Once a republican becomes president in 24, there will be raids against Hillary, Harris, Biden, Obama, etc
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You have to have probable cause and the FBI had none. They broke Trumps 4th Amendment rights...
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Although there is much that as of yet remains unknown, superficially this appears to have been what the FBI declared it to be, i. e, the search for documents that were classified but that Mr. Trump kept in his personal possession upon leaving office. Strictly speaking, as the Mr. Trump had the authority to declare documents classified or not until 12 noon EST, January 20, 2021, this would not necessarily have been illegal.
However, if some of the document's status has not been affirmed as non-classified by the time Mr. Trump left office, it is not impossible that President Biden could have declared them to be so. Further, Mr. Trump had already handed over 15 boxes to the National Archives at the request of that body. Thus it would appear that the former President had already been cooperating with the government at the time of the raid.
That being the case, the FBI raid was, at the least, of dubious necessity. Further, its' timing - interestingly coinciding with the anniversary of Richard Nixon's resignation from the Presidency in 1974 - looks decidedly pointed and political. The message being further emphasized by the White House announcing that President Biden (nor Vice-President Harris) had been given advanced notice of the raid. The law that such raid had to be approved by the Director of the FBI and the Attorney General with the approval of a warrant by the court of jurisdiction. Thus the President (and VP) could claim plausible deniability which, in context must be viewed as all too convenient.
Finally, given that former President Trump had cooperated with previous requests from the National Archives, and given that normally a subpoena would first be issued, the situation looks, at a minimum, to have been designed to draw maximum attention to the event. Of course, the reasons for this can only be speculated on, but in recent years, the FBI - and the Department of Justice generally - have come to appear to be an entity unto themselves with a decided bias against Mr. Trump at the very least, and possibly for the Democrats generally. (All of this I say as no fan of Mr. Trump, though I am a Republican.)
See also the blatant cover-up of Hunter Biden's nefarious business dealings (particularly with China) as well as his consorting with prostitutes and use of illegal drugs. See also the FBI's denial that the lap top computer that revealed these dealings was real. See also the failure of the DOJ to charge Hillary Clinton with criminal activity when she refused to hand over classified materials and her subsequent deletion and "bleaching" of that material.
Finally, there is at least some suspicion that the raid, although nominally about former President Trump's retention of classified documents, may actually have been a cover to find documents or other evidence related to the January 6th riots at the Capitol. The hearings that have been held have so far turned up very little against Mr. Trump and liberals in Congress have been putting enormous pressure on the Attorney General to bring charges against the President. Thus the raid may have been an effort to "stumble upon" incriminating evidence related to former President Trump's involvement with January 6.
All this taken together, the bottom line is that the raid on Mr. Trump's home, given those previous circumstances, will not likely have its intended effect. The overall net effect being that trust in the unbiased rule of law has been eroded. Indeed, at bare minimum, the raid will simply exacerbate the populist trend in politics and destroy the already waning public faith in the established institutions of government.
This can lead to no good outcome. As the 19th century British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (Lord Beaconsfield) famously said, "A nation's liberties are embodied in its' institutions. The march of intellect is not enough." Would that the leadership of the FBI, and the Department of Justice generally, have thought of that before they decided to lob this particular legal hand grenade.
Sage,
Imagine if you decided to devote your life to being an FBI agent. Your loved ones would most likely try and talk you out of it. But you are bright-eyed, and bushy-tailed. You don't believe them. You just want to make America a better place. If anyone can do this, YOU can.
Then you see the dumbest human on the planet getting a record number of votes.
This idiot is obviously siding with China, at every step. Anyone can see this.
But the idiots can't see this, because..."orange man bad"
No surprise, they found nothing useful. The warrant was issued based on butthurt, not based on probable cause. Everything they were claiming to be looking for was confirmed already in the archives.
The judge who signed off on the raid is a pedophile, with ties directly going back to Epstein and the Lolita Express.
The raid isn't just about "Get Trump" for the heck of it. It's not inherently about screwing America over directly. That's secondary. It's not even about ruining his election bid directly.
It's about punishing Trump for shutting down that one port in San Fran. It's about the adrenochrome.
You mess with Big Adrenochrome, nothing is off the table or too absurd when they seek revenge.
It is known that Trump removed documents to Mar a lago that were not to be removed when he left the White House. All such documents are the property of the people NOT Donald Trump. It is also known that he would tear papers up, flush them, he was even observed EATING them during his tenure.
His behavior has had to be very extreme indeed for the government to seek these kinds of actions against a former president. I would call trying to overturn the results of a free and fair election pretty extreme.
You can also bet that every t has been crossed and every i has been dotted in every proof and bit of documentation necessary to make sure this action is legal.
If Mr. Trump doesn't like this kind of attention perhaps he should have accepted the decision of the people, conceded defeat like everyone else for over 200 years running, and tried again in 2024. I would also suggest that he buckle up because there will likely be more of this.Curious what the reason was behind the raid initially. Does anyone have this information? When searching it gives me multiple different reasons and it's hard to pinpoint what the actual reason behind it was.
As a whole though, I feel the government is scrambling and grasping at anything they can at this point. They have been doing this for years. They so desperately want to prove they are right and gather dirt on people that they will do everything they possibly can to justify ignorance. It's on the other end of the spectrum as well. When a republican is elected, they go after democrats and start bashing them in every single way possible. When a democrat is elected, they do the same shit to republicans. It's a never ending situation.
Yes, I know. And I think it was wrong for them to do that unannounced. That sort of thing can be done if the person is suspected of holding weapons of mass destruction or something like that. But a box of papers? Come on. Just knock on the front door with a legal search warrant like in most cases.
There is also an interesting piece written in Deseret News about the potential aftermath:
This is just another over step from the democratic party to try and tarnish and ruin Trump’s political career completely.
They tried impeaching him multiple times and failed because all their claims were overtly false.
Now they are using a government organization to confiscate documents belonging to him and potentially alter them to create “artificial” evidence to accuse him of the crimes they are desperately trying to accuse him of so his ability to run again for president is relinquished.
And before anyone calls me a trump supporter, I’m not. I did not vote for him, Hilary or Biden.
I love my country, I want the people of my country to live free from all government oppression and corruption. Unfortunately I have to say it but the democratic party has completely gone tyrannical.Trump believes right.
He's a major threat to their agenda because he doesn't back down and he can't be bought.
If he wasn't running again they wouldn't be wasting government resources on this stupid witch hunt lol. Give me a break.
If he wins, the first thing they'll do is start working on impeachment #3
Whether you like Trump or not, you can't possibly believe this shit is actually a legitimate investigation lol
But I'm done defending him. If you haven't caught onto it all by now, you're a moron and you never will. Just keep swallowing the spoon fed horse shit from CNN and cry as we all live better with him in officeTrump has said many times that those who invoke the 5th are as food as guilty; that if innocent, there's no reason to invoke it. Yet he did, AND compared this to Watergate. I'm very interested to see how this plays out. And willing to bet he's gonna say 'I didn't say that'
Desperation is not a good look for the democrats. They will be toast in November.
Maybe they will find a couple of pairs of his dirty underwear that Biden wants to sniff.
This shit is hilarious. I leave the country for two weeks and all hell breaks loose. Remember this?
So much for democracy and the peaceful transfer of power...
Do you really think future presidents are going to so willing give up power peacefully knowing they may be treated like this?
Like it or not, unless the FBI is totally destroyed as to make future presidents incapable of such acts, the Federal Constitutional Republic will be destroyed by this kind of behavior.consider peter szturck's testimony we can get him even if we make it up... think of the whole russian thing being one lie and no substance at all... not even an apology... if you still believe in this regime then your one stupid idiot... maybe you want to live in a socialist country i don't know...87,000 new irs agents can't be a good thing
My thoughts? Lol -- they didn't get anything out of their charade "the hearings" other than showing the whole country what an absolute flock of morons they are, so now they pull this stunt. It's ridiculous and I think Republicans will vote for him even more now. This whole deal is only firing 🔥 up Republicans and strengthening peoples' support for Trump. We'll have an ultra Maga 2024 ... a serious red wave!!!
It’s not that the far left don’t want him to run for President again but all Americans want him to be held accountable for his actions. Including illegal handling of confidential documents, inciting a riot on Jan 6th, molesting children with his best friend Jeffery Epstein, etc.
Well, that much is certainly true; the far-Left don't want him to run again. What I don't understand is why those who hate both D. Trump and their own country so much don't just catch a one-way flight to Communist China. Aren't they communists? Don't they want to live in a nation that doesn't tolerate free speech? Aren't they just stooges and trolls for Xi anyway?
I always liked Trumps way of speaking and style. I loved his bullying behavior. And how he told off the leftards.
But when I learned he was a Freemason, AKA. And Illuminati puppets. Just like the left. I learned he’s in the same team as all of them. He’s there doing all their gay f-ing hand signs and such.
It’s all a stage. And he used to be an actor.
there's NO HOPE. WE THEE PEOPLE ARE THE JOKE.
Pure politics. So he supposedly had government paperwork at his personal home. Probably every president in history has done that.
But when Hilary not only had classified information at her home, she even sent it over an unsecure network, the liberal media looked the other way.
Doesn’t matter. If Drumpf never did anything wrong, he’d still be Satan incarnate to the left. That’s just how they are.
If Drumpf was caught on camera skinning babies alive and eating them, his followers would still swear he’s god’s gift. That’s just how they are.
They’re all a bunch of hypocrites and liars, left and right both. If I had the Infinity Gauntlet, I’d rid the world of all of those idiots.I think if Biden's presidency had average or higher ratings they wouldn't need this distraction. But they're playing with fire because if too many people think the system can't be trusted then people will just pick and choose which laws to follow which can spiral out of control. The country is on the edge and most people don't even realize it.
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