I don't know it depends on the person, but Black Lives Matter, and White Lives matter are both stupid, we all have equal rights now so All lives Matter, we’ll call it at that
Yes. White lives mattering is the literal societal standard already. That's why literal white mass shooters get taken in peacefully while a black guy calmly sitting in his car with his hands in the air gets shot.
By openly stating "White Lives Matter" it's showing a support for the systemic racism non white people face just by existing.
This is only partially true. According to the logic of intersectionality, white people exist at the top of the totem pole because the majority of technological and societal innovation was produced at the hands of what many here would call WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). By the distributive property of racial identity, white people who are European or European-adjacent enjoy the historical benefits of being "like those people" and so get the "benefit of the doubt" because of racial in-group bias.
However, to say that "white mass shooters get taken in peacefully while a black guy calmly sitting in his car with his hands in the air gets shot" is putting the cart before the horse. There is no way to discuss white vs. black criminal trends without inevitably invoking the oft-mentioned "the black population is barely more than ~10% of the population, yet they commits 80%+ of the crime in most places where they live" talking point. Whether because of social inequities that we're still grappling with trying to find a solution to, violence inculcated into them from a young age because of places where they grow up trending towards low-income ghettos and surrounding them with a culture of violence and destructive behavior or some other equally-complex explanation, the fact of the matter remains that blacks, on average, have to constantly fight the stigma of being criminals or being associated with crime by-proxy.
It's not that "White Lives Matter", it's moreso that "Black Lives =/= White Lives", in that they don't live the same axiomatic worldviews. If the prevailing "white" perspective is "hard work bears good fruit", then the prevailing black perspective is "hard work is a sucker's game"--hence why black folks who attempt to put in the same work ethic as their Caucasian counterparts are said to be "Uncle Toms" and/or "pandering to the white man".
If you grow up believing putting that in an honest days' work can't be expected to bear fruit or that you have no hope of succeeding because you're already too far behind others to ever catch up, then where are you expected to end up? Nowhere good.
If bayoubob doesn't mind me piggybacking off their comment, I have some questions...
There is an article from Today called "What is systemic racism?" (https://www. today. com/tmrw/what-systemic-racism-t207878) In this article, it is described as "this ever-present force, kind of like gravity. You can't see it, but you can experience its effects and it ‘holds’ the world together. When you drop a pen, you see the effects of gravity. But the laws of gravity become more complex as they are used to explain phenomena at a planetary and galactical scale. Systemic racism can be likened to the latter. It is not (isolated racist acts), person to person; it is the intricate infiltration of racism into policies and the execution of said policies so that racist practices are perfused into everyday interactions.”
This doesn't amount to much of anything. According to the logic of this article, "systemic racism" is basically an unfalsiable and immutable constant of the modern world, where race is concerned. Only people who have to deal with it can see it and, because white people are universally in a position of privilege and thus unable (or, in your opinion, unwilling) to observe it, it is goes unnoticed. But it is also immutable, meaning that because it is apparent only to people who observe it, i. e. subjective and lacks any kind of material, quantifiable element beyond "a feeling", there is nothing to be changed.
Operating by this premise, the worldview of systemic racism is like seeing in color, whereas "I don't see color" when talking about race issues is tantamount to monochrome (black-and-white) vision. Therefore, someone who is privileged can only see the world in shades of grey and is incapable of seeing the "color" that is obvious racism right in front of their face. If this is true, then "eliminating systemic racism" is not a possible state, because there is no condition by which someone who can only see black and white can observe the color brown.
There is also this article from ThoughtCo (https://www. thoughtco. com/systemic-racism-3026565) called "Definition of Systemic Racism in Sociology", where it is described as "the complex array of antiblack practices, the unjustly gained political-economic power of whites, the continuing economic and other resource inequalities along racial lines, and the white racist ideologies and attitudes created to maintain and rationalize white privilege and power. Systemic here means that the core racist realities are manifested in each of society’s major parts [...] each major part of U. S. society—the economy, politics, education, religion, the family—reflects the fundamental reality of systemic racism."
In this sense, systemic racism is less metaphysical and more material. You can do something with this, the only question is "what?"
TL;DR Which parts of these articles do you agree with any, and why?
@Investigator The bottom line is systemic racism does not exist. To Libtards and BLM aficionados, they never bring in the other equation, they ignore all the other races except their own. So, you can do a bake sale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDVnzQD_FVU
@Investigator, By that logic, the entire system is racist and needs to be destroyed and those that believe in it subjugated and silenced. It fits with some of the rhetoric we’ve heard over the years.. but then we’re talking about a revolution and a reset where America is no longer a superpower and inevitably collapses into a violent 3rd world country.
@DarkWinterNights "By that logic, the entire system is racist and needs to be destroyed and those that believe in it subjugated and silenced"
I think its a result of two comorbidities: firstly, the Noble Lies of the past are now considered insufficient to justify the Sins of the Father. This is not to say that, for example, the Founding Fathers were not courageous in their endeavors, but that they also engaged in too many immoral enterprises to balance their good deeds and make them worthy of the adoration heaped upon them, as if they were saints. Yes, I know--"don't throw stones in glass houses" and such.
Secondly, the newer generations are more quickly coming to the realization that the world isn't fair, but the way in which it is unfair seems more and more imposed or deliberate rather than accidental. The phrase "you can get anywhere or do anything if you try hard enough" is the motto of the American Dream, alluding to the idea that obstacles are more a symptom of personal issues to be overcome and not economic or social complications that are beyond your control. You can choose to drink water or soda, but you can't choose to not be born in a run-down neighborhood with access to soda only because, for example, the Coca Cola company subsidizes beverages and intentionally makes clean water is too expensive in order to make their offerings more attractive, and the nearest market is too far to reach by foot.
"but then we’re talking about a revolution and a reset where America is no longer a superpower and inevitably collapses into a violent 3rd world country"
Given the state of society right now, it's not a stretch to say that we already ARE a third-world country. Because while it is true that America has the largest military by fiscal spending, our money is the world's reserve currency and English is the world's default second language, our infrastructure is poorly maintained, our political system is full of cronies and we shipped all of our manufacturing overseas in the name of "profit at all costs", so that we have cheap "bread and circus" and unaffordable... everything else.
If all a superpower is, is "might makes right", as in "we have the weapons, so we set the rules", then I suppose. Otherwise, we WERE a superpower; I'm not convinced that we still ARE.
@bayoubob You are correct, affirmative action is objectively a racist practice? It is discrimination against people who are not the "right" skin color, thus it fulfills ONE of the definitions of racial discrimination. According to papers, such as this one (https://digitalcommons. du. edu/cgi/viewcontent. cgi? article=1975&context=etd), from the University of Denver, there are two definitions of racism: the restrictive view and the expansive view:
From page (s) 13-14 (I read through it, to find the material of relevance, so you don't have to), "An expansive view of equality emphasizes equality as a result and measures its effectiveness by evaluating the societial conditions (e. g., outcomes or consequences) of Black people. Moreover, an expansive view of equality in antidiscrimination law aims to eradicate the substantive conditions that reinforce Black subordination and attempts to enlist the institutional power of the legal system to further the country’s goal in eradicating racial oppession (Crenshaw, 1988).
A restrictive view of equality treats equality as a process and minimizes the importance of actual conditions (e. g, outcomes or consequences). A restrictive view of equality in antidiscrimination law, therefore, seeks to prevent future wrongdoings, as opposed to redressing root causes of racial injustice. Wrongdoings in this context are believed to be isolated incidents instead of systemic societal norms (Crenshaw, 1988). Consequently in a restricted view of equality in antidiscrimination law, the legal system is exempt from redressing the harmful effects of America’s racist past and only expected to enforce a narrowly defined set of antidiscriminatory practices. Any redress of the effects of racism must be balanced against and are limited by the self-interests (e. g. preservation of white innocence or material benefits) of Whites (Crenshaw, 1988)."
Therefore, when @RavenZ42 claims that "white lives matter" is the "literal societal standard already", they are appealing to the expansive view of racism and racial justice.
@RavenZ42 It's not black vs white. Never was. There are record numbers of Black Conservatives on You Tube. They realize that BLM equals a sham. Equals a Domestic Terrorist Group. When Jesse Lee Peterson tells you Fat Black Lesbians created BLM, you should take notice. They don't care about you. They don't care about white SJW's. They just want money, power, control, votes. etc.
Well, he's a prominent successful black man, and smart. There's plenty of Angry Black men Conservative YouTube channels. Kanye might be a douche, but when it comes to this, he's a genius.
@bayoubob Genius huh? He's got a fan base who supports his musical talent, of which he does have a good amount. He thinks he's as good as Prince, but that's his ego. He married a talentless celebrity from a family that also knows how sell nothing and make it seem desirable. Kim K. is more of a "genius" by that standard, because she truly has nothing to offer except her looks.
Many, many people in the past turned outrageousness into dollars, some of whom had no real talents either like KIm K. They exist in every generation, however, this is the first time social media has been around and made it much easier than ever before.
I'm a Minnesota Guy, and I'm a Trump Guy. I'm a Patriot of our Country. Prince is fantastic, but that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.
@loveslongnails What did Prince die of? Fentanyl. So did Tom Petty. So did George Floyd. Race isn't a thing here. Is Prince a hero because he died of fentanyl, is Tom Petty a hero because he died of fentanyl? Nope. But George Floyd is? The White Cop had to do everything in his power to save his own life, and others, via approved methods. Derek Chauvin should walk. But, he didn't. He did not have a fair trial. It was proven he did not choke him. When someone like Floyd is tripping hardcore on Fentanyl and who knows how many other drugs, he could act out like Hulk, at any given time. Yet Floyd is a fucking hero. Get's statues telling how much of a great person he was. But when, an unarmed Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt get's killed via a Black Cop. There's crickets. The Black Cop gets time with Lester Holt. He's totally fucking innocent. Yet, white people didn't create a domestic terrorist group to protest.
@bayoubob Whoa there, trigger happy! The reference to Prince was about musical TALENT. Kayne once said he was "better than Prince". I laughed a lot. The rest of your rant is irrelevant. No one mentioned Floyd, Petty or drugs. And Floyd is not a hero, he's a dead person as a result of a negligent act, nothing more. Your perceptions are grossly skewed.
On the other hand, this statement here: " I'm a Trump Guy. I'm a Patriot of our Country " ... is a total non-sequitur. As a "trumper", you're really quite incapable of analyzing or evaluating his actions, behaviors and words. If you could, you'd understand that trump is a pure tyrant who doesn't give a fuck about the USA or anyone else except how it might enrich him. On the other hand, I speak not only from witnessing the years of his administration, but from past dealings with his family and my own in NYC. You, and all other trumpers, have no clue whatsover about him or his family. His supporters are mere puppets, and as he's shown, he'll turn his wrath on anyone at any time if they question his insanity. You should be smarter.
Trump is among the furthest thing from a patriot you could imagine, but if you need the illusion, maintain it. At least he finally admitted he lost the election when he filed suit against CNN. He's a joke now more than ever.
@loveslongnails Tell me this. Where did Trump say or do anything that was racist? He may have bitched about a fat white woman? Rosie O'Donnell. Who wouldn't bitch about that woman? Yet, you voted for Biden. Biden, has untold amounts of racism in his 4 decades of "service" to our Country. You simply say, you voted for Biden because he was the lesser of two evils. Well, Biden is Racist as fuck, to this day. Yet, you pardon him. Obama made three times his networth while in office. You would think that to be evil. What did Trump do? He made America Great Again. He also did more Black People since Abraham Lincoln. These are facts. So, when do you realize you were brainwashed by the Left Bent Media?
@loveslongnails Then the most moronic things you people say is, Trump isn't the Billionaire he used to be. Well, for one, he didn't make three times his networth in Presidency. He donated all his Presidential salary to charity. He lost half his net worth. Whilst making America Great Again.
@loveslongnails To further the point. Biden is such a moron, that if given a job at Walmart to be a Greeter, he'd show up at Target or Dollar General. He can't get 3 people to show up at his speeches, the other thousand is giving him the finger, and booing Jill where ever she goes. What does Trump do to this day and age? Enters any place and sells out at least 15,000 to 20,000 seats. So, we know this much, the Potato and Heels Up is ramping up for Biden apocalypse 2.0? Nope.
@bayoubob Did I mention trump being racist? NO, not in any of my comments. Learn to read. You wouldn't know a fact about trump if it landed on your head. Also, I don't have the time or desire to debate the moronically idiotic things that Trump has said and done. The man is a circus clown and has no redeeming qualities that I can see, and I've known his family for years in NYC as mine worked with his. So to that, you have no fucking clue. Not at all. He used America to own financial gain, which is his LIFETIME pattern. You'd know that if you had any common sense about him.
If his body of lies and criminal activities, including the low live people and/or sycophants he surrounded himself with over his term still leaves you in love with him, you're even denser than I can imagine. I got a great laugh out of you comparing his doing more for Black People than anyone since Lincoln. Go back to Newsmax, please.
@loveslongnails Yet you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Why is that? So, he does something that is equal to a tax loop hole. So what. Trump doesn't sniff 13 to 15 year old heads. Biden did it again, he always does. Biden did it again!!! You would think Biden would stop doing that shit. He doesn't stop. Yet he's the most popular Prez of all timez. 81 Quadrillion votes.
@loveslongnails You simply say, who cares what a Prominent Black Man says. You don't say Trump is racist. You don't say Kanye is racist. We just love our Country.
@loveslongnails I will also ask this question. As a white man, I'm supposed to love TayTay, fuck that. Taylor Swift is a bitch. We were supposed to be on her side when Kanye fucked her over. That's Hollyweird/Celebrity bull shit. If you can't see it, you don't see it. But she is Libtarded. When Kanye wants to be Conservative, you denounce him. That is some sort of weird.
@bayoubob I didn't say Trump was racist in that particular post, but he's as racist as most white people are and then some. What I DID say is I'm not going to sit here and argue with a trumper and point out all the nonsense he has said, like calling McConnell's wife "coco chao". It's the preponderance of all his idiocy.,
@bayoubob Again, you cannot read. I said he turns outrageousness into dollars - he's a stuntman. I said nothing about "right or wrong", I said essentially, it's a publicity stunt.
@bayoubob You keep bringing up Biden like I give a shit about comparing them. ONCE again, you cannot read. I'm not a great fan of Biden except that he ousted Trump. Period.
One more time, because God above you're so dumb - Trump Derangement Syndrome applies to his followers, like you, and all his supporters. You're too ignorant to see what he is, what he's done, continues to do, and always will. Those of us who see it and recognize it are not the deranged ones, booby. You are. ONCE again, I'll tell you - my family worked with his. You are CLUELESS as to the kind of people they are - absolutely clueless.
@bayoubob "prominent" has a lot of meanings: well-known, noticeable, famous, important, pre-eminent. YOU must think he's important, or a leader. I don't, I only think he's well-known, noticeable and a good marketer with some musical abilities, but he's far from honored, respected and esteemed in my book, and millions of others share my view.
@bayoubob This rant is both irrelevant (regarding Taylor Swift), and you saying I denounce Kayne when he's conservative? Whaaaat? I denounce him because he's an asshole narcissist without much to say of any value.
@loveslongnails All this back and forth and bitching is the pinnacle of hypocrisy, irony, and everything in between. I know you are a Libtard. I know you voted for Biden. You said you love Biden because he ousted Trump. Why would you oust someone who is not racist in your mind? Why would you voted and support someone who is literally 800 times worse than Orangeman Rad?
@bayoubob Learn how to use "literally" properly, chimp. I gladly voted for Biden. I might have even voted for you against Trump, though that would have been like choosing between Palin and Pence as to who is the biggest moron. I also DIDN'T say I think Trump is FREE of racist remarks, or racism, overall - DID I? No, I didn't. I simply said "I didn't mention it in a particular reply".
It's IRRELEVANT whether or not dumping Trump out of office has to do with racism alone! Fuck, there were 10,000 other reasons. So, your objection makes no sense, as usual. As for my views, I'm a moderate who leans more liberal than conservative, mainly because today's conservatives are going backwards. When there were some around who made sense, like Olympia Snow, I voted for her. Trump is, and always has been, a lying con man and disgusting individual. He deserves to burn for his phone call to Georgia, all by itself. I'm sure you believe that was perfectly ok too. *smh*
There were 10,000 other reasons? It's called Trump Derangement Syndrome. At some point, further down the line, science will tell us why you people have a proclivity for fake news, which was coined by Democrats first. Science and Doctors will at some point be able to pinpoint the genes in which trigger you. Why do the the most influential and richest people denounce Democrats? Of these 10,000 reasons you opine? Name one. We always ask it. You come up blank. Even if you come up with one reason, there's 50,000 reasons that prove your irony and hypocrisy.
I've never heard of this "so called phone call to Georgia." In the 99% of Left Bent Media, surely I would have heard about it? Yet, I haven't. But, you haven't heard of Biden diddling his daughter? He straight up had inappropriate showers with Ashley. It's okay though, just like Pelosi says, it's just Joe being Joe. Would you not prevent your kids from playing with Biden's kids? Where meth, and other drugs make them the pillars of society? Where as Trump's kids are Angels in comparison. But it's okay for Biden to do it again. You would think he would never do it again on a grand stage, to sniff pre pubescent girls hair. He did it within the week! Most Popular President of All Timez. 81 quadrillion morons, did it. Can't question it. If you question it? You are banned, and get strikes from Big Tech. All you people do is bitch, bitch that Elon is doing what? At the same time, Trump says he will never come back to Twitter. So, all you idiots can sleep well, knowing free speech will not be trounced, why? Because Trump has no inclination to return to Big Tech, He doesn't need to. He is that popular.
@bayoubob You really ARE as dumb as rock, aren't you? TDS is what YOU have, not those of us who know what a fact is or know a lifetime con artist full of bullshit when we hear it.
You want 10,000 reasons, just google "Every Lie Trump Has Ever Told". Then Google "How Trump Defrauded Atlantic City". Start there. I have more sense than to try and "discuss": anything with you, or ANY Trump supporter. You're all idiots.
The term "fake news" has been around since the 1800's. The Dems did NOT coin it. LOL
Oh, and look! Your "important, prominent, successful, genius of a man who went on yet another moronic rant, has been dropped by every one of his major collaborators. Why don't you send him some money, and some to Trump to pay his lawyers. LOL
Ridin with Biden. Put the Pedo to the Metal. Pay no heed. So, this phone call? It's a simple phone call. That is it. You are still riding on the Russian Collusion hoax? Where it's been proven Hillary and Obama spied on Trump. Pencil neck Schiff tells you Trump didn't win fair and square. You bitch about how many of the last elections would go to the Popular Vote. One thing our forefathers did was make it so Dem Ran Shit Holes, aka, California, and New York cannot supersede vs the rest of the Country. Trump had the most Counties in history, ever. Yet, a dementia riddled fool of a boob got 81 count it, quadrillion votes.
You always want to change the rules. You want to pack the courts, you want to get rid of the Electoral College. It's totally fine. You can't win it otherwise. So, you open the borders. Do not need ID to vote. Simply use COVID for the most ripe situation. You bitch voter suppression. Last I checked, Black people are not dumb, poor, or inept? They are far smarter than you. But those are the coat tails you ride on?
@bayoubob You just say anything you want with no facts, don't you? You absolutely DO need ID to vote!! There just isn't ONE specific "national voter ID card". Each state, even township, can set guidelines for that. For fucks sake, can you ever get past your own idiot "talking points" and look up facts>?
If you don't think there's voter suppression in certain areas, you're EVEN dumber than I thought, and I think you're as dumb as they come. Read this article, if you can handle the big words, just for a small example. Not saying the D's don't try this shit too, but the R's have made it a priority after losing in 2020. www.texasobserver.org/.../
No, you don't need an ID to vote. Did you vote? Obviously you did. Where did anyone say "Hello Sir, crank out your ID?" Never. You show up to your precinct, or Township. You vote, and that's it.
I live in a Libtarded State. Maybe you live somewhere that requires it. That would be called SMART. For you to say ID is required, is tantamount to not seeing the realization that it simply isn't required via the rest of the Country.
If you can wholeheartedly say, you showed up at your Precinct, and they asked for an ID. I would call you a liar. If it's the case, where you had to? Know this. It is not REQUIRED!!! everywhere? You are blowing my mind!!! POOOOF!
It's LIES to say that you bring up LAWS that must make you Register!!! It's not a thing!!! No one in my State has to register. Never does an ID come into play?
@bayoubob You're already registered if you're a property owner, dummy. Or you can prove residency. Or that you pay taxes, or whatever other requirements they accept. I don't know where you live, but you don't know what you're talking about.
I've never ever produced my ID for no other reason than Tobacco or Alcohol or Firearms. Plus I enjoy my ID for being a responsible motorist. We have to produce our ID for many a things. Never was it required to vote. Ever.
No, I'm not registered. So, the other condundrum, what if I identified as a Furry or Unicorn, or this and that. I've never been registered. Even if God Almighty, like Joe Mauer signed a letter of intent to Florida State. Then decided to fuck over Florida State and play baseball? You have no grounds to say otherwise then became the greatest Catcher of all times. C'mon man!!!
If you live in a RED STATE, Congratulations! Maybe, just maybe, you show up and they ask for your LICENSE. The fact that one state, much less many don't need it? Now you see the SHENANIGANS!!! It's the most bizarre thing about the LEFT. They simply don't see how far RADICAL LEFT they are. They can't do it. It's on a NATION WIDE scale. Some of you idiots will, say well, it's the MAFIA. No, it isn't. It's the SWAMP. Which everyone and everybody should try to eradicate.
What you idiots say, is Counties don't matter!!! Really? Record Counties don't matter? VS 81 quadrillion votes? And Biden is still the most popular Prez ever, can't question it. Most secure ever!!!
@bayoubob Not a Biden fan, telling you for the 400th time since you can't stop bringing it up. Trump had to go. He's a piece a diarrhea. Biden has to go, but neither party has anyone worthwhile who actually wants to run. But you're still insane.
You are a Biden fan & Trump did not have to go. In fact, he hasn't gone anywhere. He's ramping up for 2024. Trump is only diarrhea in your mind because the Left bent media and Hollywood does a good job of brainwashing you. If you were smart, you'd say, you didn't vote period, or voted 3rd party. You didn't do that. You voted Biden. Now, we have a colossal fuck up of a mess in our hands. For these 10,000 reasons in which you thought Biden was better, I'll say it again, you were wrong. I will also mention again, the irony, the hypocrisy is so insane it's stupid. Everything you will bitch about when it comes to Orangeman Rad isn't even real. Yet, it is 1000% real when it comes to Democrats period! Republicans also have several worthy candidates.
Biden has been doing some fantastic speeches I tell you. He's still lying about his son Beau dying in Iraq, he's still telling black people he got his start at a Black Only college in Delaware. He's talking to a ghost when it comes to asking where Jackie Walorski is, after she died in a vehicular accident. The good thing about her, that her registration is still alive and well. He literally does a 180 or 360 after he speaks, doesn't know where he is, Kamala lately had grab him from walking off of a stage. You don't care about these things. In PA, Fetterman vs Oz. My God! Fetterman wouldn't debate Dr. Oz. Wouldn't do it. He had to wait until September 19th passed, so early votes wouldn't effect him. Now it's a tight race. It shouldn't be. All Fetterman did was have a stroke. Biden literally has a dementia riddled frontal cortex. Dr. Oz isn't even a great choice. He is not seen as a Constitutional conservative. Yet, given a choice vs Fetterman, the choice is simple. Democrats continue to not Debate. Why don't they do it? They have nothing. They won't step up to the plate. You idiots prove it and prove it again. You vote simply because you don't have a brain. As long as you vote Blue, it is all you care about. And why do you do it? Because even though you think you are doing the lesser of two evils, you simply double down, triple down for no good reason.
@bayoubob I hate blocking people, but your useless tirades are both boring and stupid. You really have no fucking idea about what's truly going on. How many FUCKING times have I told you I'M NOT A BIDEN FAN other than he ousted Trump? How... many... fucking... times? YET, you rant on and on and on AD NAUSEUM. Sell your shit elsewhere.
Virtually EVERY choice in an election is choosing the lesser of two evils, you idiot. For now, I see damn near every Republican candidate as the greater of two evils. You point out Fetterman vs Oz, and the lack of a debate. I can point to Warnock vs Walker, the latter being a bobble head who admits he just a fucking tool! I'd still vote for Fetterman, despite his troubles, because I believe Oz is liar, a cheat and he's a supporter of Trump, which means he has no moral character.
So please stop with your Biden shit, since I have no use for him either, and take your opinions somewhere that I don't have to block you.
Well, okay, I'm the idiot. Did you not watch the Fetterman debate? The debate he held off of doing, until way, way after September 19th in which early voting started. Fetterman probably can't tie his own shoes or wipe his own asshole (doesn't that remind you of a certain person, whom, you aren't a fan of, but you are, and still tell me vehemently you aren't a fan of). Likely has velcroe shoes when he isn't in public. To simply say you vote for people who you damn well know are just puppets vs people who actually have a brain, is insane. Fetterman won. Congratulations. We don't like Oz either. He isn't a Constitutional Conservative. But, we know damn well who the better choice is. Once again, TDS comes into play. You aren't far off the demographic that makes this possible. Allegedly the 18 to 29 crowd really did their job. Gen Z is the most detrimental crowd that has ever existed. You keep on doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down on choices because you are that butt hurt, whilst saying you have no use for said choices. Do the respectable thing. Don't vote, or vote 3rd party. It's pretty fucking simple.
To say you are a fan of Warnock vs Herschel is just more stupidity. Simply, you are a Libtard, and you won't own up to it. You cry, cry so hard, "I'm not a Libtard, I'm not Left bent, I'm neutral, or blah blah blah." You are a liar. Lesser of two evils is how you decide? Please... What you do is be a fucking straight up Libtard. Who needs to point that out? Do you enjoy our first and second Amendments? No. You don't. Own up to it. At least do that much.
@bayoubob You are total fucking idiot. Complete moron. Herschel over Warnock? You are fucking insane. I live in Georgia, asshole. All those articles about Walker's violence are 100% true. His own son's testimony - true. You stupid fuck. The ONLY reason Walker has any traction in the state is a) he's a football hero and B) Now pay attention to this you FUCKTARD... White folks know he will be the good "n**ga* who will EXACTLY what his party tells him!! So every Trumptard idiot will vote for him.
You are too stupid to accept I'm not a Biden "FAN", but I just like some of what he's done. You say ignorant ass shit like "we know damn well who the better choice is". NO... WE don't, it's just your choice.
Left up to you and right wing FUCKTARDS, there will be absolutely NO freedoms left in this country except to own guns with absolutely no restrictions.
I know and UNDERSTAND both the First and Second Amendments far more than you ever will, as you DEMONSTRATE every time you bring them up with no relevance. NONE at all. I remind you too, since reading is not your strong point, the 2nd Amendment says " A WELL REGULATED MILITIA... etc". Do us both a favor and stop replying, as will I, and for fuck sure, don't tell me who to vote for or what's RESPECTABLE. You have no damn clue what respect is, or you wouldn't be a fucking Trumptard. And finally, again, you are the one with TDS because you believe his vomit. You're pathetic.
I agree. And the fact that Kanye west is an entertainer and a millionaire is promoting it makes it evident that he is just trying to get more attention from this. He always does dumb shit, like trying to run for president and creating a dramatic scene when he gives up. All just to get retweets
Do blacks need to wear a shirt to prove it? Plaster BLM everywhere? Do they need to block Freeways? Do they need to take a knee? Do they really need to burn down half the Country? Do they need anyone to point out just how screwed black people are when it comes to what BLM actually means? Which is Black Lives Murdered? (By other blacks)?
In most instances of so called "police brutality," it was absolutely and positively necessary. The founders of BLM are making bank to untold millions? Why? Do you really know what they want and say? They want every white man to basically give everything up, from their cars, to their houses, to their education, whilst calling names and being racist as fuck.
That is a lot of questions to answer but looks like BLM ended up being a scam overall and the news ONLY posting the negative in racial matters resulted in mass hysteria.
Of course it's a scam. The Democrat party has been a scam for decades. They do nothing but want power, votes, and prey upon people via "victim hood mentality." They are running on fumes in that regard. So, what's the next thing? Simply, whamen's right to abort babies, and Gun Control. Oh, they also want free health care and free college education. They tell me I don't know what Communism is.
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Only idiots would think "white lives matter" is violent.
No shirt is violent. The message is just as stupid as the others.
no. I consider violence to be violence. that's it. nothing more.
This reminds me of that dress... but worse and someone's gonna get a twist in their panties
No, I deem burning, looting, and mobs that unilaterally decide there is a 100% off sale on tvs and nikes to be violent.
I don't know it depends on the person, but Black Lives Matter, and White Lives matter are both stupid, we all have equal rights now so All lives Matter, we’ll call it at that
Yes. White lives mattering is the literal societal standard already. That's why literal white mass shooters get taken in peacefully while a black guy calmly sitting in his car with his hands in the air gets shot.
By openly stating "White Lives Matter" it's showing a support for the systemic racism non white people face just by existing.
Lol god you’re fucking brainwashed
So…. White lives don’t matter?
This is only partially true. According to the logic of intersectionality, white people exist at the top of the totem pole because the majority of technological and societal innovation was produced at the hands of what many here would call WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant). By the distributive property of racial identity, white people who are European or European-adjacent enjoy the historical benefits of being "like those people" and so get the "benefit of the doubt" because of racial in-group bias.
However, to say that "white mass shooters get taken in peacefully while a black guy calmly sitting in his car with his hands in the air gets shot" is putting the cart before the horse. There is no way to discuss white vs. black criminal trends without inevitably invoking the oft-mentioned "the black population is barely more than ~10% of the population, yet they commits 80%+ of the crime in most places where they live" talking point. Whether because of social inequities that we're still grappling with trying to find a solution to, violence inculcated into them from a young age because of places where they grow up trending towards low-income ghettos and surrounding them with a culture of violence and destructive behavior or some other equally-complex explanation, the fact of the matter remains that blacks, on average, have to constantly fight the stigma of being criminals or being associated with crime by-proxy.
It's not that "White Lives Matter", it's moreso that "Black Lives =/= White Lives", in that they don't live the same axiomatic worldviews. If the prevailing "white" perspective is "hard work bears good fruit", then the prevailing black perspective is "hard work is a sucker's game"--hence why black folks who attempt to put in the same work ethic as their Caucasian counterparts are said to be "Uncle Toms" and/or "pandering to the white man".
If you grow up believing putting that in an honest days' work can't be expected to bear fruit or that you have no hope of succeeding because you're already too far behind others to ever catch up, then where are you expected to end up? Nowhere good.
Nowhere did they say white lives don't matter lol
Nowhere did they say black lives don’t matter @Calenderagressive 🤷🏻♂️
You think you've pulled a slick move lol @SolitarySolace
@RavenZ42 Systemic Racism is not a thing. It does not exist. We are at a Pinnacle where our Country is the least racist it's ever been.
If bayoubob doesn't mind me piggybacking off their comment, I have some questions...
There is an article from Today called "What is systemic racism?" (https://www. today. com/tmrw/what-systemic-racism-t207878) In this article, it is described as "this ever-present force, kind of like gravity. You can't see it, but you can experience its effects and it ‘holds’ the world together. When you drop a pen, you see the effects of gravity. But the laws of gravity become more complex as they are used to explain phenomena at a planetary and galactical scale. Systemic racism can be likened to the latter. It is not (isolated racist acts), person to person; it is the intricate infiltration of racism into policies and the execution of said policies so that racist practices are perfused into everyday interactions.”
This doesn't amount to much of anything. According to the logic of this article, "systemic racism" is basically an unfalsiable and immutable constant of the modern world, where race is concerned. Only people who have to deal with it can see it and, because white people are universally in a position of privilege and thus unable (or, in your opinion, unwilling) to observe it, it is goes unnoticed. But it is also immutable, meaning that because it is apparent only to people who observe it, i. e. subjective and lacks any kind of material, quantifiable element beyond "a feeling", there is nothing to be changed.
Operating by this premise, the worldview of systemic racism is like seeing in color, whereas "I don't see color" when talking about race issues is tantamount to monochrome (black-and-white) vision. Therefore, someone who is privileged can only see the world in shades of grey and is incapable of seeing the "color" that is obvious racism right in front of their face. If this is true, then "eliminating systemic racism" is not a possible state, because there is no condition by which someone who can only see black and white can observe the color brown.
There is also this article from ThoughtCo (https://www. thoughtco. com/systemic-racism-3026565) called "Definition of Systemic Racism in Sociology", where it is described as "the complex array of antiblack practices, the unjustly gained political-economic power of whites, the continuing economic and other resource inequalities along racial lines, and the white racist ideologies and attitudes created to maintain and rationalize white privilege and power. Systemic here means that the core racist realities are manifested in each of society’s major parts [...] each major part of U. S. society—the economy, politics, education, religion, the family—reflects the fundamental reality of systemic racism."
In this sense, systemic racism is less metaphysical and more material. You can do something with this, the only question is "what?"
TL;DR Which parts of these articles do you agree with any, and why?
@Investigator The bottom line is systemic racism does not exist. To Libtards and BLM aficionados, they never bring in the other equation, they ignore all the other races except their own. So, you can do a bake sale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDVnzQD_FVU
Affirmative Action is RACIST.
@Investigator, By that logic, the entire system is racist and needs to be destroyed and those that believe in it subjugated and silenced. It fits with some of the rhetoric we’ve heard over the years.. but then we’re talking about a revolution and a reset where America is no longer a superpower and inevitably collapses into a violent 3rd world country.
@DarkWinterNights "By that logic, the entire system is racist and needs to be destroyed and those that believe in it subjugated and silenced"
I think its a result of two comorbidities: firstly, the Noble Lies of the past are now considered insufficient to justify the Sins of the Father. This is not to say that, for example, the Founding Fathers were not courageous in their endeavors, but that they also engaged in too many immoral enterprises to balance their good deeds and make them worthy of the adoration heaped upon them, as if they were saints. Yes, I know--"don't throw stones in glass houses" and such.
Secondly, the newer generations are more quickly coming to the realization that the world isn't fair, but the way in which it is unfair seems more and more imposed or deliberate rather than accidental. The phrase "you can get anywhere or do anything if you try hard enough" is the motto of the American Dream, alluding to the idea that obstacles are more a symptom of personal issues to be overcome and not economic or social complications that are beyond your control. You can choose to drink water or soda, but you can't choose to not be born in a run-down neighborhood with access to soda only because, for example, the Coca Cola company subsidizes beverages and intentionally makes clean water is too expensive in order to make their offerings more attractive, and the nearest market is too far to reach by foot.
"but then we’re talking about a revolution and a reset where America is no longer a superpower and inevitably collapses into a violent 3rd world country"
Given the state of society right now, it's not a stretch to say that we already ARE a third-world country. Because while it is true that America has the largest military by fiscal spending, our money is the world's reserve currency and English is the world's default second language, our infrastructure is poorly maintained, our political system is full of cronies and we shipped all of our manufacturing overseas in the name of "profit at all costs", so that we have cheap "bread and circus" and unaffordable... everything else.
If all a superpower is, is "might makes right", as in "we have the weapons, so we set the rules", then I suppose. Otherwise, we WERE a superpower; I'm not convinced that we still ARE.
@Investigator you're all idiots...
@bayoubob You are correct, affirmative action is objectively a racist practice? It is discrimination against people who are not the "right" skin color, thus it fulfills ONE of the definitions of racial discrimination. According to papers, such as this one (https://digitalcommons. du. edu/cgi/viewcontent. cgi? article=1975&context=etd), from the University of Denver, there are two definitions of racism: the restrictive view and the expansive view:
From page (s) 13-14 (I read through it, to find the material of relevance, so you don't have to),
"An expansive view of equality emphasizes equality as a result and measures its effectiveness by evaluating the societial conditions (e. g., outcomes or consequences) of Black people. Moreover, an expansive view of equality in antidiscrimination law aims to eradicate the substantive conditions that reinforce Black subordination and attempts to enlist the institutional power of the legal system to further the country’s goal in eradicating racial oppession (Crenshaw, 1988).
A restrictive view of equality treats equality as a process and minimizes the importance of actual conditions (e. g, outcomes or consequences). A restrictive view of equality in antidiscrimination law,
therefore, seeks to prevent future wrongdoings, as opposed to redressing root causes of
racial injustice. Wrongdoings in this context are believed to be isolated incidents instead
of systemic societal norms (Crenshaw, 1988). Consequently in a restricted view of equality in antidiscrimination law, the legal system is exempt from redressing the harmful effects of America’s racist past and only expected to enforce a narrowly defined set of antidiscriminatory practices. Any redress of the effects of racism must be balanced against and are limited by the self-interests (e. g. preservation of white innocence or material benefits) of Whites (Crenshaw, 1988)."
Therefore, when @RavenZ42 claims that "white lives matter" is the "literal societal standard already", they are appealing to the expansive view of racism and racial justice.
@bayoubob idiottttt
@RavenZ42 It's not black vs white. Never was. There are record numbers of Black Conservatives on You Tube. They realize that BLM equals a sham. Equals a Domestic Terrorist Group. When Jesse Lee Peterson tells you Fat Black Lesbians created BLM, you should take notice. They don't care about you. They don't care about white SJW's. They just want money, power, control, votes. etc.
Systemic racism is not a thing.
Someone doesn’t know what “violent” means, methinks.
Kayne will do ANYTHING for publicity, and who really gives a FUCK what he thinks? LOL
Well, he's a prominent successful black man, and smart. There's plenty of Angry Black men Conservative YouTube channels. Kanye might be a douche, but when it comes to this, he's a genius.
@bayoubob Genius huh? He's got a fan base who supports his musical talent, of which he does have a good amount. He thinks he's as good as Prince, but that's his ego. He married a talentless celebrity from a family that also knows how sell nothing and make it seem desirable. Kim K. is more of a "genius" by that standard, because she truly has nothing to offer except her looks.
Many, many people in the past turned outrageousness into dollars, some of whom had no real talents either like KIm K. They exist in every generation, however, this is the first time social media has been around and made it much easier than ever before.
I'm a Minnesota Guy, and I'm a Trump Guy. I'm a Patriot of our Country. Prince is fantastic, but that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.
@loveslongnails What did Prince die of? Fentanyl. So did Tom Petty. So did George Floyd. Race isn't a thing here. Is Prince a hero because he died of fentanyl, is Tom Petty a hero because he died of fentanyl? Nope. But George Floyd is? The White Cop had to do everything in his power to save his own life, and others, via approved methods. Derek Chauvin should walk. But, he didn't. He did not have a fair trial. It was proven he did not choke him. When someone like Floyd is tripping hardcore on Fentanyl and who knows how many other drugs, he could act out like Hulk, at any given time. Yet Floyd is a fucking hero. Get's statues telling how much of a great person he was. But when, an unarmed Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt get's killed via a Black Cop. There's crickets. The Black Cop gets time with Lester Holt. He's totally fucking innocent. Yet, white people didn't create a domestic terrorist group to protest.
@bayoubob Whoa there, trigger happy! The reference to Prince was about musical TALENT. Kayne once said he was "better than Prince". I laughed a lot. The rest of your rant is irrelevant. No one mentioned Floyd, Petty or drugs. And Floyd is not a hero, he's a dead person as a result of a negligent act, nothing more. Your perceptions are grossly skewed.
On the other hand, this statement here: " I'm a Trump Guy. I'm a Patriot of our Country " ... is a total non-sequitur. As a "trumper", you're really quite incapable of analyzing or evaluating his actions, behaviors and words. If you could, you'd understand that trump is a pure tyrant who doesn't give a fuck about the USA or anyone else except how it might enrich him. On the other hand, I speak not only from witnessing the years of his administration, but from past dealings with his family and my own in NYC. You, and all other trumpers, have no clue whatsover about him or his family. His supporters are mere puppets, and as he's shown, he'll turn his wrath on anyone at any time if they question his insanity. You should be smarter.
Trump is among the furthest thing from a patriot you could imagine, but if you need the illusion, maintain it. At least he finally admitted he lost the election when he filed suit against CNN. He's a joke now more than ever.
@loveslongnails Tell me this. Where did Trump say or do anything that was racist? He may have bitched about a fat white woman? Rosie O'Donnell. Who wouldn't bitch about that woman? Yet, you voted for Biden. Biden, has untold amounts of racism in his 4 decades of "service" to our Country. You simply say, you voted for Biden because he was the lesser of two evils. Well, Biden is Racist as fuck, to this day. Yet, you pardon him. Obama made three times his networth while in office. You would think that to be evil. What did Trump do? He made America Great Again. He also did more Black People since Abraham Lincoln. These are facts. So, when do you realize you were brainwashed by the Left Bent Media?
@loveslongnails Then the most moronic things you people say is, Trump isn't the Billionaire he used to be. Well, for one, he didn't make three times his networth in Presidency. He donated all his Presidential salary to charity. He lost half his net worth. Whilst making America Great Again.
@loveslongnails To further the point. Biden is such a moron, that if given a job at Walmart to be a Greeter, he'd show up at Target or Dollar General. He can't get 3 people to show up at his speeches, the other thousand is giving him the finger, and booing Jill where ever she goes. What does Trump do to this day and age? Enters any place and sells out at least 15,000 to 20,000 seats. So, we know this much, the Potato and Heels Up is ramping up for Biden apocalypse 2.0? Nope.
@bayoubob Did I mention trump being racist? NO, not in any of my comments. Learn to read. You wouldn't know a fact about trump if it landed on your head. Also, I don't have the time or desire to debate the moronically idiotic things that Trump has said and done. The man is a circus clown and has no redeeming qualities that I can see, and I've known his family for years in NYC as mine worked with his. So to that, you have no fucking clue. Not at all. He used America to own financial gain, which is his LIFETIME pattern. You'd know that if you had any common sense about him.
If his body of lies and criminal activities, including the low live people and/or sycophants he surrounded himself with over his term still leaves you in love with him, you're even denser than I can imagine. I got a great laugh out of you comparing his doing more for Black People than anyone since Lincoln. Go back to Newsmax, please.
@loveslongnails Yet you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Why is that? So, he does something that is equal to a tax loop hole. So what. Trump doesn't sniff 13 to 15 year old heads. Biden did it again, he always does. Biden did it again!!! You would think Biden would stop doing that shit. He doesn't stop. Yet he's the most popular Prez of all timez. 81 Quadrillion votes.
@loveslongnails Getting back to point. You see yourself as non racist? What is wrong with Kanye wearing White Lives Matter?
@loveslongnails You simply say, who cares what a Prominent Black Man says. You don't say Trump is racist. You don't say Kanye is racist. We just love our Country.
@loveslongnails I will also ask this question. As a white man, I'm supposed to love TayTay, fuck that. Taylor Swift is a bitch. We were supposed to be on her side when Kanye fucked her over. That's Hollyweird/Celebrity bull shit. If you can't see it, you don't see it. But she is Libtarded. When Kanye wants to be Conservative, you denounce him. That is some sort of weird.
@bayoubob I didn't say Trump was racist in that particular post, but he's as racist as most white people are and then some. What I DID say is I'm not going to sit here and argue with a trumper and point out all the nonsense he has said, like calling McConnell's wife "coco chao". It's the preponderance of all his idiocy.,
@bayoubob Again, you cannot read. I said he turns outrageousness into dollars - he's a stuntman. I said nothing about "right or wrong", I said essentially, it's a publicity stunt.
@bayoubob You keep bringing up Biden like I give a shit about comparing them. ONCE again, you cannot read. I'm not a great fan of Biden except that he ousted Trump. Period.
One more time, because God above you're so dumb - Trump Derangement Syndrome applies to his followers, like you, and all his supporters. You're too ignorant to see what he is, what he's done, continues to do, and always will. Those of us who see it and recognize it are not the deranged ones, booby. You are. ONCE again, I'll tell you - my family worked with his. You are CLUELESS as to the kind of people they are - absolutely clueless.
@bayoubob "prominent" has a lot of meanings: well-known, noticeable, famous, important, pre-eminent. YOU must think he's important, or a leader. I don't, I only think he's well-known, noticeable and a good marketer with some musical abilities, but he's far from honored, respected and esteemed in my book, and millions of others share my view.
@bayoubob This rant is both irrelevant (regarding Taylor Swift), and you saying I denounce Kayne when he's conservative? Whaaaat? I denounce him because he's an asshole narcissist without much to say of any value.
@loveslongnails All this back and forth and bitching is the pinnacle of hypocrisy, irony, and everything in between. I know you are a Libtard. I know you voted for Biden. You said you love Biden because he ousted Trump. Why would you oust someone who is not racist in your mind? Why would you voted and support someone who is literally 800 times worse than Orangeman Rad?
@bayoubob Learn how to use "literally" properly, chimp. I gladly voted for Biden. I might have even voted for you against Trump, though that would have been like choosing between Palin and Pence as to who is the biggest moron. I also DIDN'T say I think Trump is FREE of racist remarks, or racism, overall - DID I? No, I didn't. I simply said "I didn't mention it in a particular reply".
It's IRRELEVANT whether or not dumping Trump out of office has to do with racism alone! Fuck, there were 10,000 other reasons. So, your objection makes no sense, as usual. As for my views, I'm a moderate who leans more liberal than conservative, mainly because today's conservatives are going backwards. When there were some around who made sense, like Olympia Snow, I voted for her. Trump is, and always has been, a lying con man and disgusting individual. He deserves to burn for his phone call to Georgia, all by itself. I'm sure you believe that was perfectly ok too. *smh*
There were 10,000 other reasons? It's called Trump Derangement Syndrome. At some point, further down the line, science will tell us why you people have a proclivity for fake news, which was coined by Democrats first. Science and Doctors will at some point be able to pinpoint the genes in which trigger you. Why do the the most influential and richest people denounce Democrats? Of these 10,000 reasons you opine? Name one. We always ask it. You come up blank. Even if you come up with one reason, there's 50,000 reasons that prove your irony and hypocrisy.
I've never heard of this "so called phone call to Georgia." In the 99% of Left Bent Media, surely I would have heard about it? Yet, I haven't. But, you haven't heard of Biden diddling his daughter? He straight up had inappropriate showers with Ashley. It's okay though, just like Pelosi says, it's just Joe being Joe. Would you not prevent your kids from playing with Biden's kids? Where meth, and other drugs make them the pillars of society? Where as Trump's kids are Angels in comparison. But it's okay for Biden to do it again. You would think he would never do it again on a grand stage, to sniff pre pubescent girls hair. He did it within the week! Most Popular President of All Timez. 81 quadrillion morons, did it. Can't question it. If you question it? You are banned, and get strikes from Big Tech. All you people do is bitch, bitch that Elon is doing what? At the same time, Trump says he will never come back to Twitter. So, all you idiots can sleep well, knowing free speech will not be trounced, why? Because Trump has no inclination to return to Big Tech, He doesn't need to. He is that popular.
@bayoubob You really ARE as dumb as rock, aren't you? TDS is what YOU have, not those of us who know what a fact is or know a lifetime con artist full of bullshit when we hear it.
You want 10,000 reasons, just google "Every Lie Trump Has Ever Told". Then Google "How Trump Defrauded Atlantic City". Start there. I have more sense than to try and "discuss": anything with you, or ANY Trump supporter. You're all idiots.
The term "fake news" has been around since the 1800's. The Dems did NOT coin it. LOL
Oh, and look! Your "important, prominent, successful, genius of a man who went on yet another moronic rant, has been dropped by every one of his major collaborators. Why don't you send him some money, and some to Trump to pay his lawyers. LOL
Ridin with Biden. Put the Pedo to the Metal. Pay no heed. So, this phone call? It's a simple phone call. That is it. You are still riding on the Russian Collusion hoax? Where it's been proven Hillary and Obama spied on Trump. Pencil neck Schiff tells you Trump didn't win fair and square. You bitch about how many of the last elections would go to the Popular Vote. One thing our forefathers did was make it so Dem Ran Shit Holes, aka, California, and New York cannot supersede vs the rest of the Country. Trump had the most Counties in history, ever. Yet, a dementia riddled fool of a boob got 81 count it, quadrillion votes.
You always want to change the rules. You want to pack the courts, you want to get rid of the Electoral College. It's totally fine. You can't win it otherwise. So, you open the borders. Do not need ID to vote. Simply use COVID for the most ripe situation. You bitch voter suppression. Last I checked, Black people are not dumb, poor, or inept? They are far smarter than you. But those are the coat tails you ride on?
@bayoubob Just a phone call? You're an idiot.
@bayoubob You just say anything you want with no facts, don't you? You absolutely DO need ID to vote!! There just isn't ONE specific "national voter ID card". Each state, even township, can set guidelines for that. For fucks sake, can you ever get past your own idiot "talking points" and look up facts>?
If you don't think there's voter suppression in certain areas, you're EVEN dumber than I thought, and I think you're as dumb as they come. Read this article, if you can handle the big words, just for a small example. Not saying the D's don't try this shit too, but the R's have made it a priority after losing in 2020.
www.texasobserver.org/.../
No, you don't need an ID to vote. Did you vote? Obviously you did. Where did anyone say "Hello Sir, crank out your ID?" Never. You show up to your precinct, or Township. You vote, and that's it.
I live in a Libtarded State. Maybe you live somewhere that requires it. That would be called SMART. For you to say ID is required, is tantamount to not seeing the realization that it simply isn't required via the rest of the Country.
If you can wholeheartedly say, you showed up at your Precinct, and they asked for an ID. I would call you a liar. If it's the case, where you had to? Know this. It is not REQUIRED!!! everywhere? You are blowing my mind!!! POOOOF!
We don't bitch about Voter ID for no reason.
@bayoubob Wrong again, as usual.
@bayoubob Sure you do - you have no idea what states or townships consider to be proof of the right to vote, because you're clueless.
It's LIES to say that you bring up LAWS that must make you Register!!! It's not a thing!!! No one in my State has to register. Never does an ID come into play?
@bayoubob You're already registered if you're a property owner, dummy. Or you can prove residency. Or that you pay taxes, or whatever other requirements they accept. I don't know where you live, but you don't know what you're talking about.
I've never ever produced my ID for no other reason than Tobacco or Alcohol or Firearms. Plus I enjoy my ID for being a responsible motorist. We have to produce our ID for many a things. Never was it required to vote. Ever.
No, I'm not registered. So, the other condundrum, what if I identified as a Furry or Unicorn, or this and that. I've never been registered. Even if God Almighty, like Joe Mauer signed a letter of intent to Florida State. Then decided to fuck over Florida State and play baseball? You have no grounds to say otherwise then became the greatest Catcher of all times. C'mon man!!!
If you live in a RED STATE, Congratulations! Maybe, just maybe, you show up and they ask for your LICENSE. The fact that one state, much less many don't need it? Now you see the SHENANIGANS!!! It's the most bizarre thing about the LEFT. They simply don't see how far RADICAL LEFT they are. They can't do it. It's on a NATION WIDE scale. Some of you idiots will, say well, it's the MAFIA. No, it isn't. It's the SWAMP. Which everyone and everybody should try to eradicate.
What you idiots say, is Counties don't matter!!! Really? Record Counties don't matter? VS 81 quadrillion votes? And Biden is still the most popular Prez ever, can't question it. Most secure ever!!!
He's doing such a great Job. Still smelling prepubescent girls hair, and falling asleep... in front of God and everybody...
@bayoubob You're insane Bob.
@bayoubob Not a Biden fan, telling you for the 400th time since you can't stop bringing it up. Trump had to go. He's a piece a diarrhea. Biden has to go, but neither party has anyone worthwhile who actually wants to run. But you're still insane.
You are a Biden fan & Trump did not have to go. In fact, he hasn't gone anywhere. He's ramping up for 2024. Trump is only diarrhea in your mind because the Left bent media and Hollywood does a good job of brainwashing you. If you were smart, you'd say, you didn't vote period, or voted 3rd party. You didn't do that. You voted Biden. Now, we have a colossal fuck up of a mess in our hands. For these 10,000 reasons in which you thought Biden was better, I'll say it again, you were wrong. I will also mention again, the irony, the hypocrisy is so insane it's stupid. Everything you will bitch about when it comes to Orangeman Rad isn't even real. Yet, it is 1000% real when it comes to Democrats period! Republicans also have several worthy candidates.
Biden has been doing some fantastic speeches I tell you. He's still lying about his son Beau dying in Iraq, he's still telling black people he got his start at a Black Only college in Delaware. He's talking to a ghost when it comes to asking where Jackie Walorski is, after she died in a vehicular accident. The good thing about her, that her registration is still alive and well. He literally does a 180 or 360 after he speaks, doesn't know where he is, Kamala lately had grab him from walking off of a stage. You don't care about these things. In PA, Fetterman vs Oz. My God! Fetterman wouldn't debate Dr. Oz. Wouldn't do it. He had to wait until September 19th passed, so early votes wouldn't effect him. Now it's a tight race. It shouldn't be. All Fetterman did was have a stroke. Biden literally has a dementia riddled frontal cortex. Dr. Oz isn't even a great choice. He is not seen as a Constitutional conservative. Yet, given a choice vs Fetterman, the choice is simple. Democrats continue to not Debate. Why don't they do it? They have nothing. They won't step up to the plate. You idiots prove it and prove it again. You vote simply because you don't have a brain. As long as you vote Blue, it is all you care about. And why do you do it? Because even though you think you are doing the lesser of two evils, you simply double down, triple down for no good reason.
@bayoubob I hate blocking people, but your useless tirades are both boring and stupid. You really have no fucking idea about what's truly going on. How many FUCKING times have I told you I'M NOT A BIDEN FAN other than he ousted Trump? How... many... fucking... times? YET, you rant on and on and on AD NAUSEUM. Sell your shit elsewhere.
Virtually EVERY choice in an election is choosing the lesser of two evils, you idiot. For now, I see damn near every Republican candidate as the greater of two evils. You point out Fetterman vs Oz, and the lack of a debate. I can point to Warnock vs Walker, the latter being a bobble head who admits he just a fucking tool! I'd still vote for Fetterman, despite his troubles, because I believe Oz is liar, a cheat and he's a supporter of Trump, which means he has no moral character.
So please stop with your Biden shit, since I have no use for him either, and take your opinions somewhere that I don't have to block you.
Well, okay, I'm the idiot. Did you not watch the Fetterman debate? The debate he held off of doing, until way, way after September 19th in which early voting started. Fetterman probably can't tie his own shoes or wipe his own asshole (doesn't that remind you of a certain person, whom, you aren't a fan of, but you are, and still tell me vehemently you aren't a fan of). Likely has velcroe shoes when he isn't in public. To simply say you vote for people who you damn well know are just puppets vs people who actually have a brain, is insane. Fetterman won. Congratulations. We don't like Oz either. He isn't a Constitutional Conservative. But, we know damn well who the better choice is. Once again, TDS comes into play. You aren't far off the demographic that makes this possible. Allegedly the 18 to 29 crowd really did their job. Gen Z is the most detrimental crowd that has ever existed. You keep on doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down on choices because you are that butt hurt, whilst saying you have no use for said choices. Do the respectable thing. Don't vote, or vote 3rd party. It's pretty fucking simple.
To say you are a fan of Warnock vs Herschel is just more stupidity. Simply, you are a Libtard, and you won't own up to it. You cry, cry so hard, "I'm not a Libtard, I'm not Left bent, I'm neutral, or blah blah blah." You are a liar. Lesser of two evils is how you decide? Please... What you do is be a fucking straight up Libtard. Who needs to point that out? Do you enjoy our first and second Amendments? No. You don't. Own up to it. At least do that much.
@bayoubob You are total fucking idiot. Complete moron. Herschel over Warnock? You are fucking insane. I live in Georgia, asshole. All those articles about Walker's violence are 100% true. His own son's testimony - true. You stupid fuck. The ONLY reason Walker has any traction in the state is a) he's a football hero and B) Now pay attention to this you FUCKTARD... White folks know he will be the good "n**ga* who will EXACTLY what his party tells him!! So every Trumptard idiot will vote for him.
You are too stupid to accept I'm not a Biden "FAN", but I just like some of what he's done. You say ignorant ass shit like "we know damn well who the better choice is". NO... WE don't, it's just your choice.
Left up to you and right wing FUCKTARDS, there will be absolutely NO freedoms left in this country except to own guns with absolutely no restrictions.
I know and UNDERSTAND both the First and Second Amendments far more than you ever will, as you DEMONSTRATE every time you bring them up with no relevance. NONE at all. I remind you too, since reading is not your strong point, the 2nd Amendment says " A WELL REGULATED MILITIA... etc". Do us both a favor and stop replying, as will I, and for fuck sure, don't tell me who to vote for or what's RESPECTABLE. You have no damn clue what respect is, or you wouldn't be a fucking Trumptard. And finally, again, you are the one with TDS because you believe his vomit. You're pathetic.
There are few omitted words from typing too fast, but your singular brain cell should be able to autocorrect.
naw. it's just fucking dumb like the black lives matter bullshit.
They are not violent in and of themselves but are likely to evoke violence from others. Wearing them is a bad idea for that reason.
I consider them to be a mediocre marketing tactic that the susceptible minds of the masses will eat up
I agree. And the fact that Kanye west is an entertainer and a millionaire is promoting it makes it evident that he is just trying to get more attention from this. He always does dumb shit, like trying to run for president and creating a dramatic scene when he gives up. All just to get retweets
These shirts are just as violent as "black lives matter" shirts.
Not directly. But it spreads a racist message, and racist messages are inherently violent, so...
No but it's dumb as rocks and a counterprotest to an actual movement is dumb as rocks
also Kanye West was never a Trump supporter... there are literally liberal girls that listen to his music
Man half these white mfers don't realise it actually is violent
It’s kinda silly but I don’t think it’s violent.
How is it silly?
Because of course those lives matter. Do you need to wear a shirt to prove it?
These days? Unfortunately…
@annabananna Do people need to burn/loot/riot/kill all over the Country? I'd say no. It's just the SJW BLM white dbags who do that.
Do blacks need to wear a shirt to prove it? Plaster BLM everywhere? Do they need to block Freeways? Do they need to take a knee? Do they really need to burn down half the Country? Do they need anyone to point out just how screwed black people are when it comes to what BLM actually means? Which is Black Lives Murdered? (By other blacks)?
In most instances of so called "police brutality," it was absolutely and positively necessary. The founders of BLM are making bank to untold millions? Why? Do you really know what they want and say? They want every white man to basically give everything up, from their cars, to their houses, to their education, whilst calling names and being racist as fuck.
That is a lot of questions to answer but looks like BLM ended up being a scam overall and the news ONLY posting the negative in racial matters resulted in mass hysteria.
Of course it's a scam. The Democrat party has been a scam for decades. They do nothing but want power, votes, and prey upon people via "victim hood mentality." They are running on fumes in that regard. So, what's the next thing? Simply, whamen's right to abort babies, and Gun Control. Oh, they also want free health care and free college education. They tell me I don't know what Communism is.
There is a saying, if you are a college puke, you have a heart, but when you turn 30 you have a brain.
Which simply means, you figure it out. And you lean right. Simple.
If they are, so are blm shirts!
Some fools voted "yes".