
Is it a good thing when tech kills jobs?


Not at all. There's one thing with automation like machinery - printing presses, grain harvesters, injection molders, etc that make things easier for people but still required people. Sure, they did replace some people's work, but after a while, the demand for new jobs took the place of those - programmers, quality control, etc.
AI is much more advanced. It is growing exponentially, in terms of what industries it can be used in, how much people it could replace, and in overall capability.
Imagine, it's at first able to create car parts, then its able to create and assemble them, then it's ultimately able to replace the entire assembly line from start to finish. A complete car created entirely by an AI.
Advanced AI can now address increasingly complex tasks including medical diagnosis, stock market trading, and weather prediction. Very soon, it will replace the roles of certain teachers. It can already deal with complex systems in software and mathematics. It's limitations such as sensors and the physical element (dealing with people) will be overcome with time.
Generative AI right now trawls the internet and steals from copyrighted images, songs, people's voices, likeness, writing, etc to generate things. People that use them have the nerve to state that they "drew" or "wrote" whatever the program generated. That's not how it works. You can't simply use a calculator, not know the formulas, and call yourself a mathematician.
You type in a few keywords like, Wednesday from Addams family fighting Skeletor from He Man and the Masters of the universe in Junji Ito style, and it will generate images based this and you can pick any number to use. Right now, they are riddled with mistakes, the most infamous of which is multiple hands or fingers being overly generated.
It's become so prevalent in it's usage in such a short time, that legitimate artists are being asked to provide their PSD or equivalent when they submit their completed work. AI advocates state that this particular thing helps disabled people "make art" and that is so far from the truth. Disabled people that have either no arms or can't use them have adapted to use either their mouth or their feet to make masterpieces. It's incredible in terms of what people can do.
Eventually, I can see generative AI becoming advanced enough to replace human creativity in terms of video games, movies, posters, digital artworks, etc, when at that point, it won't be art any more. It will lack that human element. I don't consider typing in certain words for a machine do something an art.
I don't consider myself a Luddite, but I think Generative AI needs to be criminalized in it's usage.
Hard to say. There's basically no job safe from AI & the next wave of automation. Funny thing is that even the fittest will be unemployed.
On the plus side there will be less illegals, China who's economy depends on cheap labor will take a hit. India will loss a lot of tech jobs
We will probably end up in a situation like the old roman empire where the oligarchs had taken all the land & other buisnesses in Italy over and brought in cheap labor to work them forcing Roman citizens into Rome & the other cities, of course with few opportunities to keep them passive the emperor gave them free doles of bread and wine and entertained them with chariot racing, gladiatorial games, Olympics, plays and Bath houses.




No it’s not. It’s removing people from the ancient thing known as the trade market. People can’t participate- they don’t make a living- they don’t live.
It definitely forces them to adapt, but….
just like the massive inflation and hardly any real increase in wages, which makes it hard for anyone to really buy their own decent home at a good ripe age, the force to improve is enough motive BUT the resources and availability to improve must follow accordingly/correspondingly.
let me tell you- it hasn’t.
Before ai ACTUALLY replaced jobs (didn’t think people would be so dumb to lay off people without proposing alternatives), I saw a way for everyone to benefit and live/thrive while ai became the new enslaved working class. Sadly when someone asked musk what he would tell his kids or what he thinks will happen with all of this, he said he honestly didn’t know and would tell his kids to still reach for the and try their best….
inspiring… very inspiring and reassuring. The man with the high networth and success, just as high and grandiose as his iq decided to invest in something he wasn’t sure would make a definitive way for his own legacy to live after him. Cruel and irresponsible move. He’s genius for sure. Leave it to him to get America near the top of the list in global trade and keeping the economy stable on a finger, but the dude didn’t think it through for the rest including his kids.
There’s always a way for everyone to benefit and just swatting people off of their jobs with no messages or advanced notices or chances to adapt or improve is really embarrassing, ridiculous, and inhumane.
It’s funny because you see the news reporters who think they are untouchable when they speak about celebrity deaths, interview politicians, discuss natural disaster, and warfare, and even the ai replacing chat jobs in customer service.
Little do they know their job of talking and delivering scripts can easily easily be replaced and if there’s no guidelines or limitations I don’t see what stops the people running and enforcing these things as well as endorsing them from limiting ai from taking all jobs there is.
Robots do delivery of food, factory bots process things, ai gives responses, ai art generates. In a tech society- giving it a “brain” and it already having the ability to “calculate” means every job in finance, labor, food, entertainment, marketing, art, and so forth can all be performed by ai. 🤷♀️ maybe even medical and safety. The only ones clearly safe are the ones in government- clearly and for some long time medical professionals. Safety professionals like firefighters and police who carry tons or use brute force as well as the military will keep their jobs. They may be gracious to the inventive intelligence of market workers and car developers like Tesla/musk/bezos/amazon.
Literally the whole society could suffer depending on who endorses and what’s the game plan. If the public doesn’t keep their voice and hands. Their inclusivity in their community. I don’t see what would stop a derailed train for our public. I speak in metaphor to not cause alarm or seem so “hysterical” or so.
I’m just saying without the guidelines and purpose/principles for this project. Many people will be pushed to the curb. It’s already happening if massive amounts lose their jobs due to some robot. That’s all that’s really happening here. Basic workers will lose their job to a robot. How does this benefit them and those dependent upon them.
Well said and thank you for seeing my point and respecting it but I have to mention this seems a lot different from using *tools* to make a job easier. It’s more like actually replacing the worker altogether. The tool does the job. The worker gets no credit and thus no compensation. The bot/tool gets maintained updated never given compensation and the human is left where in this equation? How do you expect or propose for them to survive? WILL these companies hire basic people to maintain these machines? Or will it be for those with years of schooling? If it’s the latter will the adults who have passed their school “era” be expected to return and acquire this information and skill to stay relevant? Will those with school debts being paid for and bills for finances cars or mortgages be expected to make an extra expense and return, dedicate extra time from their lives to learn these things? And will they be allowed some type of debt relief or educational assistance? For the extra instruction and training? I feel like there’s a lot of unknown variables and not enough planning and protocol/ procedure for the people in this community and public group of this country. Maybe I am being a bit dramatic but it comes from a place of concern for the welfare of the people.
No I’m talking about everything that was mentioned in my message. If I didn’t credit any thing, person, people, or movement then I’m not talking about that because I’m a direct person. If you want to explain why you think I was talking about that or what gave you that idea then you can but I clearly mentioned welfare of people.
You seem to be trying to actually put a merit on people by saying be more than basic and this is their job. I say to that: no their job is listed in their job requirements and it’s to help the company make a profit and respect their colleagues, partners, clientele, and overseers.
A person doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone, but complete a task, *contribute to their communities* in any way they can, by all means possible and/or necessary, and survive/ enjoy their lives pursuing hobbies and other interests: shared or solo.
Maybe you want Americans to be outdo other Americans or others and that comes from a way of thinking of superiority or anxiousness of being taken advantage of by some other demographic.
You don’t have to place such strain on a people because of any concern because that responsibility is upon congress and the military. Border control and national defenses. That’s between allies.
For the trade that’s upon intervenors and there’s no need to throw in new things into the trade market if one was self-sufficient.
If a country has a need they should address it the right way- not insult basic people and demand they become “better.”
All employers ask is that their employees do their best.
This ai. This tool. Will possibly be replacing workers and I wonder what you would say in your age and stage of living if it truly replaces your job?
What would be your response?
I’m just curious, but if it’s personal I understand. (If it’s personal… I understand).
It seems people have this tendency and will only consider things if something became personal, otherwise “every man for themselves.”
For the people, by the people.
Not for the exceptional people. Not for the people of generational wealth. Not the indifferent people. Not the people who avoid responsibility. Not the people who don’t consider others as their own people (family) or themselves. 🤷♀️
No you’re saying we should have guarantees for “basic workers” who will get passed over because of technology.
Just because you don’t say a “movement” doesn’t mean it’s not that.
And stone tablets worked just fine before “papyrus” came along. Now all the chiselers are out of a job! Should we stop the progression of technology to make sure chiselers don’t have to learn a new trade?
I think we should progress, but as of now, people depend on this to earn livings and what they earn should be enough to afford making that required change in career path. I’m glad we evolved, but you seem to show no appreciation, serious consideration, or respect for those who were out of a job because of a change, and those who dedicated time and effort to learn those trades.
It’s basic, yes.
But if it takes coordination, attention, observation, supervision, etc. etc., it’s a skill learned and if it takes a certain amount of precision it’s possible it took TIME to learn, maybe even payments to learn that and that shouldn’t be taken for granted, or just thrown about loosely.
Maybe you just wanted to see what you wanted, or you’re trying not to be “blinded,” (rightly so), and you’re for progression. 💪 I am too. Yet, you missed the part where I said musk and bezos *help us progress 🏆 , but they didn’t have any plan in place for the newer generations, including their children. He doesn’t even have a plan for those who are replaced.
I’m saying yes, let’s move forward, but make sure everyone benefits.
You think I “talk of movements,” and I tell you firmly, respectfully, and truthfully, I don’t.
I’m not affiliated with any parties; I’m not biased.
I say, *I saw a way for everyone to (logically and efficiently) benefit from this specific technology in question, and within mentions, and they’d *still be able to pursue hobbies and live in a thriving and well-sustained economy/ public society.
You can’t possibly assume you know all that I do envision or have beliefs in. If you wish to know, I’d do my best to share, while holding respect for certain things- I feel- that should be kept confidential.
You asked:
Is it good when tech kills jobs.
I say, no. I add, it’s bad when it harms the people who *relied on those jobs and those enforcing the new tech don’t suggest or recommend, or provide alternatives and means of assistance, or learning for those who need to switch and adapt, and those who will grow up and need to find a career, to participate in the society.
If you had asked: “is it good tech eliminates hard work that may be unnecessary and provides special efficiency, as well as offering more time to dedicate to more meaningful agendas,” I say yes, we’re very lucky to have such bright minds and such tools.
But this progression hasn’t had any regulations; any consequential adjustments or adherences within lines of work specifically for this particular phase of evolution, and this progression has also yet failed to mention any protocol, recommendation, or ‘considerable thought’ for those it will directly affect- at first account, in a negative way. And it would remain negative if those people are left clueless or struggling to make ends meet; etc. all people are a people of passion as well, so my personal apologies to those who may not be passionate about the new tech and would have to find something vaguely similar but considered more useful than their outdated job.
Apologies to the “stone chiselers” who actually enjoyed it. Apologies to the stone chiselers who dedicated years of life to learn that, even if they did or didn’t.
Thanks to the genius mind, no longer with us, (may he rest in peace) who thought of the origins of ai, and so forth, the team of minds who carried his work forward.
And lastly, condolences to those who are indifferent to the majority, their fellow citizens, and those who are oblivious to all the effects, good and/ or bad on those around them.
m.youtube.com/watch
If the main character hadn’t learned to adapt his life would not have become the lavished and thriving life it had become. Sure no one helped him. These were simpler times. Some not as ambitious, determined, witty, and lucky…
Luckily he was also able to adapt at a faster pace. Ai if it’s not employing those replaced to simply maintain or supervise it, will be a tool that replaces and leaves those replaced with no other options. No one knows the extent of the replacement either so it would be difficult for some to decide on a new career- if that one also will just end up void of availability, potential, and income.
I support innovators. I implore them. But decisions can just be made first without considering costs, weighing the numbers of the markets and economy and considering the people involved.
It’s a country not just a lab. It may be many things. Claims of land of free m. Home of brave. It may be opportunity. It may be stores labs courthouses, but it’s also a land that is home to many.
As Lincoln said. United we stand and divided we fall.
You want to progress but if only one person moves forward, it’s not progress, it’s just a person living their life different to others. If you want to truly progress a country it’s better to make it a group success.
That’s my personal conviction and belief on the entire matter. Sorry for the “blab.” If that’s how you saw it.
No worries!
I wasn’t, in any way offended, or angered. I suppose I was a bit nervous about your GaG influence, and this question potentially swaying people in a direction that may have been somewhat unapologetically judgmental, unaware to others being badly spoken about/ painted in a bad light/ criticized / maybe wrongfully accused/ and certainly at a disadvantage with the new “movement.”
Movement is good, but so is preparation, and so, to answer your question, I have to fall back on “balance.” I believe it’s an even divide. 50/50 of those who are willing to learn but have the wrong set up/ circumstances (that can be very disadvantageous), and then the other half of the spectrum being filled with those who- I don’t know- seem to just be “lazy,” and who knows, entitled or spoiled.
I haven’t seen anyone really spoiled who is poor. I’ve only seen the spoiled wealthy or established people. NOT ALL of course, as many worked hard to get their keep. Network / education/ etc.
But those who seem to “do nothing,” I feel, even without being in their shoes, have reasons.
I was always an advocate and believer for resolution, understanding, and progress. So I’m all in favor of the technology progression, but since I’m also all for the people, I’m against it just downright, replacing entire jobs. Not even just the average job. Replacing careers. Life spent and dedicated to years of any type of schooling and studying, within and throughout the schooling, to be exceptional candidates to be hired and then onward as contributing employees to their companies/firms.
“Why don’t the basic people learn?”
It’s not just basic people. As I said, there can be the wrong ‘set up,’ but really, in general, it will always have to do with *different circumstances./ variables.
I’m sure those who studied what you have or studied alongside of you- for a similar career- have all had their personal moments of (challenges), epiphanies, understandings, and conclusions at very different times, and there was a percentage that maybe didn’t make it, and for that small percentage in your learning bracket and for others throughout, it would always be due to various circumstances, and I say here, at this moment in the response, those different circumstances and how they affect (ed) those different individuals of similar and different demographics and/or stereotypes, should be respected and not disrespected. I think any certified therapist could agree and account for this. I’m not one myself, but I do try to merely understand others around me and the different challenges/ adversity they face, as well as the general situation of our public society, financially, and in its standing, globally.
Respected at the very least, if not understood or assisted by many around them.
time.com/6287012/why-finding-job-is-difficult/
This goes to show just how much difficulty and adversity people are facing with employment and replacement.
It’s not just ai replacing. It’s the economic system/ strain. Ghost jobs. Scams. Ai.
If you look at one crucial part of the data. You’ll see people who have dedicated life and time to bachelors degrees are getting laid off, scammed, and replaced by ai.
It spans to different races/ethnicities; different educational backgrounds; different career groups.
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It means more unemployed people. Which means a bigger labor pool, which means that laborers are less valuable, which in turn increases the likelihood that workers will be subject to further exploitation.
if a robot can do your job then you are non-essential in that job. i don't see anything wrong with that. there are other jobs out there that include interacting with actual people and not getting hurt by robots with no safety parameters.
Tech makes more jobs than it kills, you simpleton. The "problem" is that it creates those jobs in niche sectors.
Probably good for greater society. Not for anyone losing their job
No, but it feels like the time of "Skynet" is nye...
I lot 2 good jobs to robots
Only for the genocidal Democrats
Because ya boi Biden just hired a 50,000 man death squad
IRS agents with carbines, that's an asset confiscating death squad ala the Nazis if I ever saw one
People around out so it's a cover up like the the laptop, the cocaine and Epstein island, doesn't last forever but long enough cull the most problematic parts
Hunter but probably Biden and likely Trump as well to full clean the slate
None but he's in politics so just imports children and snuffs them out when he's finished with them
It's all in the Ukraine hence Biden getting involved in the war to bury the evidence
Ahh so you believe bullshit without evidence. Hey I heard of a great new cult- I mean religion you should try. Just click the link below and give over you bank account details.
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I don't go in for cults but comparing them to religion is very much something I advocate for, if all religion could be stamped out it would be a wonderful thing
And you believe the democrats, I have no time for Nazis and even less for those who hide their affiliation
I've seen the evidence the fentanyl dealing and the support for terrorists and advocating for killing Jews
Everyone with a brain knows it, the BCS is a trillion dollar industry
FAANG are all trillion dollar firms ditto Aramco, Blackrock and Vanguard, no profit huh just oldest tax avoidance scheme in the book in action
You should read more. And blackrock and vanguard are index funds genius.
www.bloomberg.com/.../saudi-aramco-s-2-trillion-valuation-is-an-illusion
Bloomberg is a known liberal shill who almost bankrupted himself to try controlling America
Index funds are still companies on the exchange they just like to hide from public valuations like a gator in the bayou
He ran as a dem if memory serves
From wiki. He also infamously cactuses with the Repubs in NY making Long Island more powerful. Not that I’m against winning strategies. But call a spade a spade.
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