Do you think a vote for Trump is a vote for peace? He claims diplomacy can be made between Zelensky and Putin and that he can broker a deal?

[Ben487]

Yes

No

I don't know

[razelove]

I doubt it would be done that quickly. He'd at least be willing to talk about a peace treaty though, which to the best of my ability every talk between Russia and Ukraine has been accompanied by more sanctions, mysterious deaths, or straight up shot down by the US or UK.

Regardless of convincing Ukraine to take a deal, how does he convince Russia it's a good one? All of the West, Eastern Europe, and large chunks of Asia are participating in the sanctions. I'd think at this point they care less about Ukraine aside from Crimea and a route to it then they do securing trade again.

It would be tough as hell for me to trust any deal. That's like someone who has cheated on me and stolen multiple times saying "this time, for real, I won't screw you over".

My opinion is they'll carry out the war in Ukraine to whatever ending it finds, consolidate their territory, and another cold war will start. Even Trump put sanctions on Russia, so I don't think he'd be the best for an olive branch.

[monorprise]

Im not sure the Ukrainians have enough people to remain in this fight until 2025

[razelove]

I think this is taking so long because Putin has to consider the combat fatigue on his soldiers. Like if Florida had broken off when Bill Clinton was elected, how hard would we be willing to hit them now?

Say he's the most evil man on the planet or something, he still has to consider how far his people are willing to go. Just like there's a limit on how far Ukraine will go before fracturing because of cash and the promise of joining NATO. Hell, say Ukraine is winning right now, they do have a lot of people after all. The same consideration of killing what were fellow countrymen 30 years ago remains for them as well.

[cosmosis181]

Voting in the U. S. is absolutely pointless nowadays. It's not politicians I don't have faith in, it's the people. They're entirely too easy to lead by the nose, too lazy, will twirl in a circle like a beagle with it's tongue wagging to make corporations rich by buying their products (even if they don't need them), march lock in step with WHATEVER their favorite celebrity on tv tells them to think, how to dress, what to believe. You see all the Pro America movies and anti Muslim rhetoric swallowed post 9-11 by the MASSES... many of whom knew NOTHING about Islam, or a Muslim? That's what I mean. You see all the well to do White's (many of them female) who tripped over themselves rushing to proclaim "I'm not racist! I love BLM, I have a black boyfriend!" after Eric Holder announced on tv that "This is a nation of cowards," concerning race? Or all who were silent as a mouse for years... but traveled en masse to demonstrate against ", killer cops"... even if they lived in wealthy areas like Westlake in Austin Texas, where they lived wealthy and privileged (I was there)? Or the entire cluster fuckkkkkkk that showed that JUST HOW MUCH OF A CLUE AMERICANS DONT HAVE CONCERNING ANY FORM OF UNITY OR ACCEPTANCE OF DIFFERENCES... that was the Trump election run and term... and short aftermath? After all of this... would YOU HAVE FAITH IN THE American PEOPLE? I sure as hell don't. I'd elect my old Momma cat and baby Bigger Tigger team and put their furry asses in high office... and trust me, I'd feel a LOT MORE COMFORTABLE.

[sheenagwapa]

i think no president can make a difference but the one closer to God is the better leader especially if you're dealing someone with Putin who is under the huge influence of the Devil. i think it would take a lot of prayers and conversion of a lot of people for heaven to hear us

[Anonymous]

Trump offered to fly over a year ago and make a peace deal, but the left preferred war and so did Biden. That tells me everything I need to know about this fake money laundering/war.

[Jersey2]

Trump didn’t start any wars and they said he would. It was peaceful. I believe Biden is a crook.

[RingOfFire]

* President Donald J. Trump was the ONLY president in over 40 years that never got America involved in ANY new foreign wars.

* After B. Hussein Obama said that it would take GENERATIONS to eliminate the ISIS Muslim terrorist Caliphate in the Middle East and we would have to deal with their terrorist attacks on America for decades to come, President Donald J. Trump eradicated the ISIS Caliphate and booted them out of the Middle East... *** IN WEEKS ***

* When Obama was in office Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea. Then when President Donald J. Trump was in office Russia attacked NO ONE. When Biden took over Russia attacked Ukraine AGAIN.

* When President Donald J. Trump was in office the world was in a state of peace unseen for generations. In just one year Biden created a catastrophe in Europe unseen since World War II, alienated our US allies and has our enemies laughing at us. He has undone everything President Donald J. Trump accomplished for world peace and put the world on the brink of nuclear war.

[RingOfFire]

President Donald J. Trump created unprecedented peace and trade treaties between Israel and several Arab nations of the Middle East a feat that every president to the last half century tried to do but failed. He did more for world peace by this one accomplishment that every other president combined in at least the last half century. Biden has undone ALL OF IT.

[WhiteBoyChill]

USA 🇺🇸

[monorprise]

Its actually rather straight forward on how to make peace.

1: First drastically lower the cost of oil by increased production. This will cripple Russia's ability to fund the war.

2: Make a deal with Russia to let them keep the Russian areas of the Ukraine and get Ukraine to agree to it by telling them you will cut access to western weapons if they don't agree to it. This acknowledges political reality that Ukraine can't take theses territories and gives Russia enough to step away from the table. If the Ukraine doesn't go alone then cut access to western money and weapons and they will collapse within weeks.

The Ukraine is already running out of people and may be knocked out of the fight before 2024 regardless.

[BCA6010]

I'm skeptical on whether or not Trump could actually force a peace over there (especially within 24 hours like he keeps claiming), but I'm confident beyond any doubt that he's the only candidate (or incumbent) who might be able to do it at all. The only other candidate who has made serious claims about wanting the war to end is Ramaswamy, but unlike Trump, he is untested on the world stage and people like Xi and Putin would be much less inclined to listen to him before he proves himself.

Biden, the Democrats, and frankly the entire upper crust Republican establishment have made it pretty crystal clear that they're perfectly willing to keep enriching themselves off of profiteering a stalemate as long as possible no matter who's lives or livelihoods get destroyed. If the war is still going by 2024, I wouldn't expect much to change if anyone else is in office.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Russian government is dumb enough to think they can still win the war, and Ukraine is fired up and ready to re-take all of their land. Trump can't talk them into a peace deal and if i was Zelenski I wouldn't even deal with Trump or Biden after how bad a deal the USA got in Afghanistan, turning it over to the terrorists again , etc. Both Trump and Biden should be imprisoned for treason for signing and enforcing an unlawful treaty with the Taliban.

I don't know why more Americans don't demand Biden be impeached for treason for giving Afghanistan back to Taliban. Anyway, Trump and Biden are the two most incompetent U. S. Presidents ever back-to-back.

For the love of God, we should demand "None of the Above" be added to all State and Federal Ballots.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

TRUP is retarded when he say he can stop the East Europ spirit of fighting agains Russia, not even ANTANT and USSR succed. Rebelion alwase broke up, revolts and action to take down Russia/USSR.
If Trup will say "STOP" he will be the only one who will hear it becuse Ukrain will fight to the fucking last bulet and till the last brop of blood for theyr familys, houses, schools, all theyr beautiful memoris that they had create in theyr dificul time.
SLAVA UKRAINE TILL THE VERY END

[jshm2]

You seriously think a multi-bankrupt, twice indicted, bung money paying, dim-witted document thief, knows anything about peace or government?

Trump didn't broker shit, when he was in power. He simply rewrote what the "successful outcome" was in his view, and peddled that line like a parrot.

The problem between Russia and Ukraine is the same problem that was between the the Soviet Union and Afghanistan - USA arms dealers.

[Avicenna]

Although Trump does know how to make deals, I'm not sure how you get one here. Putin thinks, probably correctly, that he can wear down Ukraine and eventually force them to surrender. Zelensky, now also a dictator, can't make an agreement that Putin would accept, which I suspect at a minimum would include official recognition of the "Russian" half of Ukraine as being annexed to Russia and a puppet regime in Kiev.

[Avicenna]

There is no leverage here to get Russia to agree to stop attacking Ukraine.

[Sixgunsound]

Certainly not the leverage of committing financial suicide by forcing the rest of the world's developed economies to dump the dollar in exchange for getting to hear Putin laugh that he has a commodity economy and that sanctions based In fiat paper that only hurt us are hilarious.

[Avicenna]

@Sixgunsound; Quite true. But who says our elites haven't taken leveraged financial positions against the dollar?

[Sixgunsound]

They must have, because I don't see why they would commit suicide in the currency their own accounts are in.

[Avicenna]

@Sixgunsound: Yup

[SolitarySolace]

In my opinion, yes. At least in terms of the war between Russia and Ukraine. In terms of the civil war here in the states, the left won’t accept peace similarly to how the right won’t accept it from the left because there isn’t any agreements being made. No truce. Can’t come to any agreements on any important issues. But at least the war in Ukraine will end and we can move on from it.

[captain_voidwalker]

Well I'm sure all the never trumpers in here are gonna be like ewww but he's a nazi or some shit. But here's the facts when he was in office we left Afghanistan and Syria. Russia and China weren't bieng aggressive and were willing to come to the negotiating table. and he had the balls to cross the DMZ into North Korea with no security to start brokering some actual peace between north and south Korea. Now contrast that with bidens shit show so far.

[Pudsmucker]

Pieces always a great option to look at between two warring fashions. In my youth I remember seeing Henry Kissinger and Vietnamese counterpart at the tables during the Vietnam conflict. Or is not the best solution. You have to be able to deal with a lot of widows and orphan children those are the main people who suffer because of leadership conflicts. Pieces always the best offer.

[Anonymous]

Trump’s idea of peace would likely be vetoing aid to Ukraine and letting Russia have it. He’s in Putin’s back pocket.

[SolitarySolace]

Won’t know unless we give him a chance

[WanderingLoveWizard]

Horse shit 👎

[Opinion Owner]

Since neither of you brainiacs pay any attention, Trump has already proposed ending the war by pulling Ukraine’s military aid. Is he lying about his own motives?

[Avicenna]

Ah, there are still deluded leftists who believe the "Russia Hoax". Aid to Ukraine has proven pretty expensive and given that country's corruption and that within the US government, it's quite likely that much if not most of it has been embezzled off. I'd rather spend money in the US on people who could use assistance, and that's probably what Trump thinks as well.

[Opinion Owner]

@Avicenna The only thing Trump is thinking right now is how he can possibly keep himself out of prison.

[Avicenna]

Yeah, well, you shouldn't be proud of the corrupt way the DOJ and NYC DA have conducted themselves. Abusing governmental power to target a political opponent is disgraceful and illegal.

[molonski2]

The timing of the actual invasion was kinda incredible , such a statement.

I don't know the answer , but they sure seemed to want Trump gone before things began to heat up.

[exitseven]

Trump could pit an end to it in 24 hours. He would cut off the money and Zelinsky would surrender the next day and move into one of the mansions that we built for him. Then he would tell Putin to layoff of he won't believe what comes next.

[loveslongnails]

Trump also "claimed" the 2020 election was stolen, and that Mexico would pay for a wall, and that he and the Republicans had a better health care policy than Obamacare, etc, ad nauseum. When are you going to learn?

[loveslongnails]

Oh, I forgot, he also claims to be innocent of all charges against him, EVER, for anything, including the ones where he's recorded incriminating himself. LOL.

[LiamJHayden]

The Establishment Party (HW, Bill Clinton, Gore, W, Kerry, McCain, Obama, Romney, Hillary, Biden) all love war. Trump, for all his arrogance and bluster, did not.

[WanderingLoveWizard]

My man Donald would put an end to this garbage the first week in office

[WanderingLoveWizard]

Even if other leaders are only afraid of him because they think he's an unhinged lunatic, they're still afraid of him

[purplepoppy]

Trump had a hand in starting this war. The only way he could broker a deal is if that deal was already in place before the invasion.

[FunkyMonkee]

Yeah, sure he did!! While Biden was in office? How did he manage that?

[purplepoppy]

He planned it with putin while he was president, or perhaps they kept in touch

[SolitarySolace]

You’re assuming things because you hate trump.

[purplepoppy]

I'm assuming things because it fits his character.

[Avicenna]

Yeah, like the Biden Crime Administration and Family have anything but bad character. Incredible claims require incredible proof unless you want to look like a kook (maybe you do).

[purplepoppy]

History will prove me right

[Purrolator]

They're actually all 4 illuminati trannies. Donald Trump, Joey B. and the two Vova's are biological females and their wives are men.

It's all preplanned and every news event is happening according to Masonic numbers. For instance, the drag funeral in September or the last weekend's submarine event is clearly staged, just go on any gematria blogging site such as gematrinator. com and read the blog about the submarine.

[FunkyMonkee]

Even if that WAS his character, and it's not, you'd still be assuming things because you hate him!

[Avicenna]

poppy, you and other leftists have been wrong more times than you can count. And you're wrong about this nutty claim as well

[razelove]

@Avicenna @purplepoppy Actually she is right on that one, though it would be trump, obama, going back before them to the first sanctions on Russia, and not disbanding NATO when the USSR collapsed.

What nation won't attack when a hostile power backed by the worlds largest military is building bases closer and closer to their doorstep with an alliance specifically created to destroy them? Also all the sanctions ramping up year after year, along with proxy wars that have been ongoing.

Trump and Obama restricted their ability to buy components needed to make smart weapons or integrated command systems before the first stroll through Crimea ever happened. Makes a real chicken and the egg scenario...

[Avicenna]

@razelove: Whatever you think of the NATO failure to live up to a verbal promise to Gorbachev circa 1990 not to enlarge NATO to the former Warsaw Pact states, that's no excuse for Russia to launch a bloody war of conquest in Ukraine. And you also ignore a very relevant context here- Putin's desire to re-create the former Soviet Union. Note as well that when the Berlin Wall came down on 11/9/89, Putin called Moscow and suggested sending in the tanks a la Budapest in 1956 and Prague in 1968.

Furthermore, the countries that joined NATO after 1990 did so as free, independent nations. Russia had no veto over them joining NATO. NATO is a defensive alliance, not one aimed at destroying Russia. And the decision by the new NATO members to join has been validated by Russia's brutal rape of Ukraine.

So, in a nutshell, you're talking nonsense, as is Poppy.

[razelove]

@Avicenna I'm talking nonsense? Man, I don't even know how to unpack that, Putin was 4 years old in 1956. That's some serious 4d chess he's playing there.

[Jersey2]

I don’t think Trump had anything to do with this war. I think Germany fed Russia billions of dollars and at the same time weakened NATO with their anemic military spending. Trump called them out in it but laughingly Merkel was seen as the smart one. I think Russia would not have crossed Trump as he comes off as erratic and unpredictable but Trump is crazy like a fox. Russia invaded because Biden and the Democrats were perceived as weak.

I think Russia was to take Ukraine and depending on how that went, China would take Taiwan. But the Ukrainians held on and the world was galvanized. Trump was also right about Covid coming from China, likely, almost certainly, their Wuhan labs. It was made as some scientists have stated for some time now and that it couldn’t come from nature. The real question is, was it deliverable released to weaken the West or was it human error.

[JesseP1nk]

How you do diplomacy with someone who holds a gun in your face? Its like why did not jews talk Hitler out of it so they would not be executed.

Anyone who thinks you can reason with Putin is an idiot.

[slatyb]

It's a vote for capitulation. Then Trump will try to make himself dictator. He has already said he wants to suspend the Constitution.

[ImalwaysrightOK]

Hopefully, Putin takes over all of Europe and gets rid of leftist globalists once and for all.

[WilmaReportu]

By making such statements, you are displaying an attitude of intolerance and refusing to accept that everyone has the right to their opinions. It is essential to maintain an open and tolerant climate in our society, and I cannot stand by and watch as someone tries to take away the rights of others. Therefore, if you persist in this line of thinking, I will have no choice but to take action and report you.

[ImalwaysrightOK]

@WilmaReportu so report me. I didn't say anything except my opinion. If you can't handle it, YOU LEAVE.