Do you think Christian Nationalists should be called Nationalist Christians, or Nat-C's for short?

[goaded]

"Like, they're not going to end by taking away one right of women that has been constitutionally protected for 50 years. It goes from that to 10-year-old rape victims to IVF, and you watch, they're saying it, they're telling you, Thomas, JusticeThomas said it, they're coming for contraception next. They'll lie, but that's what their activists want to do.

"These radical, radical right-wing activists have infiltrated the Alabama Supreme Court. They will infiltrate another court, and you watch, Griswold v. Connecticut and the right for women to have contraception, that's coming down the road if this continues, if Donald Trump supporters have their way," Joe Scarborough predicted.

[Grond21]

Sounds like typical leftist projection to me

[goaded]

Well, gosh, that sounds like typical rightist projection to me!

When have the left taken away a right you've had for generations? When have the left ever actually "come for your guns", which you've been crying about for decades? Have you ever been forced into a same sex marriage? How about into a same sex relationship?

The worst they've ever done is ask you to be civil to other people.

P. S. It was Republicans who took away your right to own people...

[Grond21]

I'm... Impressed. A more disingenuous post I haven't seen for a while. Nice job!

[goaded]

So, not a single answer to a question.

[Grond21]

Every answer I give you will obfuscate, strawman, or ignore. I have seen the underhanded way you argue before

[goaded]

Pick any one of the questions, give an answer, and I promise not to respond. OK?

[Grond21]

That's fair

[goaded]

Go on, then. Answer any one of these, I will not repond. MHO is already yours.

When have the left taken away a right you've had for generations? When have the left ever actually "come for your guns", which you've been crying about for decades? Have you ever been forced into a same sex marriage? How about into a same sex relationship?

[Grond21]

I apologize. I was judgmental, and you didn't deserve that.

Regarding the gun issue,
- As gun sale rise, crime decreases. www.forbes.com/.../
- I apologize. I was judgmental, and you didn't deserve that.

Regarding the gun issue,
- As gun sale rise, crime decreases. www.forbes.com/.../
- We have compromised, over and over. Each time with the assurances that this was the last one and no more infringement actions would be taken.
have.

National Firearms Act ("NFA") (1934): Taxes the manufacture and transfer of, and mandates the registration of Title II weapons such as machine guns, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, heavy weapons, explosive ordnance, silencers, and disguised or improvised firearms.
Federal Firearms Act of 1938 ("FFA"): Requires that gun manufacturers, importers, and persons in the business of selling firearms have a Federal Firearms License (FFL). Prohibits the transfer of firearms to certain classes of persons, such as convicted felons.
Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (1968): Prohibited interstate trade in handguns, increased the minimum age to 21 for buying handguns.
Gun Control Act of 1968 ("GCA"): Focuses primarily on regulating interstate commerce in firearms by generally prohibiting interstate firearms transfers except among licensed manufacturers, dealers and importers.
Firearm Owners Protection Act ("FOPA") (1986): Revised and partially repealed the Gun Control Act of 1968. Prohibited the sale to civilians of automatic firearms manufactured after the date of the law's passage. Required ATF approval of transfers of automatic firearms.

[Grond21]

Undetectable Firearms Act (1988): Effectively criminalizes, with a few exceptions, the manufacture, importation, sale, shipment, delivery, possession, transfer, or receipt of firearms with less than 3.7 oz of metal content.
Gun-Free School Zones Act (1990): Prohibits unauthorized individuals from knowingly possessing a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (1993): Requires background checks on most firearm purchasers, depending on seller and venue.
Federal Assault Weapons Ban (1994–2004): Banned semiautomatics that looked like assault rifles and large capacity ammunition feeding devices. The law expired in 2004.

Now Democrats are outright claiming that "Hell yeah we are going to take your guns!" Be to O'Rourke and "We won't rest until we've confiscated guns' from Americans" Rep. Mondaire Jones (D-NY)

[Friendlybro79]

C-Nats

[goaded]

Have you tried saying Nat-C's out loud?

[Friendlybro79]

Nope and that went right over my head lol

[Juxtapose]

Eh man the Christian right wing has never recovered after the Bush years. They'll never be able to push Christianity like they could in the past. The GOP has to appeal to moderate leftist atheists and essentially absorb the libertarians into their party now. Gone are the days where they could try to realistically ban sex toys or mandate school prayer.

The Muslim far right is more likely to gain traction in the future than the Christian far right in the USA.

[goaded]

So, they're not getting schools to ban books, or allowing coaches to lead players in (Christian, natch) prayer, or encouraging people to hate non-binary people (one of whom just got beaten to death by some schoolgirls), or getting abortion rights that two generations grew up with removed so that they can impose a federal ban on abortions after 16 weeks? Or saying things like this:

"I just wanted to say welcome to the end of democracy! We're here to overthrow it completely.

"We didn't get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here. We'll replace it with this right here.

"Amen! That's right, because all glory, all glory is not to government, all glory to God."

They've worked out ways to attain permanent minority rule in the US, and they're getting better at making it happen. Just like Messrs Hitler and Mussolini.

[Juxtapose]

1. They don't ban books explicitly unless they are sexual. A library can only hold so many books so they pick and choose which ones to include. Far leftist authoritarians will cry when their tranny indoctrination books are not included lol 😂

2. If the kids can sit out of it it's not any more different than the pledge of allegiance.

3. Teachers are not encouraging kids to hate anybody. I went through the American school system while you didn't, they tripped over themselves to be politically correct.

4. Abortion was never supposed to be included in the constitution. Pro-choice advocates should have gotten it done federally and now they have fucked themselves because this being taken out of the Constitution as an amendment was only a matter of time.

Also 16 weeks is one hell of a long time. You should be looking into the morning after pill and whatnot once you notice something is wrong the next day, not 15 weeks later.

What a stupid comparison.

[goaded]

1. The don't ban books unless they do.
2. If. And the pledge isn't religious (apart from the 1950's addition). Still creepy, though.
3. I wasn't talking about teachers
4. What amendment? What about problems in the pregnancy that only get detected after 16 weeks?

And, no, it's not a "stupid comparison", because you literally have people talking about how maybe a dictatorship wouldn't be so bad, wanting to take the country back over 100 years, wanting to end democracy, same-sex marriage, and so on.

You want a minority to rule the country with their ideas of morality. Real Gilead stuff.

The right to contraception and to non-hetero sex are both based on the same SCOTUS decision that abortion was based on. The logical progression is to take away those rights, as well.

[Juxtapose]

1. Libraries typically don't ban books as I described but if they want to explicitly ban pornographic material that would be exposed to children? Absolutely ban that shit.

2. It absolutely is religious because you are not reciting the entire thing unless you are pledging yourself to some imaginary being. "under God".

3. Then whom?

4. 14th amendment homie. Legal scholars can tell you that trying to codify abortion via the Constitution was ham fisted at best and not a wise idea. It should have been passed as a federal law.

Yeah and I can pull up libsoftiktok and show you all kinds of crazy leftists all day. I can fault the equate your views to some of the most reprehensible people on earth but I don't. I label you an authoritarian leftist because I believe that's what you are but I do not believe you are yourself a groomer or the like. You should really see some of these people on the far left, they are just as repugnant as the most bigoted redneck on the far right.

You really don't understand American politics, do you? Gay marriage was made federally legal just like how they should have made abortion federally legal the same way. And the issue of abortion is strongly linked to bodily autonomy and I would argue more closely linked to drug laws. Same-sex marriage and whatnot is closer to laws that allow interracial marriage.

[Juxtapose]

*I can conflate your views

[goaded]

1. Who says the libraries are banning books? It's the Republican lawmakers.
2. That's the bit added in the 1950's. It should be taken out again.
3. People like you, the lawmaker in the picture, below.
4. They didn't change the amendment, they threw out a SCOTUS decision based on it; one that they all pretended they would abide by. Gay marriage, the right to contraception, and more were also based on that same interpretation.

freethoughtblogs.com/.../tom-woods-500x750

"They'll never be able to push Christianity like they could in the past."

[goaded]

"They'll never be able to push Christianity like they could in the past."

[Juxtapose]

1. The authoritarian left.

2. Agreed but it doesn't change my point.

3. That's a rude ad hominem attack. I would like you to point to a single instance where I want to ruin some non-binary person's life for no damn reason. I don't give a shit what they do in the privacy of their own home, I am a bisexual atheist dude.

4. It was a pretty shaky and bullshit interpretation. If they want to roll like that they should make a clear amendment that respects bodily autonomy and that would also get rid of drug laws. The pro-choice people fucked themselves because they were impatient and stupid.

So? You found one crock pot, congratulations. Should I show you that bitch from Somalia saying that the president of Somalia is her dear leader? If that doesn't tickle your fancy I could find Democrats being equally retarded.

[goaded]

Voting Republican will ruin some non-binary person's life for no damn reason. They're telling you that's what they want to do, when they're not already doing it. It's not like that state lawmaker is an aberration.

I'd love to show me genuine news articles where that happened, but I'm sure you can't. It wouldn't be the first time she's been attacked based on a lie.

www.theguardian.com/.../ilhan-omar-speech-somalia-mistranslation-republicans

Here's where OK State Senator Wood's comment was first reported
https://archive.is/nEaLG

[Juxtapose]

Dude you are acting like I live in bum fuck Bible belt. I live in a purple state and previously I lived in a blue state, in the blue state moderate Republicans were pretty common. You can't paint America with so wide of a brush because it is literally bigger than fucking Europe. Not North America, just America.

Clinton is a sociopathic murderer who is a prime agent of the deep state. She has openly said she has a private position and a public position. She is a classic, Machiavellian sociopath politician. Her and Mitt Romney fit together like two peas in a pod. She's essentially a Dick Cheney just waiting to murder millions.

[goaded]

Common, are they? How many of them voted not to accept the results of at least one state in 2020? 139 - more than half.

How many voted against impeaching Mayorkas, just because he'd done nothing wrong? Four.

Rep. Tom McClintock (CA-05)
Rep. Ken Buck (CO-04)
Rep. Mike Gallagher (WI-08)
Rep. Blake Moore (UT-01)

Clinton's been out of the spotlight for six or seven years, now. Her husband even longer. What are you talking (lying) about her for?

[Juxtapose]

Don't you find the disappearance of people messing with the Clintons to be the least bit suspicious? It's like that guy that was messing with Putin and then he's mysteriously dead xD

The 2020 was absolutely fucking rigged. There is no way Joe Biden got more votes than Obama and also got more black votes than Obama when he didn't even have half of the turnout in his public events. No. Fucking. Way.

Also pulling stations kicking out watch dogs and whatnot because of mysterious pipes bursting and other such flimsy excuses. Along with electronic voting being so unreliable, the election should have been done all over.

Same day voting, no electronics involved and no kicking out watch dogs even if the building is going to explode.

[Juxtapose]

And of course no mail in ballots and no ballot harvesting.

[Juxtapose]

Voter ID of course absolutely required.

[goaded]

Argument from incredulity. Could it be that people noticed that their country and its democracy was under attack and turned out to vote? Maybe they noticed that the incumbent had let hundreds of thousands of their friends and family die needlessly? That he hadn't a clue how to deal with actual problems and was just interested in PR and power?

[Juxtapose]

It's not just an argument from incredibility, the elections were genuinely unsecure. And if you really believe a segregationist can get more black votes than Barack Obama then you are high off of your mind.

[Juxtapose]

I live in America, I saw the reception those two men got and it was completely different.

[goaded]

Of course it was completely different. There was a pandemic going on, and Biden isn't the most inspirational speaker. But he can get things done, like getting Republicans to stand up and cheer for Medicare, actually pass an infrastructure bill, help out people in debt that have been trying to pay it off for years, bring manufacturing back to the US...

Trump's all mouth, no trousers.

[Juxtapose]

That's a load of bullshit. Under Trump America was doing well and now we see the results of Bidenomics.

[goaded]

Two years of sub-4% unemployment, record stock markets, median wage improving above the rate of inflation which has come down to normal levels again... I really want to find the cartoon I saw where Biden lists his accomplishments and the GOP elephant beside him says something like "Hah! He forgot the 14 million jobs created because his memory's shot!".

By the way: ""We are a Republican state – supermajority – in the House and Senate. I represent a constituency that doesn't want that filth in Oklahoma," Woods said, according to the newspaper account.

"We are a religious state and we are going to fight it to keep that filth out of the state of Oklahoma because we are a Christian state – we are a moral state," Woods added."

Utterly powerless, the religious right.

[Juxtapose]

Yep, they are powerless. It's so bad now the authoritarian left is literally changing science to ideology.

The jobs were restored after covid. No net gains were met whatsoever under Biden, he has been a 100% failure in every metric.

[goaded]

"Payroll employment rises by 353,000 in January; unemployment rate remains at 3.7% "
"Real average hourly earnings for all employees increase 0.3% in January "
"Real average weekly earnings up 0.5 percent from November 2022 to November 2023"
https://www.bls.gov/ces/

The pandemic jobs were restored by the beginning of 2022, since then Biden job creation numbers have crushed Trump's from 2019.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

[Juxtapose]

"BIDENOMICS BY THE NUMBERS:
Inflation is a tax on ALL Americans.
Bidenomics is costing Americans an additional $11,434 a year, according to a recent analysis of government data.
Americans are paying more for just about everything because of inflation.
Frozen noncarbonated juices and drinks are UP 22.1%
Motor vehicle insurance is UP 19.2%
Frozen vegetables are UP 10.7%
Uncooked beef steaks are UP 10.6%
Transportation services are UP 9.2%
Sugar and sugar substitutes are UP 8.8%
Baby food and formula are UP 8.3%
Frozen fruits and vegetables are UP 8.0%
Sauces and gravies are UP 7.5%
Rent of primary residence is UP 7.2%
Uncooked turkey is UP 7.2%
White bread is UP 7.1%
Shelter is UP 6.7%
Crackers are UP 6.0%
Rolls are UP 5.7%
Food away from home is UP 5.4%
Flour is UP 3.2%
Frozen pies are UP 2.7%
When Joe Biden took office, inflation was at just 1.4%.
Prices have risen by 17.1% since Biden took office.
According to a recent WSJ/NORC poll only 36% of voters said the American dream still holds true, substantially fewer than the 53% who said so in 2012 and 48% in 2016.
In October, total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 150,000, falling well short of the 189,000 economists expected.
The unemployment rate increased to 3.9%
6.5 million Americans remain unemployed.
Manufacturing LOST 35,000 jobs.
Transportation and warehousing LOST 12,000 jobs.
Information employment LOST 9,000 jobs.
Motion picture and sound recording LOST 5,000 jobs."

[Juxtapose]

www.gop.gov/.../documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=665

[Juxtapose]

www.google.com/.../

[handsomelad70]

What moustachioed madman would have approved?

[Juxtapose]

www.google.com/.../

[goaded]

@Juxtapose Weren't you just complaining about how CNN is supposedly biased? Now you're linking the NY Post and the GOP website. Some of those numbers are hilarious, though.

[Juxtapose]

CNN is among the worst along with Fox and MSNBC. I can't count on them.. for much of anything. Pure propaganda outlet.

The inflation is absurd and I have real life experience with Biden's economy. It sucks.

[BonzoInBitburg]

Your bio says you're from Germany. Why the hell do you care about US law? Do you think any of us outside of your country care about the current state of German politics? You should mind your own business

[goaded]

Ain't ad hominem wonderful!

[DryGermanGuy]

@goaded
It's the rednecks' standard reaction to knowledge, foreign work/travel experience and broadening one's horizon. They know nothing about us, so we have to know nothing about them.

[BonzoInBitburg]

My grandparents on both side were Prussian. Came here 100 years ago. I'm not a mere German like you. We brought the wealth so you knuckle draggers could try to fight the entire world twice

[goaded]

My bio doesn't say I'm German.

[OddBeMe]

I think ChristNats. Makes it more insectoid.

Im just waiting for Christian’s to say sperm is life. So many masturbating aholes will found a whole new religion.

[Dargil]

Nope. Patriots who are Christians and have LOTS OF GUNZZZZZ

[goaded]

So did the Nazis.

[Dargil]

Which means what, exactly?

[goaded]

It means the Nazis thought they were patriots and had lots of guns.

[Dargil]

So did out patriots. So did the Brits. So are the Japanese. So are...

[Drewtate]

Nazis were atheists. Liberals approve of pedophiles

[goaded]

Do you really want me to list US church leaders convicted of paedophilia? It might take a while to compile a complete list.

[Drewtate]

Nambla as part of the lgbtq?

[handsomelad70]

Works for this ol' boy.

[goaded]

As far as I know, they're not, and aren't you supposed to be defenders of free speech?

Oh, and by the way...
en.wikipedia.org/.../...UNS_Buckle_(Wehrmacht).jpg

[goaded]

Here are 700 from the Southern Baptists... sbcec.s3.amazonaws.com/...users+-+SBC+REDACTED.pdf

[goaded]

"confessed to sexually molesting a 6-yr-old girl and her 4-yr-old sister and committed acts of child pornography"

[Drewtate]

Southern Baptist obviously part of the lgbtq

[goaded]

Ah, so when you say "lgbtq" you mean "people @Drewtate doesn't approve of".

Gott mit Uns.

[Drewtate]

Gott mit Uns. A very famous Swedish battle cry.
LgbtqP.

[handsomelad70]

Then why are most pedophiles REPIGLIKSWINE?

[Drewtate]

@handsomelad70 like Bill Clinton on epstein's peado paradise. Or Harvey weinstein? Or basically all of peado Hollywood?

[handsomelad70]

Like until Mar.31, goaded.

[handsomelad70]

Book banning and in some cases, burning. How 1930's Germany.

[gorydetails]

Is this the new shitlib word of the day? Got tired of racist and nazi? You clowns are nothing but predictable.

[goaded]

You're all three. And you know it.

[gorydetails]

Remember, those words are irrelevant. You morons call math racist. Hilarious some idiot gets on MSNBC calls people who think rights come from God are “Christian Nationalists” and you NPC’s immediately start repeating it. Clown.

[OtterMan68]

I prefer Christian Taliban

[Still-alive]

Perfect heh

[Still-alive]

Look at how triggered they are on your post lol 😂