One guy I knew got the Pfizer vaccine (first shot) and died from it 10 days later.
When I posted about it, Facebook censored it, labeled it as misinformation and threatened to delete my account if I continued to post it.

[cth2188]

Wow everyone I know vaxxed from church dead.. had a stroke or heart attack

[cth2188]

The only ones I know sick and dying are the vaxxed

[lofii]

Vaxxers can't think for themselves. They operate like a hive. They operate like communists. They will shame you till you fall in line. They virtue signal a lot but deep down they're scum.

Best not to conversate with them more than you have to

[cth2188]

Agreed I won’t date them either or have sex makes me think of that movie The Cell

[cth2188]

I try to avoid these people

[cth2188]

Scary psychological shyt I notice how defenseless they get talking about these jabs

[NaultD]

Pick up a history book. Most of history has pandemics as an unstoppable force. 1 of the 4 horsemen is pestilence that Harold's the apocalypse. Then we just figured out how germs and our immune system works and we can fight diseases on an infective level.

People for centuries was scared of small pox, measles, and polio all but vanished since the first vaccines in the 1900s. The only reason these diseases are around anymore is the fact not everyone who can get vaccinated is getting vaccinated. To vanquish these pestilence it takes a 98% vacation rate.

Vaccines are extremely effective. So much so we forgot the paralyzing effects of polio that trapped people in the iron lung, the horrid face scars of the small pox, the deafness and brain damage of measles after a single generation being introduced but Vaccines are prevention measures.

To honor the sacrifices of the people who have been damned by these acts of nature, we need to remember the pain and suffering and learn to avoid such agony. Vaccines are the answer to this agony. It really is that simple.

It's a logical understanding of how germs and our immune system works. People have also done more crude treatments for as long as the disease called variolation. George Washington used it during the revolutionary war. Ordering solders to get cuts on the arm and spread small pox victims puss and scabs to fight American independence.

[cth2188]

I need proof Covid -19 exist and how the vaccine is working against a virus.. I trust my own natural immune system.. what I know all you vaccinated people trust science you have to follow it.. I don’t follow science and trust my own immune system

[cth2188]

You have too keep following science and not expect everyone to do so because you think it’s moral right

[NaultD]

I've given you more evidence on infectious diseases and how vaccines work then you know how the internet works and you have no problem with our communication right now even if it's 10x more complicated. The whole point of prevention is avoiding these situations, so why wait untill your own families dead to give a fuck?

If you had any knowledge of the immune system you'd know most of the damage comes from the immune system. So measles creates a high fever that damages ear drum and also brain damage from the natural human immune system. What vaccines does is introduces the immune system to a disease that creates a game plan to efficiently destroy the disease before harming the person.

Covid is a lung disease and lungs are filled with air. So any infection on the lungs needs to be filled with liquid for the natural immunity to investigate an infection but that is effectively drowning a person faster then the disease. Vaccines in this situation is a quick plan in fighting the disease well before flooding the lungs is needed.

[cth2188]

I don’t care to know what scientific research you done.. did I ask for it? No.. I also don’t follow science x medical doctors, and the government to care.. I’m a free thinker

[cth2188]

Until I see proof of these things Covid -19, vaccines, and data to back up the spread what your saying is useless and void.

[cth2188]

I can care less seriously

[cth2188]

Idgaf I want you brainwashed sheep who are vaccinated to trust science and stay away from me and my family

[XeperiSet218]

All Diseases are Man Made. All Solutions are Man Made. In actual real Nature there are no diseases that man did not influence or have a hand in. The word disease when linguistically split into half is “dis” “ease” The truth is not something that can be confirmed to, coerced into, manipulated into or anything else. The truth is the Truth and it stands up on its own feet upright naked before the world. The emperor has no clothes just like the truth has no identity or ideology. You cannot make a lie into truth, you cannot inoculate someone with the truth only the living spirit can we be one with. An acorn cannot be created by a scientist yet somehow an oak tree grows. Science has yet to be able to make anything like the acorn from scratch. God created these seeds and no one else will ever be able to make this claim.

[cth2188]

Boom every last one of them !

[normalice]

The problem is when people claim to have "done their own research" it suggests they have relied on information that is easy to digest (i. e. entertaining) as opposed to information that is accurate. These are not necissarily mutually exclusive but those who spend real effort making their information easy to digest without a clear motive for why they would spend their own time on it, are not doing so because they are trying to give people an impartial understanding of the situation, but because they have a highly partial agenda to push.

[cth2188]

Vaxxed people being up these arguments in defense because they won’t to admit their wrong.. I can care less what vaxxers have to say exclusively people who trust the government , science , and the medical field.. I don’t follow either.. I don’t even see a regular doctor as I see a homeopathic doctor.. so when you vaxxers are rambling on showing me documents from the cdc website it tells me where your at mentally

[normalice]

I mean, if believing only you and those in your cult are the only ones with the "real truth" is how you get your self worth, I guess don't let me stop you.

[cth2188]

I done my research I’m not obligated to share that information publicly.. 9/10 I don’t even discuss Covid -19 in general conversations. You vaxxers still bring it up 2 years later just like you bully people to take the vaxx. At some point in time, vaxxers need to mind their business and trust their jabs.. everyone is entitled to their beliefs and choices.. I’m pretty confident in my choice I’m not getting it and it’s all that matter

[cth2188]

You guys are cultist and narcissistics where you constantly bully people in a choice you legitimately didn’t research throughly yourself your only going by information your a) doctor told b) what your friends and or family members told you c) what you saw on tv and the website.. I don’t follow the government and don’t need a partner who does

[cth2188]

The difference between vaxxers and anti vaxxers

[normalice]

As I sad, don't let me stop you.

[cth2188]

At this point I don’t care what happens to the vaxxed friends , family , and all

[cth2188]

I’m just confused why vaxxed people keep bringing up the jabs and their beliefs when someone voices their beliefs and stance.. my stance and belief is just as valid - I don’t owe anyone an explanation

[cth2188]

I’m in groups for the unvaccinated

[normalice]

It could be your enthusiasm for the topic. Most people who claim not to care don't then immediately type up long responses to people who basically say 'that's weird but believe what you want, I guess.' It suggests an insecurity as though you're well aware that the criticisms are valid but it's all you have so you need to be aggressive about shutting them down.

[cth2188]

Clearly you vaxxers don’t and can’t seem to get that in your brick heads.. trust your jabs and stfu about it.. I’m pretty solid and we’ll see how things play out over the next few years starting next year

[normalice]

No need to be rude. But if we don't all turn into zombies or whatever I don't want you to start questioning your self worth.

[cth2188]

Ahh don’t be rude after vaxxers wished death and spoke ill on the unvaccinated- I have zero Fs to give. For my sanity it was due the best to cut off the vaxxed..

[cth2188]

So glad I did.. you guys deal with whatever with these jabs and leave the rest of us alone

[normalice]

At no point did I wish death. Indeed I only encouraged you to believe what makes you feel valuable. The fact that you took this to mean that I was wishing death on you is the sort of leap conspiracy theorists are famous for. And you're not a conspiracy theorist, are you?

[cth2188]

Then what I’m saying doesn’t apply.. I’m not a conspiracy theorists I’m a person who uses common sense..

[cth2188]

You vaxxers need to get on with this bs not everyone puts their faith in the gov.. I know I don’t / I don’t follow science , medicine, or the government

[normalice]

Yes, you've made that abundantly clear.

[cth2188]

So why should I care about your scientific data or research

[normalice]

If you're not going to use it i suppose you certianly don't need to. And it's absolutely possible to live a whole life where others take care of your reconcilliations with reality for you (right up until the point that they don't anymore). But if you don't have that luxury the entire point behind data/research is to figure out the patterns reality exhibits, which thus helps anyone willing to put in the time to stay a little bit ahead of said patterns. The problem is said patterns are usually incredibly dull and the raw boredom is thus the obstacle that prevents the overwhelming majority of those who don't care from caring. Intelligence is really just a measure of how well someone can handle that boredom. But the people who don't want you to know the boring data because they want you to believe their exciting fake data, instead (because it points you in the direction they want you to push in), also try to give you fake data that suggest intelligence is arrogance (instead of just boredom).

[cth2188]

Yes you vaxxers pls date each other and I have to worry about my partner not being a)
vaxxed and b) never slept with anyone vaxxed

[cth2188]

I don’t need cross contamination

[normalice]

I guess that was an on topic response, sure.

[cth2188]

Yes pls date each other

[normalice]

Oh, don't worry about that.

[cth2188]

Yes anti vaxxers do a bit..

[normalice]

Doesn't surprise me

[cth2188]

Yep 🇺🇸

[Echosoul]

They aren't much different from other conspiracy theorists, just worse. Flat Earth types are nuts but probably mostly harmless.

- They think the (nearly) entire scientific community is lying to them, because

- They don't understand how immune systems work or what vaccines are. "I trust my immune system" shows a lack of basic understanding.

- They think cases are fake or exaggerated even others of the same attitude die from Covid. It's the "it won't happen to me".

- They reject modern scientific advances and knowledge

- They are incapable or unwilling to distinguish between reliable and unreliable data sources thus easily deceived. Website with "exposed" in the name makes claims and they fall for it hook line and sinker

- They ignore how they pose a danger to others and a toll on the health services and nurses/doctors

[cth2188]

As a former health care worker of 11 years I don’t engage with vaxxers.. I wish they would keep their ideologies to themselves because I can care less about their scientific beliefs.. I don’t bring up my personal beliefs to these people and try to avoid vaxxers at all cost

[Echosoul]

"vaxxers" as in people who vaccinate and follow medical science? Like, wasn't healthcare your occupation?

[cth2188]

I quit my medical job and never issued vaccines.. I was a Medical Assistant

[cth2188]

A difference.. I am no longer in the medical field and do holistic practices

[Echosoul]

So you rely on pseudoscience 😒. What a shocker

[cth2188]

I rely on herbalism / botanical medicines / natural remedies.. I definitely don’t need a partner who follows science complete turn off and wouldn’t date anyone vaccinated

[Echosoul]

So to clarify you reject decades of medical advances and research in favour of taking random herbs that won't do anything and might be deadly.

[Echosoul]

I wouldn't go anywhere near you either. Life expectancy, not long.

[cth2188]

I don’t want transmission of spiked proteins , hiv , hep C , and herpes passed to me.. so yes I wouldn’t trust dating anyone vaxxed exclusively if fauci is involved

[cth2188]

I don’t date or deal with vaxxers in relationships sad , but true with all this information coming out - I don’t know what the rest of us are going to do

[cth2188]

You vaxxers aren’t living long your the only ones dying.. pretty soon it’ll be evident whose dying.. I’m hearing you guys only have 5 years max

[Echosoul]

www.mirror.co.uk/.../anti-vax-champion-dies-covid-25677610

www.thesun.co.uk/.../

www.express.co.uk/.../anti-vaxxer-died-covid-mocking-jab-family-appeal-same-mistake-david-parker

www.standard.co.uk/.../...tal-vaccine-b949524.html

metro.co.uk/.../

www.independent.co.uk/.../...y-death-b1890600.html

www.standard.co.uk/.../...los-angeles-b947491.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57958358

www.theguardian.com/.../anti-vaxxer-mother-and-daughter-die-from-covid-in-northern-ireland-hospital

Seems you're dying off in less than 5 years. Took me like 2 minutes to find these.

[cth2188]

And you vaxxed love sending me censored Google government bot websites.. anti vaxxers aren’t dying it’s you vaxxers to ADE and this flu season we’re going to see a lot more deaths.. being you guys have no immune system

[cth2188]

I find it so ironic that you guys said we would die , but it’s you guys carrying illnesses and sickness.. you called us lab rats , but you are the labs rats.. I can’t be around any of you because you vaxxers make me and my family sick

[cth2188]

So over the next few years we will see this

[Echosoul]

You can't get HIV, Hep C etc from covid vaccine needles as they're sterile. If you're getting these from a needle then it's probably not a vaccine (rec. drugs)

[cth2188]

Wished harm on me and my family when you guys are in doctors offices and hospitals so yes keep you spiked proteins and illnesses

[cth2188]

Kids have Hep C and folks are coming out saying they have HIV from the jabs

[cth2188]

It’s coming right from the jabs death all in the jabs a rise in HIV / AIDS cases and cancers

[Echosoul]

Standard etc are newspapers. Standard started in 1847 (wiki). Seems you'll only care when you're the one who's severely ill from covid.

[cth2188]

Idc about vaxxers these are the only ones getting sick and ill not the anti vaxxed

[cth2188]

Or unvaxxed

[cth2188]

There is no proof of Covid -19 it’s been ruled as snake venom what vaxxers were given

[cth2188]

I’m so glad I’m not jabbed or dating anyone jabbed

[Echosoul]

"It's been ruled as snake venom" by who? What have snakes to do with anything? 🐍 How did you get into the medical field exactly?

[cth2188]

Stew Peters documentary exposed that watch the waters you vaxxers are stupid

[cth2188]

You don’t research and trust anything the government tells you

[cth2188]

Gonna sit back and watch this all we can do ( unvaxxed )

[Echosoul]

I'd be happy for you to stay away.

[cth2188]

No I’d be happy if you vaxxers stay away your full of poison

[cth2188]

Yes hopefully when this truth comes out maybe the vaxxed is off grid I don't know

[Echosoul]

Antivaxxers keep claiming the vaccinated will be dying, while themselves dying, and keep pushing the timeline forward. It's been like 2 years and I'm still here.

[cth2188]

You guys are dying I come across videos all the time either vaxx injury or death

[cth2188]

information is being censored

[cth2188]

There is no helping you guys I just avoid saying anything

[cth2188]

No time line has been moved forward it’s always been 3-5 years

[Echosoul]

Maybe ring a bell to let the vaccinated know to stay away also?

www.mylondon.news/.../how-londoners-leprosy-were-sent-22905549

[cth2188]

I am not letting vaxxed know anything.. the vaxxed are on their own with this..

[cth2188]

The unvaxxed is aware of what’s going on why we are in the position we’re in

[cth2188]

Away from the vaxxed and preparing

[Echosoul]

Uh-huh. You're exactly like other conspiracy theorists. Vaccinated people won't miss you

[cth2188]

You’ll be dead sadly unless you took a placebo , but how would you know - how can you miss me or us? No I’m not a conspiracy theorists I am a sane person who doesn’t trust the gov bud

[cth2188]

You guys better pray for a miracle or something

[Echosoul]

You don't trust the entirely (nearly) global scientific community. Herbal stuff is at best a placebo at worst poisonous. It hasn't undergone testing and trials to ensure safety and effectiveness. Antivaxxers are dying in scores and never learn.

[cth2188]

I’m a herbalist and have no health issues.. you vaxxers better wake up bud / real quick

[cth2188]

Anti vaxxers aren’t dying trust me

[Echosoul]

I just listed a number of cases. Why would I trust you? I have herbs in my cupboard for cooking, they aren't effective against Covid.

"Trust me" why would I do that? You're claiming to know a lot about a virus you don't have any knowledge about whatsoever. You're no more an expert than asking the barber.

[cth2188]

Idc about you trusting me - I don’t engage with vaxxed people / I don’t talk about Covid with you people - I stick with my kind

[cth2188]

I can care less what you vaxxers believe in.. I find it’s best to stick with like minded people

[cth2188]

You already made up your mind trusting science so you have to deal with science and the doctors