Why are my tax dollars being wasted on stuff like this?

[Anonymous]

Just legalize prostitution, and the incel numbers will drop.

[Aerissa_Jade]

The problem with legalized prostitutions is it sounds good, women/men who want to do it, doing it.

Reality is, a good portion of them are not doing it by choice. The drug cartels figured out about ten years ago they could make a lot of money of human trafficking and sex slaves. Gangs and other types exist too.

They kidnap, torture, condition people so that it now appears as if they are willingly doing it. They will never run away as they've now been conditioned.

Native American's are one of the most trafficked in the USA, young girls go missing, at a much higher rate than the rest of the US because they are more isolated in tribal lands, often with no cell phone service and tribal police aren't that great.

I was nearly taken, my friend was taken... and for two years was forced into having sex with lots of guys.

Her handlers would take pictures, pretend to be her online, flirt talk, make appointments and in reality she was a prisoner in a hotel room being moved around between, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico and Arizona, occasionally moving to larger events like the Super Bowl.

Would anyone want to hire a prostitutes if they knew there was a chance she had been kidnapped and conditioned and was trapped with no way out? They are so conditioned they could walk into a police station and say they willingly did it.

When my friend was rescued in March she kept trying to go back to the cartel, it took months to condition her where she was treated worse than a Russian prison and even now, 7 months later she still is having a hard time coming to terms with what happened.

Would people even care if they paid and just wanted some, if she was willing or not? When there is no way to know a 100%, what do you do?

That isn't the answer and would not help with this guy and what he did.

Ironically legalizing it wouldn't help as my friend was taken to Nevada (where it is legal) and had lots of John's there.

[Asker]

I mean, I agree some women are forced, but that is usually in 3rd world countries where they promise them regular jobs like babysitting, but they get human trafficked. I think it should be legal so that we know a pimp is not forcing her, and she will go to the police. No pimp, just the prostitute does the work.

I think it was a Ukrainian woman who was being pimped in China and just ended up going back to sex after a guy bought her out of it. She needed to feed her family, so she went back to work for the pimp. Make the pimp illegal and prostitution legal.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Your right, the US is lower than countries like South Africa, but there is still thousands of girls and women in sex slavery in the USA.

Since it is impossible to get a accurate count, it is all estimates, with some saying there is half a million or more in sex slavery in the USA alone, 50% of which are under 18.

It is also estimated that between 15,000 to 50,000 women and children are forced into sexual slavery in the United States every year.

That is new sex slaves being added every year.

If you crunch the numbers that is pretty small percentage over all.

If there was only a way to get rid of the gangs, cartels and human sex trafficking, I'd agree it should be legal and a choice.

Yet consider how many people hate their jobs, so someone could still choose to do it and feel like they have no other options out there to get money and live. Would a man want to have sex with someone who doesn't really want to do it, but feels she has no other options? It is her choice though, to choose between that or being homeless... at least she has a choice.

[jennifer_bloom]

My mom says this guy is gorgeous and would have had no difficulty finding a girlfriend if he was willing to date average looking girls. He only pursued rich super models and celebrity looking woman which is why his rejection rate was 100%.

[Asker]

Elliot Rodgers's dad was a millionaire and film director.

[jennifer_bloom]

I did a search of him and he may have had 1.2 million or less but in places like California, it’s not enough to be wealthy and secure. Where I live near Toronto, even a two bedroom condo in a small apartment is over $600,000.

[TroyDT2]

@jennifer_bloom Yup, California is crazy. Earlier this year I was looking at a small, dilapidated house in nearby Costa Mesa as a possible teardown / fourplex location, but the dump went for almost $900K as it was. The house I inherited from my grandparents is worth... yeah, I'm not saying how much here, but on paper more than I'll likely make in the rest of my work life.

[cth96190]

Anyone who says that legalised prostitution would change the incel situation does understand the subject.

It is not about the sex. Were it just sex, any sexually unsuccessful man could end his status as an incel by visiting a prostitute, regardless of whether prostitution was legal.

Incels want to love and be loved. They want to embrace a woman and hold her close all night and enjoy the feeling of fulfilment, of being 'whole', that a man experiences when he embraces a woman about whom he cares deeply.

Incels do not hate women. They are angry and resentful that women have rejected them, but incels want desperately to love a woman and give her everything.

Incels are far removed from MGTOW monks, who have had women and could have women again, but choose not to because they have done a cost/risk/benefit calculation and involvement with women has failed the analysis.

[cth96190]

* does NOT understand the subject

[FilmGuy93]

Well said! I always thought it was so stupid when people tell incels to “just get laid.” Like, what part of “involuntary” are you unclear about? These guys don’t know how to make themselves appealing to women; that’s the entire point

[Asker]

@FilmGuy93 if you have to $200 in your pocket, you're not "involuntary".

[Asker]

@FilmGuy93 All it is is that they have standards. Back the in day, women could not get jobs or certain things unless they were married to a man. Times have changed, and women can choose who they want to marry. So undesirable men were exposed, and women didn't need them anymore.

Right now, a man needs a wife or a girlfriend to have sex, and society makes prostitution look like a sin. There is a lot of stigma around it, just like how unmarried women had many stigmas. We need to break the stigma, and sexually liberate men from a marriage contract, and then undesirable women will no longer be pursued by men.

$200 in your pocket means you are not involuntary.

[jshm2]

Don't flatter yourself, dimwit. Your tax contributions don't pay for shit. You're like the Karen in Starbucks that buys and nurses one drink the whole day; but expects to stay there like it's a hotel room and be treated like the owner.

As for the video. They are still trying to get to the bottom of the movement and psychology. Western White guys have always been a problem back from the 14th century when they were beating and raping slaves. These days they still have the same mentality, but a bit more accountability.

[OddBeMe]

Its funny... his father did interviews which I thought was brave. But he said he tried to offer legal prostitution to his son to get his cherry popped.

Its weird how angry he was at women and "chads"... Its really deeper than that.

[Asker]

He was not an incel or a part of that movement. People think he is for some reason. I don't even think incel was even a term back then. I guess it was called wizard chan or something. And he wanted women to approach and desire him.

I don't even think he knew what it was. Alec said he spoke with and that was it.

[Minxxie]

Incels are a leaderless cult. He would have hated women and wanted to kill us no matter what because he was a fully brainwashed cult member.

[OddBeMe]

Incels do look to him as the starter, worshipping his crimes as the “supreme gentlemen” or whatever. But that’s what I’m saying…it’s deeper than just getting every incel a prostitute. They want to control women and take revenge for the bullies who targeted their chubby asses.

I’ve always been intrigued with them, because it’s easy to see me as similar. I was bullied, chubby etc. Luckily I found my wife. But I think there’s a willingness to put yourself out there.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Minxxie not trying to defend the guy or anything but out of the 6 people he killed only 2 of them were women. so your statement is invalid

[OddBeMe]

@Filthy_Immigrant Mmm…should I accept that as evidence, or perhaps his huge manifesto proclaiming women as evil?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@OddBeMe by the end of they our actions speaks louder than words

[Minxxie]

@Filthy_Immigrant That's only because he was unorganized and decided to kill his roommates before the rampage because it was convenient (and he was lazy).

[Filthy_Immigrant]

not really, incels do not want to sleep with prostitutes; their egos just won't let them. these guys literally think they are entitled to be in a real relationship. I should know because I spoken to many of them when their subreddit was around and I brought this up and got lots of down votes and hate speech

[Anonymous]

Not watching the video, but given who's on the snapshot, I think it's pretty clear that legalizing prostitution wouldn't solve the problem as that guy could have CLEARLY paid for all the action he wanted, yet he decided to shoot up a sorority instead.

[Asker]

He was not an incel or a part of that movement. People think he is for some reason. I don't even think incel was even a term back then. I guess it was called wizard chan or something. And he wanted women to approach and desire him.

I don't even think he knew what it was. Alec said he spoke with and that was it.

[Opinion Owner]

Well, legalizing prostitution would do nothing to solve the problem of dudes who "want women to approach them." Good fucking luck with that, dude! lol!

[MCheetah]

They want men to suffer. That's the whole point. They'll never (fully) legalize prostitution in the West.

Also, I have Vice and VOX blocked. Thank you, BlockTube!

[Asker]

I agree. It's unfair how being a slut is promoted through mainstream culture. But a man who wants to pay for it is considered a loser. Why are we supposed to treat these women like princesses when the vast majority of them are degenerates?

[Anonymous]

Because to the gov't spending is never a problem. "We'll just raise taxes".

[Sixgunsound]

Prostitution is legal in some states.

[Agape93]

@PrettyPriya

[Asker]

Why are you linking to a moderator? What? Can't I ask a standard question?

I did not write anything offensive.

[Agape93]

Never said you did, you do realize I can and do tag people to things because I want their opinion on it, right?

[Asker]

Oh alright. It's just I usually see her tagged when they want something taken down.

[Agape93]

Understandable