This tells me women believe they have a right to defraud men and their children.
Should paternity tests be mandatory?

This tells me women believe they have a right to defraud men and their children.
I think that they should be available to anyone who wants them, but I don't think that they should be mandatory. I just think that requiring them would plant seeds of mistrust between partners, and that's that's not good for their relationship, or for the child.
I just know that I would be pretty insulted if my partner were to ask for a paternity test. I would let him have one, of course. But I would be pretty hurt by the fact that he didn't trust me.
So for the government to mandate something like that... it would be a pretty big slap in the face to women.
Also, if you were to mandate it, what would the consequences be if people refused? Are you going to take their kids away? Because that's not okay. And what if the father isn't in the picture. What if he left, or the mother doesn't know who he is? How is she supposed to prove that? What about kids born through sperm donation?
Paternity tests are already commonplace for men being asked to pay child support. And I think that that's completely well and good. I also think that if a man thinks that he may be the father of a child, he should be able to request a paternity test. (If he has sufficient grounds for believing it, that is, because otherwise paternity test requests would very quickly become a method for stalkers to insert themselves into the lives of their victims. I say this as someone who has had stalkers before).
But to require them of single mothers, or parents who have been in a committed, monogamous relationship for years. That's not okay.
It wouldn't plant mistrust if it was just a standard procedure before signing a birth certificate.
Paternity tests are not standard or common when requiring child support. A minority of states even offer it, and none require it. Contrarily, 33 states have “dad by default” laws. A man CANNOT challenge paternity once declared by the mother. Even “sneaking” a DNA test behind the mother’s back can result in prison time. Mind you, these laws also apply to men who BOTH parties know are NOT the biological father. If a woman cheats and gets pregnant, she can still hold her husband responsible for child support under the law. If a man dates a woman who’s already pregnant, knowingly or not, she can claim he’s the father and he’s held responsible. In some cases, because biological fathers are always responsible, if there are DBD laws on the books, a woman can collect child support from BOTH men. I used to work with just such a woman many years ago. Wicked bitch, that one. Everyone knew it too, but there’s nothing anyone could do about it.
@Chazmatazz269 There are some exceptions to these dads by default laws. In some cases, a man has a limited amount of time to object and in almost all cases must be married to the mother. Another issue for a man in this situation is if he while knowing about the wife's adultery sleeps with her again. I know a married guy that did this in Michigan last year. His wife got pregnant by another man. He refused to reconcile with her, demanded a paternity test, and got out of paying child support. He still got hit hard in the divorce, but is free of both mother and child today!
@Chazmatazz269 Un-fucking real.
I think I sort of understand the issue here. If a man asks his partner for a paternity test that could offend the women who maybe has been faithful the whole time and would be hurt that her partner doesn't trust her. However, a man who's been burned before might not want to pay for, and love a child that's not biologically his. So making it mandatory would clear up any hurt feelings on either side, neither would have a choice in the matter, so there is nothing to be offended or hurt about from each other. I think what some of the other users are talking about is that it sounds like too much goverment overreach and all of that which I understand as well. However, who says the goverment would be allow to keep the DNA on file, it should be destroyed once the answer is revealed.
Anon... YES, BRAVO, EXACTLY!!!
I see that the majority of naysayers are women. Funny, it's like they are trying to hide their own mischievious behavior. Any woman who thinks it shouldn't be mandatory is someone I will assume to have something to hide.
If you got nothing to hide, then you shouldn't have an issue granting your man the privilege and HIS RIGHT to know 100% that the child he is about to take care of for the next 18-21 years to actually be HIS. Whether it is a baby daddy, a boyfriend or a husband. If you truly did love your man, you wouldn't have an issue granting him his right.
Paternity fraud is a SERIOUS thing. Any woman who has an issue with this is either a cheater herself or she is an enabler. Don't come to me with the bullshit of medical bills or the government being "too engaged". Because you wouldn't have an issue running to the government for alimony or childsupport. But you do have an issue with giving the man his basic human RIGHT to know that the kid is indeed his.
Yes. Make it mandatory to allow men to know who their kid is.
@TruthBringer. Exactly right. Even the mere discussion of accountability scares the hell out of a large percentage of woman.
Hell yes. It would stop paternity fraud, and it would let kids know who their real fathers were instead of just the richest guy Mom could accuse.
@msc545 There are really THREE victims to paternity fraud: 1) the man who is paying for, bonding with, raising a child who is not his. 2) The REAL father who doesn't know he has a child and isn't given the opportunity to be the child's father. 3) THE CHILD who never knows his/her ACTUAL FATHER.
One crime by a selfish and deceptive woman, three victims.
@KrakenAttackin As to your update comment, I've run into the situation before where men refused to have a paternity test against all apparent logic. Turns out many men do not want to actually know that their wives or girlfriends cheated on them (and usually keep cheating) because then they would feel compelled to leave them. Even worse, they would have to revise their feelings for and relationships with the children they suddenly found out are not their natural children. That is a lot for any man to handle and a lot of guys would really rather not deal with it. I personally had a paternity test of my daughter when she was three months old because I don't trust any woman in this regard, and fortunately, it turned out she is my daughter. I was lucky since her mother really is a piece of shit, but my daughter is a gem.
@KrakenAttackin I'm sorry you too had to go through this - it's hell.
@KrakenAttackin Mandatory testing is a must. Too many women commit paternity fraud.
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I think it would keep men from trying to deny fatherhood or getting away from fatherhood responsibilities. We need more fathers actually being fathers instead of jacking around m. I want to see them changing diapers, burping, feeding, pushing strollers, taking them to the doctor and doing all the mom shit. A man’s money is no longer enough.
Where is @Subarugirl? Anyone know if she is ok?
@msc545 Holy shit, that's awful bro! I am so sorry that happened to you. I was also the victim of false accusations which costs me an extra $25k in legal fees, and cost me bargaining power in the divorce. When I was cleared of any wrong doing were there any reprocussions for her? Nope. Sucks to the bone.
@KrakenAttackin I'm sorry Kraken - that just sucks. Glad you are out of it, if you now are, I hope.
"I think it would keep men from trying to deny fatherhood or getting away from fatherhood responsibilities." - It would also save us from being baby trapped and lied to by conniving whores and gold diggers. In Michigan men can't demand DNA tests in child support cases and its estimated 1/4 of Men on child support in Michigan are paying child support to kids that aren't theirs. We need forced DNA testing in the delivery room by law. It will catch the good and bad on both sides.
@ronaldo75 Exactly right.
@ronaldo75 You really DO need it.
I want to see women digging ditches and running heavy machinery and lifting heavy objects. You know. Doing guy stuff. Just so I can laugh at the strong and independent women doing this as they explain a man should do that type of manual labor because they’re stronger, but they should be paid equally to men despite lacking equal ability. Just like where I work now.
The women can do that. Then I can get on Opra and bitch about how hard being a single dad is. Hey, those Disney movies aren’t going to put themselves in the DVD player and someone has to feed these kids Fruit Roll Ups all while lying to myself and saying what a good dad I am, completely forgetting I let some turd who I knew wouldn’t stick around get pregnant by me, then complain they are dead beats.
It gets better guys, trust me. I threw up my hands at the whole juvy system. Decided to just live my life. Yeah, it sucks being forced out of your child's life. But I make 6 figures, dabble in the stock market, bought some rental property. And that dumb, government-check getting bitch can suck my dick, acting like she should have a gold medal for being a mother. Any vending machine can accept money and pop something out of it.
Curious so many dudes who would want mandatory paternity tests are mad that you want it too, but for different reasons. Haha! Geezus, guys. If you feel the need to argue with someone who agrees with you, you’re probably mentally ill. Seek help. Ell oh ell!
@MzAsh didn't read every comment but in my opinion time with the child is a reward not a burden. The parents should pony up for the time and control over the child. Men and women both generally want to be involved. And if they are broke or happy to put a child first and material things last, that's not a bad thing. A man or woman who hardly earns a penny shouldn't be penalized if they want to spend every waking moment with that child. The fact a parent would go without any financial assistance of the other parent should be the minimum proof they want to be the best parent. Example a parent who days idgaf that spouse is shit and I'd struggle to keep them out of their life has more credibility than one who says I want the child so I can get a $1000 a month payment.
I think they should be available upon the request of either the mother or a putative father, but I would not favor government mandates when both mother and father may be quite content without going to the trouble of the paternity test.
There really isn't any "trouble" for a paternity test, just a cheek swab of the infant and the father. In my state it is mandatory that newborns are given antibiotics squirted in their eyes to ward off Syphilis (because so many women have Syphilis), unless the parents have a "religious objection".
Why haven't the insurance companies mandated paternity testing? If the father is the one with the benefits, the insurance company will be on the hook for all of the expenses from pre-natal until the kid is 26 years old (potentially). If insurance companies simply required proof of paternity before the child is placed on the insurance, this would make things interesting.
While it's refreshing to see that 44% of women agree this is a good idea, it's still disgusting that 56% don't, and that is indicative of the continued lack of support for fairness in gender equality and rights for men. There is literally only one valid reason why a woman would not support mandatory paternity testing and that is her desire to retain her ability to cheat and commit fraud.
"Paternity fraud is very common in the United States and around the world. According to the American Association of Blood Banks, a research report was submitted by accredited parentage laboratories. The results showed three out of every ten men tested were found not to be the biological father. There were about 300,000 DNA Paternity testing cases analyzed and roughly 100,000 men have deemed not the father. It is important to note, the DNA results submitted for this study were Legal DNA testing results. No peace of mind DNA tests as part of the study."
https://immigrationdnatestonline.com/paternity-fraud-2/#:~:text=Paternity%20fraud%20is%20very%20common,to%20be%20the%20biological%20father.
In every case of paternity fraud, and there are clearly many, there are three primary victims: the man who is lied to and told he is the father when he really isn't, the actual father who is robbed of his right to know and be a part of his child's life, and the child who is robbed of his/her right to know his/her father and have him as part of his/her life. Injustices like this are not tolerated today when a woman is the victim. Why do we as a society still not recognize and care about these injustices to men?
To those complaining that a paternity test would create distrust in a couple, that is not true at all if the tests are mandated because it's not the father who is requesting it. In fact, they would only serve to build trust because the father would always know he is the real father and have no reason to doubt his wife / baby mamma.
To those claiming it is an invasion of privacy, it is an invasion only in the same sense that enforcing any other law is. That's an absurd argument against fighting crime.
This should be a no-brainer to anyone who cares about equal rights and justice for both sexes. But it's sadly no surprise that more than half of women do not care about "equality" unless it benefits them.
@Moose304 I agree with that, but I'm not sure what your position is on the issue. Can your elaborate?
Anon... YES! Women need to be held accountable! We give women the accountability of six year olds but yet they want all the power they can get. Absurd!
I think it’s a good rule for both parties tbh.
Some guys go years paying and investing emotionally in a child that’s not biologically theirs, whilst others miss out all together on an experience because another guy took his place unknowingly.
I believe it would also make women think twice about straying, or deliberately choosing an incorrect more “suitable guy” for his money, or because he would make a better farther than the actual dad.
Then you have the dead-beats who deny the paternity all together, to avoid child support.
It’s a win win on everybody’s account. Especially if the paternity checking price can start that low.
Shouldn't be mandatory because when someone gets married to a good virgin girl and the wife gets pregnant and deliver a baby who looks like his father than asking the wife if it's his kid is like a dagger stabbed in the woman's heart and such mistrust can lead to a divorce!
I believe that a paternity test should be mandatory if the woman sleeps with casual men and got pregnant out of the wedlock...
@TonyMetal___86 "A good Virgin girl", show me a western woman who meets that description. Also, which are there more of in the west, "good Virgin girls" or lying, cheating, whores?
Absolutely, I can't imagine what it must feel like caring for your child for 18 years, working hard to provide and caring for them only to find out that your wife banged some other guy and the child was never yours. It's one thing to adopt, it has already been established that your child isn't yours, and its another to be lied to by someone you trusted and would give your life for.
@letuswaltzforthedead. Thank you so much for your post!
I would have expected her to be throwing rocks at me 😂
@letuswaltzforthedead At the age of 17 you got more brains than many other pink users here older than you. Props to you for having the emotional intelligence to try and place yourself in the shoes of others. You've said it wonderfully. There is no bigger fear for a man to find out that the child he nurtered and was breaking his back for ended up never being his. Thank you for being open minded and thoughtful.
In my state, if a man and woman are married... and she gets pregnant, the father is automatically on the Childs birth certificate.
Even if he isn't actually the father, say she cheated... so when/if he finds out he isn't the father and files for divorce, he is now stuck with child support.
I'd say, if it was legally required at birth it would prevent that, or at least it should. Rather than have the 'husband' automatically be the father... how about see if he is actually the father first.
I know cheaters hate this idea though, cause they love their man and don't want him to find out, and they are okay with him raising a kid that he thinks is his, even if it isn't.
Oh, this is a hot button subject! Last year there was news out of the UK that almost a third of children born with the man listed as the father was in fact NOT the father. As DNA testing gets more and more common place I see no reason to not test before a man's name is placed on a birth document by administrative means. With copies of the testing made part of the document. Then in other situations, a Judge can do it. I think it is VITAL that when a child is born that their biological parents are part of their birth records for medical reasons later on. The trust argument goes away when the process of DNA testing is mandatory and done by the hospital BEFORE the documents are sent to the government that handles vital stats. Does paternity fraud happen? YES, it does! I know a man that lives in Williamsburg Virginia that has recovered close to $25,000 from a man that got his wife pregnant and she baby trapped him. It's about accountability and I see NOTHING wrong with that!
I just noticed the asker made an update questioning why some men are not wanting these tests. the answer to this is simple. It is twofold though. First, there are some folks male and female that detest anything to do with accountability for their actions. Then last, there is a term for men who hump and dump. They are called "Chad and Tyrone" In most cases, this is the men that make these babies. Of course, they don't want mandatory testing. It holds them accountable.
I honestly don't understand why some women are against this unless they have something to hide. If they have nothing to hide then they have nothing to worry about. What breaks my heart the most is kids not knowing who their real father is and fathers not knowing they have a kid. That's just wrong.
Anon. Yes! Bravo!
Considering that up to 20% or more fathers are unknowingly raising children that aren't theirs I would say definitely mandatory. Or at the very least the mother should not be permitted to stop it. In France a man can go to prison for getting a DNA test without the consent of the mother.
Such matters need not involve the government fir our iwn protection
However of course a man should be allowed to test it on his own. I quite personally want to give a shit if the man went behind my back and tested my child hella being a waste of a hundred and something dollars but hey he chose to waste it will come back with the correct results 99.99% the father whatever if thats what he needs thats what he needs. Now it would only be laughable if my son's father attempted such a thing since my son is a replica minus the gray eyes and he has my lips but that's about it everything else looks as if he was cloned from his father
But I wouldbt be opposed if his father wanted to do something like that then he can go ahead and do it
Lol I get that. It's just sad that a staggering percentage of men are living a lie.
Yes very true but there might be a few who may not want the truth...
I've heard of men refusing a dna test not wanting the truth because they'll love the child.
But either way I don't believe law should interfere.
And any man who feels he must have one should be granted one.
@meetkitty123 "Such matters need not involve the government for our own protection"... Seriously? The government gets "involved" by forcing the man to pay child support. If a man has a child with a woman (never not married, never having lived together) he is forever subject to domestic violence laws, putting him at her mercy.
Also, if you want to crush a man to his very lowest point, tell him a child is his, let him bond with the child, than let him find out the child is not his. This is the single worst thing, beyond cheating, beyond violence, beyond generally cruel treatment; that a woman can do to a man. We have all kinds of protections for women but ZERO for men, why is that?
@meetkitty123 If a man wants to be cucked, that's his choice. There are bigger issues. If the man's insurance has to pay for all the child's expenses, the man should have to adopt the child. Also, someday the child might want to know who his/her real father is.
Sure.
Just gives women the right without any hassle of calling the police because the loser won't get lost, suing him for damages, etc., to throw a cheating boyfriend, fiance or husband out on their ass when the cheap hoe they were screwing says she's pregnant & guess what buddy boy you're the father.
Anon... absolutely, let's have full accountability.
This one is for the women who are against it:
What if the nurse made a mistake and switched babies? Would you not want the assurance that its yours? Testing for paternity will solve both issues.
Women don't tend to see the issue men have with fear of the child not being their own since the child comes out of the mother so maternity is always assured.
Do you know in Europe what the odds are on average that the child is not yours? Close to 4%.
So why the worry?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
What about those of us in the states?
Also what about the 4%? Aren't their livelihoods worth consideration? Besides for the most part it only hurts the guilty parties
@crossdressingrihno I don't know the number in the US.
But sure those are worth considering, so make tests available to any that asks for them. Make it mandatory sounds like an imposition from the government and not letting people chose.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 The cuck is back.
Hey! Didn't saw you in a while. So you are for forcing people to take a medical test?
Let me put here something I posted in another comment...
"there a study made on the odds a man has of rasing a child that is not his own.
You might think this study could not be reliable or bias. Well in this case this is done in literally every country in the European Union. Do you know what the average was? 3. something % don't remember exactly it was close to 4%.
Why am I going to worry for 4%?"
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
A paternity test could help those 4% of people know their wife cheated on them an that their raising someone else’s child. This could save a innocent man from an unnecessary child support battle. This could also help a child find their genetic father so they can grow up knowing who their dad is.
What does it cost a wife who didn’t cheat? Just a light swabbing in the mouth with a tiny little piece of cotton on a stick. What an absolutely horrendous thing!
Correction to my previous statement. The mother isn’t the one whom needs the swabbing. It’s the father. I had a bit of confusion between multiple thoughts.
@crossdressingrihno it's not that the test itself is a horrible thing to do. It's about people having agency with their own body.
Let's say it's mandatory. I can promise many MANY women who didn't cheat, will refuse to do it. Why? For the obvious reason that is an insult to their integrity (again, regardless if they cheated or not it is) and, most importantly, a violation of their body autonomy.
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The man and the baby are the ones who get swabbed. Babies get plenty of shots that I’m sure they don’t like so I’m sure a cotton swab isn’t too bad and people rarely give a rats ass to what the man wants anyways. As for the woman’s dignity? Doubt it’s any worse than a check up and besides it’s like anyone is specifically questioning them as though they specifically cheated.
@crossdressingrihno The issue is it being mandatory. And vaccines don't just help you, also help the ones around you. That is why non vaccinated children are a danger to others and some schools don't even allow them. It's a completely different issue.
Let's say you didn't raped anyone. But you are accused of it by a young boy. And you are forced to take a test to see if your semen matches the one found on the kid. You didn't do anything, but you got accuse of it. The test will be simple, doesn't matter. It will be an unpleasant experience, regardless of you are lying or not. The issue is again not the test. It's the situation and what it implies.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 In the US, especially among certain ethnicities, the paternity fraud runs as high as 30%.
The newborn undergoes a battery if tests at birth, a cheek swab is hardly intrusive.
Too bad people care more about a mandatory swabbing of the cheek than they do the lives and freedoms of that 30%
@crossdressingrihno Agreed. There is no defense, at all, against mandatory paternity testing.
No GOOD reason.
Yeah some people may see it as the government invading their privacy and personal affairs. That said the government does that already.
What ethnicities would those be?
Are they going to be the ones that are mostly socially excluded? Live in poverty and social neighborhoods separated from the rest of the community?
Those ones?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
And if it is?
That would just support our point more. Why would we want a impoverished man to to be forced to fund a child that isn’t even his? Seems pretty messed up doesn’t it?
He’s already got struggles so I don’t think he needs more.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8
Here’s some things I know about you.
#1 you don’t care about the men and their problems and we can tell because your pushing back on a problem that plagues the men of our country and comes back to haunt us and destroy families.
You don’t care about the children since you don’t even want them to know who their own father is.
You don’t care about misfortunate communities since you don’t even care about the financial struggles of the men in those communities. Yet pretend to care in order to make some almost completely invalid arguments.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 what does being "socially excluded, living in poverty?" Have to do with morality and the decision to commit a horrible deception?
@crossdressingrihno you are confusing things.
Listen carefully. Me saying "people should not be forced to undergo a paternity test" is not me saying "a man should be forced to raise a child that is not his". Different, very different, statements.
If any man wants to have a paternity test I agree, 100%, that he should be allowed to. Have that into law. That any man if he so wishes, should have the right to test that.
But to force it into people, 100% of the time, regardless of their wishes, that I am against.
See the difference now?
@crossdressingrihno make no mistake I do care, but the solutions that I see are different than the solutions that you see.
One of the first things I did here was talking to an angry incel who was crying all over the place about black and Arab guys taking all the girls. I did tried to befriend him and talk to him about it. Trying to get him to see where he was wrong. Got him to get a job. Ice cream vendor but it's something.
I have nothing against children knowing who their father is, like I explained above.
If you care about men's health start with their mental health and the conditions of those communities.
For example, in this site I see many people either trashing single mothers or deadbeat father's. Do you know where most of them are? It's also where most criminality is. It's also where people have less access to education, healthcare and cultura.
It's proven, across the board, in any county, regardless of race, that isolating a community filled with people from a poor background and put them all in a stray neighborhood originates drugs, violence and all sorts of social problems.
Do you want to actually help? Start by talking about providing proper social aid and much better urban planning. That is what will have the most impact in the communities that you claim to help. Not a forced paternity test
But not everyone who is being cheated on knows/is aware of it. With that in mind it not being mandatory is functionally the same thing as saying they should be forced to have a kid that isn’t theirs.
That kind of logic only works in the assumption that the person being cheated on is aware of or is suspicious of their wife cheating.
It’s better they find out about the cheating when the child is born than 6 years later.
@KrakenAttackin because people "socially excluded, living in poverty" are where this happens the most. Still rate as it is. Along with several other problems like I just said.
I already advocate for the poor neighborhoods. I live in one I see the shit every day. Do you think I don’t know? The only reason I don’t bring it up is because we’re not talking about that.
@crossdressingrihno not at all. You have that option. You know that you have that option. So chose. You don't have to think that you being cheated on to ask for one. It's your call.
You talked about a men being forced to provide to a child that is not his. Well of he doesn't want to stay with the mother or the child, he can chose to do it.
If he does want it, he can chose to do it also.
@crossdressingrihno you mentioned "unfortunate communities". And the issue we are talk about is more prevalent in them. So we are talking about them.
I went to the worst high school in my city, and one of the worst middle schools in my city.
I live in one of the worst neighborhoods in my city and when I was in middle school, one of my friends brothers got shot to death near where I lived.
If I wanna look at a bunch of people who are broke with no hope and almost nothing going for them, I need only open my front door and look out.
My city is also filled with crazy people because the largest mental asylum in the state is here and they keep letting people out every day people who were not fixed.
People die where I live and it ain’t uncommon.
@crossdressingrihno I am sorry to hear that. I really think that society would massively benefit in putting serious efforts in improving the situation of places like the one where you live.
Uh, I see where you're going but I disagree. The reason people want paternity testing is so they can work with the system by the system's current rules that say the dad needs to pay child support. So the dad is wondering, 'is this really my kid or not'. But if we go back to traditional ways it doesn't matter cause then it's 100% okay for a parent to disown a kid or reject a kid. There's no obligation to support a kid regardless of the circumstances and I support going back to the old ways in many areas.
I'd be okay with it, but I'd rather it be legally tied to child support or something. The test is not invasive, so why not? I don't think most couples would need it that information, but if it was a legal matter, and just one of the many myriad of tests that happen with childbirth, I don't think I'd even notice.
Mandatory in all countries where there is a legal responsibility from the father. Otherwise the legal responsibility should be forfeited. Ie a woman should have the bad choice to go out and get a kid without involving the father. No need for a sperm bank.
Yep, I do..
That way, once it's proven he's the father, he'll do the right thing and step up and take 50% responsibility for something he's 50% responsible for creating whether he's with the "mom" or not.. And will take away the "how do I know it's mine" off the table...
They call it pro-life and pro-choice but quite frankly both those labels are misleading.
If you decide to legalize abortion either way someone's losing out on a choice if both parents need to agree to an abortion then as long as one partner disagrees the other person's choices invalid. If only one of the parents is needed to have an abortion then you're just completely skipping out on the other parent entirely which is also a lack of choice.
On the same end there are risks for being "pro-life" such as the mother dying or the child not making it anyways because of other complications.
Calling yourself pro-life pro-choice is misleading to say the least. Plus there are people out there who like to go playing with semantics. Such as there was an argument on whether or not you can be pro-life but also believe in the death penalty because being pro-life means your pro all life they say even though that isn't necessarily the spirit of the pro-life movements and the name is just misleading.
@crossdressingrihno why said I'm neither🤷🏼♀️
@crossdressingrihno oh and I'm for the death penalty when warranted.. If you take someone's life maliciously, then the cost should be your life. Instead of supposedly rehabilitating them and letting them out to kill again
@Brainsbeforebeauty and every spongy forehead should be 100% bitten 😬😬
@TonyMetal___86 you have a SpongeBob fetish🤔🤣🤣
Nope cause spongebob have 2 rabbit teeth but i like girls who have rabbit teeth 🤣🤣
I'll answer this question first and say yes it should be mandatory.
@hlopinionated_ For blocking me, I will just say it here. It seems to me you don't know what "ignore" means either. I mean im not the one who is trying to run away. You are. So why am I the one who should stop? LOL. And yes resort to that cliche "block because i don't know how to ignore" tactic. by the way that's a self solving problem for me. Because I love it with morons block me so I don't have to deal with them.
@KrakenAttackin I've actually accomplished something like letting that moron block me. And I don't mind because in the end, I eat pigs anyways.
@Aiko_E_Lara. She will fight to the end for her "right" to abuse men and whore around.
Honestly I don't think there's a reason to.
That's just ridiculous I'm sorry do you really want to give the government that much power to the fact that now they're going to have everyone's DNA? Shoot no need for fingerprints that would be a law that would just open up a Pandora's box the government having every single person DNA ever born or whoever has had children not a good idea. It just seems wrong imagine the things they could do or attempt to do the odd experimentations... No thank you.
it's kind of ridiculous besides nowadays it's very simple just to go to Walgreens grab the swab swab the child's mouth swab you're own with no one ever even finding out you send it secretly to a lab (hope that they're an honest company when you select the box that says no they cannot sell your information) and you get the results in a few weeks at the privacy of you own home.
@meetkitty123 Legislation could handle this by restricting dissemination of the data, and numbers could be assigned rather than names.
Don't you agree that mandatory paternity tests would be a good deterrent against people being unfaithful and trying to pass the child off as someone else's?
I honestly don't know
We're living in such a modern age time that honestly a woman can't hide it anyways I don't see the reason for a law However I'm not in agreeance with what the other user said about France and it being illegal for a man to seek a paternity test without the woman's knowledge I cannot see how that would be going against anyones rights. The way I see it woman shouldn't care if the guy wants a paternity test if she's got nothing to worry about
Besides its
Honestly very easy to get a paternity test I didn't have any issue when there was a man insisting he was the father to my child and I was insisting that he was not
I went to Walgreens bought the kit and then paid for the laboratory price separate
Now getting the guy to take the paternity test was a bitch he was quite arrogant
But honestly the good thing about the Walgreens test you don't need both parents so a man can do the test on his own he doesn't need the woman's DNA
Now explaining it to the child without letting the child know what I was doing was a little harder so I bought the family a whole bunch of 23andMe
The child simply assumed it had something to do with the 23and me
And the results was exactly how I said it was going to be the man claiming that my child was his was not the father
@meetkitty123 But women can and do hide paternity fraud. Here is what I posted above:
There are really THREE victims to paternity fraud: 1) the man who is paying for, bonding with, raising a child who is not his. 2) The REAL father who doesn't know he has a child and isn't given the opportunity to be the child's father. 3) THE CHILD who never knows his/her ACTUAL FATHER.
One crime by a selfish and deceptive woman, three victims.
@meetkitty123 When you go to court with a broken chain of custody of that material THAT is going to be a problem.
Mandatory implies you'd be forced to take it whether you wanted or needed paternity information or not, so no. There are a lot of guys and women who are well aware of who they are sleeping with so mandating this, I'm sure at cost, would be a waste of time and money.
Legally speaking, at least in my state (I had to look this one up), a mother or father can request a paternity test be done in court. Over the counter paternity tests are not admissible. The tests must be performed by a lab as mandated by the court and one must have consent to do so, meaning you can't just swab the child or the father against their will and submit that as evidence. If the father refuses or is unavailable, a court can still run a DNA test with closest match relatives to determine paternity.
There is literally no valid reason not to support mandatory routine paternity testing. It's extremely inexpensive and very accurate now. There would be no hard feelings between the mother and father because it's mandatory, not at the request of the father (unless the mother is lying or truly doesn't know who the father is). Privacy is not an issue if the results are kept confidential, which should be perfectly acceptable.
Fathers absolutely deserve to know whether they are truly the father of the child, and children deserve to know who their real father is. Anyone against this is either an idiot or a woman who wants to retain the ability to lie and defraud men into providing for a child who isn't theirs or denying the father the right to know he has a son or daughter.
Nah. We should just believe women like the leftists say.
After all, EVERY woman is a paragon of virtue and far be it from ANY woman to ever slut it up and get knocked up and then trick some guy into raising that baby.
Believe women!
First of all, all white people who are males with faggoty names like Keegan and Connor and Cooper, and Aiden should be forced at gun point to change their names and their parents should be burned at the stake for trying to feminize their kids with androgynous and yet faggoty sounding names. They better make them kids play football not soccer after giving them such gay names. Gotta toughen those little MF’s up.
So no black woman would ever try to trick you into being baby daddy?
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