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There's really no reason to get angry. And if you feel that number is justified then why get upset? It doesn't make sense.
Why? Because like it or not many, many, people calculate a lot of a woman’s overall “worth” based on a few factors. High on the list of those factors is her sexual promiscuity and beauty. This may be wrong and it may not be fair but it is an undeniable part of most societies.
If a woman has chosen to be promiscuous in her life it’s her free choice and nobody wants to be held in a lesser regard because of their choices. Everybody will rationalize away anything they have done to be able to believe that they are still a valued & worthy person. Since the regard for her sexual history is almost always a factor in this worth a woman with a active past will often wish to downplay or conceal this. (No woman who was a virgin or had only one partner is offended by being asked this question.) The more partners she had the more personal and intrusive the question would probably be taken as.
Once a woman is past a certain point of sexual history she may simply not even care and there is no longer any need to conceal her history and kind of removes the stigma.
I think there is a strong correlation behind many things that are offensive to ask of a woman, such as her body count, age, weight, or to grade her on beauty since these are all factors which to some extent grade a woman’s “worth”. The further these factors are away from the ideal point they more offensive or inappropriate they are regarded.
Then again, that’s only my theory.
Is a woman's (or man's) b. c. anyone's business? If I thought a gal too randy or heard too many stories about her, I wouldn't date her.
Well, I suppose that’s open to opinion and debate. Some people may feel entering a committed relationship or marriage with somebody means full-disclosure of their past and life journey. Others may be less inclined to expect such a thing. It comes down to individual beliefs and values.
Because it’s a stupid question to ask someone randomly , especially to someone you are interested in , it be a different story if you were already dating them and trying to pursue a relationship with them , but to be asked a question like that , out of the blue to someone, that you barely know? is kind of disrespectful , because you are putting that person on the spot when really it’s none of your business on who they slept with prior to you. When a random girl I meet asks me how many girls’ I slept with? I just say I am a virgin , I never experienced sex before , but if I did? I forget what it feels like, so she must of not been that good in bed , So can you fix that for me? Only if If I am attracted to her , if not, I just laugh and walk away or change the subject, it’s honestly gotten me laid a few times , because some girls ‘ like that mysterious quick wit sense of humor. It turns her on that she doesn’t really know me but she wants to get to know me. So you are best not to ask that question to anyone you barely know , because it’s really none of your business, and most people take it the wrong way. Most people lie about how many people they slept with period so what really is the point of asking that question to someone? , if you assume someone slept around a bunch of times. and that bothers you? Then you are best to not approach them or show any interest in them just move on. When I see a beautiful girl that I am interested in? I am not thinking about how many dicks were inside her , I am thinking about having my dick inside her , that’s what condoms are for , I I feel unsure about a girl that I like , I wear condoms , even though I hate condoms , I wear them until I I really get to know her more. It’s always better to be safe than sorry.
Because she don't wanna let you know what her body count is? I guess it's just the hoes that won't actually tell you or they'd just straight out lie. I know cases who has undergone virgin surgery to show their new rich bfs that they're virgin when their body count is more than 50. Basically they're just pick me girls who can do anything to get a rich boyfriend. The others who may be into giving sex freely aka hookup, one night etc may struggle with low or no self respect (self esteem) issues wouldn't want you to obviously know their body counts which must be in double digits or worse, triple digits, so that you wouldn't drop her. I mean who wants to be with a person who has slept with half of the guys in their hometown? And the same applies for the guys too, its time we start to call out man hoes for what they're.
Maybe its none of your business? It's like if I came up to you and asked you why you are such a jackass. Why would you be upset with that? Nobody is asking you to be a jackass...
So you're dating someone and you feel who you've slept with is none of thier business. Interesting. Also try to keep it civil thanks.
yes, my apologies for the language. Yes, it would not be anyone's business with whom i have slept in the past. The past is the past.
So if he's spent time in prison, was arrested for being a sex offender. Etc. You wouldn't have a problem with that?
Because that is also the past.
Just like you women we have our rules in a relationship, and it is our business whatever we want to be our business. And in a relationship that is everything.
@DarkLegacy. You have a right to be worried about "body count" and women have a right to think you are a creep.
@DarkLegacy. Simping. ROFL. What an immature-assed word, straight from the on-line manosphere.
Stop being a misogynist.
When it comes to selecting our life partner, the woman who is gonna represent us and the woman who is gonna be the mother of our child, then it for dang sure is our business. That's part of us doing our due diligence and research on someone before marriage, which is precisely what ANYBODY should be doing beforehand.
@Lliam Right because women don't do the exact same thing with us either right? Newsflash it is like a job interview when dating. You don't just date some random person or the first person you see. You have to vet this person, and the fact that you're making those excuses right now tells me that you have been told the same lies and misconceptions about men who have actual standards. And no sexual purity is not the only thing I care about, but it is one of the more important things. And it's not up to my date what I decide is important to me or not, and it's not up to you either. Sorry, but I have just as much to a right of dating standards as my date does, and if you've got a problem with that, well then tough. If having standards for her to live up to, just like she does with me, means I'm insecure, entitled, awkward, or possessive, then that's not a problem with me. That's a problem with you.
@juliaanita
So you wouldn't care if a guy had committed multiple violent crimes in the past because that's in the past?
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Because they don’t think that it is anyone else’s business. Just like it’s not their business how many people you’ve slept around with.
Don’t you love how men’s preferences according to women are seen as a weakness? That some how you’re insecure. You have small dick energy or any number of things a lot of women come up an insane men for what we want. But you can’t say things to her like she’s got stretched out pussy energy or something like that because that’s just wrong. You can’t call her insecure for wanting a man who’s taller or stronger. You can’t call her insecure for wanting a man who makes a certain amount of money. Men need to stop putting up w this bs. This is why a lot of women lack accountability because whenever they’re called out for their actions they gaslight men by putting the blame on him rather than owning up to it. No one forced you to sleep w all these men. Deep down they know that a lot of men don’t care for women like that. So the ones who won’t tell you are ashamed, they know more than likely they’ve disqualified theirselves from a potential relationship. Many of them say it’s none of your business, it’s her past. But if you asked a number of women would they be in a relationship w a man who used to sleep w men many of them would say no. Even though that’s his past. But a lot of times you can’t win because feelings trump all logic a majority of the time.
m Who in real life actually asks that, yeah social media everyone is all for it. Move to real world and people don’t ask bollox like that. Who really cares what it is, as long as a persons history does not effect the relationship, does it even matter. Then you have the fact no one agrees on actual number of previous partners that is too many, acceptable or okay. Never asked this and never will, for those that do ask, must be a bugger being single all the time straight afterwards lol
I wouldn't. If I guy bad vibe from her I would just end it.
Yes but a bad vibe has nothing really to do with previous history, it’s mainly going to be she a racist, homophobic, aggressive, crazy, personal issues, very few of those are down to a person having had say 10 previous partners.
Agreed. But this is where personal experience comes into play. You don't always have to touch a stove to determine it's hot and it'll burn you.
u Many people - especially those who lean to the left politically - want to live their lives without regard to any societal norms AND they don’t want to face consequences for their choices. Asking someone their body count strongly suggests that a judgment will follow upon the revelation of the number.
But shouldn't somebody who may be your future hold thier partner to some sort of standard? And this goes for BOTH genders. So isn't it a relevant question? So when you think about it there's no reason to get angry. No one likes being judged, man or woman. But the reality being judged is part of the process.
You are trying to use logic and rationale to understand an emotional response. That doesn't work.
At the end of the day we live our lives by logic not emotion. Live your life by emotion and see how well that works for you. This is why so many women have so many problems.
Brother, you are preaching to the choir. My comments here are not a description of the way I think things ought to be, but just a description of the way things actually are.
The Bible condemns men and women as fornicators. Whores and whoremongors. Nobody gets a pass.
I'm waiting till marriage, so that's the standard I have for any woman I'd Date seriously. Nobody HAS to do anything it's all a choice, but there's consequences before God and man.
Taking the good book out of it, statistically like 80 or 90% of people don't wait, there's also this stigma attached to women for liking sex automatically making then slots, no God put that drive in then like anyone so that is a misconception, liking sex, is not a sin. Your ability to pair bond diminishes male or female. If I where a woman I'd feel the same way about a man with a high body count, id feel like one of 100 hoes he's been with. people have made sex a dirty thing, they've perverted something God made good.
Because everyone is in sexual competition, and we use strategies to tear eachother down in order to benefit ourselves in the mating heirarchy.
So we call women sluts, to bring them down to our level. Women call a man a fuckboy to do the same.
It's nothing but biology expressing itself in our every day lives. We can rise above it.
But if you rise above it, you cease to care about body count. You see all the competition as silly BS.
But at the same time, humans are animals and we are competing sexually. It's probably never going away.
The ones that get upset are the ones that don't want to take responsibility for their life decisions. That means they are no more mentally mature than a child and should always be avoided for any relationship. It shows their lack of self control, and lack of morals.
u We aren't getting upset, it's just none of your business. It's the kind of question that weak willed men would ask so they don't feel inferior.
thanks :)
Just like you women we have our rules in a relationship, and it is our business whatever we want to be our business. And in a relationship that is everything.
So you're dating some and the past does not matter?
Let's not name call darlegacy please.
Their past doesn't matter to me. If they want to share, fine. I won't stop them, but I just simply don't care. It's not going to affect whether I like them or not. The only thing I do is std testing before I get with someone.
@DarkLegacy
You can have your rules, but if you need to resort to those ones, then I stand by what I said in my initial post.
You aren't getting upset but you're calling them weak willed men.🤔
Nope, not upset in the slightest. Just calling it what it is.
Who are you trying to convince here? Me or you.
Right? It's like they want the freedom to be sluts but are also embarrassed about being sluts.
What these women are often too stupid, or too stubborn to understand, statistically the more sex partners a woman has, the less likely she will be to have a successful marriage. The moment she gets above 5 the chances of successful marriage falls below 20%.
And people wonder why men value purity.
And before some bitch comments about how sexist this is, I feel the same about men who sleep around, so stfu.
Because they are disappointed that they ever entertained the though of dating someone so immature, insecure, sexually inhibited, rude and creepy.
1. Because we might get scared to get judged by whatever number we give you (from 0 to 10).
2. Would you feel comfortable if a woman asked you what's your size or if you're circumcised without the fear of getting judged?
3. None of your business
There are two things in your post I wanna comment on.
1. Uh yeah it is our business definitely because if we're talking about a woman who we are thinking of committing to, sharing our last name with, having her represent us, be our life partner, and especially be the mother to my child, then it for dang sure is our business. No guy wants to give all of that to a woman who has been on passed around for MANY reasons.
2. The comparison you made to our size and your body count isn't accurate at all. Guys are born with the size we have and can't do anything about it. And sometimes guys don't choose to get circumcized, someone else does it for us. But you are in full and total control over how many people you willingly open your legs for. Now a r@pe incident is not included, for that's a different situation. I'm talking about guys you WILLINGLY had sex with.
@SheSeesSeashells I know they can lie, and most likely they will. That's why you don't just rely on their word. You gotta look for more clues as well.
@SheSeesSeashells why do poker players ask other card players questions? They don't really expect them to answer honestly. But HOW they respond will typically tip you off whether they're lying or not. Which is another telling thing about her.
If we are size wise incompatible then its better not to waste time of either side.
Guys don't care about body count per se but its a indicator about her personality.
Then again the women with a higher body count are more likely to lie about it so...
by the way just out of curiosity since you are posting anonymously; What's your body count?
I would get triggered if someone asked me that only because it's one of those chronically online topics. If I want to tell someone my body count I will but randomly being asked is just soo weird
I agree. This question ASSUMES that it came up organically. Like maybe you've dated a week and you've already talked about say, 3 guys you've had sex with. I would assume most guys WOULDN'T ask this question unless they felt compelled to.
I mean it's like I said to another person on this question. Say he said he served a stint in prison. Would you feel compelled to ask "what for".
Sure it makes sense. They get mad because they believed the lies other women told them. And upon being asked and realizing that it actually matters they realized they are completely fucked both metaphorically and literally out of a serious relationship
Holy cow this question is toxic and so are are the men commenting on it. The only thing you have the right too know about someone else's sexual history is if they have a sti or not, any man who sees a woman's sexuality as a threat or intimating because they can't match their partners is weak and saying you have the right to know because she might be you potential partner is simply a front
Well a woman who sleeps with a lot of partners dramatically increases her odd of contracting an STD.
I wouldn’t be upset , I’ll answer the question but be prepared to answer my personal questions too, aka how much money do you make? You don’t like that question? Yeah didn’t think so.
You wouldn't be upset. But you would try to make him mad? Are you sure you're not angry. Because somehow you don't sound very sincere.😆
Then I’d look at your age and say yikes. You’ll be 66 and fat when I’m that age
@Blacksnake285 great, would never go for you anyway so wouldn’t give a shit about what you think and also I am 9 years younger than the age I put here.
Because they know they'll be judged if they have a promiscuous past.
I would not get serious with a woman who if she was not open and honest about her past.
Well but that's the thing. If there's nothing to be ashamed of (and I'm not saying there is) then why the need to hide it? If he judges you he judges you. So what! If he's judging you unreservedly then she's not losing anything by telling him. Right? And again if she's not ashamed then why hide it?
As long as a woman's, err,"bodycount" defines her a tramp rather than a stud as it does for a man, some women will bristle at being asked about their number of bed partners, which, again, is nobody's business except perhaps their husband's or boyfriend's.
I don’t. If he wants to leave, that’s his problem. Men get upset too when we ask them about their income.
You ask men about income?
Why can’t u just charge by the hour if u care about a man’s income so much?
Truthfully it’s nobody’s business other than a potential life partner (for health reasons primarily and also just bc they should be honest with one another in general).
Yes, and you don't determine potential life partners without ask8ng questions and understanding who that person is.
I'm totally fine with a woman REFUSING to answer this question. But a non answer IS an answer as well.
This is all I'm saying. "Why get angry about it"? There are some questions guys don't like answering. But that's part of the process of getting to know someone and determining if they are a match.
there is no reason to ask. If she is clean, what difference it makes? Shouldn't you care more if her feelings are genuine?
That's exactly the point. Why would a guy want a relationship who sleeps with guys she has no love for? And if a woman slept with say a 100 guys how could she possibly claimed to have loved everyone of them? And if she claims that, how good is her word when she tells this guy she loves him.
Do women even think about this part? You think it's about the sex and it's really not. But decent women do NOT sleep with men they do not love (keyword DECENT women). And before you ask do I hold the same standard for men? Absolutely! You're not a decent man if you sleep with a woman you do not love.
so you feel insecure about her feelings and you think number of her sexual partners can ensure her genuine feelings for you?
so if most guys don't need to feel anything anything to the woman they sleep with, except physical attraction, does it mean they are not able to love?
Firstly it would tell about her personality IF she was being honest.
Paradox is that the ones with a higher body count are also more likely to lie about it.
Secondly whom a guy is in a relationship with affects his reputation.
Well if she is 9-10 people will just say that he is thinking with his dick.
Feminism is to blame, they are turning women into snowflakes and some men also. Women think they are allowed to get away with whatever these days and men are supposed to accept it and not challenge it.
No, most women I talk to feel like they make mistakes and are not perfect. So why say we must accept it?
@BarryLiverstone you make a good point Barry. So if they feel some of them were mistakes why not just say "yeah I've slept with a few guys and some of them were mistakes". If they don't feel they were mistakes then why get angry at the question.
So what I’m about to tell the asker is it’s about how you frame the question. If you ask her on date #1 what’s her body count then obv she’s on the defensive
@BarryLiverstone White knight simp right here
Dude, can you just drop all the lingo and black/red/rainbow pill talk and just be real. Slut shaming isn’t cool. People are individuals. If a guy messes up he is just as accountable as a girl
@BarryLiverstone I see it says you single on your profile. I wonder why
You are always welcome to actually ask me. That would seem reasonable rather than coming up with judgements on a group level.
We get upset because it’s non of anybody’s business
Why do you wanna know how many men I slept with? That’s why we get upset. You lose or gain respect for women based on how many men they slept with.
As we should. Do you expect us to want to commit to a woman who has been passed around the block? Who has willing to open her legs to anyone? Or a woman who has enough self respect to not sleep around, who doesn't let just any guy in her pants? Which option do you think is the safer pick?
You shouldn’t. A person’s worth is not defined by their sexual history.
No it stems from standards. The value of a human being in general is not determined by a body count alone yes. But in terms of picking a future partner and a person who is going to represent you, and who is going to be the mother/father of your child, it does determine your relationship value from the male's perspective.
And here's why it matters to a man when dealing with a woman. Buckle up, this is gonna take a while.
1) A promiscuous women is absolutely a bad image for a guy who is marriage minded or wanting a serious relationship, knowing that the girl you are committing to has been passed around the block for everyone else to share.
2) Studies show that the higher a woman's body count, the more likely she is willing to end a relationship or initiate a divorce because she has lost her ability to pair bond with the number of sexual partners she's had, which is a big reason why many marriages are failing today. Plus they are more likely to fall into depression, do drugs, or experience severe mental problems.
3) MOST IMPORTANT REASON OF ALL HERE. We guys want to ensure paternity. The most devastating thing, or one of the most devastating things, to happen to a guy is him working his tail to the bone, shedding blood, sweat, and tears into raising a child, only to find out one day that the kid was never his. Numerous guys have gone insane, fallen into deep depression, and have even died due to heart attacks from the sudden weight of the news (which like many men's issues doesn't get reported). So if the woman you are dating is promiscuous, and she gets pregnant, there's a good chance that kid may not be yours.
But a person’s sexual history is not related to the value of the relationship you are going to have with them. The value of a relationship depends on other things such as trust, mutual respect and understanding.
The idea that a woman's sexual history directly correlates with her ability to maintain a stable relationship or her mental well-being is overly simplistic and not supported by robust scientific evidence.
Oh I beg to differ. There are many studies that show these correlations. Go ahead and google it if you don't believe me. And besides, yes a person's sexual history is correlated to the value of the relationship you're gonna have with this person. One of the things you mentioned was respect. EXACTLY. I do not respect a woman who has been sleeping around with just about any guy that walks up to her. I respect one who is NOT engaging in that type of behavior and is very guarded with EVERY guy that comes her way. Nor do I trust her. If you were to do those things before and your body count was over 50, what is stopping you from continuing to do it now? But a woman who DOESN'T have a high body count means that I can trust her to be more loyal to me when I'm not looking, and make herself exclusively for me. Loyalty is an absolute necessity for me when dealing with a woman. I don't mess around with that stuff, nor should I. Anyways, that's one of the big reasons why I said that a woman with a high body count is a big risk for a long term relationship.
It's a personal and classless question and is never asked at the right moment.
I don't there's ever a right time to ask such a question. And I don't think a guy should unless he feels he has something actuating him to ask such a question. Because it's kind of one of them fork in the road questions. You're getting the "ick" from her. And you're debating whether ot not continue. Or you wouldn't be asking.
Honestly if that question was asked in the first few dates or in the talking stage I wouldn't be moving things forward and would ghost in that same moment. I would never ask that question. That question is as bad as me asking you how much money you make. I've discussed my body count with my now Husband but when we did we were already in an established relationship and I didn't have any issue answering.
Because you are attaching judgement to the question. Are you asking someone that you love and trust, or are you asking body count of a stranger?
Well they're assuming judgement. But that illustrates my point. Why are women so knee-jerk reactionary to this question?
First do you mean strangers?
Well that's hard to answer. What do you qualify as a stranger.
I mean if they're dating to me that's not strangers.
Someone you haven’t met irl or known for more than a month
So in my experience I haven’t asked for a full sexual history on date #1. Usually that information come out more organically over time.
How do you ask? Do you ask about her past relationships after a few dates?
Same.
But sometimes you pull a string you know what I mean.
So can you better describe what happened? You were out on a date with someone and she got upset. Is that right?
if we sleep around or don't sleep around it's nobody's business so why bother asking all the time?
A lot of men don't want a woman that has been around the block, and women that have been around the block are offended if asked. A woman might not want a guy that has slept around, so the same goes for guys. It's up to each person, so no one can tell someone they are wrong if they don't want to date a player with a less pair bonding ability.
There is nothing wrong with jacking off either, but I like to keep the info about that to myself thank you.
Although I’m a virgin (at least for the next month or so), I find that question really intrusive and I wouldn’t blame a woman if she lied in response to it.
I agree it's an intrusive question. As I told another person. I consider it the nuclear option. You don't ask that question except in a last resort. But there's still no reason to get angry about it. And the fact that a woman would lie about it only shows she's trying to hide. Not a good look. Not a way to engender trust.
Why would you ever ask that question?
Because they know it's a big deal but lie to themselves about it. Being confronted with the truth forces them to face reality and stop using lies to cope.
WHO GIVES A FUCK? ITS IRRELEVANT, MEANINGLESS AND LIKELY NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS UNTIL ITS SERIOUS.
That's a very intimate personal question to be asking a woman in particular if you're not dating or in a relationship with, so they have a right to get upset.
Your question and the way you phrased it scream judgmental. You seem like the kind of person to think a man’s body count doesn’t matter but a woman’s does.
Well if you think that you think wrong. I hold men to the exact same standard.
That is at least consistent. But I see I was right, you are objectively judgmental.
It's usually the ones with the highest body count that have an issue with it.
Cause they know their value goes down with each dude they sleep with
If you know it upsets them then why you keep asking?
I've literally NEVER asked that question.
I LIKE hearing a woman tell me these things, explicit expletives. 🧐
Every woman in the comment section is trying hard to divert this topic but can't accept their own reality😂
Because it's rude and none of your business.
I'll say it again. It's the nuclear option! A guy should not ask this question unless she's given him very good reason to. But if he's asking at that point it IS his business. She doesn't have to answer. But a non-answer is still and answer.
It's really nobodys business
It’s none of their business ,
Accountability is kryptonite to women.
Ditto 😋
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