In my country military service is still compulsory, to avoid it I said I was a transgender woman , does that make me a coward?

[Anonymous]

I told them that I felt like a woman and that I was going to start a transition, thanks to which I was able to avoid military service. But now they want proof that I'm taking the necessary steps.

[Snakeyes7]

I'd say it depends on what they are going to have you do. If it is completely pointless, then I would say that it's not complete cowardice to change your identity.

The best part is, I doubt you have to do anything besides just saying you are and at most having to change your ID. You don't actually have to believe you are a woman.

Although this trick might not work for long. Ukraine and the US said they don't care what you identify as, you're going to war if they command you to, the bigots.

[Meropatrick]

U can get breast implants for few months then remove them i think its the only thing that is reversable. Show up in the military addmission office with dem titties for proof.

[Meropatrick]

Also u can pretend that u took the hormones shot but then throw it away. I dont know how harmful taking those hormones for a man. U nees to ask about it. Ask the doctor that in case u detransition will these hormones affect u

[Asker]

I must provide a certificate from my doctor stating that I am taking the hormones. I already have an appointment with a doctor to start the treatment.

[Meropatrick]

Just ask the doctor in case u ever detransitioned like some trans women have change of heart. How will the hormones affect u. U need to know that. If they will affect u mildly which i think its true then do it.

[KatherineJ]

So to avoid serving your country you’ll have to spend the rest of your life being paid less than you would have been. You’ll have to get used to sexist comments, and being treated like you are inferior. Guess what, GIRL, you brought it on yourself. Now go and pretty yourself up, and get used to the situation that you created for yourself.

[Asker]

Wow, you have no empathy for me. I don't want to become a woman but now because of my lie I have no choice. Today I had an appointment with a specialist, he will issue me the prescription so I can start hormone treatment and I will bring the proof to the military office. I've also had to get rid of all my men's clothes... I have to put on make-up etc. It's not easy to live

[KatherineJ]

No I don’t! My husband is a combat wounded veteran. So you lied to avoid serving your country. You claimed to be transgender. While I have absolutely nothing against trans people, I do have issues when someone claims to be something in order to get out of their obligations. Now then, every girl or woman out there will tell you that being female sometimes has its own hard times. So guess what, sweetie-you are going to learn it the hard way! Or, come clean, do your time, and move on. Or spend the rest of your life in skirts and dresses, and maybe on the arm of a cute guy. (If you are lucky).

[Asker]

Well, lot of respect to your husband. I didn't think they'd ask for proof, that's why I told the lie.

Unfortunately I can't go back because if I tell them I lied, they'll make me regret it bitterly.

[KatherineJ]

It’s ok to cry now, girl.

[Asker]

Yes, I've cried because now I have to assumed my lie and become a woman. But I know what you're going to say, you're going to tell me that if I cry, it's because I'm already a girl 😔

[KatherineJ]

No, I’m saying that now that you are going to be a girl, it’s ok to cry. Sometimes, it’s one of the best things about being a girl. You’ll see.

[KatherineJ]

@asker-is your mom helping you out with your clothing choices? Maybe your sister, or a girlfriend? Imagine, a whole new wardrobe! I’m kinda jealous!

[Asker]

@KatherineJ I don "t have a sister and my mother tells me to accept the consequences of my actions.
I'll try to help myself through videos. The only time I'm jealous is when I see men leading their lives as men, while me I have to learn how to put on makeup, dresses and so on. 😔

And I wrote to gag to get pink account

[KatherineJ]

Every girl’s first best friend is her mom. Videos on YouTube can’t be nearly as helpful with how to live as a woman as your mom is going to be. Trust me, it’s not just clothes and makeup that you need help with.

[Asker]

@KatherineJ You're probably right, I don't know. I'm a bit lost, to be honest. It's not easy to adapt and understand how all the women's things work.

[KatherineJ]

Well, now you’ll get to learn. Think about it as an adventure that’s going to last for the rest of your life.

[Asker]

Well, I don't have a choice, so yes, I'd learn to live like a woman. But to be honest it's very hard for me to accept this situation. I can never be a man again 😔

[KatherineJ]

Girl, you are no longer a man. Accept it, and embrace it!

[KatherineJ]

So, how tall are you? Do you know your dress size yet?

[Asker]

I am 1m73 tall. I am a size 41 in shoes and a size M in clothes.

[KatherineJ]

Ok, so 5’8?

[Asker]

Yeah

[KatherineJ]

And is that a M in Women’s?

[Asker]

No, it's my men's clothing size

[KatherineJ]

Ask your mom to help you figure out your new sizes! You’ll have to be measured.

[Asker]

I don't understand, my size is not going to change, M is going to stay M, I'm not going to shrink or grow.

[KatherineJ]

You do realize that Women’s sizes are different, right?

[Asker]

I understand that women come in different sizes, but my size is not going to change.

[KatherineJ]

You are an M in MEN’S clothes. You could very easily be a L in Women’s.

[Asker]

I've made some enquiries, I need to choose either L or XL, depending on how the clothes fit.

[KatherineJ]

Exactly. My advice is to take your mom with you so when you try things on, she will tell you what flatters your body shape.

[Asker]

Ok ,

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 found a super cute outfit for you.

[Julie4]

Look , it's for You.

www.google.com/imgres

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 I’m thinking at 5’8 she probably would look better in a maxi or midi dress.

[Asker]

Omg, it's so feminine. My life has really gone to shit. I'm going to have to get used to wearing this stuff.

[KatherineJ]

Well, you told your government that you wanted to be a girl. So guess what, Sister! Your life is either going to get girly, or you can spend that time in the army and in prison for your lies. It’s a simple choice, girl!

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 I like this one for her better:

www.lulus.com/.../887402.html

[Asker]

I could never tell my government that I lied, prison Turk is hell, and in addition to my military service I risk being sent to the front.

Can you please stop reminding me at every turn that I'm a "girl"? 😤

Is this really the kind of outfit I should be wearing right now? 😔

[KatherineJ]

Well, if you don’t change your mind like soon, those hormones ARE going to change you in ways that are more than cosmetic. So yeah, I am going to keep reminding you of your place. And hey, they are both really cute outfits, so what are you complaining about?

[Asker]

Well, to be honest, it hurts my male ego. And yes they are pretty dresses for women, Before , I loved to see my girlfriends wearing this kind of outfit.

[KatherineJ]

Well, guess what! That’s something you should have thought about before lying to your country, girl! I have a feeling that you will enjoy how they feel on you even more than seeing them on another girl.

[Asker]

Oh yes I know I lied and I'll regret it all my life for having made that stupid lie. I'm going to be a woman because of it and it makes me cry. But how could I have guessed that my government will demand proof? 😔

No I don't think these clothes will fit of course me, but I guess that's what I'll have to wear now

[KatherineJ]

Well, it’s the life that YOU told them that you wanted, so you are getting it. Time to accept and embrace it. I think you’ll actually like becoming a girl. And in time, you’ll get used to the clothes, and hopefully find a man to take care of.,

[Asker]

I'm not even attracted to men. I'm only interested in women

[KatherineJ]

You say that now. Wait until the hormones kick in.

[KatherineJ]

Besides, I don’t think it’s safe to be anything but heterosexual in Turkey.

[Asker]

Oh yes in Turkey it's better to be hetero. But wow will hormones really change me like that? It's terrifying. And the doctor's going to give me access to hormones soon.

[KatherineJ]

Well, I’m not sure they can, but estrogen is powerful. And let’s face it, you live in a country that it’s probably safer for you to date men than women. So just accept that you might fall in love with a guy and enjoy all of the benefits that come along with being a girlfriend. And maybe in time, wife.

[Asker]

Of course, my life will be easier if I date a man, if I date a woman, we'll be considered a gay couple and we'll be hit.

But I despair of having to go out with a man, whereas I was a man who went out with many women, I was a real womanizer.

[KatherineJ]

Well, now you get to be on the other side of the skirt. You will have an advantage though, since you know what men like.

[Asker]

I know what men think and like because I'm a man too, but women in our society don't carry much weight.

[KatherineJ]

You mean you WERE a man. Now you are going to be a woman. So you better get used to the fact that in your society you are going to be less than a man. You asked for it, so now you’ll get to live it.

[Asker]

Just explain one thing to me. Why does it make you happy that I'm forced to become a woman?

[KatherineJ]

Personally, I don’t care either way. But it’s what you told your government you wanted. So I’m cheering for you to be happy in the life that you said you want. And yes, I am being blunt with you because you might just wish you had done the prison sentence, and military service. Being a woman isn’t as easy as you seem to think, so now that you are going to discover it the hard way, I hope that you can embrace and enjoy it as much as possible.

[Julie4]

And to be honest me and @KatherineJ we are a happy about what happened to you because you lied, that by lying you disrespected all the men who did their service. So you lied and said you were a woman? Well, my darling, you're about to become one 😊

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 and I think once she loses that male ego, she is going to learn to enjoy it.

[SaoirseS]

Going to the extreme of altering your gender and body for the rest of your life to shirk a couple years of military service? What are you afraid of?

[Asker]

Well, after the service they often send us to the front. I don't want to die. Then to be honest, I don't want to become a transgender woman, but I didn't know they were going to require me to start the steps to begin my sex change. So now I have to do it

[SaoirseS]

What front are you talking about?

[Asker]

Against the Kurds

[Mikemyth561]

Haha he can say goodbye to his life as a man 🤣

[SaoirseS]

What do your countrymen think of people who take steps to avoid obligatory military service?

[Asker]

They consider people who want to avoid military service to be cowards.

[SaoirseS]

Then there’s your answer.

[Asker]

Do you also think that makes me a coward?

[SaoirseS]

It doesn’t matter what I think, I don’t live there. You’re the one who’s making a choice, and you’re the one who has to live with the consequences.

[Asker]

Yes unfortunately because of my lie, I am really forced to change sex and become a transgender woman.

[SaoirseS]

No you aren’t forced to. You made a choice.

[Asker]

The government demands that I start my sex change, if I don't not only will I be obliged to do military service but I'll be sentenced for lying.

[SaoirseS]

You make the choices, you live with the consequences.

[Asker]

Yes, you're right. I hope that with time I'll get used to living with a woman's body. 😔

[SaoirseS]

Good luck

[Mikemyth561]

@SaoirseS He was a coward and now he wants us to feel sorry for him, he deserves what's coming to him.

[SaoirseS]

@Mikemyth561. I agree, that is if any of it is true, and I don’t believe it is.

[Mikemyth561]

@SaoirseS I think he's Turk because they're fighting the Kurds so it's quite possible. He crying his eyes out now and it's very funny.

[RoseySarah]

Love how people ask a question like am I the ass?
No da if you have to ask you are!
Such a coward go die like a proud country woman!
That is an insult to women 😞

[Asker]

@RoseySarah I don't even want to become a transgender woman, but now I have to. If I told the truth I'd have to do my military service and I'd also risk going to prison for lying.

[Asker]

@saoirses I got my doctor's certificate to start hormone treatment today.

[OlderAndWiser]

Can such behavior be characterized in any way other than cowardice?

[hammeronfire]

No. I’m in the US Army and I don’t think military service is for everyone. It should be a choice in my opinion.

[Asker]

When you live in a free country like the USA, you have this choice. Unfortunately for me in my country it does not exist.

[hammeronfire]

Is it possible for you to flee your country and move somewhere else

[Asker]

Not really, unfortunately. Well, today the doctor gave me the certificate to start hormone treatment. 😥

But know that I have a lot of respect for the soldiers who give their lives for their country.

[Anonymous]

Man weird world!

You know how hard I try to get into my country's military and how much I love to be a part of it

And here you have them coming to you

I know we both are different with different mindsets and I respect that

[robhazelnut]

I accept the ideas that courage and fearlessness can exist in a person, but not that of cowardice. It's like muscular strength- there's more or less, but not negative.

[robhazelnut]

Courage being the ability to take a single necessary step in the direction of what you want, no matter how much fear.

[monorprise]

Yes, its also absurd your odds of dying in the military even in Russia is inconsequential compared to what your about to do to yourself

[DextroShade]

It depends: if you are avoiding defending your own country then yes but if you are avoiding going to fight some dumb war in another country like Iraq or Vietnam then no.

[Asker]

Now I'm obliged to take the necessary steps to become a transgender woman. I have an appointment today with the doctor to start the hormones.

If I told the truth, I'd be sentenced to prison and I'd have to do my military service.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Forced military service is wrong, but the lie you told won't work. You should just leave the country and move to a better one.

[Asker]

You have to have money to leave. I find myself in a delicate situation

[disgustingweebtrash]

No. No one should serve in a military where the priority of the state is not the people.

[Asker]

Exactly, thank you very much. The problem now is that I'm obliged to start a sex change transition, because if I don't not only will I be obliged to do my military service but I risk going to prison.

[jjj101010]

Just do the service, join the military and there’s a very small chance u may get ur dick shot off. Go the other route and it’s getting chopped of and thown in a bin.

[Asker]

Now it's too late, I'm crying because I wanted to remain a man, but I'm obliged to take the necessary steps to become a transgender woman. I have an appointment today with the doctor to start the hormones.

If I told the truth, I'd be sentenced to prison and I'd have to do my military service.

[jjj101010]

Yep but u will still have ur dick, small price to pay

[Matthias345]

He was a coward and now he wants us to feel sorry for him, he deserves what's coming to him.

[KostasKouvalis]

I mean, if your values don't align with those of your government, why serve them?

[Asker]

You have to have money to leave. I find myself in a delicate situation

[Asker]

I'm obliged to start a sex change transition, because if I don't not only will I be obliged to do my military service but I risk going to prison

[KostasKouvalis]

That's a pretty extreme thing to do simply to dodge the draft

[RedInnocent68]

Kind of. Is your country at war? Because that would be totally legit.

[QuietRunner]

isn't most compulsory military service only 2 years. With the initial training figured in, it is half over at your first post

[On_cloud_wine]

This is too funny..

[Asker]

There's nothing funny about my situation. I swear I cried, I didn't want to become a woman. But I have an appointment today with the doctor so I can start the hormone treatment.

[On_cloud_wine]

I agree with booop bop. Come clean or be a woman

[On_cloud_wine]

What country would you be fighting for?

[Asker]

If I told the truth, I'd be sentenced to prison and I'd have to do my military service.

I didn't want to be a woman, but now because of my lie I'm forced 😥

[Asker]

Turkey

[Julie4]

@On_cloud_wine He will have to get used to being called miss 🤣

[Asker]

@on_cloud_wine I've had the appointment with the doctor and he's going to give me the certificate so that I can start the hormone treatment.

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 I just hope he (SHE) puts in the effort to not look like a man in a dress.

[Julie4]

@KatherineJ I love your comment. And I love the answers you gave him. Yes you're right , he's going to have to learn to wear makeup , heels and dresses like a real woman from now on. And as you said she'll probably end up in the arms of a guy in the end 😅

Oh God bless your Husband. ❤️

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 Thank you. I’m pretty blunt. I mean she said she wanted to be a girl, so she is just getting what she told her country that she wanted. With that comes the reality of actually having to live like we do. I think it’s poetic. 🤣

[Julie4]

@KatherineJ Oh my god you are extraordinary in your answers. And you're 100% right, she's going to become what she told her country. I'd like to see her reaction when she gets hit on by men, she's going to have to get used to that. Oh yes, I love this karma ❤️

But she should have a pink account now

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 thank you so much! And you are absolutely right! Hey @asker, since you are going to join us girls, you might as well change your gender on here to girl. You’ll need to get used to a lot of new things, so you should start now! I am sure a lot of us are willing to help you get used to your new life on this side of the gender fence.
I am willing to offer suggestions on any of the following topics:
1) Fashion (hair, makeup, clothes/shoes, accessories)

2) Managing a home.

3) How to take care of a family

4) How to handle men

I am sure a lot of us will help you adjust to your new life. 😁

[Julie4]

@KatherineJ Yes, exactly, all he has to do is write to gag and they'll put his account in Rose.

You've made some excellent suggestions, we're going to help her be a pretty woman who appeals to men 😊.

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 well, at least one who can actually function in our gender role. I mean I am open minded, but there are things that we usually have to do that men don’t. I also don’t want her to frighten the other ladies the first time she has to go to a public washroom. 🤣

[Asker]

@KatherineJ I know you're going to make fun of me, but the truth is that when it comes to make-up, clothes etc., I don't know how to choose them, I can't do my make-up properly and spending time on it just annoys me. For example, to go to my doctor's appointment today I had to be as feminine as possible, and I hurt my ankle walking in low heels. It looks a bit like hell.

[Julie4]

@KatherineJ I don't know think @KatherineJ , but I think we can help you with that. Don't worry, honey, in time you'll act like a real woman.

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 and @asker every girl has to start somewhere! Learning to wear heels is an art form! You’ll get used to them. But just think of all the possibilities that you can choose from now! Pumps, stilettos, peep toes, platforms, wedges. Such an exciting time! And no, I’m not making fun of you, girl! But go into your profile and change your gender. Welcome to team PINK!

[KatherineJ]

@Julie4 she definitely will! I mean once the hormones kick in. 😁

[Asker]

@on_cloud_wine I got my doctor's certificate to start hormone treatment today.

[On_cloud_wine]

Good deal, miss. 👍

[Asker]

@on_cloud_wine To be honest I'm sorry I said that stupid lie

[Matthias345]

@On_cloud_wine What I don't understand is that he wants us to feel sorry for him. He made this decision, let him accept the consequences lol

[On_cloud_wine]

@Matthias345 I can’t feel sorry for someone who won’t help himself

[On_cloud_wine]

Not help someone who refuses to take thy advice

[On_cloud_wine]

Nor help*

[Asker]

@on_cloud_wine This is to keep you informed, the doctors have scheduled my operation (to have a female sex) in 5 months, I've already been on hormonal treatment for 2 months.

[Anonymous]

Neah it makes you a smart person, violence is for idiots

[Asker]

Thanks You. Now I'm obliged to take the necessary steps to become a transgender woman. I have an appointment today with the doctor to start the hormones.

If I told the truth, I'd be sentenced to prison and I'd have to do my military service.

[AngryCarl2]

Cut your dick off, problem solved.

[AngryCarl2]

Disclaimer: Answer is for entertainment purposes only. Do not attempt to remove body parts without the help of a trained professional.

[Asker]

I don't want to become a transgender woman, but I didn't know they were going to require me to start the steps to begin my sex change. So now I have to do it

[AngryCarl2]

I'm sure it will be worth it to avoid a few months in the military.

[Fuentes]

I live in Singapore or something? Lol

[MaxUsefull]

Yes, you are a coward

[Asker]

To be honest I got myself in trouble, because of my lie, I'm really going to have to become a transgender woman.

[MaxUsefull]

That’s the price of the lie

[Asker]

Yeah 😔

[boggboss]

Pretty much yeah

[Mettbltt]

yes you are

[Asker]

To be honest I got myself in trouble, because of my lie, I'm really going to have to become a transgender woman.

[Mettbltt]

what the fuck are you serious

[Mettbltt]

you should go to the military

[Asker]

Unfortunately, yes

[Mettbltt]

go to the military bro or your life will be ruined.

[Asker]

Bro I can die because it's possible that after my military service I'll be sent to the front.

[Mettbltt]

How many months do you have to stay in the military?

[Mettbltt]

recruits do not immediately go to the front

[Asker]

6 months

[Mettbltt]

Every man goes to military service, you won't die, don't worry

[gorydetails]

No you didn’t.