Does everyone think criticizing Israel mean antisemitic?

[OddBeMe]

This seems so crazy to me. I did see they killed the Hamas prick who defiled the body of an Israeli kid who was murdered.

Too bad Israel didn’t rescue her before she was killed. Now Israel is more galvanized and will bomb more, and more Palestinians will die creating more Hamas pricks.

Yes that’s a rule

No that’s insane

[Drewtate]

Let me get this straight. Its israel's fault the Palestinians killed this woman just because Israel was unable to rescue the hostages without massive casualties. You realise when Israel tries to rescue the hostages that all the Palestinians have to do is turn their RPD machine guns on the hostages and kill them all. We all seen how the Palestinians paraded this woman's naked body through the streets spitting on her. This is what you are supporting. She was probably raped before she died.

[OddBeMe]

Wait let me get this straight…you’re a Hostage Rescue Expert AND know Hamas’ plans?

Funny how actual HRT teams seem to rescue most hostages nearly immediately.

[Drewtate]

Operation Eagle claw.
This isn't taking hostages from a building in the US, its taking hostages from entrenched radical terrorists complete with tunnels and murder holes with tens of thousands of Palestinian terrorists armed to the teeth. To even attempt it requires an invasion, Israel might lose more than the 400 soldiers its lost already trying to rescue 240 hostages.

[Juxtapose]

^^ exactly, @OddBeMe it doesn't make sense to lose more soldiers than the hostages you would rescue.

[Drewtate]

@Juxtapose Israeli soldiers are mostly citizen soldiers.

[syncheart]

As a Christian who believes the Bible, I am pro Israel. However even in the Bible... It is written that Israel did not do everything right and God judged them for it. Even now Israel does not do everything right. But God still cares about them, and protects them. He also blesses those that bless Israel.

[OddBeMe]

You are the reason Israel thinks it can do whatever it wants,

[syncheart]

Yeah, little oh me, who works by himself cleaning toilets at night LOL!

[OddBeMe]

Damn your hide!

[whirled_up_girl]

I think we should be able to criticize leaders and governments without being against the people under their rule. That's a different thing than harassing people, or making threats specifically based on, race, ethnicity, religion, nationality etc.

[Anonymous]

The left used to think it is.

Now that Israel and Palestine are all over the news right now and many younger left wingers have decided to side with Palestine, they are getting their asses bit by their very own "consequense culture."

I am over here with my popcorn watching them get fucked in the bed they made.

[KrakenAttackin]

Anon... agreed.

[shortster]

Criticism isn't in of it self antisemitic. However, if you're chanting "From the River to the Sea" or calling for a ceasefire after Hamas senselessly targeted and murder thousands of civilians. That would be antisemitic.

[OddBeMe]

I’d agree, unless it’s a ceasefire to help refugees. Besides Israel raided a hospital and got tons of great evidence. Better than bombing it.

[shortster]

The hospital turned out to be a Hamas misfired missile that hit the parking lot.

[shortster]

I think that they are currently doing a 4 hour ceasefire daily for refugees to evacuate.

[OddBeMe]

Sure that appears to be the issue with that last hospital bombing, but I’m talking about the other hundreds of bombs dropped.

[shortster]

Well if Hamas wouldn't station troops in hospitals and fire rockets from them.

[OddBeMe]

Sigh.. then you and Israel are too stupid to fight terrorists. Hamas wants to be bombed and for Israel to kill innocent Arabs, dummy.

[shortster]

You are aware that it is a war crime to station troops in a hospital or to fire out of one?

[Juxtapose]

That's not how the USA fought in world war II during 1945. Rather than go room to room they would flatten the building that the shot came from and that would save more soldier's lives.

And yeah it's a war crime to station troops in a hospital or fire out of one. But here you are, blaming Israel for the actions of terrorists and the difficult choices the Israeli military has to make.

[OddBeMe]

@shortster Yeah that’s makes them terrorist. Israel bombs them is also a war crime.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose debatable. Japan had been carpet bombed for years and you think one nuke would make them surrender? It was Russia invading Manchuria. Emperor knew it was done by then.

[Juxtapose]

You take two nukes in a small country and then face the prospect of more and see if you don't want to surrender. The land that was nuked is still affected to this very day. Try getting most of your country covered in nuclear hellfire. 10 bombs, 20 bombs, 200 bombs. We had plenty more.

[Juxtapose]

But yeah Israel is doing the right thing and they have military experts advising them on this that no far more about military tactics than you or I. You like to defer to experts so much, right?

[Juxtapose]

*know far

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose (shrugs)…actual war experts told bush to stay out of Iraq. Not sure who’s running this shit. Netanyahu def isn’t expert.

[Juxtapose]

It's blatantly obvious that Bush went to Iraq to finish what his daddy couldn't finish and also make a whole bunch of money for his real boss, Dick Cheney.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose and experts told him not to. Netanyahu, I’m guessing, is feeling the same as Bush.

[Juxtapose]

Literally all Israel has to do is completely exterminate the Gaza Strip. Wipe Hamas off of the face of the map and make an example out of them.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose how much of Gazans are children?

[Juxtapose]

Not my problem. Terrorists hide behind hostages and hostage situations only get more prevalent if you indulge hostage takers.

[Juxtapose]

People will literally stop taking hostages if they see it does nothing but slow themselves down.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose funny how no terrorist group ever stops terrorizing…we’ve been dealing with hostage taking for decades by the Palestinians and constantly react by bombing their people.

[Juxtapose]

It only gets worse if you indulge it.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose if also gets worse by violence. Funny huh?

[Juxtapose]

No, once they're all dead it's done. Eliminate the enemy.

Being a pacifist will only lead to you being a slave to Sharia law.

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose just to connect all our debates: You sound like Hitler.

[Juxtapose]

@KrakenAttackin @Exterminatore @gorydetails gee guys, I guess because I want to get terrorists that use hospitals as shields into the grave means I'm like Hitler! 😂🤣☠️

[KrakenAttackin]

@Juxtapose I have to say I don't know what the answer is. Hamas received a shit ton of cash from Iran and American weapons "abandoned" in Afghanistan. If there is real blame here it lays at the feet of Joe Biden.

[Juxtapose]

@KrakenAttackin definitely.

I just wanted people to see me get called Hitler.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Juxtapose Ha!

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose if you don’t care about civilian (kids) deaths than yes, you’re more like Hitler than you think.

[shortster]

Why are you guys still arguing on my comment? Juxtapose has one the two of you can keep arguing about it on.

[OddBeMe]

Stfu and don’t answer my Qs if you disagree on child murder.

[shortster]

Why would you assume that I am in favor of child murder? I broke up with my last girlfriend because she wanted me to help her sister get Plan B. I think that I am as far away from supporting child murder as you can get.

[OddBeMe]

Well it’s ad absurdum…but I can’t believe everyone prioritizing Israel’s right to fire missiles than the children that they kill.

[Juxtapose]

LOL you say that while Hamas hides behind civilian shields, hides in hospitals while they fire rockets and they go to cribs and slit the throats of babies.

Anyone who supports Hamas is supporting baby killers.

[Juxtapose]

Hamas also uses rape as a weapon of war. Stop supporting terrorists and falling for anti-semitic propaganda.

[Exterminatore]

@Juxtapose

I want the same. Hamas, Hezbollah and all organizations like them are barbaric murders. There is only one fitting way to deal with them and that is to kill them all because they will never stop.

[OddBeMe]

@Exterminatore and how many Gazans are actually Hamas?

[Exterminatore]

@odd

At least 44% of them voted for them. That indicates they at least ideologically support them.

[OddBeMe]

@Exterminatore that indicates nothing. 50% of Gazans are also children. That means every bomb dropped kills several children.

[Exterminatore]

@odd

I’m sorry. Those who support an ideology are as guilty as those who carry it out.

I’m tired of hearing about the poor Palestinian children and ignoring the poor Israeli children who were gunned down when this latest war started. No dead Israeli children = no dead Palestinian children.

Palestinians were given notice to leave areas that were going to be bombed. If they did not their blood is on their own heads.

Also read up about how the pictures of dead babies have been being photoshopped.

[OddBeMe]

@Exterminatore we can have disgust for all children being killed dude….

And children don’t pick who’s in power of their country or territory…or whatever. You’d seriously execute a child in the name of this war?

[Exterminatore]

@odd

I would not execute a child for any reason.

The bottom line is they were told to leave, that the area would be bombed. If they said their blood and their children’s blood is on their heads. No one else’s.

Israel is not the bad guy here.

[Exterminatore]

*stayed

[OddBeMe]

@Exterminatore Bottom line dipshit, there was no leaving. Overlooking IDF blockades, how does half a million kids move out of the line of fire from Israeli rockets?

And by tacitly agreeing with Israel’s dipshit govt is in fact executing a child.

[Exterminatore]

@odd

Bottom line is this keeps happening every few years. Enough is enough.

There would be no war if it were not started by Hamas. Israel has a right to respond with force. It’s unfortunate that innocent people may be killed. There is no other solution.

Every single time this happens Israel is blamed. Tell me, if people gunned down children and innocent people attending a concert in your neighborhood and shot missiles into houses in your neighborhood and went door to door killing people in your neighborhood, how much restraint would you be calling for?

Maybe the Palestinians should help Israel eradicate the problem. We know that won’t happen because most of them support Hamas. Very well, they can suffer the consequences for doing so. They’re not so innocent in all this and if they put their children’s safety at risk by supporting Hamas then their blood and children’s blood is on their own heads.

[OddBeMe]

@Exterminatore oh of course.

Nuremberg Trial Transcripts:
Prosector: You were the general in charge of exterminating the Jews?
Ollendorf: Yes. Nearly 1.5 million.
Prosecutor: Why was this necessary?
Ollendort: They were the enemy of Germany. Everyone knows this!
Prosecutor: But why the children? Why kill babies who have nothing to do with it?
Ollemdorf: They will grow up to be enemies of the Reich. We were fighting for the future as well!

[OddBeMe]

Actually spelled Ohlendorf, sorry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Ohlendorf

[Exterminatore]

@odd

What point are you trying to make. There is a huge difference between systematically eliminating the Jews and responding to an unprovoked attack on innocent and unarmed people.

What is Israel supposed to do? They gave the warning they would be bombing and to flee. That is completely different from loading people on cattle cars and shipping them to concentration camps.

I get it. I don’t want to see innocent blood shed any more than than you do. War is unpleasant. Sometimes the innocent are killed unintentionally.

We did the exact same thing in Iraq. We sectioned off map grids and told everyone there the next day anyone who remained would be considered an enemy and killed.

What is Israel supposed to do? If they send in ground troops Hamas will just use them as human shields and make a production out of it and blame Israel. If Israel bombs, then they’re still the bad guys. Israel can do no right. They need to put an end to these occurrences.

[OddBeMe]

@Exterminatore MY POINT: killing children is the same no matter what.

Not surprised I have to lay it out like a 3rd grade teacher.

[Sasahara]

If you have to ask, then clearly you think so, otherwise you would already know the answer is a no you would not need to ask.

[OddBeMe]

No I think it doesn’t. And this is rhetorical to get conversation about it. Caught up?

[Juxtapose]

Generally yeah, I see a lot of Holocaust deniers and terrorist sympathizers on the Palestinian side.

[Kingofkings1992]

Did you have a question, or just seeking validation?

[OddBeMe]

Validation in…. what? I’m not anti Israel nor antisemitic. Nor am I Jewish.