So…we’re all experiencing cognitive dissonance right now…right?

[OddBeMe]

Let’s all admit it, sometime in the last few years we loved the FBI and then hated it.

Yes I believed something contradictory

Nah! You’re an ahole!

[Stoner710]

I wouldn’t say cognitive dissidents I would say we found out shit about the FBI. That makes us not trust them at all.

[OddBeMe]

Apparently. Kavanaugh definitely doesn’t belong on the court…

[Stoner710]

Why? Because of a rape allegation that could never be proven? What if you run for president and some bitch come forward and say you raped her when you were 16 even though you’re perfectly innocent? Believe all women right?

[goaded]

No. As long as you can accept that sometimes a person or an organisation can do some things right and still make mistakes, there's no need.

[msc545]

The dissonance typically occurs when you first hold one belief strongly, and then another set of facts is perceived that clearly contradicts the first belief that you held so strongly. You may (or may) not experience some discomfort and try to reconcile the two beliefs without discarding either one and the attempt and failure at reconciliation will cause even more discomfort.

This has a lot to do with why people continue to favor Trump and fail to respond to his many illegal and more shortcomings.

[OddBeMe]

@msc545 so…kinda what I said.

[OddBeMe]

Lol…. you’re just saying it’s more drawn out. Fine! Agreed.

[msc545]

Most of saying that it has different components or phases and it's important to know what those are because it isn't something that just happens right away. Anyway, I'm glad we agree!

[OddBeMe]

@msc545 sure, I mean nothing just happens (snaps) like that. Kinda like conception lol

[Anonymous]

The FBI has become the henchmen of the democrat party.

[OddBeMe]

Except when investigating scotus appointees.

[msc545]

I don't think you actually understand what cognitive dissonance is.

[OddBeMe]

Holding opposing beliefs.

[msc545]

No. That is the precursor to cognitive dissonance.

[OddBeMe]

I think you have cognitive dissonance toward the dictionary.

[msc545]

no. You think it is a single event and it is not, and referring to the process as a single event indicates a misunderstanding.

[OddBeMe]

No it’s more than a misunderstanding.

I just read Zealot by Rena Azlan about Jesus. All his followers believed he was the Messiah. An earthly being empowered by god, or is god as an earthly being.

But then he’s killed. Can’t have a dead messiah. Or can you? Cognitive dissonance. It’s a spiritual messiah now!

[msc545]

A misunderstanding on your part as to what it is which is a process, not a single event. Read the book:

When Prophecy Fails.

www.amazon.com/.../1578988527

[OddBeMe]

Interesting. I will. But cut to the chase. What’s the definition then? You say it’s a “process”. Literally the definition is “holding two or more contradictory beliefs”.

[msc545]

ok. the *dissonance* is the *discomfort* some people experience as a result of trying to reconcile two conflicting beliefs, not the holding of those beliefs alone. Some people do not experience discomfort.

[msc545]

The perception of the belief (s), the critical thinking regarding those beliefs, the attempt (s) to reconcile those beliefs, and the discomfort or lack thereof are all part of the process we call "cognitive dissonance".