How much do you value honesty, integrity, and morality in a political candidate?

[OtterMan68]

A LOT! I would never vote for a candidate who was not of outstanding character, honesty, and high moral character!

I don't mind if the candidate is not totally honest and moral as long as I agree with the policies

I'm not voting for a pastor! I'm OK going full Machiavelli. Just get the job done, and forget the honest and morality

[D_Bone_Steak]

I don't mind if the candidate is not totally honest and moral as long as I agree with the policies

And yes, I will be voting for Trump.

Nothing... as usual.

And for those who would attack me for that... I take notice that they have nothing to say except to attack Trump himself. He's not perfect, but his shit was working way better than this shit. I don't want more of this shit.

Also, note that I'm not Republican. I'm not a Trumpster or his biggest fan. I'm looking at two options, I've seen them both in power... if some shithead comes here to ridicule me, they can go suck some tranny dick.

[lightbulb27]

did you vote for him time 1 and also time 2?
curious if you are swing voter...

[D_Bone_Steak]

@lightbulb27 The first time I didn't vote at all. My side-chick at the time said she was voting Trump and I told her "Why bother? the elections are rigged and it's just going to be Hill dogg and feminism and war will take over.

Then it happened... he won. The same chick asked me how I felt about it. "I don't know, but this is going to be interesting."

I watched him... eventually, I joined in on my commentary. I hated certain things... like bombing of Seria or trying to ban vape flavors.

I voted the second time for Trump. He lost... and we got what we got. Now I'm all out, voting for Trump again. I would for Kennedy, but let's be real... that dude isn't going to win. I want my tax return to look good again... I want realistic taxes to go down again. I want to keep my propane stove. I'm tired of high gas prices and high prices for everything slowly going up. I want Trump again.

... and fuck Ukraine. It's obvious Biden is making money of money being sent there just like he did during Obama as VP. Fuck Joe Biden is my overall feelings about everything.

I am a swing voter... I would've voted for Tulsi Gabbard, but look at what she did.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I hated every Republican since Reagan... Trump is my exception.

[lightbulb27]

we are seeing things very much the same, I did very similar. I voted 3rd partyfirst time around... didn't like either, but he was better than I thought and way more favorable than Biden. agree on kennedy, etc..
interesting...

[D_Bone_Steak]

@lightbulb27 Sounds like we're two peas in a pod... disaffected liberal? That's me basically.

[lightbulb27]

I had to look that up, yes, I have some of what I see as liberal views but I slid right.
Might you be Italian? Probably something in the meatballs...

[D_Bone_Steak]

@lightbulb27 I grew up being told I was Italian, then my Grandmother told me I was German... I finally just got a DNA test... I'm pretty much just Irish with a splash of Swiss and 0.08% Eastern European. When I was real young my Great Grandmother would tell me I'm related to Geronimo... an appachee Native American. All those women just make shit up, I swear. I'm so damn white, with teeth like a T-Rex and the only thing interesting about me is my hair color changed from almost white blond to dirty blond and my eye color switches from green to blue and back all the time. ... Sometimes just hazel.

[lightbulb27]

haha... watch those grandmas, they are tricksters!:)
Yea, I've seen eyes change color. I believe changes with mood... cool.

[Zestyassmf1997]

People living in a country that proclaims itself as “the greatest republic in the world” are entitled to excellent leaders. We should not settle for anything less than excellent candidates. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

[Anonymous]

I think the veil has been pulled back so far on the secrecy of the white house and of the presidency, that we can't unsee it. Anything can be dug up from the time you were born until now, so there is no pure shining light that the country used to believe our president was supposed to be or at least to believe in the illusion of it. Now, both sides, are wanting to win so bad, they actually don't seem to care about the actual job anymore, just who can be on top of the pile.

[katiesmuff]

Using this for a poll Trump doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning. In fact I'm not sure left between Trump and Biden who you could vote for so you pick the lesser of two evils. Sad that the United States has come to this!!

[wolfcat87]

That's the main problem, we are allowing ourselves to be pushed into voting for horrible people rather than rejecting the two party system.

[BadApple69]

There isn’t 1 person in politics that’s totally honest. To use a famous movie quote “the truth? You can’t handle the truth”.
Politics is all deal making and if you had someone totally honest he/she would never come out on top of any deal. As an example dealing with North Korea. You can’t tell the leader of North Korea that if he does this or that you will retaliate with bad words… you have to make a threat that whether you mean it or not sounds real.
When it comes to up and coming natural disasters the citizens want to hear that you are prepared and if there are problems your government is ready to deploy all necessary first responders.
The last thing citizens want to hear is the truth… well, we don’t have enough police, fireman, or first aid workers and when this disaster hits you are all fucked!
Truth is something I feel strongly about but it’s something that doesn’t work well in politics.

[Anonymous]

Those things are all great, but what really matters are the policy positions of whomever you're voting for. That's why so many people still vote for Biden, even though he's clearly corrupt and mentally incompetent, and so many people still vote for Trump, even though he's clearly a serial liar and kinda nuts.

[blueonblack22]

It’s literally impossible to be a politician without shades of grey. But who I am most pissed off as that down syndrome primary voters who pushed Biden through in 2020 and Trump through in 2024.

I want Biden out out OUT and straight to the nursing home where he belongs. He’s beyond senile, corrupt and incompetent.

But I am not excited about voting for Trump. But I am voting for Trump and if you don’t like you can f*ck yourself.

[PeachyPie93]

Do you mind not using down syndrome as an insult for dumbass people. Get some class, you are 38 for fuck sakes.

[blueonblack22]

@PeachyPie93 did you vote for Trudeau?

[PeachyPie93]

Nah I don't vote anymore because who I vote for never win.

[blueonblack22]

@PeachyPie93 do you have a relative who has down syndrome?

Just for the record I put down BOTH people who pushed through Trump and Biden in the primaries. This is about to be one of the ugliest and most depressing general elections in American history.

I am not nor ever was a “MAGA supporter”. But the leftist I’ve met in the last 7 years could care less. To them Nazi = alt right = maga supporters = anybody who voted for Trump = anybody who doesn’t adhere to the woke leftist ideology.

You think me calling people “Down syndrome” is bad? Leftists have been calling conservatives that and worse for years on end now. Not just random Joe’s either but smug elitists like Hillary Clinton calling half of all Republican voters “deplorables”.

So yes at 38 i will call people who voted Biden in the 2020 primaries and Trump in the 2024 primaries “down syndrome”. Because they have now set up a lose/lose scenario for the USA.

I can understand the impetus to defend Trump given the legal insanity of all the bs “trumped” up charged against him. Ironically leftist elitists orchestrated that thinking he was the most beatable candidate for Biden. But Biden is so beyond incompetent that Trump has been consistently up on him in the polls. But it’s still scary close though.

But at the end of the day I care about POLICY OVER PERSONALITY. Trump had overall much better policy.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Get some class... she has down syndrome 😆 😂 🤣

[blueonblack22]

@D_Bone_Steak well she hasn’t thrown out any leftist attack labels (yet) so I am trying to give her the benefit of the doubt.

But if you think wokeness is bad in the USA just look at what’s happened to Canada under Trudeau. They were freezing peaceful protestors bank accounts during the truckers protests. They are threatening to take away Jordan Peterson doctorate credentials unless he attends “diversity training” where he will be forced to acknowledge that “gender is socially created”.

But I didn’t assume that about her yet. I want to hear what’s she’s going to say.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I'm with you 100%... this woke virus is a pain in the ass and it seems to have infected too many people for years. I see what you're doing... you are playing ball and playing by the rules. Neither you nor I will be surprised though when she responds with some liberal bullshit on the woke side of things.

But I'm not going to be surprised if she hits us with some "You're literally Hitler, I'm shaking" bullshit.

[PeachyPie93]

Yeah my little brother had down syndrome he died when he was 12. Because doctors didn't think he was worth living so lied to my mother about his heart condition until it was too late to save him. Then the old cunt doctor died before my mom could sue her. So when people talk shit like they are stupid it pissed me off.
@D_Bone_Steak As for you, mind your business I wasn't talking to you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@PeachyPie93 No and fuck you. ... I'm not going to let go of the fact that you probably voted for the hell we've endured the last 4 years.

You want more of this... you like it. Yeah, so fuck you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@blueonblack22 I know I'm coming off as a dick towards her right now... but try to remember how she came at you right from the start before you "correct me." ... there is reason to my rhyme.

[D_Bone_Steak]

She used identity politics right from the start. I don't care about her identity. That doesn't make right and wrong. I spit on this piece of trash.

[PeachyPie93]

@D_Bone_Steak Buddy I don't care about you or your politics, I am not American for one thing and two go fuck yourself. Don't you have disabled kids? How do you feel when they go to school and kids bully them and think they are right in doing so? You are the trash so don't come at me because I hit kid my age in the back of the head with a 2 by 4 and gave him a concussion for saying shit to my brother so I would have no problem doing it to you if I ever came across you.

[blueonblack22]

@PeachyPie93 you can’t expect me to know your personal background and what you been through right off the bat.

But we are so used to seeing people using hypocritical “woke shaming” (especially if it’s a political subject) it’s hard not to assume you aren’t one of those types if you don’t provide context. Not saying you are like this but I’ve so many leftists shame people for using certain insults/labels and yet turn around and call conservatives every name in the book. THAT double standard pisses me off.

Anyway I’m sorry about what happened to your brother. Truly I am. If you would have explained that from the start I would reacted differently.

[PeachyPie93]

Yeah I understand that, I personally have no views on the presidential election because I personally don't actually care about it lol. I don't even care about my PM because it never gets any better. I have no opinion on any of the candidates or the people. I just got pissed about the word usage because I see so many people online saying stuff about DS people so I got ticked off. It really had nothing to do with your views, so no worries its fine :)

[blueonblack22]

@PeachyPie93 alright cool. Not everybody is a troll on here. It’s just that wokeness has gotten so insane (and hypocritical) that is usually we are dealing with. So the context matters a whole hell of a lot.

My advice is try to give people one chance when you see something that pisses you off. If they persist then feel free to tear into them (or block if you don’t want to waste your time). Anyway I hope you have a nice day. 👍

[blueonblack22]

Also @PeachyPie93 I once had a person tell me on GAG that my “opinion doesn’t matter” about gun control despite explaining that I had a relative who was a victim of a mass shooting. I was criticizing the asinine stupidity of “gun free zones” (my relative was shot on a college campus).

If I meet that guy in real life I would break all his teeth out of his f*cking mouth. I gave him a chance too but instead he doubled down. So I can relate to how you feel about when it’s a personal issue people ignorantly criticize. My advice is always give them one chance and/or just don’t engage with them. However if they still don’t get it after your initial response then all bets are off. Feel free to say whatever you want at that point.

I threatened that guy which is something I’ve never done on GAG before. But he more deserved it.

[SotiCoto]

Pointless question. Political candidates aren't honest, they aren't consistent, and they aren't decent... otherwise they'd never make it as politicians in the first place.

Politicians and Capitalists are much the same thing: They're lying, greedy, malicious scum-bags.

[mandyfire98]

I trust more alligators to not kill me than politicians to be honest and moral.

[Notherndude84]

I think we need to get to a place where politicians are accountable for what they say and do

[Anonymous]

I want them to actually do what they say. But, I’m not voting for a church leader at the polls. If they aren’t perfect I’m ok with that. Both sides accuse the other of being criminals no matter what.

[PeachyPie93]

There is no such thing as a moral political candidate. They all are liars and just want the lifetime supply of money they all get. Who ever you vote for is just gonna screw everyone over like they always do.

[strateguy632]

tnx for describing... trump he spoke about the pain that a fetus can feel. nobody is as moral as trump. he said build a wall and added to the border wall= honesty and integrity. no politician as good as trump.

[exitseven]

Nobody is perfect. It is the policies that are more important and as long as they behave in a honorable way while in office whet happened in the past is just the past. Everyone has one.

[summiter]

A lot that is why I will vote for any candidate from either party except Trump!

[gorydetails]

I want a candidate that follows the constitution, doesn't steal my tax dollars, and is very conservative when deciding to spend them. One that doesn't go around the world killing people to enrich the military-industrial complex.

[supercutebutt]

[gorydetails]

@supercutebutt yes, we all know you’re a loser.

[supercutebutt]

The emoji in question is indicating your loserish vibe. Those of us from Detroit are no longer losers, due to the hot Lions. 🦁

[gorydetails]

@supercutebutt You're from detroit? That explains tons.

[supercutebutt]

What does it explain, my cognitively impaired foe?

[gorydetails]

@supercutebutt You live in a 3rd world country in the US thanks to the politicians you support. You're the epitome of a shitlib.

[supercutebutt]

I live in the wealthiest county in the state, doof :)

[gorydetails]

@supercutebutt Only because the other counties are decimated. That's like being the least crazy person in the asylum and bragging about it.

[Djaay]

O value period from either side. Dishonest deceit , betrayal and immorality never prevails within any society.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Those are the virtues I only ask for in a public servant but I guess I'm just dreaming.

[Fireguy17]

has any candidate ever been totally honest and moral?
It's win at all costs, say what you have to in order to get elected.

[normalice]

I prefer it but don't expect it. We got real lucky with Joe biden.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I work in D. C. If I ever saw those traits I'd probably call the press.

[milyjohn]

At this point, I would settle for someone who could actually secure the border.

[Jamie05rhs]

It's too late for that. We're crossed that bridge a LONG time ago. I would have said Clinton, but it actually goes back to Nixon, and then Kennedy before him.

[loveslongnails]

I don't think there are many, if any candidates, that fit the first choice. So given that, I'd have to choose between the remaining two, and that means I'm forced to pick the second choice.

[WhitneySnow]

It matters a lot to me