Due to an increase in teacher shortages/ teachers quitting their jobs due to burnout, what are some ways to prevent this?

[Lucy68]

As someone who's mom is a teacher, have family friends who have did/are currently still teaching, and have friends that did teaching for a year, I've have heard some horror stories of children being extremely disrespectful (i. e., I heard them say teachers will spit at the teachers, kick and scream at the teachers, etc), and the parents refuse to do anything about the bad behavior. And the parents most of them don't care about their child's education but just want them out of the house and out of their hair (unfortunately this is true cause I've witness parents saying this multiple times). Now teachers are done with the abuse from both students and parents, and not only quitting from burnout but quitting cause it's not worth it anymore. So what do you think needs to done? So far anyone can be a teacher and schools are now cutting school time from not only kids attending schools 3-4 hours a day but now considering school only opening 4 days a week (Tuesday through Friday).

[Jamie05rhs]

It's truly horrible. Our entire civilization is collapsing. Parents don't discipline their children, and they expect the teachers to do that for them. Then when the teachers DO try to correct their little monstrous devil spawn, they lash out at the teachers and threaten them with administrative punishment. I TOTALLY get teachers being burnt out, and I totally get them not wanting to do the job anymore. I don't blame them AT ALL! Shoot, being a teacher is almost as bad as being a cop these days! ... And people wonder why the youth are going to the Prison Pipeline. It's because they don't behave in school, they don't learn, they don't respect their elders, they aren't taught any sense of decency or morality, they don't learn the Golden Rule or the Ten Commandments, and they are groomed into being little thugs (due to their only role models being thugs)! And of course they aren't taught personal responsibility nor financial management. So that, coupled with zero education (due to dropping out or just not paying attention in class), leaves them without the needed tools to pursue the American dream! So should we really cry when they receive the death penalty for shooting someone and killing them in a street fight? Their life was wasted anyway! However, it is still sad. It's tragic, actually. It breaks my heart.

[Lucy68]

That's what everyone I know keeps saying, parents don't want to discipline their children and expects the teacher too. But when they discipline they're ready to sue the school and demand the teacher be fired. It's a damn if you damn if you don't situationm. It's saddening.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Lucy68 Exactly.

[Jamie05rhs]

Thanks for the MHO!

[RealMarek]

We cannot have compulsory education without discipline. Teachers used to be able to use corporal punishment to maintain order in the classroom. This gave them a way to force even the most uncooperative, poorly raised student to respect their authority. This was necessary even when America was a society of rather strictly self-disciplined people with stable family and clan structures that had strict parenting compared with today’s standards. America today is highly disordered by contrast and the level of self-discipline among Americans is comparitively low.

Without the ability to force students to submit to the teacher’s authority, there is no way to maintain order in the classroom except for permanent expulsion of unruly students and making school a place only for those students who want to be in the classroom.

[AmeerX]

Wow, I wonder where you live because in my country teachers are pretty much the least burdened. They can beat a kid even and the burnout is relatively less.

The teacher shortages are really due to a tougher selection criteria in your country.

By the way, I wanted to be a teacher too. Then my university called me in for an interview and was I a fool or what. They rejected me as a preplanned selection was under way 😡. Well, good riddance to them. I taught more people without the label of a teacher

[Lucy68]

Unfortunately it's a problem in America. It happened during the 2020 pandemic. I want kids someday but really don't know if I should homeschool my kids/hire a homeschool teacher

[AmeerX]

Send them to school. Why won't you want to send them to school?

[Lucy68]

School shootings, teachers not wanting to teach anymore, we went from "no child left behind" to "fuck them kids", schools refusing to teach math, literature, and history because it's now deemed, and I kid you not, "racist", and science because of its "corrupting our children". As someone who's a history lover and has a Bachelor of Science degree and obtaining a master's degree in clinical mental health I don't know how to feel about that statement. And with homeschooling, I have a few friends that are currently homeschooling their kids and they said it was the best decision they ever made, and they send their kids to extracurricular activities and learning pods so they can interact with other kids and obtain extra help.

[AmeerX]

I am feeling you are overthinking the situation. If your kid is bright and has been given intelligence from God, he will be able to learn a great many things but if he is a dunce then the best of best teachers won't be able to do anything.

Teachers are supposed to give students a habit of learning. if a teacher can't do that then he or she isn't a good teacher

[Lucy68]

I don't have children, but when I do I just want the best for them especially education wise. Public school well @Jamie05rhs described it perfectly in one of my old questions. Private school is a little better but it seems like they're becoming part of the domino effect and getting hit with the same problem as the public schools.

[Jamie05rhs]

Thanks, @Lucy68! And I agree with everything you said.

@AmeerX You just don't understand the culture here. You really do need to visit the U. S. sometime. I can show you some things.

[Lucy68]

@Jamie05rhs it's just people aren't looking at the best interest for kids anymore. Parents need to discipline their children, I'm not saying beat the kids there are other ways parents can discipline them. That's why parents who are raising their kids are going to be the ones to suffer. Teachers are burnt out and the school system not only failed the kids but they've given up on them. I remember when teachers loved teaching but that was because parents were parents and not friends and parents would also teach their kids at home. Now parents are expecting the teachers to teach AND discipline their children. Example, my mom and her friends are Pre-K teachers, and apparently it's now the teachers responsibility to not only teach and discipline the children but to potty trained them (these kids are like 4-6 years old and not even potty trained) cause according to the parents they "didn't feel like it" and "it's too hard". And that's why my mom and her friends are burnt out plus the schools are now micromanaging everything. They're expected to be parents and teachers with a class if 15-25 students with 20 of them not potty trained and can barely use a spoon and drink from an actual cup (I kid you not). They're burnt out and my mom and her friends they used to love it, but now not anymore.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Lucy68 Wow

[Lucy68]

@Jamie05rhs that's what I said 😞

[AmeerX]

Private schools or Public. If the problem is in the society then nothing is immune.
Anyways, I am not a fan of private schools. In my country the private schools are bad and an exhorbitant financial burden on the people.
Just don't want to say it but really no one has been able to prove if one is better than the other because private schools is not even 50% of the country and mostly an elite phenom

[Anonymous]

Hire teachers that are more passionate about helping there students learn. You don’t go into teaching for the comfort and money. You go because you want to help mold young minds…I’m burnt out at my job at times. Long hours away from family. Sometimes working 7-days a week. And get this.. I don’t even get summers off.. burnt out.. please.. grow a pair

[Lucy68]

They don't hate teaching it's just parents need to discipline their kids, and not expect the teacher to do it. And if they expect the teachers to do it they need to stop threatening the teachers. I'm really really sorry to hear that about you. But parents need to discipline the children and not let them run wild and then yell/threaten the teacher when they bring it up. Again they didn't/don't hate teaching, and they do care for the kids, it's the parents that need to be parents and teach the children respect.

[Stacey55666]

1. Dump government schools

2. Brick & mortar schools are obsolete.

3. I've learned more online than I ever did in public education or college

4. Dump the teacher's union

5. Dump the unconstitutional Department of Education.

[gorydetails]

Education is another thing leftism has destroyed. These teachers who get abuse from students and parents are also the biggest liberals on the planet. Liberals are weak. How do you expect to be protected by your admin if your leadership are all pansies?

We don't want to hurt Johnnie's feelings and you're a racist if you suspend him, so of course he acts like an animal in class with no respect for anything.

[In_Trance]

There's no point to preventing this. There entire education system can easily be replaced with Youtube

[Cubus]

Increasing payment. But this won;t happen

[Lucy68]

THIS, increase teachers pay and get a hold of these kids.

[gorydetails]

New Jersey is a higher-paying state, but teachers in NJ average $63k a year - Average salary is $58k in NJ. If you extrapolate 63k out to someone working 12 months out of the year (let's not forget they get the summer off), that's a $75k salary a year. PLUS being able to retire with full benefits after 30 years of employment. So someone 54 could retire and double-dip until they got tired of doing it.

Do New Jersey teachers experience this malaise compared to other states?

[MikeTheBartender]

Money.