Like seriously it’s getting kind of scary. It seems 90% of men online are just sexist misogynistic aholes that think their problems are due to women not wanting them. Like dude the problem isn’t us. The problem is you being an ahole.
What happened to men? Most used to be more mellow and friendly but now all I have to do is say something wrong to them and I’m an immediate bitch or slut.
“Most used to be more mellow and friendly“
Alright first off there really are men who 24/7 complain about women and never show any optimism/understanding whatsoever. I just want to acknowledge that and make it clear I do see that. I got a lot of gripes of my own but I have been asking myself “what does this accomplish?” a lot more lately. If it’s just for sake of arguing then it’s a exercise in futility and a huge waste of time.
All I can say to those guys is thar regardless of what happened to them (and some really did have horrible experiences with women) no amount of complaining (justified or not) will ever substitute happiness and success.
Sure it feels good to ventilate occasionally. But you need to have a plan of action after ventilating. Getting pissed off for the sake of getting pissed off accomplishes nothing. It’s extremely unhealthy. But I can also see how men feel like they don’t have “a voice” in modern society and I will explain more below.
Here are some key points you need to consider:
Anyway you need to take a step back and first ask men who argue with you “hey are you happy” and calmly await their response. Ask them what they are looking to accomplish in life. Because that’s the question I am now asking women when they bring up subjects I disagree with nowadays: are you happy and fulfilled by how you look at things? Is this improving your well being? What is your goal?
Again do not think about yourself immediately when you are dealing with an argumentative person (it’s natural to be defensive but resist the temptation). Instead ask the other person why they think that way. You would be surprised how some people will react to that question. It often disarms them but in actuality a lot of men just want to be heard and taken seriously. And just listening to someone doesn’t mean you always agree them.
The short and simple answer is too many guys aren't getting laid and discover the Red Pill when they try to find out why. Hoeflation, the phenomenon that sees men having to work much harder than his grandfather to get a woman much worse than his grandmother is a reality that most men are suffering from.
Let's take a regular average guy: Joe Schmoe. Joe is 5'9", 5/10 in looks and makes around $50,000 a year. Over 90% of modern women will automatically look over Joe and never give him a chance or put him in the friend-zone because he's not over 6' and making six figures. This is because most modern women have been indoctrinated to think that they are all 10's even if they are fat so they think Joe is beneath them. He has been on a few dates but they were foodie calls or ended in "Let's just be friends" or was just ghosted. Whenever he complains about his situation he is mocked as an incel, told to check his privilege and that he's not entitled to sex regardless of how much of his money and time he invests. All the advice given to him by mainstream society is at best worthless and at worst hurts his self-esteem. Joe then decides to research his predicament and finds that the only people who aren't shaming him for wanting to get laid are those dastardly Red-pillers like Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines, so he listens to them, starts lifting and getting his money up while learning not to treat these modern promiscuous thots like they are the ladies their grandmothers were. He very likely will get laid or at the very least stop wasting his time and money on women who aren't putting out.
The real question you should be asking is: why shouldn't he listen to the red-pillers when they are the only ones who both acknowledge his problems and give him actionable advice on how to solve them? I see no reason why he shouldn't listen to Tate and guys like him, and hollow accusations of misogyny or whatever don't count.
I honestly feel bad for the young men that see that kind of content and think that’s normal. It teaches a bad mentality whenever it comes to having healthy relationships. There might be one piece of good advice that gets warped into something toxic. As far as men in general tho that subscribe to that kind of content they’re not worth the energy as far as relationships go. They bring nothing of value to me and there is something wrong with them that would make them vulnerable to those types of values/beliefs. I would say the majority of men in the real world are fine, it’s just when you’re on the internet like minded people tend to flock to the same websites etc to get validation since they’re probably not getting that offline
They can see that men aren’t doing as well as they used to. Less in schools. More committing suicide. More being lonely. When women were not in school, suicidal and lonely it was in part sexism’s fault. Now they feel it must be gender equality that is doing these things to them.
They don’t realize men have a higher suicide rate because they have more access to guns. They’re more lonely because they’re not allowed to share their feelings and have platonic intimacy the same way we are. In truth men would now benefit as much as women from a complete throwing out of gender norms.
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There are still plenty of better men out there who don’t buy into that bs.
It’s more of that men are stepping up and becoming men… they tried the sensitive soy boy thing that all women claim to want, it didn’t work, and they’ve been walked on enough to know that they need to harden up!
As a woman, you will likely lose a bit of power you once had over them, and that will piss you off, but in the end, you’ll be better off for it and SO WILL THE GUY… he can shake off and avoid the things he was once devastated by, with women and when that man with real leadership qualities comes into your life and you want him and he wants you… there you go.
You women really need to wake up to the fact that you are all blinded by these left wing ideals. There’s a balance to being a mature adult absolutely, the left and right sensibilities… but the soft, sensitive man thing just ain’t it. We have to step up and be men. I know girl power is in, but we can’t let women walk all over us. Shocking and “dangerous” I know lol, but it’s all a freaking joke and you don’t seem to see it. That’s the scary part. After all we’ve been through in the last few years and people still don’t get it.
These men are tired of being constantly by the media, academia, government institutions, etc that there is something fundamentally wrong with them.
They grow up with all these messages saying that they are stupid, disgusting, that they are responsible for the opression of women, rapists, wife beaters and violent in general. In addition to being required to be reeducated out of these behaviors like domesticated animals being taught not to piss on the floor.
Boys and men who fall for these narratives are in the state of being blue-pilled. They spend their days in self pity, looking at themselves in the mirror and repeating all of these things to themselves because that is what they have been conditioned to think of themselves to be: monsters.
Red-pilled is when a man realizes how fucked up these messages are and that women are just as susceptible to these same corruptions as men are because they are both human. For whatever reason, such thinking is frowned upon in our society.
Redpill isn't about sexism or misogyny; then again, people nowadays throw these words around without even knowing what they mean, or just think whatever mass media tells them to think. Redpill is simply understanding how the world really works, accepting it and adapting to it accordingly to one's best personal benefit.
Additionally, redpill seldom blames women for men's problems, unless they're related to such things as biased, unfair laws. Redpill can highlight the stupidity and unpleasant fuckery of both men and modern protected class women; simply when redpill chastises men for their failures, nobody bats an eye and ever mentions it, but when redpill highlights negative aspects of modern women and/or exposes unpleasant elements of their nature, then it's somehow a problem.
In any case, considering your age, what you wrote in your profile and your picture, I assume that an "asshole" in your view is simply a man who doesn't bow down to your demands.
The vast majority of men are "mellow and friendly", but they are not allowed to bring up any problems they see or are having through 'Main Stream Media' so they go to the internet to find a space to air the problems they see or are having, but this is important they are not the ones that rant 24/7/365, those one that have had to suffer what is called 'divorce rape' by the biased organisation called "Family Court" which is totally in favour of women, and where fathers and what few rights they have are completely disrespected. only in the very few cases where the mothers are totally psychotic do the fathers end up with custody.
What happened to men in Australia?
Take a damn good look around you. Men are denigrated in Australia to a level I never thought I'd see, If they live out in bush towns then good for them, If they live in the likes of Melbourn, Sydney, Canberra, the local governments se them as behind the family pet in level of importance.
I do not live in Australia, I have relatives there so I've visited more than a few times and worked there in WA, NSW, VIC, and each time Its been progressively worse, I've also worked in the US where I thought is was bad for guys, but over the last 5 years Australia has taken it to a whole new level, with New Zealand running a close second
That's the kind of thing that happens when it's socially acceptable to criticize one group of people but not socially acceptable to criticize another.
A lot of those guys have lots of life experiences with women being super abusive and aggressive towards men who didn't do anything to warrant the treatment that they're getting.
The sad reality is that, in the same way lots of women have never had a positive relationship with any man in life; lots of men have never had a positive relationship with any woman in life, period. And to act like there aren't abusive women out there would be absurd.
The difference is that broader society accepts women openly criticizing men, but tells men to shut up; that's why they end up online. Because no one else is letting them speak.
Because every guy has been screwed over, been directly related to, or known a guy that’s been destroyed by a woman and/or the government policies that are explicitly written to protect women, regardless of who is at fault. I’ve seen my own family members screw over guys and cry about being the victim while taking no accountability. The whole “X Person doesn’t represent everyone” only lasts for so long until you realize it’s a coin flip, at best. And the punishment for getting that coin flip wrong is a life of servitude to the state.
It’s not getting better either. It’s getting worse.
Right wing billionaires actually employ full time trolls to push men online into becoming redpill. Actual, salaried, full time careers. Because seeing lots of presumably women but having none of them through a mechanism where chance seems to be the blame more so than their own social ineptitude, as is the case with online 'dating,' is a convenient stepping stone for tapping in to the common and maybe even healthy frustrations all men have with women. Get them loyal to right wing ideology by proxy. Then the tax cuts for billionaires and giving the rich more power can be a neglected ridealong to those grievances instead of the whole point of creating the troll farm industry in the first place..
in my opinion it’s because men are finally getting tired of the bs that women put them through. Sure men have put women through some bullshit too, but in general men usually let women get away w it. Women not so much. As far back as I can remember it’s always been acceptable for women to trash men. From TLC to Taylor Swift. Society has let women get away w false accusations, ruining some men’s lives w no repercussions on her end. Now that a lot of men are doing exactly what women have been doing for years they don’t like it. They see what a lot of their friends have gone through, maybe their fathers, brothers, uncles, etc. Women have been assholes for years, put down men, etc. Told men we don’t need them, we’re strong, independent, etc. Now it’s coming back on women because men are finally deciding to not take this bullshit no more.
Lotta truth there, but to act like it just came outta nowhere is a little wild.
I think that the world is changing right now. It's not a guy working a 40 hour work week supporting a whole family anymore. Gender roles are being mix ashed and abandoned right now.
As a society, we pretty much had everyone's role in life largely figured out for them.
I agree most of the problem is the bs men are told about woman. But all that hyper sexualization and misogyny didn't just randomly appear out of thin air.
I guess that unjustified insults like "bitch", "slut", "shit", "arshole", etc., are words so over used that they loose their real strength. A similar phenomenon in French is the use of the word "putain" (whore in English), when anything not related to girls goes wrong or not as expected. I'm not sure most people are aware of the real value of those words, their real significance wearing out time passing by.
And last but not least, on the Web, everything must seemingly go quickly and if possible only in black or white, winner or looser... Maybe a matter of education in general.
girl i believe you are confusing red and black here, black pill is the one who hates woman for their problems with them, red pill does not actively hate and instead uses womans behaviors against them to obtain what they want,
example: black pilled guy: gets angry because woman like money and believes if they were reach woman would be all around them.
red pilled guy: knows woman loves the money and not the guy and knows such a girl is not even worth considering a human and just uses her desire for the money in order to let's say have sex with or something else if he has it in his mind.
also of course we get angry if you say something wrong normal people does that you know? or do you say thank you when someone says something wrong to you?
also misogyny? i might puke if i see this word once again, for these days only thing man should have to do for being a misogynyst is acting like a man and not a wannabe nice guy.
Today, many guys online feel lonely and lost.
They don’t know what it means to be a man, so they look for guidance, coming across viral influencers like Andrew Tate.
They don’t know how to be successful with women or how to navigate the dating world, so they look for guidance, coming across various influencers that promote “Red Pill” ideologies.
Both Andrew Tate and Red Pill fall under the “Manosphere” which is a large umbrella of online content that focuses on resolving men’s issues.
Guys are looking for answers online, and there are tons of Red Pill content that claim to have the answer.
These lost and lonely guys online (which is an enormous demographic) eat it all up.
Healthier and more wholesome alternatives seem to spread less virally.
Which, I suppose makes sense, algorithmically. (Politically-charged and polarizing content often generates a lot of buzz and a lot of views, spreading harmful ideologies even faster.)
This is very difficult to answer without a general consensus on the definition of red pill. Would be helpful if you could list which definition of red pill you are referring too. That being said I have been unable to find a statistic on what % of men are 'red pilled' what I was able to find is that apparently around 63% of American men claim they fit the definition of 'men go their own way' though from what I could find it seems their is also a growing population of men refusing to marry American women, refusing to pay for them, refusing to spend time with them etc. So without better information and sources I can only speculate based on most common definitions listed online
While a lot of Red pill content definitely can be toxic, it's not inherently misogynistic and sexist.. Also if you've seen how a lot of women act, a lot of women do cause a lot of men to gravitate towards the Red pill.. But also the constant vilifying of men for what few other men seem to do in life..
You just get tired of hearing how horrible you might be just for having penis.. A lot of guys have been hurt by women and Red pilled content spoke to them, not blaming women, but giving them a reason and explaining to them like a father why some things are the way they are.. A lot of it is bad advice, but there's a lot of good things as well..
It's really only online. The redpill guys aren't great socially at all so they mainly live on the internet. Theh don't reallly socialize in real life. So thats why you see so much online out if them. They just live online and watch andrew Tate videos qnd tiktok and youtube videos that trash women.
I don’t know any man who values his masculinity who spends so much time online. They all have something in common. These are the guys you see in life who are socially awkward and unkept.
Anyway, of course online is a breeding ground for this type of man. He has no control over the aspects of his real life and how he is perceived, so he chooses to be nasty online.
I never confuse a realistic man with an internet man. Most realistic men in life for the most part barely even use the internet whereas the sassy red pill men you see on the internet gossip more than teenage girls.
m Loudest minority. Its not much in reality but specifically looking On sites like this make it seem worse concerning the ammount.
doesn't make their behavior right or better.
Also these people dont get out of their house. Where would they meet if not online?
u You must be on socials often enough...
You rarely see this shit on real life, actually never have
Because EVERY man has had bad experiences. I'm in a relationship and still consider myself red pilled, careful as hell not to get screwed over again. Unfortunately that also means romance is dead and instead relationships become more a matter of practicality.
