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Jews don't and never did need their own "homeland". Palestine was already the home of Muslims, Christians and Jews who were living there before the terrorists from Eastern Europe began arriving in the 20th century.
Those Eastern European Jews have zero ancestral connection to Palestine. If anything, their ancestry was Khazarian.
England had no right to present the Balfour Declaration to Lionel Rothschild in 1917. Not England, the U. S., the UN, or anyone else had the right to cede Palestinian land to non-Palestinian Jews from Europe.
Israel is not there to protect Jews. Jews don't need protection, but all non-Jews in Palestine and in the entire region do. Most people have no idea what is going on because our media doesn't report it and our history books have white washed the history out of existence and replaced it with lies.
Before the Eastern Europeans began arriving, Muslims, Christian and Jews lived side by side as friends and neighbors. There were mosques, churches and synagogues. Palestine was peaceful, and it was a place where people from all over the world went to visit the Holy Land in peace.
In my opinion, Israel needs to cease to exist. The land is Palestine. I collaborate with others, including Jews, toward that end.
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Down with Israel and the Zionists!
to ll , content 20th century, actually the first wave of jews bought land in 1800s. if jews had a place to go in 1939, less woulda been sent by train to death camps, and dont forget famous king david...
@Stoner710. So, you're saying that every Jew in the world is in Israel and that the only way Jews can survive in the world is to become murderous, sadistic colonists.
That's like saying that ending apartheid in South Africa would mean the destruction of all white people.
A very large proportion of them yes 45.3% they have been persecuted every single place they go except the United States. The United States have the 2nd largest Jewish population in the world 39% of them the other 15.7% are scattered throughout the world. They have been persecuted in pretty much every single country they go to accept the United States and their own. Remember, the Spanish inquisition remember the holocaust? Remember, when Jews were not allowed to own their own businesses in Europe, but they were allowed to go into finances hence why Jews are so good with money. I like the times in Europe they were not allowed to own their own houses. They were forced to rent. In the United States we make fun of there big noses that’s it. So the Jews are like meh make fun of our noses just don’t kill us, which the United States are like ok will make our jokes but you’re cool.
Oh, and by the way, if the Palestinians put down there guns today and just lived there lives worships there own religion and shared the dome of the rock which is the most holiest site in all of Judaism there would be complete peace in Israel by whatever property you want worship the way you want follow the laws that all the Jews ask of Palestinians they want to live in harmony with Palestinian. Palestinians. Don’t want to live in harmony with Jews. The only people that are keeping you in a “ apartheid state” is Hamas. You can have your own political party the Jews do not care. You can buy your houses you can eat your own food you can grow your own food you can own your own land. Israel is pretty much like the United States. In terms of policy. But you’re so called elected Leander who were suppose to have an election every 4 years but the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas has denied the Palestinians, a free and fair election since he was elected. Israel’s me concessions after concession after concession. You have the Gaza Strip you can worship at the Al-Aqsa Mosque with out fear of getting arrested without repercussion which is one of islam’s holy sites. Jews get arrested for praying up there with just there lips moving. So don’t give me those murderous sadistic colonialist crap. If you want to blame anyone for that one you can blame the Italians and the British for that one. Don’t blame the Jews.
By the way, I’m not Jewish
@Stoner710. You don't have one single clue.
@Stoner710. There is no point in arguing with you. Start by doing some research.
The book The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed might be a place to begin.
Here are some other resources
www.amazon.com/.../1566560683
I’ll check it out but you do you research as well start here https://youtu.be/kzL2m0fBxF8
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Yes, I would support free Palestine. Thanks for sharing this question.
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It should be noted at the outset that for the Palestinians to unilaterally declare statehood, or even to take the issue to the United Nations, would be a grave violation of the PLO’s signed agreements with Israel, which explicitly barred such unilateral actions and appeals to outside parties. All of these agreements were also witnessed by outside parties including the United States, Russia, Norway, the EU, etc. If any of these countries now go along with material violations of agreements that they witnessed, that would raise serious questions about the worth of such agreements and the worth of such witnessing.
Why do the Palestinians refuse a negotiated peace? Because a negotiated peace means the end of the conflict, or at least promising to end the conflict and accept Israel. But the Palestinian leadership wants a state so that they can continue the conflict from a stronger position. In particular, they want a state and they want to keep pressing in every way for the “right of return” to Israel.
Israel would not agree to that in negotiations, which is why Palestinians want a state without negotiations, and without having to make any compromises.
In accord with this, at least three times the Palestinians have refused statehood when it was offered to them, most recently just a few years ago. Here are the details:
1. In 2008, after extensive talks, then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert met with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and presented a comprehensive peace plan. Olmert’s plan would have annexed the major Israeli settlements to Israel and in return given equivalent Israeli territory to the Palestinians, and would have divided Jerusalem.
Numerous settlements including Ofra, Elon Moreh, Beit El and Kiryat Arba would have been evacuated, and Hebron would have been abandoned. Tens of thousands of settlers would have been uprooted. Olmert even says preliminary agreement had been reached with Abbas on refugees and the Palestinian claim to a “right of return.”
Olmert recounted much of this in an interview with Greg Sheridan in the Australian newspaper:
From the end of 2006 until the end of 2008 I think I met with Abu Mazen more often than any Israeli leader has ever met any Arab leader. I met him more than 35 times. They were intense, serious negotiations.
On the 16th of September, 2008, I presented him (Abbas) with a comprehensive plan. It was based on the following principles.
One, there would be a territorial solution to the conflict on the basis of the 1967 borders with minor modifications on both sides. Israel will claim part of the West Bank where there have been demographic changes over the last 40 years…
And four, there were security issues. [Olmert says he showed Abbas a map, which embodied all these plans. Abbas wanted to take the map away. Olmert agreed, so long as they both signed the map. It was, from Olmert’s point of view, a final offer, not a basis for future negotiation. But Abbas could not commit. Instead, he said he would come with experts the next day.]
He (Abbas) promised me the next day his adviser would come. But the next day Saeb Erekat rang my adviser and said we forgot we are going to Amman today, let’s make it next week. I never saw him again. (Nov. 28, 2009)
And this is not just a self-serving claim by Olmert – Abbas, in an interview with Jackson Diehl of the Washington Post, confirmed the outlines of the Olmert offer and that he turned it down:
In our meeting Wednesday, Abbas acknowledged that Olmert had shown him a map proposing a Palestinian state on 97 percent of the West Bank — though he complained that the Israeli leader refused to give him a copy of the plan. He confirmed that Olmert “accepted the principle” of the “right of return” of Palestinian refugees — something no previous Israeli prime minister had done — and offered to resettle thousands in Israel. In all, Olmert’s peace offer was more generous to the Palestinians than either that of Bush or Bill Clinton; it’s almost impossible to imagine Obama, or any Israeli government, going further.
Abbas turned it down. “The gaps were wide,” he said. (May 29, 2009)
2. In the summer of 2000 US President Bill Clinton hosted intense peace talks at Camp David between Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat and Israeli leader Ehud Barak, culminating in a comprehensive peace plan known as the Clinton Parameters, which was similar to the later Olmert Plan, though not quite as extensive.
Despite the vast concessions the plan required of Israel, Prime Minister Barak accepted President Clinton’s proposal, while Arafat refused, returned home, and launched a new terror campaign against Israeli civilians (the Second Intifada).
Despite the violence, Prime Minister Barak continued to negotiate to the end of his term, culminating in an Israeli proposal at Taba which extended the Clinton proposal. Barak offered the Palestinians all of Gaza and most of the West Bank, no Israeli control over the border with Jordan or the adjacent Jordan Valley, a small Israeli annexation around three settlement blocs balanced by an equivalent area of Israeli territory that would have been ceded to the Palestinians. As chief US negotiator Ambassador Dennis Ross put it in a Fox News interview:
… the Palestinians would have in the West Bank an area that was contiguous. Those who say there were cantons, completely untrue. It was contiguous… And to connect Gaza with the West Bank, there would have been an elevated highway, an elevated railroad, to ensure that there would be not just safe passage for the Palestinians, but free passage. (Fox News, April 21, 2002)
According to Ambassador Ross, Palestinian negotiators working for Arafat wanted him to accept the Clinton Parameters, but he refused. In response to Brit Hume’s question as to why Arafat turned these deals down, Ross said:
Because fundamentally I do not believe he can end the conflict. We had one critical clause in this agreement, and that clause was, this is the end of the conflict.
Arafat’s whole life has been governed by struggle and a cause. Everything he has done as leader of the Palestinians is to always leave his options open, never close a door. He was being asked here, you’ve got to close the door. For him to end the conflict is to end himself.
3. UN Resolution 181, the Partition Resolution, passed in November 1947, called for the creation of a Jewish state and an Arab state in the land which at that point was controlled by the British-run Palestine Mandate. All the Arab countries opposed the resolution, voted against it, and promised to go to war to prevent its implementation. Representing the Palestinians, the Arab Higher Committee also opposed the plan and threatened war, while the Jewish Agency, representing the Jewish inhabitants of the Palestine Mandate, supported the plan.
The Arabs and the Palestinians were true to their word and did launch a war against the Jews of Palestine, violating both Resolution 181 and the UN Charter. Much to the surprise of the Arab side, the Jews were able to survive the initial onslaughts and eventually win the war.
The fundamental fact remains that had the Arabs and the Palestinians accepted the Partition Resolution and not violated the UN Charter by attacking Israel, there would be a 63-year-old Palestinian state today next to Israel, and there would not have been a single Palestinian refugee.
Just as today, it seems that even in 1948 the Arab side was more concerned with opposing and attacking the Jewish state than with creating a Palestinian state.
Besides the above statehood opportunities, there were other notable opportunities that were missed too, such as the 1978 Camp David Accords between Israel and Egypt, which provided for Palestinian autonomy in the territories of the West Bank and Gaza. Egyptian President Anwar Sadat begged the PLO and Yasir Arafat to accept what he had negotiated with Israel, and to engage in talks with Israel. President Carter also called on moderate Palestinians to come forward and join the Cairo conference. Unfortunately Arafat refused and did everything he could to undermine Sadat and the Camp David Accords, with PLO gunmen even murdering West Bank Palestinians who supported Sadat’s approach.
While the Palestinian people have much to be frustrated about, the object of their frustration should be not Israel, but their own leaders, who have thrown away opportunity after opportunity to establish the Palestinian state they claim to desire above all else.
They had their chance to have their own free state. The Jews have offered them multiple multiple times to have their own state. They refused by asking to use free Palestine. You were basically saying you want to see all of the Jews dead that’s what it means to free Palestine. Those who want to free Palestine agree with Hitler. They agree that should’ve killed every single one of them. The Jews have been persecuted for at least five millennia, they had their homeland for maybe 500- 600 years of that. By saying, you don’t want to choose to have their homeland you are basically saying you want all the Jews killed. Unlike you, I don’t want to see all did you kill add to kind of like the Jews, so stop trying to kill him they have a Area about the size of New Jersey let them have it. If Palestinians want to live in harmony with the Jews in the state of Israel, I’m all for that stop trying to kill them. The Jews have nowhere else to go, but the grave.
really? do you support the freedom fighters who want a secular palestine in the west bank? or the freedom fighters who want a muslim palestine? different goals and groups. do you think abbas should allow elections now that his term had ended? where is the fuss about that freedom? and would people be free under a muslim palestine?
I want to see Palestine either truly independent, or Palestinians giving full rights as citizens of Israel. The present apartheid system is not acceptable. They've had 3 generations to work this out and have failed.
to ric, dont you remember? israel already agreed to all that. now the only delay is defining the border. arabs in west bank DID vote for an arab government called p. a. but where is the fuss about p. a. oppressing its citizens in many ways including no election when abbas term ended. it seems tho only fuss is when complain about jews.
@strateguy632 Which? Did Israel agree to full citizenship, or to an independent Palestinian state? Can't have both? How can there be reasonable borders when settlements are continuing?
The problem is that we tried that a few times and every time Israel gets attacked. Why is Israel surrounded by Muslim nations that care more about the destruction of Israel than the creation of an independent Palestinian state? If any of them were successful in destroying Israel they wouldn't turn around and create Palestine but rather incorporate the lands into their own country.
Have you not heard of the 1950 treaty that established Israel and Palestine as two separate states in the middle east. And how as soon as the British pulled out of the area all the Muslim nations joined together and declared war on Israel.
Britain, they conquered it so it was theirs to partition. Plus Palestine didn't exist before Britain created it. Whereas Israel had historical claims to the territory.
Dude, Palestine was on maps and coins going back before the Romans, and there were Palestinian passports in modern times.
And look up the history of Israel and Judah. Israel disappeared 2500 years ago, and it didn't include Jerusalem or what became known as Palestine.
You're just talking out your ass.
Okay, so when did the nation state of Palestine exist before the 1950s?
When did a nation state of Israel EVER exist? It was a small kingdom that lasted from 1030 to 722 bc. Judah separated from Israel around 920 bc and was conquered in 586 bc. The area was subsequently part of Assyrian, Roman and Ottoman empires.
Nation states are recent developments. "Although France after the French Revolution (1787–99) is often cited as the first nation-state, some scholars consider the establishment of the English Commonwealth in 1649 as the earliest instance of nation-state creation."
But you said Palestine never existed. Just because it was a region within various empires, most recently the Ottoman Empire until 1918, doesn't mean it never existed.
And how did England specifically name Palestine to be partitioned if it didn't exist prior to 1917?
You're basing your arguments on Zionist claims that God gave the region to the Jews, which is nonsense.
So you can come up with a time period in which Israel existed as a country, but not Palestine? Arguing about what constitutes a nation state is a distraction as I meant it as a general term synonymous for county, kingdom, empire, etc. But even with your specific definition, Egypt existed as a nation state as far back as 3000 B. C.
I would support it, but these people don't want a 2 state solution. They want to wipe Israel off the map.
Well if you can suggest a better place we could have relocated all those displaced Jews after WWII, I'm all ears?
Also, don't blame Israel, because your Amim al-Husseini was friends with Hitler.
I wonder why no nation wanted to take in all the Jewish refugees from WW2... and why at the Evian Conference of 1938, when 32 nations meant to discuss resettling Jews and moving from from NAzi Germany, no nation would take them in. Not one.
Why is that?
Down with Israel! Go Palestine!
@KostasKouvalis. Amim al-Husseini. ROFL Even if that's true, what's the relevance?
That invented narrative is a joke. Zionists are the best liars history.
If Israel was created to home supposedly displaced Jews after WWII why did the British promise Palestine to Lionel Rothschild in 1917?
The Rothschilds and their operatives had their sights on Palestine in the 1800s.
Where could displaced Jews go after WWII was over? The same place other people went. Jews didn't want to leave their homelands. They had to be coerced by Zionists to move to North Africa. Why did Zionists need people to immigrate to Palestine? Because they needed soldiers for their genocidal plan to create an ever expanding independent Taludic state.
to kost, exactly people should SEE the t shirts maps (and necklace maps all year) worn at student union elections , then they would see the plan and goal. when i tried to speak to the Dean about the t shirts, the secretaries tried to block my appointment at a certain college, so i had to directly contact the dean who agreed about the problem there.
There is no Palestine. It is like global warming , not there. There was a place called New Palestine created in 1948 but Jordan Annexed it. Israel is the smallest country in the world and still doesn't have room for all the Jews. So Saudi Arabia needs to provide land if your going to have a Palestine.
Why not?
I love the Palestinian people!
Of course I support their cause.
I think the government needs to provide more aid for the victims of the derailment in Palestine Ohio, that aid should be free.
I'm not sure I understand the post. Every country should be free, right?
Two local tribes who can't live in peace with each other...
I can't be bothered.
Yes I support Free Palestine. But don't ask me, Palestine has been recognized as a sovereign state by the UN since 2012.
Me and my country, Pakistan, support free Palestine
I definitely am. Jews don’t even deserve their own state to begin with
Why not?
Because they’re evil
There are eviler people thar have their own state. You must be a DemocRAT
@KostasKouvalis I don't know man. Surprised you don’t find it kinda messed up how Israeli maintains an Apartheid system
I am! How about make Palestine and Israel one state?
Palestine andd israel should both be free.
I'm jewish
What do you want exactly? You want Israel off the map? Jews driven into the sea?
I am everybody deserves to be free. Any life not lived on your terms isn't worth living
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there's not a country called Israel..
Israel =poop
Definitely
It's shameful that Britain amongst others gave the country away
Fuck Israel. Go Palestinians!
Go do protest on streets for free Palestine...😜
Invite me when you are planning to protest on streets instead of on gag I will join you 😜😜😜
Aww you're truly inspiration leader ma'am...
I wish I get opportunity to meet you so i can have your autograph. 😊
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fo sho
I stand with Isreal.
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