It’s estimated that between 6.5-15% are rapists, and the vast majority of these men never see prison time.
I guess there is a presumption that more women who say they have been rated are telling the truth. So it generates the numbers and percentages that can be talked about.
The rapist however... none of them are going to be walking around talking about it. And of the amount accused, how many are proven true and how many claim innocence? So there is no reliable figures to talk about.
By all means talk about rapists in general. But it's a very murky area. a lot of men will also say there is not a clear definition of what rape even means. Most sensible men will back off a woman at any hint of indecisiveness for this reason. Rather than later have her claim rape.
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+1 yRape is bad because rape has victims, the dependent variable in the crime is the rapist, the independent variable that qualifies the crime as a crime is the victim. Without victims, the rape would not exist. That is why people monitor crimes by protecting the victim, and not by quantifying or tabulating the offender.
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6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because rapists are innocent until proven guilty and it often takes a lot of effort from prosecutors to prove rape occured beyond a reasonable doubt. To a jury, the woman simply saying she did not consent can be of no more weight than the man simply saying that she did. There has to be physical evidence and sadly due to the mechanics of rape you can't really tell the difference after the fact unless there are cameras.
So, we tend to settle for comforting the victims. And for some reason telling people they are not alone is our goto attempt to comfort people.27 Reply- +1 y
Judges dont decide cases. Juries are instructed to believe anyone under oath (yes, women, but also men) unless they can be proven unreliable through cross examination and to always err on the side of assuming innocence where it could be reasonably assumed. If two people under oath give conflicting testimonies and there is no question of either of their characters, the jury must err on the side of not guilty.
However, it is also the case that most rapists are going to be garbage people overall so showing they are unreliable to a jury may not be as daunting of a task as it sounds. It just takes time and money, which prosecutors don't have. Moreover, it is every Americans right that defense lawyers also have that time. And bluntly there just aren't enough lawyers for the criminal courts. They all want civil cases because that's where the money is at. - +1 y
@MK1997 That’s not true. Why do you think rape kits exist? Plus judges aren’t the only people who decide cases, it’s the jury
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@MK1997 you just referred to him at “the rapist”. You seem pretty biased as well
+1 yYour source is a blog post by someone who compiled a bunch of cherry picked statistics from studies designed to support a predetermined outcome to push a social agenda. How about we stick with valid and reliable sources. According to the FBI, as of 2022 the percentage of women who get raped is a small fraction of 1%.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191226/reported-forcible-rape-rate-in-the-us-since-1990/
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1. That’s forcible rape
2. The majority of rape is never reported - +1 y
1. Is there another kind?
2. This sounds like "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" bullshit that got us into the Iraq war. - +1 y
@DextroShade 1. Yes. Most rape isn’t the crazy violent ally attacks people think of. Most rape is coercive, from partners or family members
2. There is evidence. Studies show most rapes are never reported - +1 y
Define "coercive" rape.
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@DextroShade rape in which someone is coerced into inconsensual sex
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Define "coerced" - +1 y
@DextroShade people saying I'm going go have sex withypu repeatedly in an enclosed space with you despite you saying no. You have made it clear you don't want it, but to avoid them beating you up an doing it anyway you let them.
Also, my sister has been raped 3-4 times and reported 1. - +1 y
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@DextroShade brah let's define it like that... 10% of men would continue to fuck a woman even whilst knowing it causes terrible physical, mental, or spiritual pain and trauma.
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@DextroShade That's what coercion is. The person is convinced to do something that they don't want to because they fear the consequences of what will happen without acquiesecence.
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1.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well, you're right...'Cakes' and here I am still running loose !
Serious note: I just wrote a short story and sent to a 'friend' on GAG regarding this subject, a rape/sodomy, regarding a married woman with children, describing the rape and sodomy in detail (as you know, most or many rapes do involve sodomy and oral assault as well) I described the aftermath, of the assault, what the victim suffers with, and the additional 'insult added to injury" when reporting it.
Long story short: Many women do not want to suffer the humiliation of going to court and describing what was done to her during the assault. Lady Gaga was raped by her 'sound technician" ... but blamed herself for her mode of dress (very sad to hear that)
That is probably why many sex criminals never see prison time... because women are afraid to come forward.
10 ReplyWhy do we always talk about committed crimes and not people who are likely to commit crimes?
Let's put it like this: I'd rather have a society of angels who rape occasionally than a society of devils who rape very infrequently.
Because if it's in their DNA, then their children will be rapists. And since they are rapists they are guaranteed to get women pregnant and survive. Whereas genetically pure ones shouldn't be punished just for some slip ups, because we need more genetically pure people on this world.
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Because it's easier to figure out approximately how many women have *been* raped based on convictions. Whereas it isn't as easy knowing how many men *will* rape because we can't predict the future, especially not based on an arbitrary estimation. Also, 6.5-15%? Strange number. It would be on the higher end if you're in a more diverse area, too.
The reason why the "vast majority" of "these men" don't see prison time is because you can't put people in prison based on the *assumption* that they could be rapists. Especially not if it's an assumption based on, like I said, an arbitrary estimation.
10 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Why don't more people talk about how there are more WOMEN child abusers in schools than men and how for the exact same crime they serve SIGNIFICANTLY less jail time?
Why don't people talk about how many women are actually rapists since men under the influence of alcohol can't give consent, so every woman that had sex with a man they met in a club/bar that was drinking is actually a rapist? With that standard, many more than 15% of women are rapists.
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The women abusing children is bad and unjust, but drunken consent is still consent as long as the person still has the ability to say yes or no and revoke consent. 15% are definitely not rapists
1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Know what we need to do is talk to the women about being stronger and going to the police and pressing charges on these guys because 97 95% out of 100 do not press charges I understand the reasoning behind it to a point but come on put these fuckers in jail and I do apologize if there's any women that read my answer I'm not downplaying you I just wish that you would do the right thing and put these fuckers in jail
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+1 yI am just curious, how can someone say a staggering percent (15%) men are rapists and don't you think if they didn't get prison time it's either because they are innocent or the woman didn't report?
If a woman who got raped reports it, what exactly prevents the Rapist from being behind bars?
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You obviously don’t know how the legal system works - +1 y
@crabcakes11 Well... What I do know is that nobody will believe a man, so if I as much as get accused of rape, even if the accusation is obviously false, mu best bet would be to catch the first flight to a country with no extradition agreement with whichever "Western" country the accusation was made in. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that women don't report actual rapists, but resort to ruining the lives of regular men with false accusations.
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my* best bet
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How long will you try hard to be a Victim?
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He is right @The_Sexpert
1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. What's your source for that figure?
Roughly 8 billion humans, so roughly 4 billion of each gender.
15% of 4,000,000,000 individuals is a very large number.
I've counselled rape survivors. It's never an easy thing to hear someone talk about, men or women.01 Reply2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. How is that estimated? It needs a definition of rape. Germane Greer and others have talked of husbands raping their wives by pestering them into sex when they would have rather not.
Somewhat different to a guy grabbing a girl off the street and pulling her into a car.
We need to use words with very specific meanings. Abuse, for example, could be knee capping with a baseball bat down to ignoring what your partner has just said. Same word but very different levels.
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+1 yLet's talk demographics... Black, Hispanic, Indian (good luck finding those numbers), Asian, and White... I wonder who does the most and least per capita and in their own respective countries.
Also we are constantly told men are trash, are all creepy, and only want one thing (sex).
Why is it people always talk about rape from the Catholic Church (an extremely small amount) and never the amount of rape that takes place within the US Public School systems?
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I think we should talk about rape and sexual assault in all places, including when female teachers molest boys
Don’t you think feminism has reached not advanced to an extent that they do not talk about the latter? I think you know that we are living in a world with aggressive feminism.
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What? Can you phrase this in a grammatically correct way
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Good comment
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I wasn't going to really say anything till I saw this comment.
Is aggressive feminism really as bad as rape or that most rapes go unpunished?
And don't start labeling me anything for pointing that out and asking why the topic of feminism is being brought up in a question about a bigger issue.
The 4-16% of college men admitting to rape statistic is real.
jimhopper.com/.../
It's not wrong to talk about facts. And it doesn't mean we are generalizing all men. - +1 y
And also for your kind information this aggressive feminism also brands several innocent people as sex offenders. So to answer your question it’s as bad and horrendous as rape. If you don’t believe me then ask someone who have been falsely tagged as abusers and what they are going through. There are always two sides to a coin.
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@nayans Very good points made
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A man is more likely to be raped than to be accused of rape. The vast majority of rape reports are true.
1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It's almost never talked about. I was reading a article about how 30-40% of men on college campuses have admitted to rape. I was shocked cuz no one is ever talking about it especially that high of a number
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I think the 30% number you’re thinking of the amount of men who admitted they would rape someone if they had the chance
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No, I just read that, it’s men who admitted to raping someone if the opportunity presents itself
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+1 yIt's a less sympathetic problem, right? If you talk about how many women report being raped/sexually assaulted, that's a much larger number than the number of men who admit to being too aggressive with women.
10 Reply 897 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think it depends on where you´re coming from what kind of social environment you come from. Since I would say in a progressive, liberal environment it´s more talked about than in a conservative one.
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+1 yAccording to RAINN, about 3% of American men, or 1 in 33, have experienced rape or attempted rape in their lifetime. Still too high. And probably underreported.
The penalty for forcible rape should be death.11 Reply- +1 y
Non forcible rape still causes trauma
A better question would be: Feminists have been spouting this one in five statistic for decades now. If the number hasn't changed, doesn't that prove how ineffective Feminism is?
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+1 yThat number is 100% bullshit and probably counts guys who hooked up with girl who had been drinking as "rapists". You are just a bitter, man-hating feminist who will die alone and be eaten by her cats.
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Not tryna get into a fight, but what statistic are you talking about when you mean the 100%?
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@wiltingrosepetal the statistic is meaningless because they broadened the definition of "rape" to included hooking up after drinking.
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Ohhhh right, yeah I understand. I guess it depends on what the research counted as rape, right? Since it's a notoriously difficult crime to classify or take to court. Regretful sex and rape definitely aren't the same
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@wiltingrosepetal tell that to feminists
6.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Date rape? I could believe that. Kavenaugh and his high school buddies are probably in that group. We know Trump is.
10 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I mean you can only find a rapist from their victims so it has to be that way?
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+1 yBack spouting gibberish from your gender studies class I see.
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1. I’ve never took gender studies
2. Just because you don’t like time doesn’t make it false
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To answer your question, feminist believe "all men are rapists".
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No we dont. I specifically said 6.5-15% of men are rapists
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+1 yBecause it's hard to prove the count of rapists given most are serial offenders but remember the only cure is elimination
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+1 yThey never gonna run away from God. On the other hand, I actually suggest sentencing death for these devils.
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+1 yWhat a redundant question, and we should we feminist.
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+1 yWhat exactly do you imply that would achieve?
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The same think talking about the amount of rape victims there are would achieve
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I didn't quite understand that sentence there.
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It achieves the same thing as acknowledging how many people have been raped
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Ah.
So, it's a wholly inconsequential thing to do.
+1 yI don't think it's as high as 15%. Maybe 3%.
10 ReplyI wonder where you get your stats from
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Ok then find a more reliable one
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+1 yI feel like we people talk about that a lot
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