Its interesting that when an injustice is pointed out that upsets the statuesque that there are so many people who then wonder why someone cates.
Not all red pill people are incells, misogynists, nor unreasonable. They jist are working towards equality, just like you.
There's a lot of wrong in this world and men also face discrimination and injust and unequal treatment. To point that out and work towards change isn't inherently wrong.
They are frustrated and they have way too much time on their hands partly because they don't have girlfriends to spend time with. And they don't have girlfriends because they don't respect women.
That's all there is to it.
Of course, like a lot people faced with similar problems, they will look for an outward explanation that doesn't involve change or introspection.
... and so enters "alphas", andrew tate, trump, incels, red pill, etc.
You can't shit on men 24/7 for years, saying they're responsible for everything bad in the world, and tell them they have to renounce every right, even to their own safety and happiness, and expect them to take it with a smile.
(And when I say "you", it's not you personally, it's a general you)
I think many men are threatened by the social disassociation of woman from their lives, and they would rather feel hate then weakened and lonely or powerless so the consequence is they end up making derogatory stereotypes about all woman based on a small group of them who mistreated them or did not reciprocate their desires for them.
What is red pilled? How many pill colors are there? Dunno. Not interested.
Quite a number of men are really over being labelled as toxic and I don't think it is any more complex than that. I think an adverse reaction can be anticipated. If it was reversed there would loud anger.
"The red pill and blue pill represent a choice between the willingness to learn a potentially unsettling or life-changing truth by taking the red pill or remaining in the contented experience of ordinary reality with the blue pill"So I'm not sure what you mean by red filled. Can you vlarify?
Oh I'm chronically online teenager, let me be your encyclopaedia.
So this idea was popularised by Andrew Tate, not sure if he invented it but he sure as hell made it well known. He believes in what he calls the Matrix, that men are surrounded by a false reality breeding them lies and must find the truth. There are two options:
Blue pilled- You accept the lies around you. These lies being that personality matters more than looks, there are plenty of fish in the sea, and all women are kind people. Red pilled- You accept the... ahem- truth. This truth being that you must succeed physically and financially if you ever want to have a dating life. This means working out, starting businesses, sleeping around no-strings-attached etc, until when you're 40, settling down with a 20 year old virgin who will provide you children.
So... if a guy is red-pilled... he's a misogynist who was given the most god awful advice 😀 He's destined to live a sad life, hating all women as he builds his life around women's desires. It is a pathetic, yet sadly modern, way to live for many men.
@wiltingrosepetal Uh no, just because Tate has extreme views you disagree with does not make him “misogynistic” - you’re being a slave to fashion just like the asker. Men needing to succeed financially and physically is an idea that has been going around since the dawn of civilization - Tate didn’t somehow come up with this new idea.
Naturally, any experienced man will tell you that you don’t need to be a millionaire or super in shape to get women, but it definitely helps. Lastly, your assumption that men who follow this advice is doomed to a fiery hell along with their best friend Satan, when I can tell you it’s actually quite the opposite. There are always young girls looking for older men with money - I wouldn’t date women like that, but everybody has preferences (am I misogynistic now?).
What you and many people, including all the misandrists out there fail to see is that Tate is being targeted by the far Left simply because he is going up against the modern narrative. Any man who goes against the system is usually killed or at least destroyed reputation wise.
@StormMistress Well, I guess you now know how we men feel to be called “misogynistic” or “toxic masculinity” all the time when you’re being called a “bitch” or “slut” simply because you disagree with the modern narrative.
@Inbox not a fan of Tate, just because he said "it's better fuck Megan Fox with a dick, flop it aside, than to fuck Hulk Hogan who has a pussy".
No, for other reasons, it's very obvious that, not only is he making money off gullible people while not being too helpful in return (know people in real life who listen to him a lot and they objectively turned into worse humans... once they quit they became better men.) He's not at all preaching the real solution to break down the matrix, rather only adapting to have comfort within it. "Survival of the fittest" in other words is "benefitting at the expense of others even when it's immoral" which is exactly what the handful of rulers owning the world rely on. If law enforcement didn't follow the "survival of the fittest" they wouldn't follow immoral orders.
But for real anyone encouraging men to become truly masculine is hated and censored more than some pervert castrating children (modern heros) just look at Mark Bell one of the most famous powerlifters was wiped off youtube in one instant just days ago.
@ButtFloggedTroll Yeah, I don’t like him either for a number reasons. Especially since his empire was built upon conning desperate men looking for a woman, only to have their savings wiped out.
Yeah, true masculinity is being targeted just like true feminine behaviors because it goes against the current narrative. It’s getting wayyy to extreme now here in the West, where countries around the world are looking at us like we’re crazy. Although with any extremist movement, a counter one is inevitable as we have seen throughout history and signs are showing themselves now.
They want instant gratification and they expect people to want them, and when reality shows that's not how the world works, they blame those that reject them instead of their own failings of self.
Show me a man who is red pilled and I’ll show you a man who was hurt by multiple women and then humiliated and demeaned for complaining about being humiliated.
the red pill isn’t a movement of truth.
its what happens when women and society become obsessed with humiliating men and demand they be okay with it.
I had my children, got divorced. I felt like it was impossible to live my life and be happy with a woman in my life. I tried having a girlfriend a couple of times after deciding that I was better off without them but quickly regretted deciding to have a relationship. So I chose a Quality of life.
Because they can't get away with talking that way in person so they hide their feeling than take it out online. I've noticed red pilled guys are basically like cyber bullies
Small minds are easy to brainwash, and that is what is happening a lot these days. However, there are many men that can see through the BS and don't follow this internet trend of woman bashing.
1. Most of them do not date, so they have a lot of time. 2. Militants tend to be vocal, so there are probably fewer than it seems. 3. Sometimes people get mislabeled. I've been called that because of my hesitancy about marriage under current laws.
Maybe your on the wrong platforms, there are for sure a lot of misogynistic assholes on the web but i think that because they're losers and don't have a life outside of the internet they are overrepresented
The ones like that are just losers with feminine traits. It's nothing to worry about because at least you don't get stuck accidentally dating a loser like that since they show you how pathetic they really are.
@Asad1ONE1 Its only an insult when men act feminine not when women do, we are supposed to be feminine, dumb ass. Stop writing me, you only write because you feel offended by what I say. It isn't like I am someone you want to be with, so why do my preferences and opinions offend you?
@Asad1ONE1 If you ACT weak, you ARE weak. Weakness is off putting to any gender. But weak men are less accepted than weak woman. Hence why it is kind of gendered.
What Girls & Guys Said
Opinion
78Opinion
well... if you go fishing out in pond you are gonna catch lots of blue gill. the online pond has these guys...
they've suffered and drawn wrong conclusions... or ones that look right... and they don't want to chagne their minds.
Some people held onto the titanic as it went down...
Its interesting that when an injustice is pointed out that upsets the statuesque that there are so many people who then wonder why someone cates.
Not all red pill people are incells, misogynists, nor unreasonable. They jist are working towards equality, just like you.
There's a lot of wrong in this world and men also face discrimination and injust and unequal treatment. To point that out and work towards change isn't inherently wrong.
*Status Quo damned voice to text. LOL
They are frustrated and they have way too much time on their hands partly because they don't have girlfriends to spend time with. And they don't have girlfriends because they don't respect women.
That's all there is to it.
Of course, like a lot people faced with similar problems, they will look for an outward explanation that doesn't involve change or introspection.
... and so enters "alphas", andrew tate, trump, incels, red pill, etc.
You can't shit on men 24/7 for years, saying they're responsible for everything bad in the world, and tell them they have to renounce every right, even to their own safety and happiness, and expect them to take it with a smile.
(And when I say "you", it's not you personally, it's a general you)
I think many men are threatened by the social disassociation of woman from their lives, and they would rather feel hate then weakened and lonely or powerless so the consequence is they end up making derogatory stereotypes about all woman based on a small group of them who mistreated them or did not reciprocate their desires for them.
What is red pilled? How many pill colors are there? Dunno. Not interested.
Quite a number of men are really over being labelled as toxic and I don't think it is any more complex than that. I think an adverse reaction can be anticipated. If it was reversed there would loud anger.
Because they are such a mini that people irl won't listen to them, hence they have to go online for emotional support
No one's forcing you to date them. If it's that important to you, then date guys who aren't red pilled.
Their rarity may make them more in demand so you better be bringing something to the table and not just the belief that you're entitled to a good man.
"The red pill and blue pill represent a choice between the willingness to learn a potentially unsettling or life-changing truth by taking the red pill or remaining in the contented experience of ordinary reality with the blue pill"So I'm not sure what you mean by red filled. Can you vlarify?
Oh I'm chronically online teenager, let me be your encyclopaedia.
So this idea was popularised by Andrew Tate, not sure if he invented it but he sure as hell made it well known. He believes in what he calls the Matrix, that men are surrounded by a false reality breeding them lies and must find the truth. There are two options:
Blue pilled- You accept the lies around you. These lies being that personality matters more than looks, there are plenty of fish in the sea, and all women are kind people.
Red pilled- You accept the... ahem- truth. This truth being that you must succeed physically and financially if you ever want to have a dating life. This means working out, starting businesses, sleeping around no-strings-attached etc, until when you're 40, settling down with a 20 year old virgin who will provide you children.
So... if a guy is red-pilled... he's a misogynist who was given the most god awful advice 😀 He's destined to live a sad life, hating all women as he builds his life around women's desires. It is a pathetic, yet sadly modern, way to live for many men.
@wiltingrosepetal Uh no, just because Tate has extreme views you disagree with does not make him “misogynistic” - you’re being a slave to fashion just like the asker. Men needing to succeed financially and physically is an idea that has been going around since the dawn of civilization - Tate didn’t somehow come up with this new idea.
Naturally, any experienced man will tell you that you don’t need to be a millionaire or super in shape to get women, but it definitely helps. Lastly, your assumption that men who follow this advice is doomed to a fiery hell along with their best friend Satan, when I can tell you it’s actually quite the opposite. There are always young girls looking for older men with money - I wouldn’t date women like that, but everybody has preferences (am I misogynistic now?).
What you and many people, including all the misandrists out there fail to see is that Tate is being targeted by the far Left simply because he is going up against the modern narrative. Any man who goes against the system is usually killed or at least destroyed reputation wise.
@StormMistress Well, I guess you now know how we men feel to be called “misogynistic” or “toxic masculinity” all the time when you’re being called a “bitch” or “slut” simply because you disagree with the modern narrative.
@Inbox not a fan of Tate, just because he said "it's better fuck Megan Fox with a dick, flop it aside, than to fuck Hulk Hogan who has a pussy".
No, for other reasons, it's very obvious that, not only is he making money off gullible people while not being too helpful in return (know people in real life who listen to him a lot and they objectively turned into worse humans... once they quit they became better men.) He's not at all preaching the real solution to break down the matrix, rather only adapting to have comfort within it. "Survival of the fittest" in other words is "benefitting at the expense of others even when it's immoral" which is exactly what the handful of rulers owning the world rely on. If law enforcement didn't follow the "survival of the fittest" they wouldn't follow immoral orders.
But for real anyone encouraging men to become truly masculine is hated and censored more than some pervert castrating children (modern heros) just look at Mark Bell one of the most famous powerlifters was wiped off youtube in one instant just days ago.
@ButtFloggedTroll Yeah, I don’t like him either for a number reasons. Especially since his empire was built upon conning desperate men looking for a woman, only to have their savings wiped out.
Yeah, true masculinity is being targeted just like true feminine behaviors because it goes against the current narrative. It’s getting wayyy to extreme now here in the West, where countries around the world are looking at us like we’re crazy. Although with any extremist movement, a counter one is inevitable as we have seen throughout history and signs are showing themselves now.
They want instant gratification and they expect people to want them, and when reality shows that's not how the world works, they blame those that reject them instead of their own failings of self.
Show me a man who is red pilled and I’ll show you a man who was hurt by multiple women and then humiliated and demeaned for complaining about being humiliated.
the red pill isn’t a movement of truth.
its what happens when women and society become obsessed with humiliating men and demand they be okay with it.
I had my children, got divorced. I felt like it was impossible to live my life and be happy with a woman in my life. I tried having a girlfriend a couple of times after deciding that I was better off without them but quickly regretted deciding to have a relationship. So I chose a Quality of life.
Because they can't get away with talking that way in person so they hide their feeling than take it out online. I've noticed red pilled guys are basically like cyber bullies
Small minds are easy to brainwash, and that is what is happening a lot these days. However, there are many men that can see through the BS and don't follow this internet trend of woman bashing.
1. Most of them do not date, so they have a lot of time.
2. Militants tend to be vocal, so there are probably fewer than it seems.
3. Sometimes people get mislabeled. I've been called that because of my hesitancy about marriage under current laws.
The red pill fraction falls for the same type of social polarization, self-victimization and hubris like the left turning fraction.
Men are men. I wouldn't generalize in this topic too much because it sounds hypocritical as well
Maybe your on the wrong platforms, there are for sure a lot of misogynistic assholes on the web but i think that because they're losers and don't have a life outside of the internet they are overrepresented
The ones like that are just losers with feminine traits. It's nothing to worry about because at least you don't get stuck accidentally dating a loser like that since they show you how pathetic they really are.
Ah this loser again 😲. You just insulted yourself by insulting feminine traits wtf?
@Asad1ONE1 Its only an insult when men act feminine not when women do, we are supposed to be feminine, dumb ass. Stop writing me, you only write because you feel offended by what I say. It isn't like I am someone you want to be with, so why do my preferences and opinions offend you?
There are no feminine or masculine traits. Only "human" traits.
@Asad1ONE1 Okay, whatever you say. 😒
Yes whatever I say!
@Asad1ONE1 There did you get it out of your system? Now don't EVER write to me again. K thnx!
Learn to write ✍️
@Asad1ONE1 Learn to get a life.
Learn to think 🤔
@Asad1ONE1 Learn to fuck off :D
Learn to speak 🗣️
@Asad1ONE1 Learn to read.
Learn to take a pic 📸
@Asad1ONE1 Learn to take your own advice.
Learn that traits and preferences aren't gendered.
@Asad1ONE1 If you ACT weak, you ARE weak. Weakness is off putting to any gender. But weak men are less accepted than weak woman. Hence why it is kind of gendered.
That I'll agree with and well thank you! I'll take that as a compliment 😌.
So proud much is expected of men and we're held to higher standards 🙏.
Love to be a leader.
@Asad1ONE1 Yeah you do that. Now don't write to me, since I rather not see or hear from you.
Sounds like you're "suffering".
@Asad1ONE1 It's been over 2 weeks, why you coming back to this? Looks to me you are the one suffering and dying to hear from me again LOL
Lol.
seriously It is really weird I've seen it lately all the time makes me cirnge
Imagine blaming women for one's own problems it is so deluded. Even to the extent of being hostile to men who love and get on well with women
Its just a small minority, but like many minorities these are really loud online.