Which do you prefer... History vs psychology?

[Anonymous]

99% of what andrew tate says about honor, fighting, women etc is directly out of the glory days of the ancient Roman empire. Fighters usually like history because it gives them meaning, its evolved, you're more likely to die fighting a battle if you think it will go down in history. Honor is why hyper masculine men care about the past, past countries, past leaders, ancestors, myths, their families etc. Whereas atheists are almost always physically weak, short, fat, basically women

I've personally learned more about human culture via history books than psychology or sociology books and to me that's more important than knowing what manic depression is. Just exercise and eat right and be healthy lol

Excuse me for rambling. I get that proclivity from my mom. Anyway, quite frankly, psychology is pseudoscience. 90-99% of it is outdated bullshit. You're better off reading history books and thinking for yourself about why people are how they are

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[Soteris]

I prefer History. Humans are stupid but at least they make interesting stories.

Also no, Andrew Tate is not basing what he says from ancient rome or whatever, its just the normal cult nonsense rebranded as business or self help. Romans had very strange views on masculinity, honor and glory which makes little sense in modern context because it was founded in local culture that is long since gone.

"Masculine" Romans would be incredibly weird by modern standards. For example, they were staunch believers in the "no homo" branch of philosophy where as long as you were the dominant partner then it was completely fine having sex with other men without you losing social standing or losing masculinity.

What "Hyper masculine" men cares about is not actual history but a romanticized fairy-tale version of history that they can borrow and dress themselves in to steal the fame and glory of ancient past without accomplishing anything themselves. It is a sign of weakness and of how pathetic they really are when they have to hide behind the heritage of others.

[Asker]

You sound like a pussy

[Soteris]

Why? Because you want me but can never get any?

[Agagagagaga]

Probably because your prose is ridiculous and gives off an effeminate manner, such that one would wager that its writer has undescended testicles... or a big hairy, gaping maw of a vagina.

[Soteris]

@Agagagagaga Ouch. Spoken like a true nerd, truly the epitome of "hyper masculinity" right there.

[Agagagagaga]

It’s not my fault you’re such a little bitch. Blame Sweden. 🤷‍♂️

[Soteris]

@Agagagagaga Dont care. Go wrestle a gay dude while naked to prove your masculinity for all I care like the old Romans used to.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

Psychology and history are similar in the sense that they're both studied so carefully but the conclusions people come to with the information available are just outrageous.

Psychology has probably never been more broken than it is right now. Maybe unless you're a neuroscientist.

The ridgid way they think the brain works just astounds me. Especially with some of the developments that's taken place in the last 100 years, even the last 10 years have been a major reason for psychologists to question everything.

What you're saying about history is interesting though. I feel like the biggest thing that gets left out of history is usually what everyone was truly thinking because of how many inaccuracies there tend to be. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just think about how hard it would be for people a thousand yalears from now to understand us if they went off what was left behind.

[snackthatsmilesback]

I like history better cuz it's easier to understand. I get "he was assassinated" that's pretty easy. Some shit about motive, complexes, the ego etc are weird, complex n implied n shit. Don't like it so much.

But I'd go even a step further & say not only do you not need psychology for a lot of things, u also don't need history. Fr for most shit u can just based on ur own xp or talk to people & know what works. In those few cases where u can't figure out what works 4 u, u can then ask history. N if that still don't work, then ask psychology. But it's all harder so easier just start w urselfn prolly u can manage. Not everything tho. Sometimes u do need history and even psychology to work out a rlly hard problem.

[Asker]

You're completely wrong as Napoleon said in his essay On War, you HAVE TO LEARN WHAT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU DID TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THE PRESENT. If you ever worked on a project you'll know research saves you so much fucking time it's insane. History is like researching culture, people, how they lived, their opinions, what was important and their values

[snackthatsmilesback]

Lol obviously if you're in a competition or doing a research project u can't just rely on urself. Duh. But I mean most shit like, life. Like eating, u don't need to know the history of food or psychology of eating, just figure out what works 4 u. Only if u can't do that then u may have eating disorder, u may need psychology.

Or work. U don't need to know the industrial revolution or what careers attract psychopaths the most to get and keep a job, u just have to figure out and do shit urself. Unless u can't, then maybe knowing some history would help you see oh there's other people who didn't work 9-5 b4, what did they do? N u try that.

Most shit u don't need to be the best. It's pointless. U just need to do what u need to do, and that's shit u know bc ur a human. U know what a human needs. And humans run the systems n society, it's kinda intuitive to u as a human how to interact n figure shit out to navigate ur own life. U think if everyone memory was wiped and history and psychology books were destroyed humans would all be stupid? Lol no. Humans were never stupid. That's why they figure out psychology in the first place. That's why they do history and keep track of it. Napoleon learned from people who didn't have access to the history he did. & they from same. Knowledge doesn't just come from history, or it wouldn't exist at all bc history doesn't go on forever. Knowledge comes from *humans,* nd is just preserved in history.

[Asker]

I agree if u just want to vet up and go to work u don't need any liberal arts education. If u want to be somebody interesting u do.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Ya. It's just for bonus stuff, not basic stuff.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

You shoul learn more of both. What atheist nations did you has at that time in history?

Atheism grew as people learned more and stop being so superstitious. Trusting facts and evidences instead of fairy tales.

About the Roman empire. They had some credits, but let's remember they did many atrocities. More than anything they are remembered for their failures and brutality. That's not a good way to go down in history.

About psychology. Like any other science it bases itself in the scientific method. Putting an hypothesis and then testing it. While the human mind is a trick thing to study they did make considerable discoveries and contributes to us.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Andrew Tate is a human trafficker. His opinion doesn't matter worth jackshit.

[Imsmurter1]

I don’t like history I find it boring. Science is better

[Guy13]

History by far...