Why shouldn't we bring back crucifixion as a method of execution for violent convicts?

[Buffotine1996]

Before you come to me and say "because we're a civilized society", remind yourself that the world doesn't operate based on fairness or true equality or all that lofty stuff you were told as a kid by playing only by the rules. What I am saying is that I have no problem with people brutally crucified if they do heinous crimes such as a man hurting a child, hurting an animal, and my biggest one abusing, bullying or hurting someone with aspergers/autism. I have aspergers and I've been bullied as a kid and didn't have many friends growing up and I see people still treating autistic people with malice and cruelty just because some of us don't subscribe to stupid social morres that I find don't make sense.

If I was a king or dictator, I'd have anyone convicted of hurting or brutalized or murder a vulnerable autistic person with public crucifixion, and I'd make it more painful and agonizing then what Jesus christ went through. When a dog bites a child we put it down, when a grown man hurts a kid, prisoners rape him or kill him, but when an autistic person is abused or brutalized people laugh and it's disgusting and it makes western society look like philister garbage people with no morals or ethics.

[Soteris]

I mean, there is like a million different reasons why not and not a single reason in favor of it. Even if we ignore all the "moral" problems such as how we can't be sure it is actually the person responsible which means you are going to crucify innocent people or how the government should not be in the business of killing its own citizens, the cold hard truth is that it does not work.

Executions, in whatever form, has been proven to not deter future crime. It is pointless, outside of satisfying your primal desire for enacting some petty form of revenge at which point I WILL bring back "because we are a civilized society".

[Buffotine1996]

Then why did the Persians and romans and japanese do it if it didn't work?

[Soteris]

Well first of all, no one has accused humans of making any sense or of being correct. Secondly, executions has historically been highly political. Many kings and emperors has found it convenient to execute their opposition as an example.

[strateguy632]

actually france revoked its death penalty and the murder RATE increased... significant they were fools not to reinstated straight away

[strateguy632]

so that proved that the law had suppressed SOME until then.

[Soteris]

@strateguy632 No it does not. Governments dont just change a single thing and see what the results are. They spend basically their whole time in office changing, adding and removing policies as well as being subjected to outside situations like wars, disasters and whatnot.

You have not actually established a causation between the two, even assuming what you said is true in the first place. Best case scenario is that you committed a logical fallacy, specifically "Correlation does not imply causation".

My position against the death penalty is based on the overwhelming consensus within the scientific field of criminology and they have proven through statistical analysis (which would include whatever french data you just pointed towards) that the death penalty does not work.

[richardcory]

Do you think crucifixion which lasts just a few days is worse than decades of imprisonment, often with regular beatings and rapes? Watching your life disappear one day at a time? If you want severe punishment are you sure you can find anything more cruel than what we do now?

[Buffotine1996]

If you want something more cruel and painful there is the brazen bull and scaphism

[Agape93]

I can get behind that, long as you let me flay sex offenders alive before you crucify them.

[Flower7]

I don’t believe in the death penalty at all.

[CaptainSmartass]

Because crucifying people takes up space, and it takes ages for the person to die. Not to mention the fact the crosses have to be put up and taken down. It's a lot of work just for one execution. If you had to do that several times over, it would be back-breaking labour.

Simples...

[Buffotine1996]

The romans and the Persians did it, explain that

[strateguy632]

true, too much work

[OddBeMe]

Like Vietnam war footage on the news, we have pushed executions an arms length from public. Thus we aren’t offended at our government putting people to death. So in that way, crucifixtions would prob lessen capital punishment.

But either way, if we can’t guarantee one innocent person from being put to death, we shouldn’t be killing anyone.

[strateguy632]

first we must not, because then the judge and enforce are as evil as cruel criminals, for any crime. also half of them will turn into martyrs with cult followers claiming he was innocent leading to riots.

[AngryCarl2]

As an American surely you realize that would be unconstitutional. Or are you only familiar with the Second Amendment?

[mommymommymommy]

Because we're not jesus christ

[Buffotine1996]

Jesus wasn't the only person crucified

[mommymommymommy]

I realize that, but, i think people have a god complex when it comes to jesus. The think that if they're crucified, they'll "come back to life"

[Anonymous]

You apparently don’t understand the Constitution.

[Opinion Owner]

Now you’re just being fucking stupid.

[Opinion Owner]

You’re just looking for attention and using autism as an excuse for bad behavior. Get off the internet until you have some adult supervision.

[ManHater]

Oh yes!!! Child rapists too!

[Anonymous]

Sounds good to me.