Its at least debatable. If we’re afraid we stay in line…
Arkansas Sheriff Deputies enforcing the law.
I love when I see this meme from right wingers. #tablesturned
Its at least debatable. If we’re afraid we stay in line…
Arkansas Sheriff Deputies enforcing the law.

Probably, I find police fairly useless... call 911 and someone will be out soon as possible, an hour later they show up and if the emergency isn't still going on, they get mad at me like it was a prank call.
Granted that is more city cops, country deputies are awesome, but can take up to 90 minutes to show up.
I did once have another driver hit me in a construction zone and keep on going, I got their plate # and reported it, the police showed up to arrest me... so yeah, I don't call police for shit anymore unless I need to. The other driver had two people in it and they claimed I hit them. Had I not called the police they would not have been able to lie and do that and the police figured, two against one... they must be right and I am wrong. Yet had I been the one to hit them, why would I have called the police? idiot just didn't like me, probably cause the others were white.
Never had violence from them, but then again I don't fight back or resist arrest but another time was arrested and got the county jail where they finger printed me and then said, I was the wrong person and let me go... which I had to find a ride back to my car 30 miles away. They could of at least given me a ride back for their own dumb mistake.
Turns out someone thought I was someone else with a warrant and reported me, but the officer was too lazy to check it out, figured he'd let the jail do it.
That said I do support them, better to have them than not.
I have had bad experiences with them as well. I honestly don`t trust them anymore and will never call them for anything. But i would love to get the law to change in Canada to let me carry a gun. At least i can try to defend myself. Cops always arrive too late anyways.
@VforVindication Especially where I live in Rural America, huge county bigger than many states on the east coast, that the county sheriff and deputies have to patrol, hence depending on where they are and what they are doing, can take hours.
The highway patrol helps but they are in the same situation.
Exactly.
Honestly, given what has been seen time and time again with cops, I'd say cops are already chronically afraid.
Every black kid is a murderer with a gun in their eyes. Anyone who knows their rights and stands without fear is horrifying to the point of making cops shoot unarmed civilians multiple times.
At this point, I think we can safely look at cops like rattlesnakes: they're more afraid of ordinary civilians than civilians are afraid of cops.
Cops are basically chihuahuas. Always afraid and think they should murder everything around them.
No no text to the first video so I have no idea, cops are suppose to there to enforce the law to any means necessary. I agree with the meme because we should fear government money isn’t the root of all evil it’s government. Government was the number 1 cause of death in the 20th century. “If men were angles we won’t need government if man where demons they we should fight them form forming a government.” John Madison since man is neither angles or demons we can’t trust man to form a government without becoming totalitarian angles or demons. Unless your an atheist so there no excuse for totalitarianism I do X so you do Y there is no Z so if it’s X (say right) or Y (say left) and there is no god then there is not no reason to be totalitarian either way. If your in the middle then either god nor government is reasonable which mean get rid of both
In theory, good citizens shouldn't be afraid of course, but most people are afraid for obvious reasons, almost anybody is uncorruptible and this goes for cops too, they have a, say, leverage because they have guns, are allowed to use it and may be a part of a system that lets them get away if they don't follow the law as they should. I'm not saying cops are worse than other professions, all are the same, there are bad people doing bad things in all the places, it's just that they influence directly life and death in a way we can see and feel, more than a politician for example, who can cause much more damage, but in a subtle and hideous way
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Law enforcement is there to protect government interests: The law. They have the resources and organization to coerce you to act a certain way. Yes, some law is based on things that are plain wrong; Murder, robbery, etc. Police are also there to protect the government when it is in the wrong. They say “actions have consequences”, but that’s only true for us, not them. I did 18 months without probable cause, just to be found totally innocent. I got no reimbursement, no apology. The alleged victim wasn’t punished for lying. Now somehow that’s justice. And if I inflicted my own consequences for wronging me, they’d retaliate. It’s not morals, it’s because they have more resources to coerce you.
Yesterday I saw a video of three agents beating up a guy they took down on the ground. One was doing the usual sitting on him. The one in front held the man by the neck, not to keep him down or in place, but to Punch Him Easier. He also grabbed that man's head and slammed it on the floor. And the third cop? Put his two hands on the man for support to easier wind up his leg to full force knee the man like it's a UFC match. It's only a few seconds long. From that alone it just doesn't look like some are at all qualified to be wearing that uniform.
We shouldn't be afraid of them and just respect them, but those corrupts ones have got to go.
Don't be. Together we are strong. Divided (like, personal beliefs) will be our downfall. That's the whole point of all of this.
While many argue over gender, religious beliefs, wealth, gang, political choice, race, state, country, language, etc. None of them will realize that we have a common foe. The parasite of an enemy. One that we all stop and wonder. Who the fuk controls them? So don't be afraid, they are more afraid than us. Because within them, theirs our own children willing to turn the barrel on them. And they know it.
I've never been afraid of the police. I've been arrested many time. I suppose I know the secret trick to not getting beat up. I will even divulge that secret for free. You cooperate. I know I know, that's not something that everyone can figure out, but it's true. Cooperate. Be polite. Say yes sir and yes ma'am. It's pretty damn simple but some people just can't figure it out.
Without seeing and knowing more I can't really comment one way or the other. I just know that in most of the videos I see it would not have happened if the person had cooperated from the start.
Philando Castille - watch the vid of the shooting. www.youtube.com/watch
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The dude did the right thing by telling the cops he had a gun. But he should have kept his hands completely away from it, like put his hand on the dash, then asked what the cop wanted him to do. You do NOT tell a cop you have a gun and them keep your hands anywhere near the gun. This should be common sense.
You are also cherry picking.
Fear of the LORD is the sustaining Fear that naturally and morally shows itself throughout Society. We are a Society without Fear of the LORD and it shows through each societal layer..
The Fear of the LORD (YHWH) is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding (Proverbs 9:10). And, “the fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instructions (Proverbs 1:7).”
I literally know hundreds of cops. I never knew anyone that ever went out on the street with the intention of shooting somebody. 99.9% of them want to serve their communities and keep the peace. I did nit know what the story was in the video but most people who get a beating from the cops usually deserve it. Many more that deserve it do not get it.
"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people", isn't something that only "right-wingers" believe; it's what all of us who believe in freedom, justice and just plain old common sense and decency believe. Is this a sentiment that you actually disagree with?
No don’t be afraid. Don’t do crimes and you’ll be fine. If the govt went downhill people as a country could overtake the police with their hunters and their smarts.
Just be brave and fight for the well-being of the general public.
You’ll be good 👍
Law enforcement always look at you as if afraid, until you ease their minds. You can see the unease in their eyes. Guarded. Experience. So the feeling is mutual from their standpoint. It makes me wonder what the exact behavior this man performed to cause that access reaction in these men.
No you shouldn’t be afraid of cops You should be Afraid of Having Weak Atrophied muscles.
If your afraid of muscular Atrophy then you’ll workout and if some cop decides to become a Tyrant and lay hands on you then you can Kick his or all of there asses.
After all If you got enough muscle You could hit somebody 1 time and they would die.
If a cop is willing to Kill you Or Cause you irreversibly emotional physical damage I call that I thought he was going to Kill me.
Chimpanzees do Push-ups
And there really freaking Strong watch the video of chimpanzee doing push-ups.
https://youtu.be/_13RyFhjgjk
Here’s a lizard doing push-ups
https://youtu.be/9PlM12Qxzlg
I have a question.
If a cop asks you for an ID, why not just show the ID and be done with it? I have seen several bodycam footages that escalates because the cop just asks for an ID and the person "exercises his rights" not to give an ID.
What is the downside of just showing the cop your ID and just being done with the predicament?
The "good guys" huh? Police departments in this country hire demons to patrol our streets.
Oh boy just imagine all the crimes cops did in secret and how they abused the citizenry and violated their constitutional rights pre cell phone cameras.
Then how about you be the hero to save the day and start policing yourself
The police department is for protection of innocent people and maintaining order. If you are a law abiding citizen then you have no reason to be afraid of the police. It's wrongdoers who have a reason to be afraid.
No, and I do not think that is how it is supposed to work. Sadly, many cops themselves have admitted they view us as enemies, which is why they are so hostile to us and any attempts to reign in their power over us. They can and do get away with things most nobody else could dream of, from murder and framing people, to rape, blackmail and even destroying your homes.
do you know what happened before all that ass kicking?
they would have at least one excuse to go bananas like that... lol
ah yes... America
it doesn't matter why things happen
only how they look like and how we can represent them...
I know cops and also military who have done the same
in the case of the cops, they arrested a known rapist and sexual attacker that had gotten out of jail on a technicality early (not from prison, a jail) and when they arrested him a second time again, trying to rape a person... the cops did kick the criminals' ass out of frustration, was it wrong? sure, it is wrong and it is against the law but there were reasons or excuses for them to do it
in the case of the military... they detained a very well known group of criminals that had kidnapped and tortured and murdered people before, but again, because of technicalities and a corrupted system the criminals got out of jail early and guess what... they were out to do the same things, so when the military men captured again on the same shit... they also kicked their asses very badly and one of them even got killed (the leader) was this bad? yes it was bad and also illegal but as you see, there were reasons behind it or excuses, if you want to call it that way
now, I am in no way defending what the cops did, not at all... and I am not saying that the would have been justified on kicking someones' ass like that
I was just curious about what lead to the beating which is obviously very blatant and open and also in the middle of American, I was just wondering what set of circumstances lead to this situation
I didn't mention anything at all about rights...
I just asked if you knew what happened before this couple of video recorded, lol
"for no reason"
see, that's where any healthy discussion or opportunity for actual solutions to problems... will end
"for no reason" is just a terrible approach towards understanding
it only shows you want drama and controversy for the sake of drama and controversy
Well sometimes you can view a 3 minute clip and make a judgement call. Their suspect could be a Ted Bundy-esk serial killer who murdered all three of their wives.
Yet its still wrong to beat the suspect relentlessly like that. there's “no reason” to beat a suspect when he’s not fighting back.
there are reasons for sure, they might not be valid nor fair ones... but there are definitely reasons
legality is subjective...
police could shoot a person 137 times over and after the police's messed up actions
and none of them could be legally viable to face prosecution
Actually its not. Legality is probably the most objective ideas in society. Its literally scribed as whats legal and whats not. Thats object 100%.
Your opinion about the law is subjective. And the law can be wrong, like slavery or women’s suffrage. But the law is the law. Objective.
it's like you've never heard about judges, juries and trials... lol
or SCOTUS... which will literally are there for interpretation of the law...
and the very trendy nowadays dissenting OPINIONS
no is not... the moment you make something a law, it turns into subjective by default
because it is SUBJECTED to our discretion, and then to interpretation of circumstances... which is exactly why you have a judge, lol
but anyway, let's not make it about semantics now
POV means point of view... of which you will always have many different ones, which makes it automatically subjective to the POINT OF VIEW exactly
you see... pretty much anybody can read a dictionary
but critical thinking, not everyone has that... unfortunately
which again, that is why you have lawyers, judges to INTERPRET LAW
it is not objective, because it came from subjectivity...
and because it is subjected to many clauses and circumstances as well
law will not apply the same to every individual nor every circumstance because it is not objective
you can pretend it is, but then you are just being simplistic about it
like a kid, with a dictionary
no, but that is not what I said...
you are just again being simplistic about all of the things I've mentioned, and why I've mentioned, and how I've mentioned them...
now, you are not being objective there... lol
you answered yourself right there thanks...
"law is SUPPOSED to be objective' so thank you again
law is SUPPOSED to be, but in reality it is not...
and that is precisely why those cops representing the :LAW and order that is SUPPOSED to protect and be of service to us, have actually SUBJECTED that guy to a beating, lol...
wrong... laws are not written for everyone
there's always a limiting frame to them
even when written for the people that apply, it might not apply the same to all of them, therefore... subjective by principle and definition as well
We SHOULDN'T be. The fact is that they way they're utilized and trained is a major failing. We need to revamp our law enforcement industry. They can be a vehicle for good and peace, they're not acting in that way. There's the problem.
Cops should never be Trusted they use deceitful tactics to get information to hold against you they aren't your friends. They are their to enforce the law which is often not just.
I agree with that last meme, the government should be afraid of us not the other way around. Fuck pigs.
With your behavior, everyone should be terrified of you.
Which means you should be terrified of everyone, which you already demonstrated you are.
Unless you gang bang and nig you have nothing to be afraid of.
People should not be afraid of cops, but criminals who resist arrest should be.
Obviously not. But your question is like asking if children should be afraid of their mothers because some of them drown their children in the bathtub. Don't be an idiot.
Only problem is OTHER mothers call those mothers out for drowning their babies, instead of mindlessly defending them for doing it.
@LindsayR07 Right, because no one has been calling out the cops for this shit. Oh wait, tons of people have been calling them out and pushing for them to be defunded. And there are efforts underway in every major city across the US to reform police policies, procedures, training and applicable laws. I guess you were wrong.
The difference, of course, is that no one is saying all moms are shit because of the tiny handful who murder their children. Mothers shouldn't kill their children, and police shouldn't use violent force against a suspect unless they have to in order to protect themselves or others, but the vast majority of mothers and police are doing a great job and deserve our gratitude and respect. The only people saying otherwise are just assholes.
I didn't say they don't get called out, but they dont get called out by their own people, and they rarely see any real consequences. There's a difference.
@LindsayR07 "but they don't get called out by their own people" - This is false.
"and they rarely see any real consequences" - This is also false.
And I challenge you to provide any credible evidence to support either claim.
Being fired from their job got killing someone, retaining their pension, and then going to the next town over and getting the same job are not consequnces.
And I know a LOT of LEOs, they will bend over backwards to justify the shooting by an officer they have never met even as far as using the "well, he must have been up to no good because he was there" defense. I have only met ONE (out of around 70) who is even willing to consider that a shooting by a LEO might have been wrong and she is retired.
1% of LEOs even considering the potential wrongness of a killing by another LEO is NOT equivalent to easily 99% of mother's condemning a mother for drowning her baby.
You have made a false equivalency and I think you know that.
@LindsayR07 I asked for credible evidence and you've provided me nothing more than your personal opinions. Care to try again? I suspect not, because the credible evidence of the things you claim to be widespread does not exist.
I have LEOs in my family and know a lot of their fellow LEOs and their families. Have the things you're talking about happened? Sure. Are they common? Nope. The vast majority are good people and dedicated public servants who are out there doing good things every day.
I'm not going to bother digging up statistics for you, folks like you would then just say well they're skewed because I have these people in my family so I know better... You're too close to see the reality, sorry.
I'm done with this conversation, I have better things to do.
@LindsayR07 Yeah, don't bother because I've already studied all of them anyway. That's why I knew you would cop out (pardon the pun) because the reality is you and I both know you can't find the facts to support your claims.
Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on the facts, without your preconceived biases. As you are, you are not doing yourself or anyone else any favors.
If that guy was black you’d be speaking about police brutality.
Do what your told. You won’t get curb stomped. Simple to understand.
Yes, it makes sense to be afraid of armed criminals who act with impunity.
When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.
No one should be afraid of he police unless they are a criminal.
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If you are black? Watch yourself , driving while black? We all know.
There’s a lot of context missing here. What are they wailing on him for?
I don’t know man. You really couldn’t see if he had a knife in his hand or something, and he did appear to be trying to move around a bit
No we should not be afraid of cops. Most are good people doing their jobs. Thats like fearing all leftists after the Buffalo shooting.
I'd say cautious is a better word.
Nonsense. So much hyperbole, God help you if you ever face something like that for real.
Of course they aren't.
You're all in favor of gun control right?
It would lead to anarchy if the cops are attacked unprovoked. You should totally be allowed to defend yourself against cops especially with the shit that happened in the video you shown. If you can prove that the cops acted first when they try to confront you on a non-violent crime, you shouldn't be punished for that.
Cops is a show
No they are supposed to serve the community
Lol no
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