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Should paternity tests be mandatory? (Page 2)
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Only if there is any doubt especially in a child support situation
@Likes2drive "Only if there is any doubt". How can you ever remove "doubt"? Shouldn't a married man have the same protections as a man she randomly hooked up with?
Yeah definitely, I just meant if he thought it was a possibility
@Likes2drive. It's ways a possibility. It's "mommy's baby and daddy's maybe".
Nice rhyme 😊
Yeah totally. If abortion exists so should this. Stigma around it needs to be gone.
Yes, men should be charged with reckless abandonment for every sperm that doesn't fertilize an egg.
Yes. There's a lot of men paying for s child that's not even theirs and a lot of women do this. So i think it absolutely should be mandatory
Yes and afterwards , chld support should start after proof is shown 😂
Because women should automatically get custody because fathers should have no rights to their own kids right?
I swear, most women hate equal treatment under the law and only want preferential treatment.
Custody should automatically be 50/50 with no support paid by either person. they take care of them when they have their time with their kid.
Lmao who said that the man shouldn't have rights? I didn't. a lot of men don't even want part custody when they ask for DNA tests. They just don't want to be parents. a lot of u don't even stay long or come around persistently afterwards. Just come around every blue moon , thinking one gift or a happy meal for the child and a conversation is being a good parent. But not there at all when the mom really needs help. Therefore , I said child support should start after evidence is seen.
If the man is there for the child or is really trying to be there and the woman isn't letting him then he can use that against her in court. people who are guilty always slip up so he can take her to court for custody.
Yes they should. Far to many men are child support for children that aren't even thiers
Sounds like if you need it, you know. That’s like saying sump pumps should be mandatory.
Mandatory? Why mandatory? If wanted, sure they should be done, but why mandatory?
What if it exposes your cheating wife?
@crossdressingrihno there a study made on the odds a man has of rasing a child that is not his own.
You might think this study could not be reliable or bias. Well in this case this is done in literally every country in the European Union. Do you know what the average was? 3. something % don't remember exactly it was close to 4%.
Why am I going to worry for 4%?
Because that 4% is easily avoidable
@crossdressingrihno But people have the right to chose of they want to know or not.
Should they though?
Does it actually hurt innocent people?
If so what group of people does it hurt
@crossdressingrihno you don't think people should have the right to chose if they want a paternity test or not?
Of course not
That's like in the name of the question
"Should paternity tests be mandatory?"
@crossdressingrihno so we agree. They should be available if anyone asks. But not mandatory.
No we disagree
Yup, too many men have been lied to, too many kids don't know their REAL FATHERS.
Should be mandatory before child support is paid, if the kids not his, too many men paying child support for kids that don't belong to them.
Concerned fathers should simply do a test behind everyones back.
White woman always cheat black woman make better wife's.
?
No.
People can have one if they want.
Shouldn't be mandatory.
@Dinklex3. Like to cheat on your man, eh?
What?
@Dinklex3. Did I stutter?
Definitely now that abortion is illegal. I ain't raising some negro's baby.
U racist bro
Mind as well just admit that ur a racist white trash!
Yes.
Make them mandatory at birth, so there can be NO issues later on.
Yes, 100% administrative action the parents have nothing to do with. The child is swabbed as is the man identified as the father by the mother. If the DNA is a match the birth certificate is issued as they are today. If however there is no match the process moves to the courts to decide paternity. This way a female can NOT baby trap a man.
Why would they be mandatory?
Why would they be mandatory?
@IceCreamSandwich. Gee, I don't know, maybe because of the epidemic of paternity fraud?
They are already an option. You can get them on your own. Why would it be mandatory, forced, instead of just an option?
@IceCreamSandwich. If paternity testing were mandatory it would help keep some women a bit straighter.
"Some" and "a bit" doesn't sound like it justifies a nation- (or world-) wide mandate.
If you're suspicious of a woman you can get a test. If you just wanna be sure you can get a test. If you don't care to or don't want to there's no reason you should be forced.
@IceCreamSandwich. No.
There are really THREE victims to paternity fraud: 1) the man who is paying for, bonding with, raising a child who is not his. 2) The REAL father who doesn't know he has a child and isn't given the opportunity to be the child's father. 3) THE CHILD who never knows his/her ACTUAL FATHER.
One crime by a selfish and deceptive woman, three victims.
Okay. So paternity test your own kid and don't sleep with other men's women. If other men wanna have affairs and not bother about checking if their women did the same, why should someone else step in and force them? It's not like having a baby daddy instead of an "adopted" father will make the kids life any better. It would probably just lead to them having a single parent and/or a parent who dislikes them even more. I don't see why the government should get involved in every birth just because some people cheat and mess up their own lives.
@IceCreamSandwich. Your white-knighting will only land you paying for a child (children) that are not yours. Women hate simps. Do better.
It's my life, I can do what I want. You can do what you want. I'm against big government, doesn't mean I didn't do a paternity test.
@IceCreamSandwich. I am against big government as well, but consider this. When a woman has a child she decides who the father is and has his name out on the birth certificate. This man is arbitrarily financially responsible for that child until age 18, whether he is the father or not. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE MAN TO PROVE HE IS NOT THE FATHER, which can take a year or more. During this year+ he has to pay child support. Once he is proven not to be the child do you think he gets a refund? No fucking way. Does the woman gets punished? Nope? I simply want to make the burden of proof "equal". Isn't that what feminism is all about?
Who's talking about feminism? If you want to make it equal, why not argue that the man should just have to give permission for his name to be put if there has been no paternity test? Then women can't force men into it, and paternity tests are still optional unless one party demands it.
Because at present women get to decide which man pays for the child. Do you know how many men have been sent to jail for not paying child support for kids that aren't theirs?
Yeah, and at present paternity tests aren't mandatory. Either solution would make men not be able to be forced to pay when they're not the father. Only one would involve government mandated blood work. So why do you want that one?
Mandatory would help keep women in line in the first place.
Keeping women in line—I thought this was about protection? Equality? Give men equal power as women for putting names on birth certificates. Then they are protected from being forced into any responsibility against their will. And the burden of proof is on the mother to prove he's the father if he says he's not.
Would that not fix the problem? How could you still say women need to be "kept in line" when they would have no power to force fatherhood on anyone except who they can prove is the real father? How could you use such a flimsy vague complaint to argue for exhaustive, national, mandated DNA testing?
@IceCreamSandwich. The fact that you are so resistant to the idea tell me you don't have much experience with women and that you are not a father. Wait until your cohorts are a bit older and start experiencing these issues, your eyes will be opened.
This depneds on the situation
No. It’s up to the couple.
No why does it matter?
Anon... Hoe says what?
If it’s just for child support purposes yes
Bloods better
There are really THREE victims to paternity fraud: 1) the man who is paying for, bonding with, raising a child who is not his. 2) The REAL father who doesn't know he has a child and isn't given the opportunity to be the child's father. 3) THE CHILD who never knows his/her ACTUAL FATHER.
One crime by a selfish and deceptive woman, three victims.
That’s the whole point of having the test. Blood is better. You can extract blood after a certain time period. I only know what I would do.
I think Child support only goes in effect if that person is not doing everything they can for their child. Some men even put themselves on it so they don’t have to be bothered with the woman.
I wouldn’t want no one to question if that’s their child and I wouldn’t want to that child to wonder where their father is.
Op... What about the rights of the defrauded "father's" and real father?
Did you read what I said there wouldn’t be no fraud if we’re all ready getting the DNA test. You know who you slept with.
OP, YOU know who you slept with, but the guy doesn't know.
But no one hiding it from them and if you’re open and honest like I am then they would know
Op. Seriously? Are you fucking kidding? Do you think most wives say "oh, by the way, I am fucking a few other guys as well as you"?
Sure. No more paternity fraud
The men who dont want them are happy to be cucked.
Lol nah
@Bratsondanielle What are you afraid of?
I ain't afraid of nothin son buy I don't think they should be automatic
@Bratsondanielle.
I am amazed how many women are scared shitless of a little bitty paternity test.
Like I said: I'm not afraid of that or any else for that matter
Why? To what end?
Absolutely.
Sure why not
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