+1 yOn the surface it seems so, however when you live with it, experience it, it’s often not the case.
a decent article here.
https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/is-suicide-selfish#wanting-attention
I think on the lines of that article that at first glance Suicide appears selfish, however I have a fair bit of first hand experience if it.
It often comes down to how much before thought went in to it.
i had friends who have decided enough is enough and sought the best way out for them.
Im not sure the article mentions it or not, however there is a survivors guilt thing with suicides among friends and family, where you feel fucking shit that a friend has taken the “easy” way out.
then collectively you chat to their other friends and family, a picture emerges of where they have tried to talk about it, get help, made plans that you knew about at time but never joined the dots. Once you realise exactly what the signs they gave are, you feel guilty as fuck for not helping more, or trying to stop them or talk it through more.
i am in double figures on people I know who have committed suicide, some were close friends.
I think it’s easy to say yes it is, however by saying this it directly hits those with suicide ideation (passive / active). It also has a knock on effect on the overall mental health view of things.
https://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/survivingmentalhealthstigma/2021/9/is-suicide-selfish-if-it-is-so-what
Depression, PTSD, Suicide Ideation, other mental health problems are a nightmare for some to deal with daily, each is often their own little version of hell. Yes counselling etc does help in a lot of case, with coping strategies, etc, however a brutal fact is it does not with all.42 Reply- +1 y
I’m sorry to hear about your friends…
Did you ever go through the whole guilt thing? Of not noticing signs that were there only when it’s too late.
Just recently I lost a friend to suicide. Our parents also date so we saw a lot more of each other than anything. She chose that way out of her pain after years of saying she didn’t want to be here, that she wasn’t at peace and wasn’t herself.
I don’t think her decision was selfish, what would be selfish is if I sat here blaming her for how myself and others feel when she was sitting with all her problems for years, even after therapy.
Thank you for the great response though, for being open - +1 y
@SaartjieJane thanks for MHG, most appreciated
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+1 yI used to think that but actually I believe it's the opposite. We are only thinking about ourselves and how it makes us feel. Imagine being the one who takes their own lives and how they ended up feeling so bad that they wanted to harm themselves so much they DID take their own life.
Stigma about mental health should be lifted and treated like any other physical health issue. Taken seriously.10 Reply
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1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. In many ways yes it is whether you believe it or not we are very magical human beings I believe there are things that we can do that we don't even know we can do if you look at this planet Earth and if you have done any traveling it is one of the most beautiful places you've ever seen everywhere the way things are made so tuned and timed and just the way everything works hand in hand with each other no matter how we believe we are created we are special
I know tons of people I know so many people just unreal and I know two people that live in two different states they don't know each other or they didn't know each other but they both try to end their lives and for a few minutes basically way longer what they did took their lives and when they got to where they're going there were thousands and thousands of people crying and everybody was in a cage people could walk by and see them but they could not hear them no matter what you did they could not hear you so both of these people told me the exact same story they pleaded for their lives they pleaded to come back to earth they pleaded to get help they pleaded they would do anything and these two people were lucky because they got to come back they both tell the story of who you are what we are what we're supposed to be doing here and when you were giving a life and just because you can do it and take it doesn't mean that it's right everybody has a destiny everybody is one and if one of us screws up it just makes it harder down the road for everybody else but we all get through it I could go into a long detailed story about why you shouldn't take your or anybody else if we are energy and we live forever which energy does that means you take your life you're coming back but meanwhile until that time happens your locks in a cage and since you had no respect for life that's the kind of like that you will lead and you will live in misery because that's what you put on people and you took this life for granted
I guarantee you 99 out of 100 people once they took their life regretted a lot of times people that take their lives just because they feel sorry for themselves and they end up brainwashing themselves thinking about it over and over every day that's no way to live it's usually something so very simple that you just don't see it in that moment and then the way our brain works you say it so many times in your brain whether it's in a week a month or year you start to believe it and the way I bring works the more you think about it the more you're going to think about it until you either make a choice to do it or not I would recommend that because if you did I guarantee it within 30 seconds you wish you were back you wish you would have never done it so if you're talking about yourself I mean if you ever want to chat please send me a message because there is a way through this and it's actually very simple there's just a couple things you have to do I know I didn't answer your question but I felt there was something more important so please if you ever want to chat I don't care about what I will chat with you if you want to vent come see me you can vent to me10 Reply
+1 yNo! At times it might seem like it. All the people you can hurt from committing suicide but, honestly it isn’t selfish to want to end their pain. I get it. People who commit suicide are referred to as cowards. But, if those people who call those people cowards, then shouldn’t they try living in a so called “cowards” shoes for a day. See how hard it is to be thinking those thoughts and feeling so depressed you want to end your life. Those who commit suicide while might be in fear, are not cowards!
10 ReplyDifficult question to go in depth really but to make it short i will say that its your choice, i dont reccoment it but it could depend on the situation say being really old and in bad health suffering constantly, assisted suicide is a thing in some places and i think its a right choice, though if its because of depression no, i think suicide is a very awful thing not a coward but it definitely at the lowest of point feels like nothing gets better.
But i personally dont mind dying sometimes hoepfully doing something risky and fun😉10 Reply
+1 yI personally think, this subject is in the category along with 'Ab', it kinda depends in my opinion. Who are we to judge really anything someone else does? But, there are things to consider, baggage? Is it the only answer? Proper eddicate? Location? I guess I'm saying if it's the last resort type feeling, you are not leaving children in a bad spot, or it's not just for attention and you really feel it's the option then I say to each their own. I mean we make our own minds up for almost everything else, and if someone has a difference in opinion we usually come up with our reasons.. hope this is helpful
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+1 yYes, I personally believe that it is selfish! You may have problems that even seen insurmountable, but if you only talked to those who truly love you, they may be able to help you out… but killing yourself? That just leaves behind an entire network of friends and family in unbearable pain, left wondering “why didn’t I see the signs, I loved this person, but how could I not see that he was in so much pain? Why didn’t I do something to help him? You took the easy way out, a permanent solution for a temporary problem! That’s selfish and cowardly!
00 Reply I’m on the fence. Because on one hand yes it is extremely selfish. You leave your family forever in shambles and might even set a terrible trend (sometimes suicide can run in a family). Just ask the people who have to clean up after a shotgun blast to the mouth in the bathroom or in the car. No one can ever unsee those images. But on the other hand, one has to be extremely mentally ill to actually go through with the act of killing oneself. So maybe they can only be held partially responsible.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI think everyone has different upbringings and that definitely shapes our thoughts and feelings towards life. Some people can handle the heat of the unstable world we live in and others are more sensitive. I cannot judge it as selfish because that one person out there has probably gone through difficult times that may or may not relate to mine. Life is really a pressure and is always punching when you less expect it. The challenge is skipping those punches and if you get hit, then the challenge becomes to pick yourself up. We have to understand that not everyone has the same mentality and strength to deal with life.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo, and yes I've had loved ones who've passed that way but they were anything but selfish people. I think it's selfish to judge them and give them expectations like forcing them to live against their will and telling them to "get over it" or "suck it up" and having little to no understanding of what they're going through. Also, it kind of takes a lot of guts to put a gun to your head or jump from a high place. A coward would take no action at all. Anyway, blame the problem/situation not the person!
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Opinion Owner+1 yEveryone should probably listen to Kevin Hines and his story. He handles these situations the right way.
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+1 yIts not selfish but its the easy way out. Its the wrong way out. People need to open up to someone, anyone who will listen and is willing to help. there's always at least one person willing to help. And Sometimes its best to talk to someone else who almost hurt themselves but decided to stick with living because that person understands the most what the other person may be going through
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Talking about how shitty life is doesn’t objectively change anything in one’s life. Great. Someone listened. But you’re still poor and have a dead end job and debt up to your eyeballs and unfulfilling relationships and a bad marriage and blah blah blah.
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@Agagagagaga well it helped me and I helped many others. Sometimes venting helps and someone helping you get on the right track can as well. So speak for yourself
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It helps some but not not all. Talking, therapy, support doesn’t change their suffering, etc. I get what you’re saying though and we all do just wish that it would be enough, sometimes it just isn’t
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Yea sometimes it isn't. But we werent meant to be anyones savior. The most we can do is help in words or actions and hope for the best. The rest is left up to the Lord and/or the actions of the person in need
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+1 yI think with the exception of someone who's married or has children, the selfish ones are (sometimes) the people who say that.
Some people are insufferable and there's nothing you can do to help them.
Some people just need someone to give a shit and help them up. And people don't help, they continue to hurt the person and exclude them and then they kill themselves and everyone goes "what a jackass" and I hate seeing that.10 Reply If you have people that care about you, in a way yes it is selfish cause if someone ever ends up committing suicide they were never thinking about how it would be for the people that actually cared and stayed on earth while he/she took the easy way out
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+1 yNo it isn't selfish, crying isn't selfish. Suicide is not selfish too. Why to live when you don't want to? However it maybe selfish incase there are people willing to listen to you genuinely. Suicidal people aren't coward too, it's just that world was too harsh on them. Being suicidal isn't wrong. Not becoming lively again when you can is wrong.
00 ReplyNo, I do not think suicide is selfish. If someone is in pain, they're not thinking about other people before their own pain. I think it's selfish to make other people do things they don't want to do, like live in pain and suffering everyday. Besides, many people, if not half, that attempt suicide, don't have anyone that'll miss them, anyway. That's kinda of the rationale.
00 Reply5.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Not at all and I hate when someone says that suicide is selfish. Only the person who's suffering knows what they're going through. It's their pain so we shouldn't judge them.
Nobody commits suicide because they want to or because they don't care about the people who love them. They do it because they want to end their suffering.00 ReplyIt takes a lot of strength and to keep living and face your difficulties
It may seem like it is the easy option to run away but usually when people decide they want to die then it is because for a long time they’ve felt like they have nothing left to live for anymore.00 Reply- 7.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yyes. I think it's more an issue of being unfortunate that person gets stuck trying to solve some complex emotional problem with insufficient support. The answer is probably getting out of whever they are, to somewhere else, with help to surpass the snag. For life is filled with them when not properly equiped for ones personality.
00 Reply 590 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It can be if you have people in your life who depend on you. Other than that, it is your decision and no one can really force you to live if you don't want to. Even if people want you to live you're still going to find some way to die. I mean you in general.
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+1 yYes but I sympathize greatly with them. Their life became so miserable they could no longer see a worthy future to live for and here I am with so many dreams and aspirations. Their family and friends will be heartbroken and I'm sure the people of the past who committed suicide all wish they didn't. If they could have another chance in this world they would take it without a doubt.
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+1 yNot to those who are suffering and just want it to end. But they are not always in their right minds either.
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+1 yThere are situations were it would seems selfish like suicide because he/she can't take care of a family member that has advance alzheimer or severe autism, but the truth is that however things has to be very hard for them to suicide. So I think we are not anybody to judge them.
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+1 yNever. Even if the person was under debt and left it off to family and just ended his life. Because the reason was big enough that they left EVERYONE and EVERYTHING, it's selfish to force them to live when they don't want to.
#thisisntasuicidepromotionopinionitsjustmedontmindplease10 Reply
+1 yAfter my divorce I thought long and hard about it. As difficult as it is I'm sticking around until my mom passes. It would have been a lot easier on me if when she told me she was leaving i found a rope and a Stout tree. I could have avoided years (decades) of extreme suffering. But I had obligations and responsibilities , taking the easy way out wasn't an option.
I was honestly very hopeful when covid first started , but I didn't get so much as a sniffle00 Reply
+1 yIt can be. But given the circumstances their self view can often be so low that they honestly don't see their act as selfish.
If you see yourself as thrash, getting rid of the thrash isn't selfish. The guilt on friends and family being unable to help you isn't a possibility in their mind, because that is not how they see themselves or their situation.00 Reply
+1 yI wouldn’t blame the person committing suicide of doing anything wrong. For people who say it’s selfish to leave behind family and friends, what do we expect? For them to suffer through their pain for the sake of others.
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+1 yIt all depends on how you look at it
From the point of the person who wants out then no as their suffering and suicide is one way out no more pain no more suffering.
But on the other hand you have the people that are left behind wondering what they did wrong what they could have done to stop you doing it,
And your pain and suffering then turns into their pain and suffering.
So really it can be taken either way.10 ReplyAn actual, legit question on GAG worth answering.
I honestly don't believe there is a right or wrong answer. I am sure some are for selfish reasons. But not everything selfish is bad. I can understand why someone with terminal cancer in constant pain wants to die on their own terms. At the same time, I can be empathetic towards people with serious mental health issues, including depression. So I don't think the question can truly be answered. There will always be a debate about it.00 Reply
+1 ySuicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If You are still alive then You are still alive for a reason and it would be selfish to go against the reason you are still alive. Think about how it would hurt your loved ones if You take Your own life.
00 ReplyI think it's selfish when the loved ones of someone who commits suicide claims that it was selfish.
People treatment mental health differently because they can't always see it... Imagine if a loved one had cancer and was in so much pain and suffering, would you expect them to stay alive just to benefit you? Of course not. So why do you expect someone who is suicidal to do the same? They are clearly hurt and suffering, you just can't see it...00 Reply2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I don't think it's selfish because sometimes life is just too darn hard for some people to handle.
The only thing that would stop me is going to hell and not heaven. I don't want to end up in the 🔥 firey pit.10 Reply26.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Everyone says it is but maybe it is selfish to make somebody live when they are getting no enjoyment out of life and would rather be gone.
40 Reply3.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Everything it this world can be selfish if that's how you look at it. Including suicide.
I think it's selfish of anyone to look at someone that's contemplating suicide and think "that's so selfish, how could they do that to everyone that loves them?"
That in itself is someone only caring about themselves00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yNo I don't think so, if I have the right to live then I also have the right to die.
There's nothing wrong with it. But that's a huge step and I discourage it if your problems can be resolved. Because once you take that step there's no comming back.
Forget about this religious bullshit of sin so far I have noticed most religious preachers are sinner themselves they openly do sins like rape, murder etc and still get away with it.20 Reply648 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Eeeehehhhheeehhhhh... nnn... yyy... I really can't say. Some cases, it is and sometimes it's not. Like robin williams, he said fk it because he was being used by his family and I think he had enough of it. But what do i know, I haven't tried suicide
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He had health issues.
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Some people have the balls when presented with health problems to not suffer.
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You said it was because he was being used by his family. He was fucked up health wise. He doesn't want to shit his pants and have his wife wife wipe his asshole.
+1 yIt's selfish, but understandable. No one knows the amount of inner turmoil someone who's gone through with it went through in their lifetime. Yet, it does leave a great deal of pain behind to the ones who truly cared for them.
00 Reply12.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yes. Nobody wants to have to literally clean you up, because you were feeling a bit too lazy to get help.
As my old mate Brabo used to say : "Suicide is for cowards, fight back and test fate instead".00 Reply
+1 ySuicide equal with being coward. No matter how hard is life, you must go through it. Choosing the easy way will only let others to carry your burden into their lives, something that they don't deserve it.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou know--I always found it really odd that people would try to talk folks out of suicide by pointing out that it's "selfish." Like--the dude is fucking thinking about killing himself. My guess is it's NOT because the world has been super great at looking out for his interests. So if ANYTHING he's probably in a bit of a selfish mood!
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+1 yI think so. But then again, you don’t know what that person is going through. And if the people around them didn’t check on them. Then can’t really expect too much
10 Reply I think it's selfish to judge other people's suffering.
20 ReplyI am a suicide survivor. I attempted suicide twice, it was tough to be honest. But the point is suicide is a way to end the pain we're going through.
Suicide is selfish because there are many people tied to you. And you're going to let them down if you kill yourself.
It is sad our society don't really care, but there are people who love you. Stay strong. And remember living each day is courage. You are strong!!! I am proud of you. ❤️00 Reply- 396 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yIt depends. Cause you gotta understand, why there is suicide. It’s from depression. Depression and stress is a strong emotion, that it affects the body emotionally and physically.
00 Reply Killing is the absolute forbidden rule in life that no one should cross because we all have been blessed with life; and that includes taking your own life
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That's a crock of shit.
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No. I couldn't kill anyone unless they tried to kill me. Or they are a threat to family. People can off themselves. They can and they do. For whatever reasons. It's not up to you. To be uppities is a different thing. It isn't nice when they blow their head off with a shot gun. PTSD for anyone who comes across it. Should they think it over a bit? How to do it, and not cause anguish. Perhaps.
It iss kinda selfish because commiting suicide means that you don't wanne suffer anymore but the consequences of that is that you are going to make the peopleel who are closest to you suffer for the rest of their lifes
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+1 yI think it's horrible and I hope you don't feel that way. Not really I feel horrible to see some people at such a low point they think that is the only way out.
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+1 yI do not blame people
cause this place is not the most fun
but the human race was bought with a price by the most high
no one should kill themselves10 Reply671 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Suicide is one of those things that can be spun to be a number of different interpretations depending on ones narrative.
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+1 yNot, people got a lot of things they want to go right on their way. If someone wants to take his/her own life it seems they already gave up on everything, like there is no help. So being selfish doesn't mean somebody will commit suicide.
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+1 yIt’s not selfish but it’s sinful and cowardly and wicked
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While it is sinful, we all sin so how can we judge them for sinning differently from us? Sin is sin at the end of the day and everyone can be forgiven
8.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. To the outward observer, it definitely looks like it but to the suicidal person, they think they are doing everyone else a favor by offing themselves.
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+1 yYou don't owe your life to anyone. It's yours, to do with as you choose. But remember, once it's gone you don't get another.
10 Reply11.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yeap, and nothing wrong with that. The world didn't help ease the pain, so one does what one can to do so.
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+1 yWhen you commit suicide you make your family suffer. This is very selfish
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Let’s say someone was an orphan, no family and no good close friends, would you say it’s still selfish then?
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Hmm well maybe.. it's considered a sin though. In my opinion being orphan doesn't stop you from becoming someone and reaching goals.. it really depends on the personality and character of the person...
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Ah fair enough if you’re religious but don’t forget that sin is sin and everyone sins daily. No sin is better or worse than the other. A person who has committed suicide can still be forgiven. So judging a person for sinning differently from you isn’t right in my opinion.
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Well I don't know
+1 yOf course, your family suffers, there's many more solutions to problems
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What about an orphan who has no family and no actual close friends? Would you say it’s still selfish then?
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No, not if no one gives a fuck about them I guess, it's still not the right solution but it's not really selfish if there's no one to suffer for that person
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So it’s selfish if you end your life after years and years of suffering just because other people will be sad but if no one is around then so what. That seems quite selfish to me tbh. People don’t owe others anything in my opinion and if it’s only selfish to commit suicide because of how other people feel and not about how you must’ve been feeling then it’s like you think more about yourself than the person who was actually struggling so much in life. Someone doesn’t just do that for no reason or because ah yeah they were going through a hard time like everyone else
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There's therapy and other ways of helping that's not suicide, suicide is selfish, there's no way around it, you are thinking of yourself and make a decision that will effect others, it's what selfishness is and suicide isn't something that just effect that person that commits suicide, it makes the people that care about that person suffer, some might even view it as cowardly because it's the easy way out, selfishness means that you are thinking of yourself and not thinking of others, which is exactly what someone does when they make the decision to commit suicide, I didn't make the dictionary
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Actually therapy doesn’t always work and doesn’t just take deep pain and suffering away. Some peoples pain and suffering is so much deeper than you think. You don’t owe anything to anyone. When you make choices in life so that you can be happy, you don’t think about every other person and how they feel, you’ll do what you feel will truly make you happy.
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@themajesticking777 so say a guy has been diagnosed with a severe medical condition, motor neurone , Locked In, even Alzheimer’s. The prognosis is not good and their partner may have to give up their job to provide 24/7 care, even in some cases remortgage house, move to purpose built house.
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You can’t blame them for how you feel. Have some compassion for people
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Another one that a few years back was a real consideration and talked about.
You are in a military vehicle travelling through say ISIS area, your vehicle comes under attack, it’s disabled, ammo is running low.
The choices, surrender to ISIS and face beheading or cooked alive
A 9mm to the head
What would be most compassionate for your family back at home?
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You are changing everything, those are serious situations and you would've died anyways, I'm speaking about the people that have a choice
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And mental illness is also different, you are thinking of something completely different
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If y'all want to disagree then go ahead but suicide is selfish if you have a family right next to you
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I am speaking from real life and experience.
Often there is no choice, this is part of the stigma around things to do with suicide, especially suicide ideation.
Basically what I am saying is, it is not always selfish, each case can be different and a blanket ‘it’s selfish’ is wrong.
Yes some could have been another way out, yes some will be selfish from the point of view of others, some even stupid when you look at them in cold light of day.
I have been part of 6 investigation boards where someone has committed suicide (Military) and shit they are thorough.
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@TheMajesticKing777 I love what @Deathraider said, “What do we expect? For them to suffer through their pain for the sake of others?” Because no, therapy doesn’t always help, talking to people doesn’t always help. While you think you could get over some things in life and be fine, there are others who cannot.
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There's always a choice, my mind won't change, there's no point of wasting your time, both of y'all, sorry 🤷🏽
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I hope you know that you’re actually the selfish one. You’re thinking about yourself and how you’d feel if someone close to you passed away, you’re not thinking about them and how they must’ve been feeling… just you and how you feel.
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So I'm selfish because I wouldn't want someone else to commit suicide? How does that work?
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You are talking about feelings, I'm talking about someone's well being, if you think someone's feelings out do someone's health then I don't know what to tell you, I know most issues can be solved one way or another, people move on, the brain adjusts to changes so committing suicide is not the right solution if it's not for situations chris mentioned where suicide is the best answer, which are limited
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Personally to me it's a selfish choice when it comes to your family, if you can accept my opinion then I don't understand why you would ask the question, so you want me to lie to you and tell you what you wanna hear cause I don't see the point of this discussion
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No you’re selfish because you’re thinking about yourself and not that person. Of course I’d never want anyone to make that choice but it’s also not my choice to make now is it? I’d be selfish if I said to them, “don’t do this, I’ll suffer so much”…. And you don’t see how that’s not selfish? You want them to live a life of suffering and pain, you want to prolong that just so you don’t feel sad
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So your solution instead of help, you believe they are better off dead and that's a better solution to their sufferment?
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Because they feel sad, so fuck medications and therapy and family support and friends support and their partner, their best solution is to kill themselves? Really?
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You are putting yourself too much on the perspective of the person suffering and being in pain and not thinking of any other perspective and point of view of how serious the situation is.
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Hang on a second, not once did I say that. Maybe read properly. Even people who have gotten help, have gotten therapy and have spoken with family, they still see suicide as the only way out and at that point you literally cannot stop them because they will do it. Is it incredibly sad? Yes! So fucking sad but you know what? That’s their choice and some people just can’t find the peace they want and need and that’s their way out. You have absolutely no idea what’s going on in a persons head unless they themselves have told you every single thing but I suppose for people like you, their feelings don’t matter because they’re still selfish for wanting to do that right?
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People are often in so much pain they don’t see any other way and that it’s better for everyone.
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All that stuff can mean Jack shit when their head is all over. Therapy, family support, friends, etc. If a person isn’t happy, if a person is depressed, I’d a person is suffering deep within, sometimes all that does fuck all.
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People like me? I don't know what category you are putting me on but I'm going to stop trying to reason with you, I doubt you'd be thinking the same if someone you cared about was thinking of suicide, you'd be trying everything to stop them, I'm guessing from what you say, that would make you selfish, you are confusing me, gree to disagree
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Have you ever had suicidal thoughts yourself?
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I just lost a friend/family to suicide. Years of therapy, her family at her beck and call for support, great friends, etc. In her own words, she felt it was better this was, she was sick of feeling crazy, feeling depressed, feeling sick and that wasn’t her, she don’t have peace on this earth.
So mate, for many, all that stuff can mean nothing if the person themselves truly just doesn’t want to be here, if they think that’s the best option for them. Of course you fucking wish they chose otherwise but She suffered a lot and I’d be selfish to say she had to keep dealing with that for the rest of her fucking life so I didn’t feel sad. Reading her journals and how it was full of positivity, her trying to be positive through the hell of a storm she was going through, she tried really hard to be okay. End of the day that’s not being selfish. That’s her making a choice to make her happy, she needed her peace - +1 y
I hope you never have to deal with someone suffering as much as she did and making that choice. I hope you never get so low in life that you want to leave that way too.
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My brother was a trigger away from it what stopped him was his families sufferment, I guess people are just built different
+1 yI don’t think it’s selfish. Is it the easier way out? Yes but it’s not selfish bc I truly believe people only commit suicide when they truly can’t take whatever they’re going through anymore.
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+1 yMore stupid , since that person will go straight to Hell and be there forever and whatever the problem was , it will be 1000 x worse in hell. So , he or she is getting rid of one problem and just adding more problems.
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+1 yFor legal reasons I'm going to say it's a selfish bad thing and nobody should do it
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+1 yIt depends. There is no one size fits all to this question.
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+1 yAsk this: if the suicidal person shared that one thought what might happen? There is your answer.
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+1 yOnly if you have a family that you've created... Kids or a spouse who loves you and made their plans based on you... Other than that it's not
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+1 yPeople who have suffered so much and have no hope of salvation commit suicide.
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