Do you fat-shame people? Why does society insist on making fat people hate themselves?

[Hawkes_Lady]

Fat is not lazy (skinny people can be lazy too).
Fat is not unhealthy (skinny people can be unhealthy too).
Fat is not ugly (skinny people can be ugly too and ugly is subjective, anyway).
Fat is not evil (skinny people can be evil too).
Fat is not slow (skinny people can be slow too).

It’s almost like people are just people regardless of the size or shape of their bodies.
Regardless of the shape or health of a body, the person inside is a human being…
with feelings and dreams and hopes and aspirations who deserve to be treated with respect.

What do we gain as a society by making fat people feel bad about themselves? Nothing. We gain nothing.

So again, I ask... why does society insist on making fat people hate themselves? It’s infuriating and useless.

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11 d

This woman says it better than I ever could.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/346193468320441

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10 d

Do you really believe that a fat person doesn't already know that they are fat?

I mean seriously, a fat person wakes up every morning hating themselves for what we look like and that we don't look like everyone else. Although, statistically speaking right now, about 3.12 billion people (39% of the global population) have obesity.

If a fat person is eating a slice of pizza we get told, "Oh my god, can't you eat something healthier? Don't you have any self-respect?"

[Flatmanlewis]

No. I don’t fat shame people. It’s not my place or business to try and influence them or their choices. We each have to find our own way.


Do I treat them differently? Yeah, probably. I would be less likely to select one for a team I was working with or to be the face of my organization. I don’t have as much respect for someone who doesn’t have self-respect and personal pride enough to just let themselves go. I would TREAT them with respect but I would not have much respect for them overall.


Would I date or chose to be romantically involved? No. I would not. I have particular tastes in what I find attractive in a woman and that’s not my thing. Plus, since the point of dating is to find a relationship I would want my future children to be raised in an environment where they were lied to and told obesity is acceptable for them.


Truth be told I’ve known some really good fat people in my life but it can be very hard to maintain those friendships when I want to go hiking, to the beach, backpacking, and other activities that they cannot manage.


Society will never get to a point where obesity will find the full acceptance the obese crave. Regardless of the Target mannequins, diversity models on advertisements, or HR consequences for saying something rude (which by all rights should be addressed - being a jerk is not okay) the hard wired human trait is to seek out attractive men & women. Women, in particular, have to contend with their looks being a large measure of their perceived worth and that’s never going to change.

[Fxjjxhhccbgcfccc]

You say it's a hard-wired human trait to seek out attractive men and women and that society will never get to a point to accept being fat, yet beauty standards change all the time. Nowadays the beauty standard for women is being as thin as possible but in the past, during different historical eras, carrying a bit of extra fat (not being obese or extremely overweight) was considered as more attractive than being skinny. Who's to say it might not change again in the future? Also, you're entitled to your own preferences and it's your business who you're attracted to, but if you choose people to work in your team, based on their looks and not their workplace skills, that's a form of discrimination and it's short-mined to judge someone's intelligence and personality by their looks

[Flatmanlewis]

I respect your opinion. It’s well thought out and articulate. Unfortunately, my organization is very demanding physically and your overall fitness is a absolute direct connection to your ability to do the job. Sure, you can probably do 90% of the work in a substandard level of fitness but that 10% is frequent enough, and hard enough, that as a leader I cannot fairly subject my team to picking up the slack and asking them yo absorb that extra 10%. Merit trumps equity in my mind.

[Billlewis]

It would be impossible for me to even try to make anyone feel bad about being fat, because the term 'fat' is a synonym for 'sexy'.

[Hawkes_Lady]

@Billlewis This is one of the few dignified and polite responses to this question that is without even a hint of fat-shaming. I am very happy with my sissy boy for his response and permit him to kiss all of my sexy fat parts!

[Billlewis]

Oh my God...

[Insecure2]

This is a difficult issue. Modern society believes that being obese is unhealthy and having had the image of a skinny supermodel or celebrity as the ideal also had an impact on the view of ideal beauty. Additionally, people often exagerate when IT comes to weight, for example if a woman 170cm tall says she weights 63kg she will often hear she is fat when in reality most doctors would say her weight is perfectly normal. As for the other matters you are right, even a slim person can be lazy or have a bad character, but because some don't like overweight people they just pin those traits to those WHO they perceive as 'worse'. It's simply a question of a lack of tolerance or ignorance as they often do not accept that genetics makes some more prone to gaining kilograms than others or that obesity can be a symptom of an illness like diabetes, which makes IT difficult to actually lose weight.

[milknhoneyy]

Fun fact: I was literally healthier when I was fat.

Ultimately (and this goes for anything), you have to let go of the idea that being respected by society at large is either important or feasible, because it is neither, and holding onto it does not benefit you at all. People suck and they will always suck, unfortunately. The only thing that matters is your health (both mental and physical).

[milknhoneyy]

ETA: I lost the weight, *but* I can't stress enough that I did that for myself and not anyone else. Especially not people who mistreated me. I experienced some health consequences that resulted from how much I lost in a short amount of time (roughly 70 pounds in 6 months), but I don't regret the weight loss itself and I did have the outcomes I wanted too (less pressure on my joints, more energy, etc). I would do it slower if I could do it over again, though.

[Sirenboobzilla]

I don't. I stroke l struggled gaining weight as a kid and learned how things like hormonal imbalances can wreak havoc on all sides of that spectrum.

I've been skinny all my life. I had to put on weight and muscle to play volleyball in high-school. I stopped playing after graduating but maintained some of that taking. Dropped some mass and just found my happy place.

That all said, if you ever pay attention to strongman competitions, the women who participate are not small like me... they're BIG girls. Visually they look obese. But they could throw me across a room like a ragdoll

[Finchie40]

Not at all , it’s their life and their choice , if they were unhappy about being overweight? it would be their choice to try to lose weight , if they are happy being over weight that’again is their choice and their decision. I don’t body sham anyone , I feel it’s disrespectful period because we truly don’t know what someone els’s life is like , they could have a medical disease that is making then overweight , so yes I agree with you that weight has nothing to do with health , it’s all a money making scheme to brainwash people into believing they need to look a certain way to be accepted , not true at all and you are right weight has nothing to do with health period. I knew people that worked out every day , watched what they ate and they still dropped dead at a young age , so again weight has nothing to do with health ,

[D4nielv]

I don't mean to hate on fat people at all, but I feel like the arguments you represent completely miss the point. Regarding health, being overweight can have serious and well-researched health implications by itself, and is completely unrelated to the fact that skinny people can be unhealthy as well. And I'm sure that if you compare the average fat and skinny person, the fat people are slower.

Additionally, even mentioning things like "evil" (I have no idea how being fat even relates to being evil) just makes it feel like this entire post is some kind of trauma response. I have nothing against fat people, but I feel like this post does more to discredit them than help them.

[MadhuriDixit]

It's better to tell obese people that they'll have serious health problems if they don't cut down.. than to sugar coat them and make them think it's ok to be obese and unhealthy

" Skinny people can be unhealthy too" .. not a good excuse

[IslaTheWitch]

I don't judge, don't shame, just base on facts

being overweight is a health risk. Being obese is risking life

shaming is not a solution and brings only harm not help; education should be provided

[IslaTheWitch]

@Hawkes_Lady I was morbidly obese. The reason was very easy - poor motions management. I ate sugar to feel better.

But one day, when my liver test results were worse than awful, I simply did a simple math. Really simple - what I gain being fat and what I lose...

In a year, I lost over 130 lbs.

I could stay fat and whine how world is wrong against me when I do nothing wrong. But I chose to do something. We always regret actions we didn't make

[Hawkes_Lady]

I'm truly glad to see you embracing what's best for your well-being, whether that's losing weight or any other positive changes. Everyone deserves to pursue a fulfilling and healthy life, especially when faced with health challenges.

It's disheartening that some people are quick to overlook the capabilities and talents of individuals simply because of their weight. It's a flawed perspective that diminishes the richness of human potential.

The double standard of skinny vs. fat (obese) is glaring. On one hand, overweight individuals may face criticism for not exercising, yet when they do make an effort to improve their health, they're often met with scrutiny and discrimination. This hypocrisy underscores the need for greater compassion and understanding in our society.

Trust me when I say, every fat person knows they are fat. We are fully aware of it. It is not compassion, fear for our health, or even for educational purposes that you (the general public) feel the need to say something, it is to feel superior over what you find disgusting and abhorrent.

No one should be defined solely by their weight. Every individual is a complex tapestry of skills, talents, and experiences that deserve recognition and respect. It's time to shift the focus from appearance to the substance of a person's character and capabilities.

[Anonymous]

I think most people, who answered this question are hypocrites.. Since when do they care so much about people's health and whether they're unhealthy or not? Unless it's a family member or a friend. It's all about looks and nothing else.. Please just say it out loud. To answer your question society fat-shames fat people, because it's extremely superficial and lacks empathy about others. Also, because internalized biases and stereotypes about certain body types and conditioning.

[jahaims]

Being fat is factually unhealthy. You are delusional. You also don't understand basic logic and reasoning. Just because a skinny person can be unhealthy doesn't negate the that being fat is unhealthy. Fat shaming is as bad as it is because of crazy people like you making claims based on feelings and not facts. What you do to cope doesn't change reality.

[jahaims]

the fact that*

[Harris2294]

Society is useless. Fat or Slim its just a body type. Like a fat tree and thin tree. both have leaves and fruits.

[jahaims]

Except a fat tree doesn't die younger because it isn't healthy, lol.

[JacobJordan]

Have you ever seen a fat person run a mile without pause? Hell have you seen a fat person climb a damn staircase? They just about pass out getting to the halfway point. Fat is factually unhealthy if it wasn't it wouldn't be called fat...

[David94358]

it depends on how fat we are talking, you can be overweight a little and still be perfectly healthy, but being massively obese is a death sentence and should never be celebrated

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I don’t think Fat is lazy, but Fat is definitely unhealthy.

[Hawkes_Lady]

I know some very morbidly obese people and their blood work would disagree with you. Just because you are a heavy, and I mean very heavy person, doesn't mean that you're unhealthy medically speaking.

[handsomelad70]

As I tell people.

[Samantha_Stevenson]

Then you better don't blame people either when they prefer a skinny person over a fatso 😂

[MasterKS]

No i dont shame anyone! Everyone is unique in its own. The most important is be healthy.

[handsomelad70]

No, because EVERY human has intrinsic worth.(Which doesn't mean I'd date a fat broad. though.)

[Anonymous]

Tell the fat lard asses that they look good and are real sexy, bull shit them, This is much better than telling them the truth.

[exitseven]

No because I used to be one.

[DrPepper12]

Not anymore. I used to thonk it not say it.

[gorydetails]

Fat shaming works to help fat people get thin.

[RedInnocent69]

No. That’s mean.

[Anonymous]

Would you rather be fat or fit?