What options do you see for the other EU nations after the 200 billion euros subsidy for energy bills in Germany? What do you feel about all this?

[Anonymous]

There are many scenarios I see here.

• A subsidy war starts within the EU nations.
• Import duties are increased, especially on products from Germany.
• Stop the support for Ukraine thus, resuming the gas supply from Russia, thus saving itself but at a terrible cost.
• Germany withdrawing the subsidy, thus letting the inflation be.
  
  Now here, people may start dying because of the cost of living. People may come onto roads and topple the government, setting a new one in the hopes of something new on the table.
• Germany breaking the rules set by the EU, thus subsequently, we as spectators, watching the collapse of the EU as a singular entity.
  
  But as many know, these countries as individual countries, do not hold that much power. Stronger countries may start bullying them by imposing higher import duties on their products, while at the same time, demanding lower import duties for their own products in these smaller nations.

As far as I can tell, the situation is really scary for the people there. It is a Do-or-Die situation for the EU nations.

If Germany moves forward with the subsidy, considering the other nations just sit, we will see a total economic collapse in the other EU nations as businesses in Germany will be more profitable than other nations' businesses.

So much so that the businesses in Germany alone may be able to afford to export their products to other EU nations, thus shutting local businesses in those nations down, effectively.

What do you think about this whole situation? What solutions do you think about all this?

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For the second point, replace Import Duties with VAT.

VAT is chargeable on most sales and purchases of goods within the EU. In such cases, VAT is charged and due in the EU country where the goods are consumed by the final consumer. Likewise, VAT is charged on services at the time they are carried out in each EU country.

[Anonymous]

As far as I know there are no import duties within the EU, its all free trade

The real danger to the EU is not the subsidy but a struggling German economy calling in all its loans from all EU countries to subsidise its energy.

All in all its good for the US. Russia bleeding itself dryly in Ukraine, European countries and America investing heavily in military sales, US controls the black sea, EU has to buy more US controlled oil/gas, access to central asia and caspian sea, possible collapse of Russia, EU weakened as a serious economic competitior, China put on notice, US Hedgemoney and dominate reestablished for the next 50 years.

[DryGermanGuy]

Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. The EU is a unified market, there are no import duties and there never will be. None of your drama scenarios will happen, Germany is coordinating the necessary measures with the other EU members.

[Asker]

I know there are little to no import duties. And the currency is Euros only. But that is only for 19 nations out of the total of 27 nations in the EU.

And it is a union. That means, it can collapse.

Right now, Germany is thinking for itself, clearly.
Following this lead, other nations may also go on the same path. And they may start violating the rules. Essentially anything can happen.

And The US very likely not interfere in this matter, as they are benefiting from the energy crisis.

[Asker]

Import duties are not levied. But VAT is still payable. And even though EU nations follow the same rules regarding CCT or common custom tariffs.

All is well till no nation takes any step that would hamper another nation's economy as an individual. Since that is not the case here, I think anything may happen.

Of course, they will try to maintain solidarity. But lets see.

[DryGermanGuy]

31 European countries are members of the unified market, with more to come. And the currency used is independent from membership - there are no import duties for members.

[Guy13]

World Government alliance are working it globally since Biden

[Asker]

Please explain a bit more. It seems an important entity. Political jurisdiction over the whole of humanity. That's really grand on the scale.

Please explain a bit more.

[DryGermanGuy]

There is no such thing as „World Government alliance“, it’s just another dumbass conspiracy theory of people that never read a single publication of the WEF.

[Guy13]

Search World Governance. Regions set-up through UN (North America dictator or regent) with Nation-States listed. EU is an organized one.

[Asker]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government

[Anonymous]

They suck up to Germany and get ruled by them the same way the great grandfather of the EU, Hitler envisioned nigh on a century ago