The "right to abortion" is in direct conflict to the "right to live" of the 30 human rights which makes the right to abortion actually illegal?

[RiseofArtemis]

Some laws are in direct conflict, and this would be one of them. Human rights are absolute and can't be changed so can someone explain how the right to abortion doesn't attack human rights. From my understanding it's a direct attack on the right to live for the unborn children.

State laws are not absolute and can be changed.

[UCrayCray]

At no other time do we force people to physically use their bodies to sustain the life of another. I have no right to your liver. Even if it means I will die, you can still say no to donating your liver to me.
That is your right. A right I, as a woman, should also have. Outlawing abortion says pregnant women don’t have that same right over their bodies that you have over yours.
Would you support mandatory organ donation?

[JohnK123]

I would support mandatory organ donations… after death ofc. There are plenty of people who die trying to find someone to donate a matching organ they need

[UCrayCray]

@JohnK123
I could get behind an opt-out rather than opt-in. I support organ donation, but won’t go so far as to making it mandatory.
The decision should alway rest with the owner of the body.

[JohnK123]

Ok but u can’t make a decision when ur deceased
And why have all ur organs when ur dead when u can save multiple lives

[CloudMassacre]

@JohnK123 you can’t make a decision before you’re born either

[JohnK123]

@CloudMassacre ya but u don’t even have organs when ur first developing

[CloudMassacre]

@JohnK123 you have a lot of stem cells though

[JohnK123]

@CloudMassacre ok but I’m talking about organs

[CloudMassacre]

@JohnK123 stem cells help with organs and medical research

[JohnK123]

@CloudMassacre ya but it helping with organs doesn’t mean organs are fully formed yet

[CloudMassacre]

@JohnK123 it can help heal people with fully formed organs live better lives for their already existent lives where they have experiences. Unlike a partly developed fetus stem cell blob

[JohnK123]

@CloudMassacre yeah hence stem cells don’t come into play until later in the development process

[NotTacocaT6969]

It’s also a crime against humanity to force a woman to undergo childbirth against her will.


State laws can be modified, but crimes against humanity cannot.


Add that to the list of conflicting laws.

[RiseofArtemis]

I've read through the human rights laws and there is nothing mentioned about it being illegal to force a woman to have a child.

[RiseofArtemis]

I mean to birth a child she doesn't want

[NotTacocaT6969]

The crimes against humanity are a separate list from rights and laws.

There are 11 official crimes against humanity and they are very important to know.

[mrwells15]

Definitionally, a fetus is not a human, it is a fetus. We can recognize that fetus’s are alive the same way we can recognize a dog is alive, but we don’t afford the same rights to dogs as we do humans.

[CloudMassacre]

I don’t really consider a proto human to be a person

[RiseofArtemis]

Babies are alive in the womb, no one can say when they go from not alive to alive. If people could pinpoint when a human is considered alive then it would be way easier to have abortions. A baby is a living being from the moment of conception which makes it a human being with all the rights already for it. Something that isn't alive cannot develop further.

[CloudMassacre]

Yeah, I never contended it wasn’t alive, I just said I don’t consider it a person