Snap that last sentence says it all.
I stand with l the Lord. I dont need to pledge allegiance to anything else
@DizzyDesii are you into the Bible or Bible history at all? I just recently read something about the “Flavian hypothesis” that was saying the Flavian dynasty of Rome (Titus Flavian burned down king Solomon’s temple, and later emperor Constantine declared Christianity the state religion) was wondering if you know anything of this time?
@JustiReno i am Christian but admit i haven't read the bible much
Would you really care though? i feel like you wouldn't tbh
It would depend on the occasion. Some people don’t know to act at solemn occasions. I imagine if someone didn’t want to stand it wouldn’t bother me as long as they stay quiet and still.
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and who's that?
@Still-alive The unpatriotic.
@Lycanthropic and so what?
@Still-alive You asked. iF
@Lycanthropic right so what if someone sits during the pledge or is unpatriotic? Would you do something about it?
A true American.
When there actually is "liberty and justice for all", then I'll stand and pledge. As a 19 yr old, you need to examine your country's history in a LOT greater detail. Many of those who died would have said the same thing.
@loveslongnails Oh, I’m sorry, could you name a county that as a 100% pure history? First I often hear about the slaughter of native Americans… that was when this land was colonized by England, Spain, Germany, Holland, and France! America may have had slaves, just like almost every country on earth, and slavery continues TO THIS DAY! However, America was the only country to fight a war to free the slaves! Meanwhile, I’ll just wait for that list of countries that have 100% clean and pure histories, thank you.
No country has that, obviously, but so what? I'm not going to pledge allegiance to any flag, or country, because my allegiance is to what's right first, not what some government "tells me" is right. You say you "hear about" the slaughter of Native Americans. So you were not born in the USA? True, they went to war several times with armies from those countries, but that's not even what I'm talking about.The government of the US once formed, went on a systematic attempt to wipe out the Native American population in its' entirety, even those who fought on the side of the Revolutionaries. This started shortly after the war ended, continued through to the Trail of Tears, through 500+ broken treaties. The list of horrors carried out by the US government, right in our own country, is quite revolting.As to slavery, you do know that if you ask anyone from the deep south, they'll tell you the Civil War wasn't fought to free slaves at all. They'll tell you it was fought over "state's rights". Hmm. Anyway, back to the question. I haven't even seen the pledge of allegiance said anymore. They still do the national anthem at sporting events, and I don't care if someone doesn't get up or take off their hat or put their hand over their heart. Those are empty gestures to me. Some of those same people support Trump and he's a tyrant, while they call everyone else unpatriotic. They don't know the meaning of the word.
@loveslongnails Okay, so None then? Then how about giving me the name of a country that has a 100% record of always doing what is right and good? Look, I’ve lived in three countries, and seen what live is like in other places, half my family lives in England… most of them all wish they lived here, last year 2.5 million people and over a million so far this year illegally crossed the southern border, just for a chance to live in this country you seem to hold in such little regard. How many Americans are clamoring to go the other way and leave? Ah right, NONE!
Your argument is irrelevant to the point of the post. The only thing you said that's relevant is that I do hold the USA in rather low regard right now not just because of its history, but where it's gone over the last 4-6 years in particular, especially under that idiot Trump. I didn't say I wanted to leave the US, did I? NO, what I'd rather see is intelligent and non-corrupted leadership, and JUSTICE for ALL. The REAL patriots are the people who are outraged by the abuses of government, not the ones who support it and say "love it or love it". And as for Mexicans or Central Americans clamoring to get into the USA, of COURSE they are because it's better than the poverty they live-in. Better than. But it's not so great for the 29.9% of the population that lives below, at or 2 times above the poverty line, is it? But that doesn't affect you or me, does it? The people clamoring to get in who hear they can make $12 dollars an hour don't necessarily realize that's 150% above the poverty line in this country - if they can even get in and find work.
@TransAm85 read what I said about our military fighting for the freedom and the rights of others to protest and burn our FLAG
You kneel when someone injured NOT disrespectful at all this is F-in BS