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I know what you mean. Politically there's an unspoken expectation for men to be protectors, bread winners and to uphold society in a certain way, it sucks but what alternative is there? I rather be on the front lines than my mother or sister. Women feel disposable more so cause of how the patriarchy affects them directly but very few will acknowledge how it affects men as well.
Women aren't really familiar with the disparity of men and probably don't want to be because of how wronged they feel by men. Women typically feel that men think they're better than them, that men are intentionally oppressive and because of the men they're typically attracted to they assume most if not every guy is like that one jerk they dated.
A lot of them think if you voice your reality that it will negate theirs but the plight of men and women fuel each other. Women hold a completely different logic and they don't want to feel sorry for you, it's repulsive to them. They believe you think like they do, probably because of how boys and girls are socialized.
Women get attention from men from a very young age well into their 30s so yes, unfortunately they find men disposable. You can't blame them though, can't say men wouldn't act the same if the script was flipped. They don't want to acknowledge your struggles because it makes them feel responsible and they interpret that they're being asking them to fix men. The good news is that it's mostly just women on the internet.
As long as men are expected to sign up for the draft but men and women are both allowed to vote, there is a fundamental inequality where men are solely expected to fight and die for the political rights of both genders. Why didn't feminists raise an issue during the ongoing Russo-Ukranian conflict when only men (18-55 fighting age) were prevented from being evacuated or when the Russians drafted only men? - Men form the absolute bulk of those who are homeless, workplace injuries and deaths, alimony and childcare is also awarded against men in most family court cases. So I think that the hierarchy of society goes like this.
1. Tiny fraction of powerful men
2. Women
3. Above average men (top 10%)
4. Average men.
5. Below average men.
I will say this when it comes to voting rights in America. If men aren't automatically given voting rights unless they are legally forced to sign up for selective services as soon as they hit age 18 while women dont have to sign up for selective services nor make any sort of compromises whatsoever, then I don't see why women should have voting rights automatically given to them on a silver platter.
LOL oh honey...
women have been stepped on, forced to shape to social norms, forced to please social media, if outside of the norms you become outcasted... ain't no way any male has ever faced this. if anything, leo dicaprio has basically shown that any girl above the age of 25 is just disposed of and trash after that because they're seen as "old". give me a break! lmao.
Disagree. I’m not sure what rubbish is filling your brain currently to make this a question, but it’s really sad. Just look around at all of the great relationships many people are having. Be adaptable and smart and you’ll go a whole lot further in life.
Ironically some more eastern cultures tend to view their women that way though.
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68.5% of CEOs are men
72% of politicians are men
women earn 18% percentage less in salary/compensation than men
that's just the tip of the iceberg so i'd need to hear some points why mean are seen as a disposable commodity
· Most homeless are men
· Most work related deaths are men
· Most suicide victims are men
· Men have to sign draft papers at 18
· Men get longer prison sentences for the same crimes a woman does
· Men lose most child custody battles
· Men have no say in abortion but if she keeps it, he's obligated to stay
@BlackBats95 Assuming you live in America, you have no clue what real oppression is. Go live out in the middle east like iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. You won't survive over there sweet heart
@Chthou95
Most homeless are men
--- what does this have to do with women
· Most work related deaths are men
do women force men into these jobs
· Most suicide victims are men
- how does this suggest men are disposable?
· Men have to sign draft papers at 18
- and why is that? because men create laws and believed for centuries that women were incapable of combat
· Men get longer prison sentences for the same crimes a woman does
- this is because of social constructs around gender, not because people say men are disposable
· Men lose most child custody battles
- how does this suggest men are disposable
· Men have no say in abortion but if she keeps it, he's obligated to stay
-men don't have a say in abortion? look at the laws coming down on abortion right now... who's making them? it ain't women
The argument im making is that if oppression is real, men suffer from it more than women. The argument can be made that men oppress other men while giving women all the help they need. And I've already said in another post that women have a place in the military, just not combat.
That's because in order to be in those position, they have to fight and burden themselves regardless of the situation so it's not even that easy. So they only have value if they do something big and risky. And if you only like to look at CEOs and those politicians, that's survivorship bias because there are many other men who tries to get those position but they fail and those are the men who are at the bottom and those CEOs and Politicians don't really benefit the average men in any meaningful way. An average man are just seen as low class, worthless, creeps, "beta males" or whatever for just simply making a living. Men by default just aren't loved unconditionally like women and children.
@Inbox boo hoo
@BlackBats95 you're not oppressed because of your gender but because you're stupid af
@Silver158 LOL
@BlackBats95 Aww, are you going to cry Ms. Misandrist?
@Inbox thank fuck I'm mostly gay.
@BlackBats95 Good, we don't have to worry about you breeding.
@BlackBats95 you have no basis to say anything like that false accuser. Stop thinking collectively if you can't see people as individuals then your morals are. On existant.
@Inbox I can still get pregnant lmao. I'll let you try and figure it out.
@BlackBats95 you just said you have a preference for women mostly - I’ll let you try and figure it out LMFAO!!!
@Chthou95 My comment or @BlackBats95 ?
@Inbox sperm donors exist you dumb ass lol
@BlackBats95 So do surrogates, but that's assuming you're partner even wants that or you do. I feel bad for the future children. Like I said before, please don't breed, the world has enough walking read flags.
@Inbox I feel bad for future men. These sexust straight fucks teaching young boys to hate women.
I dont want kids you dolt
@BlackBats95 Then why make a comment about artificial pregnancy? Fucking dumbass LOL I seriously hope this isn’t your best
@Inbox awww angry white man funny. Too easy
@BlackBats95 I’m not white - what’s it like being less useful to the world than COVID?
@Inbox still replying? Awwwwww so triggered
@BlackBats95 Actually it’s you that started replying to me. Your responses are boring, you can go now.
@Inbox lol awww this was too easy
@BlackBats95 lmao don't try to play it off. If you call someone an oppressor when they are trying to bring up genuine issues due to baseless claims then people have a right to be mad at you.
I guess you're just too far gone, you've been indoctrinated with idiotic collectivist mentalities that are intellectually bankrupt as well as morally stupid.
Have fun with that. (And no before you assume I like the right or I'm a conservative or republican your wrong).
@BlackBats95 What was too easy --- you replying and constantly contradicting yourself like a typical Feminist? LOL I get it though, you're an unfuckable loser who can't get a man to save her life, so she was forced to settle for women - then again, you know what they say about women who have 2 mosquito bites... they get skipped LMFAO!!!
@Inbox i thought you were done lmao
@BlackBats95 When did I say that? Getting desperate are we now? Being on the losing side must suck lmfao
@Inbox really need that last word huh? <3
Western society sees men as the only threat to their way of life :
ok so we all know a man’s natural role as head of the family
so let’s remove him
how?
we will create programs for women
if they can make their own money they won’t “need a man”
What about the children?
oh well the man will try to protect them
so we will make laws that strongly favor the woman
then the kids are next on the chopping block just flood their minds with porn, drugs and depravity
make them confused about their gender and sexuality
tell them that traditional gender roles are oppressive
feed them junk and keep them weak and lazy
the mother will be too busy with all of her new found wealth to worry with child rearing
she will just let money raise her children and turn them into entitled narcissistic sociopaths
Agree. Observe the situation in Ukraine as an example. Women get to leave the country whilst men 18-60 are barred from leaving legally and have to join the Ukrainian armed forces, equality of the sexes is a complete lie that gets abandoned during times of crises where suddenly men are expected to pick up the slack and protect women as they are expected to under patriarchal rules (I thought these were meant to be bad?) So Ukrainian women get to move to Western countries as refugees and go to clubs and get drunk whilst their brothers and fathers die in ditches. This is true equality.
Disagree.
women are the weaker sex in almost every way. Its almost just men that are leading nations. buildings have been built by men, the roads you see, almost everything of it.
some guy mentioned the ukraine story, and for a good reason women are being sent away. They are just the weaker sex. Im not saying that to stir up shit. In times like these gender equality will be gone because deep down we all know men and women aren't equal, they have different roles in society. You won't send women to war, just like how you won't send (most) men to babysit.
Lmao in every culture men have always been higher valued, have more opportunities and power than women, only losers who live with their parents and and watch porn all day come to these ridiculous conclusions.
@Deserter And why are most homeless people men? Because they either have mental health issues they choose not to get help for or they are an addict of some sort. If your parents love you, you can depend on them if they don't you are on your own. That is the same for both men and women, the only reason less women are homeless is because the government has more things to protect women because we are the weaker gender and the fact women can sell their bodies to get by. But really if more men would suck a few dicks or date old rich ladies they could get by too LOL Toughen up, and stop being little bitches, that fact men act weak is the fact most mass shooters are men who are pathetic and can't handle they are little bitches. Look at men in "the great depression" they were super hard workers they were starving but still they tried their best to get jobs to look after their families, learn from the amazing men of the past and stop whining it is so unattractive because that is a feminine trait..
You are so delusional it's insane. The fact the government protects women proves they're privileged. Men need to suck dick to not be homeless? That's your soloution? Men can't just get a rich women, most struggle to get any women. This is why nobody takes your gender seriously. No empahy and joke solutions
@Deserter You know men who are older than you do not complain about being privileged.. it shows you are a weak man. Men were made to take care of women and children because we need to be protected we are weaker, other men kill and rape us. It isn't privilege it is your primal instinct lol Just like lioness hunt and kill the food and the the male protects the whole pride. These are our roles and jobs they have always been this way since the beginning of time if you can't handle it expect to go no where because you are weak and can't make it in the world because you are full of excuses.
No lol. A woman that lives with her parents can still be wanted and accepted by men and other people. People really won't judge you. Women have lee way to be losers and still be successful in a lot of areas still. When you're a man you dont get any of this. If you're a loser as a man, you're a fucking loser and no one will notice you or even want to help you out. Men and women are different
@Deserter I know my place, it seems like you don't know yours since you are the one whining, making excuses and thinking the world owes you something.. sadly life isn't fair we each get something difficult to deal with but it is how you over come it that proves your worth. If you can't over come it you will always be a little bitch. You don't have to stay that way though you can always choose to change. :D
@Deserter I did submit to my man.. I don't need to submit to others..
Maybe stop chasing Instawhores and OF trash and maybe you wouldn't feel like shit and you might find a woman willing to submit lol :P
@Deserter I'm sure you don't... then why are you such a sad pathetic boy?
@Deserter Lmao says the 28 yo loser who can't get laid
FYI I was never a whore and the pussy isn't flappy.. you little dick virgin..
@Deserter Lmao if only you ever got to put your dick in a girl you would realize fast that you can not satisfy with that size..
@Deserter I make dinner you ass clown, he could easily beat me up if he wanted to. I don't have too much T you just have too much E.
@Deserter Stop describing what YOU like to me, I have no interest in fucking your ass...
@Silver158 I already explained this... men protect women and children we all have roles.. the reason being is because without women where are more babies gonna come from? Who is gonna raise said babies? Be heroic and stop wanting to be treated like women or go be Trans and get the same privileges if you are so desperate..
@Silver158 How is that contradicting? We carry them for 9 months it is mens job to protect us.. you are supposed to be strong enough to protect us and yourself.. when your wife dies who watches your children most likely you will have to pay someone to do it or get a new partner, it will not be you.
@Deserter Who said I'm feminine? Im not really but I still do my wifely duties lmao
Who said the women wouldn't? Find a good one and she would, find a bad one and she won't share the door with you LOL
@Deserter Well it isn't like I want to be appealing to men in the first place or all I have to do is act cute and dumb and post half dressed pics and I would be crawling in dick..
Sure why not.. LMAO
@Silver158 Most people here still would rather have a son than a daughter. Why? because women get married they help look after their husbands parents and they leave where as your son is supposed to look after his parents. You get paid better, you rule the world, women need men to do the hard shit... Who almost always do the hard jobs, like sewage work, build roads, build houses, build buildings it is men. Without you goofs the world wouldn't be what it is.. we would have nothing lol We can only be pampered if there is men to pamper and protect us. We need you.. you don't need us.. except for sex.. Men are more valued women are just more protected.
Come on guys ! Fair go..
Women in basically every culture have been suppressed for years , look at CEO genders , Politicians , Forbes 500 , countless other examples. Women have been represented as some kind of sexual force to control , I hardly think men can complain.
This question pops up weekly. You sure you don't already have you answer already from all your previous attempts?
disagree. you're speaking of "society", that's objectively wrong. if you'd be speaking about media, then yes, cause obviously the media has an agenda. but actual people (you know these individual bits that make up a society) aren't like that.
Oh don't kid yourself they are indeed very much like that. Just confront a relative feminist over their feminism and feminist beliefs. First they will deny they are a feminist and they will be scorned and when they attack your character behind your back and others who take her side see you as a outcast then you will get the point.
@CB-Raido-Time how many people in your personal circle are die hard feminazi sjws or they/thems I don't know anyone. I only see them in the media.
Women are human beings, men are human doings. It's disgusting and I would never put a woman's life over my own outside of my wife or a daughter. I never understand why some simps would risk their lives or die for women they don't know. People hate when I say this, but if I were on the Titanic I would kill anyone between me and the lifeboat or die trying.
If that's how you feel, you've got a problem with government and not women.
Women aren't the ones who can conscript you, or force you into low wage shit jobs.
Close the internet and get into the real world... we got many privileges, obviously also some disadvantages and discrimination, but nothing comparable to what you wrote in your question, indeed, it is almost the opposite, or at least it was until a few decades ago, now the situation is more equal
Who are you referring to as (we)? If you are referring to (men), name one of those privileges.
@CB-Raido-Time Your question is so stupid that it doesn't even deserve an answer, so obvious is the existence of numerous advantages of being born a man rather than a woman, anyway I'll provide one as you asked: man earn more money than women while doing the same jobs, check the datas on google if you dont trust me. Want another example? Women victims of rape or harassment are 1 out of 5, men 1 out of 73. We can go around the streets at night knowing that the worst that can happen to us is being robbed, as happens to women too, we don't risk that a stranger will push his penis into our body against our will. There are facts, not opinions... check the datas if you want to argue more otherwise drop the discussion...
the only advantages men have are physical advantages which are not inherently linked to gender.
the gender wage gap has been already been debunked. men work more hours in more dangerous jobs that pay higher
female victims are more likely to report being harassed or assaulted than male victims due to social stigma and shaming that comes from it. video below shows why this the case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw
strangers don't go around pushing their penises into places. choosing to worry about these things is not a gender advantage/disadvantage
If there's one thing I hate it's lies and next up is repeated lies. Forget propagoogle, the EEOC, have you hear of it? The letters stand for Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. And that's where reports of unfair wages are reported and have been for over 50 years. You see, what you described isn't discrimination it's illegal. You also failed to name the companies the employers or the employees named in the complaint IE there is no victim to prove your point. And that aside were you ever informed that at one time men were suppose to be the providers of the household while women were suppose to be the caretakers and homemakers? Now 50 years later after the above laws were put in place and women foreigners have pushed men out of the workforce by taking the jobs men needed to provide for their families the way men were expected to do, well that seems to have put men in a impossible position hasn't it?
You do also realize statistics can not be relied on since women falsely file reports for things like rape and abuse in order to gain the upper hand on men to win things like child custody in divorce court which is provable even their attorneys coach other attorney's how to go about it and coach women to do it too and there are many but I will provide one such video right now a attorney coaching others how to go about accusing men of crimes men haven't committed. And guess what? Once women accuse men of those crimes that opens the door for some stranger to stick his penis into his body not to mention all the other things that go with it while he's in jail. Additionally I don't just check dates I check for facts and validity so I have the absolute truth.
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I sure hope you have learned something today so the same old lies and propaganda stop getting repeated and men once again can stop being abused and mistreated. When you live in a society of men that don't want women anymore don't even want anything to do with women anymore, you must ask yourself how bad would things have to get in order for that to happen.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/M-Dtcvqcjc8/
@CB-Raido-Time I dont live in such a society, nor does anybody else in the REAL world, maybe, as i already said, you need to close the internet and go touch some grass cause what you're saying is really foolish and since it's clear you pretend to know it better than anybody else, and as you said even statistics can't change your mind cause you dont want to believe them, this discussion as no point. Please ask for help if your so angry with women. Out there is full of people, men and women with zero problems in hanging out with each other. You're the one who lives in is own fantasy world.
Is there something wrong with your eyes your ears or is it your thinking cap? I hand you solid proof and you still refuse to acknowledge and it's beginning to reveal your leftist Marxist agenda. I put the video there for you to watch so you have no excuse not acknowledging what I say is true I'm sure anyone else that bothers to watch it can see your are off track. Additionally that is the result when employers violates the wage laws. https://www.eeoc.gov/
@CB-Raido-Time Leftist marxist agenda cause i acknowledge the reality of women rights? You seriously nedd help, I just hope you're not too young cause you sound like the kind of guy who could do a madness in schools, if you know what I mean... Anyway I watched the video, it's 1 person giving bad advices, ONE... come on man, ask for help, you just hate women cause you dont understand them... I've had 3 girlfriends and zero problems in starting and ending a relationship with them, nor I hate them. Again: you live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. Men and Women live happily in peace out there, in the REAL world, one, 100 or even 1 million of bad apples dont make the apples all bad... otherwise Mexicans should be all drug dealers, Italians all involved in Mafia, Russians all bodybuilders, Germans all right wingers... come on, there are nuances in life. Anyway you'll never understand me, you'll keep thinking you're right and I'm wrong so there's no point in talking. I give up, you're the best, totally right, thanks for your wisdom and goodbye, live happily
I never felt it that way, and frankly, there's nothing for me even pointing in that direction.
Yes, but who you are matters more than what society is. Only victim types believe that destiny is not in their own hands. Don't be a victim.
"loser" is a matter of perspective based on who they're comparing to whom. a millionaire would be a loser compared to a billionaire. Kwame Brown would be a loser compared to Michael Jordan. plumbers would be losers compared to rappers etc.
sure you can go out and be a fighter for yourself. then what will you do if they go after the people you care about?
the question doesn't pertain to how the individual sees themselves, only what society sees the individual. you might not care about what society thinks of you but neither do a lot of those stuck behind bars and society will force you to care whether you like it or not
if no one truly cared about what others think, they'd be a lot more lawbreakers in this world instead of law abiding citizens
It is not 'western society'at all, but children of mother who at some point used contraceptive and/or abortion pills.
All such children (and adults) are half-alive, zombie, not living at all and unable to get alive.
It’s true, just watch- the more young men that drop out of the dating and job markets, the more the government is going to start to panic and will inevitable resort to using the stick instead of the carrot.
They're not going to panic, it's part of their plan.
I think it's the crowd you surround yourself with. Some women will treat you that way, but as soon as they do, cut them off; you'll be in a better place
Sorry you're going to be single forever but feel free to keep it to yourself
Yes keep it to yourself women don't like to hear the truth especially when it comes to accountability.
Thats the opinion of boys who can't get any.
Of? course. If you're not doing whats expected from you as man, people and society don't give a shit about you. You have to be something otherwise you're expendable
It's true, but we must reach outside the borders to counter this
Oh boo hoo! Are we supposed to feel sorry for you? Real men don't complain or whine.
Yes it's sad. Sexism is such a shame. People need to get a life.
No, that is how the Elitists look at the peasants.
And I mean just the disposable part. They don't really care about women who are not part of the Elitist Circle. either.
I don’t understand why so many guys are obsessed with some fictitious gender war in the west
I wonder why you guys see the world like this? Seems very sad perspective to have in life.
if you are a bee or ant, you can say that but if you are a seal or lion, men have more female and they are above woman
It proves that you are a bug
I love when troll posts never get removed.
That's incel talk there, bub.
Disagree
The draft is a literal example of this.
You sound very unhappy with your life
Absolutely agree.
Um. No. What?
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