
There are several women who have come forward saying he sexually abused them when they were underage girls.
I admit , he is one weird looking dude. But do you believe these allegations?
What do you think?
There are several women who have come forward saying he sexually abused them when they were underage girls.
I admit , he is one weird looking dude. But do you believe these allegations?
What do you think?
I looked at the details of the case for one of his accusers and she started a sexual and romantic relationship with him even after the supposed "sexual assault". She then even moved in with the guy after he supposedly sexually assaulted her. Why would you move in with a guy after he supposedly raped you? Not to mention this all happened over a decade ago and now these women are accusing him. What she's claiming is that he bit her, spanked her, pulled her hair, restrained her and ball gagged her "without consent", which basically just sounds like rough sex or BDSM to me. If men can get accused of sexual assault for "spanking" without consent, every single ass man is going to jail.
It reminds me of the scene from South Park when PC Principal was asking all the guys if they had written consent from the girls they had sex with to prove it was consensual. Is that basically the path we're headed down now? Where women can accuse men decades later and say "yes he did this stuff to me, I was his girlfriend, moved in with him, but I never officially consented to those specific things".
Yes. That’s where we’re headed.
Are you feeling ok? First a post about how kids spend their money on crap and now this. Seems awfully conservative of you. I agree with both that post and this one. Well said on both.
If I didn’t know better I’d say you were a “closet” conservative.
It’s actually really common for victims of assault to continue relationships with the perpetrator. Part of it being that they are still processing the trauma and it’s a response. Been there, too. It’s not a fun place so reserve your judgments a little bit.
Also a lot of women come forward way later because they weren’t heard before that. Reporting rape to the police doesn’t do anything - very few rapists end up getting prosecuted. So it’s a dead end, really. And if you tell HR or your company about the assault they’re just going to fire you. So…this is why women usually don’t report stuff.
@Exterminatore it's not conservative to think men deserve the same rights as women when it comes to being accused of sexual assault and it's not conservative to think that we shouldn't judge someone until they have been convicted in a court of law.
@Tinytina09 I hate to break it to you, but the number of male victims of sexual abuse are about equal to the number of female victims.
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I fully agree with you, but it seems like a lot of these SJW types don’t seem to think that. They seem to think being a male automatically qualifies someone for being an oppressor and therefore automatically guilty.
Don’t know if you heard the whole “believe women” thing. Also with Ford during Kavinaugh’s hearing stated she should be believed because she is a woman when asked why she should be believed.
You are right, the bottom line is everyone should have the same rights regarding this and I agree judgment should be reserved for after conviction, not before.
I think women and men equally have the potential to be dishonest regarding any manner and neither sex has some virtue attached to it automatically or by default, even regarding a matter such as this.
Where did you read that?
Dunno but... there are these people called groupies who throw themselves at dudes & beg for sex. Some of them are underage. If the guy sleeps with them, they will show up 20 years later, when they lose their looks & can't get suckers to pay them cash/attention for how they look. There was a woman who got a job serving drinks to rich dudes at a country club. She was told straight up by management that the job was about her looking good & getting suckers to buy more drinks. She dressed like a total slut.. tons of tats, flirting. Gave dudes her phone number so they could flirt with her endlessly. Years later she sued the club for 15 million claiming she was harassed and that guys were blowing up her phone. She has an only fans account too. Everybody is a victim when they want to get paid.
JUST BECAUSE HE'S A GOTH DOES NOT MEAN HE'S A PREDATOR.
but yeah, i DO believe is a predator, not because of how he looks though.
He had a weird religious and very strict upbringing, which can screw with people's mind (as seen in multiple serial killer cases), as well as the natural instinct to be a disgusting person.
plus, i believe when multiple allegations from different people come out about someone hurting them, it best be believed. i mean, why lie about him? he's just a small rockstar with a different way of dressing. Plus, the things the women said he did to them are too specific to be a lie.
etc, etc, etc.
Just cause a guy looks and acts unusually doesn't mean he's a child sex abuser. The fact that several women have come forward is worrying though. Sounds a lot like Bill Cosby. First it was a few people, then the floodgates opened.
And the problem with people who are sexually abused is that it takes them years to come to grips with the abuse and to, if they ever do, accuse their abusers. If someone is famous and popular, this makes it even harder for people to come forward.
Seems like this will have to be a wait and see, as all such stories are.
By thus logic every man who has had sex is guilty of abuse. We are all just waiting for the girls to "come to grips" one day. No proof needed.
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Someone seriously trusts western women nowadays on this? They'll do and say anything for hype, clout and profit. Assange, Depp, anyone? Whole "MeToo" movement, where old hags came out claiming something happened to them decades ago, but apparently it only became a problem when they became elderly and no longer are rich and/or relevant?
Yes I do.
Just listen to the very beginning of "Don't Chase the Dead".
That is so indicative of an abusive male.
Yeah lol I once had a friend who really liked him and damn i already found him pretty creepy back then, now even more.
I just know in one documentary he was commenting something about the I guess columbine shooting and I remember liking his comment but damn he still creepy.
They tried to charge him from the Columbine shooting because the shooter was a fan of his. Celebrities rallied to Marilyn’s defense.
Ah okay, thanks! Well I don't know about you but I think he isn't responsible for the shooting, just cause the shooter liked his art
Haha yeah it happened a long time ago. Eminem rapped about it in “The Way I Am”. I definitely agree with you, everyone should be held accountable for their own actions. Holding artists responsible but not batting an eye to the parents is just crazy.
@melanieeeB So…If I was your VAMPIRE would death come to no one? 😭
@snowboarder720 yeah I totally agree! It's always someone or something else smh
Obviously.
You seriously think a fucker that looks like that, is innocent?
Rape is probably the least of things he's guilty of. Would think tax avoidance, cannibalism and voting Republican are things he should be prosecuted for, first.
I don’t know too many republicans who give 2 thumbs up too looking like a circus freak and men wearing makeup and nail polish. I’d say that’s decidedly not Republican of him.
That said, I’d be little surprised to find out he was a practicing cannibal, tax evader, or that he inserts straight pins into his penis as a hobby.
All that said, as much as he looks like a monstrosity we ought to judge by fact and content of character not freakish choices in fashion and eccentric behavior.
For you my liberal friend, I’d like to acknowledge this message was typed on land once owned by the Apache Indians. I’d never fail to acknowledge historical events that happened 150 years ago and act like they’re presently a thing. Off topic I know, but I enjoy mocking people who talk like this. Also the phone I typed this on was made possible by the Chinese who invented the technology. Wanted to acknowledge that. Likewise I typed this while lying on a bed made from fibers irrationally appropriated from the environment which caused danger to the matting habits of mallard ducks. I would also like to acknowledge that as a white man I am guilty of oppressing all races and women by my mere existence.
Thank you for allowing me to express my personal point of privilege.
I know nothing about it.
Looks have nothing to do with it! My mother couldn't stand Alice Cooper and called him, Creepy Cooper but, I've met him and he's a VERY nice guy!! In the mea time, I know about several ordinary-looking "nice guys" that actually DID molest, rape and even kill people!
Thirdly, look at how many times women have cried wolf and gotten nice guys into serious trouble for shit they never did.
Good point. Cooper is well spoken and a clever showman. Not a fan though.
@Exterminatore Mom also hated George Carlin but, again, I met him a few times and he was very nice guy! I'm pretty sure that if she had either of then over for dinner, by the end of the night, she'd feel quite differently about them and have no problem having them over again!
Brian DOES do a few weird things but, as I've never met him, I can't say if he's only doing that shit for show or if he really gets into it.
George was probably one of the funniest and most intelligent comedians ever.
Saw him in concert once.
@Exterminatore Saw him twice, myself.
Why does it matter what any of us think? We have zero way of knowing the facts of this case. As demonstrated by some of the users here, there will be some who think he's guilty just because of how he looks, or worse yet, just because he's male.
To me, this is just another potential case of a man's career and life being destroyed by convicting him in the court of public opinion without due process..
Putting aside the fact that he's all kinds of creepy looking, I haven't seen the evidence (if there is any). I also know nothing about him personally, or the women who have accused him. I'll leave it to the courts.
I can tell you this much - there is evidence that one of these accusers said she would get revenge on him by lying about him assaulting her. With that in mind, none of the other accusations seem remotely credible to me.
I’m on the fence. He’s actually incredibly intelligent. Might be money grabbers. Might be legitimate. Let the courts decide.
I don’t know him so I can’t say or judge. If he is someone famous it might be true or it could be just someone behind it trying to destroy his name. As for his style it makes me feel uncomfortable and I’d probably stay away from someone like that.
If the guy has money, I assume all sexual assault allegations are false.
What about the allegations about him assaulting himself.
he really needs to find Christ soon...
who knows...
Until he is proved guilty in the court of law NOT the court of public opinion, i do not have an opinion on the matter. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVED GUILTY
every popular man has abusive bitches throwing allegations their way. i only believe them if a lawsuit was won.
It is the first I've heard of it but yes. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was true.
I mean, we're talking about a guy who had his bottom ribs removed so he could suck his own dick.
Can't trust these kinds of girls anymore. "Believe all victims" has become nonsense because a lot of them are liars.
From what little I looked into the matter I don’t think he did, despite the fact he seems to be a total moral degenerate.
After 20 or 30 years I think that they are just looking for a payday.
I wouldn't be surprised. He always creeped me out. I’d cut his music videos off when they came on when i was a kid.
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