
Would you move to Canada if Trump is re-elected?


It’s hilarious that you socialists see words like “deconstruct the administrative state” which points to devolution and see that as a restructuring of the administrative state into a fascist theocracy. It’s like you guys are completely illiterate. Devolution is the statutory delegation of powers from the central government of a sovereign state to govern at a subnational level. Being that the United States of America is a constitutional federal republic, what this means is that Trump would strip powers from federal agencies under the executive branch and return those powers to the states. This would mean the President (i. e. Trump) would become mush less powerful and that the people of the United States of America within their own states would become much more powerful. This is occurring because those federal agencies under the executive branch are mandating agency policies that impact citizen’s lives without said mandates passing legislative processes in congress. That is to say, the federal agencies current dictate law without it ever being voted on by elected representatives of the people. That power would be striped from those agencies and be given back to the people. All powers granted to future federal agencies would require a vote by congress to by elected representatives sent from the states to the federal government. That is how the country is suppose to work under the constitution, but the deep state has corrupted our country and has formed an oligarchy that only serves a small portion of the population. Trump wants to free you dumb slaves, and you see that as a threat. It’s mind boggling. You socialist slaves really cling to the plantation.
First I’m not a socialist
Second that not the question I asked
Third if you want to do ad hominem attacks I won’t engage with you further
Go fuck yourself
Oh anti LGBTQ+ hate, why am I not surprised
Oh okay, you seem to know a lot about glory holes, do you frequent bath houses?
The difference is I couldn’t care less about how others have sex. You are obsessed with the notion of gay sex. I think you might need to come out of the closet. Hating gay people living as gay people won’t make you un-gay.
Try swapping it with something else retardo... Me: I don't eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. You: OMG I'm not surprised we have a person that hates and oppresses people that eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. You know you really like eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, why don't yo come out of the refrigerator.
I respect gay Americans, but I’m firmly in the heterosexual camp. I’m sorry to disappoint you Rig.
Rig your are an angry homophonic moron, I’m not interested in convincing you of anything.
You know what's funny? You accused Donald Trump of trying to create a theocracy as an expansion of the administrative state when he openly state's he is working to deconstruct the administrative state to strip central power and return it to the people so that they are more free. When I explained that simple fact to you, you got angry because you could not handle different opinions than your own. Here's a definition for you:
Bigot: A person who is intolerant of people with different opinions.
After I pointed that out to you, you then began to proselytize your homosexual religion to me talking about fucking various pronouns. I told you that I wasn't interested in your religion, but you felt a need to continue to try to force your beliefs on me. It's pretty clear, that you are the one that wants to institute a theocracy in the United States of America and that you are absolutely opposed to differing opinions.
Oh now you want to convince me your a good guy, too late your a homophobic bigot, Donald Trump is a Rapist, insurrectionist, fraud, huckster. Among other things, he’s a racist that likes to quote Hitler, you are too stupid to look at facts and come to sound logical conclusions. You and people like you would follow Trump no matter what he says or what he does.
Your the Sheep 🐑
You're the very definition of a religious zealot. You proselytize your gay religion, you're intolerant of other's beliefs, you promote your satanic bathhouse temples or sodomy, and you label everyone a heretic that doesn't instantly submit to your teachings. Your projection is rather hilarious.
no, but I will be monitoring my local area for new levels of craziness.
A lot of stress isn't just reality but what people make up in their minds. Hold that thought...
Republicans generally behave and go back to work after political contests. They talk and gripe, but I've not seen any take physical acts against others. They complain and voice opinions... but are working. They aren't rioting, burning and looting... generally. Jan 6, ok... that went too far, small group I don't know a single one of, and shows the intensity of the situation.
So now imagine Trump goes in, releases Jan 6 jailed people, upends the left government... possibly going after them, and starts dismantling everything... including the climate agenda which is a huge emotional trigger, rightly or wrongly, of the left. Starts talking pumping oil opening up the lines again. Trump starts up the "evict illegals" movement... that will trigger the ANTIFA at minimum.. becase it shows what a fascist he is. We know what it takes to set off BLM riots again... just put out the videos of any of the several hundred black people killed this year or next. Think of the other issues and how the media will respond to trump 2.0 stoking the fires of the left minds.
There is a huge risk of social unrest, civil chaos at a new level.
That is why I DO NOT FAVOR trump, but someone with similar policies. Trump will trigger the left and it may be bad for innocent people. In other words, innocent people get hurt or killed. see 'protests' by BLM, antifa, climate protesters and others where people are killed and maimed.
I not only suspect, but 90% confident there will be 'excess pain and suffering' if he is elected. It's a bad plan... republicans should re-think it immediately.
Yes, conservatives are too busy working to support their families and pay their taxes to start riots and burn cities to the ground. The BLM and Antifa crowd has been working the welfare scam for years and they have the whole day free to loot liquor stores, burn police cars and assault law abiding citizens.
President Trump has already expressed his agenda. Drill for oil, close the border, deport illegal aliens, get us out of Ukraine and disband Jonn Kerry's multi million dollar climate scam. Last night he also said he would give immunity to first responders. The crowd enthusiastically cheered.
This is what the public wants. The silent majority will take back America and fringe groups on the left will have to gobout and find jobs like the rest of us.
I am sure there will be plenty of riotsxafter the election but that is what the National Guard is for
@exitseven all that is an improvement over what we have. there's good with bad.
can't manage crazy.
If i move there, its for the sake of my dude’s job. Otherwise, i prefer to live in the USA no matter what shitty democrat/republican takes leadership
I'm already basically in Canada so not like it matters but I wouldn't move there just cuz of the president
I’m in North Dakota, so yeah I hear ya
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Realistically not, or not for those reasons. But I am becoming more and more hopeless and defeated about who so many of our citizens just ARE. The politicians and the stances they’re taking in recent years is just a response to appease that faction. Donald Trump probably isn’t alive in 20 years, but I probably will be, and so will a lot of people who I’m disappointed in today and I’m not counting on to ever grow. It’s more about how out of control do those people become, or the most boisterous of them, anyway. I don’t know how you combat people who are intensely proud of precisely what they should be ashamed of.
@WhiteSteve So I should be ashamed of loving my way of life? I should want to be embarrassed about wanting a good education and opportunities for my kids?
Last summer I was driving past the local little league field and saw it packed with parents sitting in lawn chairs watching their kids engage in America's Pastime.
The parking lot was filled with SUVs and minivans. The parents were all cheering for their kids on this warm summer afternoon.
I could not help but think that this might be the last generation to enjoy activities like this. I want Biden and the democrats out to preserve the American way of life.
How will you react when hockey is outlawed because not enough "people of color" participate in it and there fore it is racist?
need clarity about what others are doign that is causing you to not live your life. sounds defeatist...
@lightbulb27 for one thing I am being taxed to death. Another is that crime has invaded my neighborhood. Another is that the public schools no longer give an adequate education. Also the quality of Healthcare has taken a nosedive. And now I am going to be told that I will not be allowed to vote for who I wa t to vote for
@exitseven I meant that to whitesteve.
I think there would be some consternation in our house if he gets selected, and there would be consternation in our house if Biden gets elected. Neither of us are fans of either candidates policies. Regardless of what comes out of their mouth, I do believe they both I've done an excellent job of dividing the country either through their policies or what they have said or insinuated.
they do believe by partisan ship has been lost. I wonder what voting would look like if political parties were eliminated, and you simply voted for the candidate versus the party.
I now will await the chiding
To answer your original question, we wouldn't move. I stand with several of our neighbors, who note they make money, regardless of who is in power at this point.
* I do believe bipartisanship has been lost
Few people follow up on such threats.
I understand that lots of people don't like Trump, but I can't take anyone seriously that thinks his second term would be a "theocracy". If you want an example of what a theocracy actually is, Iran is one.
I think it doesn't matter. If Trump wins that is the end of democracy worldwide, not just here. Canada might get a delay on its fall but not much of one.
No of course not. I would prefer Trump to be president. As a matter of fact I’m still waiting for everyone that said they’d move to another country if he won to leave. Especially all these famous people. I’ve been to a lot of countries, especially in the military. As much as people may seem to think the US is the wort place to live, it really isn’t. A lot of people who think that have never been anywhere. Ask Britney Griner or a number of people who were locked up overseas.
Why bother staying in the US? Canada has everything the liberals want. "Free" healthcare, gun bans, corrupt city cops, constitutional rights only applying to minorities and whites who lick the boot.
It's got the complete package so why bother hoping that America will conform to you while you can flee to a place that already conforms?
What Canadian city has crooked cops?
They froze go fund me account used to collect foreign money, the truckers “freedom convoy” was a misguided attempt to reverse Covid travel restrictions. Our government imposed the restrictions on unvaccinated truckers, yet they were all holding up signs saying “fuck Trudeau” that is the PM of Canada. It seems like those fools didn’t know who to be mad at. Did you think a bunch of unvaccinated truckers should have been able to spread Covid far and wide?
Just asking
Yes the US and Canada did this and imposed covid restrictions in general on top of it just like we did.
>Did you think a bunch of unvaccinated truckers should have been able to spread Covid far and wide?
I think it is insane to think that everyone is carrying it at anytime unless proven otherwise. It is like catching it might as well be a crime.
It is no way to live, we never lived this way before with the Spanish or swine flu. It is pure government overreach. No where in our laws does it say that our human rights, including HIPAA which exists to prevent this sort of thing, is null and void if there is a disease going around. If they can do that then they can make up anything to continue the abuse of their own citizens (like many people are saying about climate change right now).
He already ran the country and did a better job than anyone had in 40 years, and he got more accomplished in 4 years than any other president, so there's no reason to move out of the country. He says who he is and he fulfills his promises, and I can't think of any other politician who does that.
He didn’t accomplish anything of value except divide and start an insurrection.
some famous people said that lie, in 2016, to make sensation. they stayed and are liars, who people usually despise but not if the liar hates trump.
Think I'll stick to England out of the 3.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/UnUfUoFODRgWhat the fuck for? I can't WAIT for him to take over and get the adults back in charge of the country!!
22 year old me: IF TRUMP GETS ELECTED, I'M MOVING
Reality: (didn't go anywhere, still alive)
Sooo... obvious answer.
Regardless of who my country's President is, I will never move to Canada.
Love America too much?
<3 Just the UNITED STATES (of [North] America).
I hope all the liberals do leave the counrty but they will welch on the deal, just like the last time. They are all still here.
I do find that kind of strange from right wing folk, that is “all liberals should disappear” it makes me think conservatives have wet dreams about forcibly erasing people they don’t agree with
Is that the American you want?
Living in a sound chamber where there is only one set of ideas broadcast on a load speaker?
So it’s “love it or leave it”
There’s no room for discussion or debate on how to improve anything?
Why bother improving a place if you can move to another that has your values down pat, especially if you think you are on the losing side?
If you think that the opposing ideology will make the country you are in collapse then wouldn't it make sense to leave so that you won't be caught in the middle of it?
I find that statement hilarious, the Republican party is actively working against the interests of American people yet ordinary Americans love them for it.
They will not agree on a solution to the border until after the next election cycle, they admitted as much
I don’t understand the Theocracy link. Are you asking if we would flee to get away from Trump or to get away from a system of Theocracy?
Why would I do that right before Trump jump starts the economy…. Let the good times role.
What if all he does is take revenge and accomplish nothing like last time
Are you implying I’m unemployed?
Americans and the economy are doing better now than in the Trump era, the economic numbers prove that
Yes, yes… the “numbers” prove that. Then what are all the pitiful people whining about? They complain about the cost of everything… food, gasoline, utilities, housing… its goes in and on. I am sure if you explained it to them they would reflect in that and be happy again.
I remember guys like you telling us inflation is transitory, inflation is caused by greed, trillions in spend by the government would counter inflation not increase it, Covid was not lab created, students are learning what they need to learn at home with zoom meetings/classrooms…. Dipsh! t
Most countries in the developed world are experiencing inflation. It’s just the reality of life unfortunately.
I’m very happy for you.
Are you saying my statement about inflation is incorrect?
Yes, totally. The US spent trillions and added 40% more digital currency in dollars out there. We must inflate by 40% for things. They world will need to inflate as well. The world is dependent in US dollars for trade including oil. China warned us not to do it years ago as they have a lot of our debt and we just decreased the value of their assets (our debt). That is one key reason for BRICs currency that is coming. Its also the reason that fueled cryptocurrencies. The US government has seen the dollar as endlessly inflatable which a FIAT currency is of course until others stop accepting it. Biden has put us in a spot that no matter what we do now the chance of catastrophe is high… and you don’t even understand that but will vote blue because you think that is good for you when its actually not. I need to go, see ya.
You are inflating the importance of the US dollar, the EU and other Countries futures are not directly dependent on the USA. Canada for example is an energy powerhouse in the world. They have their own energy, mineral and manufacturing industries.
We are 25% of the world economy, the biggest. We are also only about 4% of the world population. We are the biggest market. The US dollar is used in trade throughout the world. Other countries have adopted the US dollar as their currency, Argentina just did this very recently.
Canada has hydropower but there are only 39 million people in Canada. Canada uses the US for protection and spends very little on defense and Nato. They could not defend their own country.
Let’s end this conversation.
Yeah, he says he is going to be a day one dictator, so I'll have to get out of America at some point.
Whatever the hell a one day dictator means
That usually means he is a dictator for life. He says he'll be a dictator only for one day to remove all the bureaucrats and replace them with those who agree with everything he says. And he will have the ability to fire whoever he wants or people who disagree with him. There is also his project 2025 which he will send people to jail for watching vanilla porn. He is going to take the kids away from single mothers because they believe that a child needs a biological father figure in their life. Even if the dad was an abuser, they are going to make the mother go back to the father. And he has many other crazy laws; Project 2025 is 900 pages, so I can't cover everything he plans to do in one comment.
Exactly, I don’t know what that would mean in principle but either way I don’t vote for: rapist, insurrectionists,
Or anything else her accused/found guilty of
I would move to Texas or Florida. I might anyway.
Canada is much too close to the U. S. - I'd better stay where I am :)
Good riddance to anybody who wants to have shit birds like Trudeau telling them what's good for them.
we keep waiting for you shitlibs to make good on your threat.
Is this not a good post?
What should we shitty liberals post?
Reading is fundamental.
Here’s a thought. What makes you think Canadians want or would have Americans? 🤔
You think Trump would institute a theocracy? And how would that work exactly?
He would use his majority base ie evangelicals to influence all aspects of American life. Mandatory bible reading, religious instruction in school, ban other faith groups and start using the Old Testament as a basis for new laws
No but I would hope Republicans would finally stop their endless complaining and just leave me alone and stop the politics
Knowing what I know about Project 2025, there's a strong possibility of it
If Trump gets in then I'm moving to the US
No. Too many Canadians.
That said, I am leaving the country because the economic opportunities/working conditions are shit, and it’s hilariously corrupt.
What’s wrong with Canadian people?
Nothing. I’m just fucking with you. But it’s too cold, and their government itself seems pretty authoritarian.
Interesting,
How so?
Their covid measures seem very heavy handed, and they froze the bank accounts of people who protested that. It sounds like their speech laws criminalize offensive and distasteful speech. I’m not sure what their gun laws are like. Granted, where I’m going the gun laws are terrible.
I admit I had to google that
It appears Canada has limits on free speech, you can’t promote:
Violence against an identifiable group
Genocide
Civil defamation
And other provisions against hate and violence
What are the other provisions against hate and violence? What do they consider promoting violence/genocide/civil defamation? Why do they use the word, “promote” instead of, “incite”?
Well basically you can’t share ideology that promotes hate and genocide. They seem to use promote throughout the legal language.
Justice. gc. ca is where you can read it.
Yeah, that sounds a little too subject to abuse for my liking. Incite vs. promote is a big deal because incitement is literally something that presents an imminent risk of causing something to happen. Promotion can just mean expressing a mean opinion. Furthermore, the term hate in this day and age is used so loosely.
Well I’m not an expert on Canadian law but it appears saying ie promoting or inciting; hate, violence and genocide could get you arrested and or fined.
Yeah, well, that sounds like it could be abused easily. Hell, my quip about Canadians could be considered promoting hate. And if the government didn’t like me, they could just arrest and fine me for that.
Fuck no. I’m voting for him
I love Canada more so yes
No, what for?
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