Arlington National Cemetery officials warned the Trump campaign prior to their visit not to take photos as use of the cemetery for campaign purposes is prohibited.
Trump later released video of his visit on Truth social.
by the way, 65 soldiers died in Afghanistan when Trump was president, but he only "honored" those killed when Biden finally ended the war. Hmmmm.
As a retired veteran I respect all our fallen heroes. I do not respect draft dodgers denigrating the service of those heroes by using the photos and videos for political purposes, which is clearly against the rules at Arlington. But when has Trump ever followed the rules?
I made my views clear under the opinion of another user, who then accused me of being a member of the PLA and that I am CCP. Then the coward blocked any response from me. Why are such idiots allowed on here?
u So horrible that a politician would use such sacred ground as a photo op...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/w5jZyq1JR1o are those campaign photos?
Does it matter?
yes because campaign photos are Arlington are not allowed
So if a politician takes a photo somewhere, it's... automatically a campaign photo? Those God Star families asked Trump to come. They invited him. They wanted him there. So "no campaign photos allowed" was without a doubt SOMETHING that would have been brought up.
Watch the video I attached to my original post. At 4:03, there's a photo of Joe Biden at the grave of a fallen soldier. And it was featured in (drumroll please) in a campaign ad. At the very end. Right before it says "Joe for President, text 'Joe' to this number". So was that a campaign photo op?
Was Trump performing an official duty? Did he himself post the photos on his social media account?
It's the casual thumbs up nature thats the real issue. A solemn dignified photo perhaps in pray or laying a wreath would be acceptable.
As for the rules I'm sure they must have some area or monument set aside for photos. But this is Trump demonstrating his immunity.
I will never understand the mind of a liberal. Biden left women and children behind in Afghanistan that were Americans. The left didn't give a shit about that. But now they care about this ceremony?
Sixty five soldiers died in Afghanistan under Trump. Why didn't he pay respects to them?
I don’t know if he did or didn’t so I can’t comment on that. I just think it’s pretty petty that Kamala criticizes Trump for something the Goldstar families wanted.
He didn't ask the family of the fallen soldier whose tombstone was included in the photo. They said he did not have their permission. Also, he violated Arlington Nat Cemetery policy, or do you think Trump is above the law?
Obviously Trump's not above the law the justice department is all about putting him in jail. Biden is above the law.
why didn't Trump bring the troops home in 2017? Could have saved dozens of lives
but you think he's above the rules and regulations of Arlington Nat Cemetery
Yes, Biden, Hillary, and Trump are all above the law. And sore all the illegal aliens.
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I'd say you've got a SEVERE case of TDS!! You REALLY need to get yourself SEVERAL cases of this!!
That is NOT what happened!! All he did was what any REAL President SHOULD'VE done!! But, Joey was just TOO BUSY lounging around on a beach with his live-in nurse, Jill, to be bothered to honour ANY of those whose DEATHS HE CAUSED!!
"Well, Jill, I can look at my watch just as easily on the beach as I can at that service so, I'm not going."
By the way, those 65 that possibly died under Trump died fighting a war! Those 13 that Joe killed were BECAUSE of his MORONIC decisions in the pull-out after TRUMP ended the war!! Hmmmmm.
When the caskets were unloaded in Dover, Joey checked his watch 13 times. He didn't give a shit about the fallen soldiers. The gold star families invited Trump to pay his respects and he did. You would have to be pretty warped to think that was a bad thing.
@Guacamole409 OR a photo op for a campaign!! At least Don had the balls to step up and do what Joey SHOULD'VE done WITHOUT being invited!! He would've had to leave his watch at the door, though!
Where was Scamala? Was she on vacation, too? It was probably a good thing she DIDN''T show up, she would've probably spent the whole time cackling and campaigning like the low class piece of shit she is!!
Joe and Kamala only care about themselves.
@Guacamole409 That's it!!
As I understand it, he was invited by the families to be there. Also, a former guard was in attendance at the cemetery who attended over 500 funerals there said it was a very respectful group and the President was invited by family members, nothing to it but flak thrown up by Democrats who want to tarnish Trump with veterans… it simply won’t work as we know they are LIARS.
For a different point of view, read for yourself:
You understand, right?, that Fox had to pay $787,000,000 to Dominion Voting Systems because they are liars... and had to admit that they lied.
So, don't ever bother using Fox as a source trying to prove your point. Over 3/4 of billion dollars worth of lying doesn't make one seem like a paragon of honesty and truthful reporting.
@abc3643 frig you. Is that all you got…. but, but, but foxnews? Your sources suck as well, it is all lies today so just stuff it. MSNBC won’t report what the former guard said nor what the families actually say. They push the story as Harris points a finger at Trump… that’s all they have.
Here, this is from NYPost. You can see the family says back to Harris, your Administration killed my son!!! That is the importantly part, not what F’ing Harris has to say to make this political you ass.
nypost.com/.../
@abc3643 If they said it, they said it. I get you don’t like them but the families have been open about this. Perhaps you should consider what sources you do like and what they leave out. Leaving key information out is lying by omission.
I find reading many different news sites the best way to get to the truth and the whole truth.
I do read CNN, MSNBC, NBCnews, CBSnews, ABCnews, BBCnews, Le Monde from France, multiple other UK news sites, Irish Times, India Express, Times of India, Japan Times, RT from Russia, South China Morning Post, DW from Germany, Aljazerra, Reuters, Associated Press, Australia ABC News, Australia BBC, OAN, and FOXnews.
I would have missed what the families said and what the former Presidential Honor Guard member. If you want to get to the truth today, it takes some digging. I have all of the links saved and check each them frequently/daily/certainly every few days at the most. Many of them I check multiple times a day.
I am not discussing Trump. I am discussing Fox as a reliable source when trying to convince people of something. Because Fox News is it self-admitted documented liar who so far owes about $800 million and may owe much more to others who are suing Fox for defamation, it is not a reliable authority or source for information when arguing or persuading.
@abc3643 and I thought I was clear that in today’s environment people must get news from all sources to puzzle piece the truth. Fox was the first and only for a day to report what the families said. That is important. Your news sources did not and have NOT reported this.
NY Post corroborated it. So there is your second source. Will I stop using Fox because you have an autistic-like preoccupation with Fox? No. They all lie, including your sources that omit information, tell halve truths and even flat out lie. Grow up.
The New York Post didn't corroborate anything since they, like Fox, are owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Anyway, yes, multiple sources should be used although one should check to see what the ultimate source is; that's part of doing due diligence.
For instance, suppose 3 newspapers independently all report the same thing. You'd think that settles it... except it doesn't if they all use the same "wire service" like AP or UPI. So, you'd like independent news sources to report like AP, UPI, Reuters, NYT, WSJ, etc.
Also, once should check the bias and factual reporting of a new source of information by using a media fact check site.
I use MediaBiasFactCheck. com
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/
and AllSides
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias
(more)
For example, here are the MBFC reports for the NYT and Fox News.
NYT
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-times/
Overall, we rate the New York Times Left-Center biased based on wording and story selection that moderately favors the left. They are considered one of the most reliable sources for news information due to proper sourcing and well-respected journalists/editors. The failed fact checks were on Op-Eds and not straight news reporting.
And here is Fox News.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/
Overall, we rate Fox News right biased based on editorial positions that align with the right and Questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, conspiracy theories, pseudoscience, the use of poor sources, and numerous false claims and failed fact checks. Straight news reporting from beat reporters is generally fact-based and accurate, which earns them a Mixed factual rating.
And the New York Post.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/
Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks.
One final one: Reuters, the British news service
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/reuters/
Overall, we rate Reuters Least Biased based on objective reporting and Very High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing of information with minimal bias and a clean fact check record.
Sometimes, people here will use a new source - one that I have not heard of - so I do a check at MBFC and AllSides to assess its factual trustworthiness and bias.
Back to due diligence, often a source is really just reporting from another source - like government statistics. So, I go to the ultimate source in that case: the government website. Similar with other ultimate sources.
@abc3643 Your media bias fact-check is very very likely biased as well. You just don’t get it. Just like Snoops is biased. You think your site is credible? I sincerely doubt it as I know many of the liberal news sites are slanted at the least. I have tracked actual interviews and then read the summary on these sites… they are full of lies, half truths, misrepresentations more.
But here, here is a liberal POS news site that you might find credible, NYT. It repeats the opposite of what the witnesses there said which is there was no altercation about the photographs. But they state it as if there indisputably was an altercation. You must be on the spectrum. The fact is nothing is credible anymore including you BS self-proclaimed fact checker.
www.nytimes.com/.../...ris-gold-star-families.html
“ WASHINGTON, D. C. -- At 34%, Americans' trust in the mass media to report the news "fully, accurately and fairly" is essentially unchanged from last year and just two points higher than the lowest that Gallup has recorded, in 2016 during the presidential campaign.
Just 7% of Americans have "a great deal" of trust and confidence in the media, and 27% have "a fair amount." Meanwhile, 28% of U. S. adults say they do not have very much confidence and 38% have none at all in newspapers, TV and radio. Notably, this is the first time that the percentage of Americans with no trust at all in the media is higher than the percentage with a great deal or a fair amount combined.”
Democrats trust the media because it tells the democrats what they want to hear and you BELIEVE them, LMAO. Independents and Republicans have no such trust as we see the clear bias.
news.gallup.com/.../...emains-near-record-low.aspx
This is the last I am going to deal with you...
THIS:
" Your media bias fact-check is very very likely biased as well. "
is an issue.
This is like the "Who's going to police the police?" and then "Who's going to police the police who police the police?" Eventually, with that mentality, there is one policeman for every human.
It just gets out of hand and is ridiculous.
I gave a few MBFC reports to illustrate that they are pretty straight up.
Conservatives believe the NYT has a liberal bias. MBFC says that.
Liberals believe Fox has a conservative bias. MBFC says that too.
That ought to tell you that maybe they are square.
Furthermore, you can then check other sources - you suggested that sort of thing earlier.
What do they say?
AllSides says NYT "Leans Left"
www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-times
AllSides says Reuters is "Central".
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/reuters
AllSides says Fox News (Digital) is "Right".
www.allsides.com/news-source/fox-news-media-bias
Pretty much the same thing as MBFC.
Anyway, don't bother replying.
I am muting this question.
Based on the way you worded your question, and the way you worded the options, you clearly have an idiotic bias, so I will choose not to engage. He took photos, they aren't on political ads, nor are they on billboards. They were posted on social media, like a normal person might do. Not everything a person does is political.. I know your delusional ass is going to claim otherwise and that's okay. It shows your true colors. It shows you're not capable of rational thought, of rational decision making. Instead it shows you're only capable of believing what the MSM shoves down your throat and up your ass. And for that I pity you.
did Trump post the photos? Yes
Just because he posted them doesn't mean it was for political reasons moron. Going by that logic every single picture posted by everyone in the country is for political reasons... Damn you're obtuse.
Here is another comical fact @otterman68. Trump was invited there by the families of deceased soldiers. Invited. Perhaps your bias has blinded you to that fact.
President Trump was there at the invitation of families whose loved ones died because of Biden /Harris incompetency
Plus Biden took pictures at Arlington during the 2020 elections.. media didn't care... I wonder why?
Mixed... he was there to pay respects, but it's a political alignment.
I wasn't there to see how they behaved. It's important to show respect for those that died so he could have the freedom he has.
he's done well historically and repeatedly recognizing individual service members and so I favor him. he may have made dumb mistakes as well.
Absolutely disgusting. He already insulted the troops by calling them suckers and losers then saying civilian awards are better than military. Now this. How much more hatred of our military can he spout out? It's shameful and embarrassing.
what war did fucking Biden ended? the dickhead actually made the situation in Afghanistan worst by ordering our troops to retreat and leaves the weapons behind that they themselves would give to the Palestinians so they can attack Israel on October of 2023
"by the way, 65 soldiers died in Afghanistan when Trump was president,"
this is complete horseshit. no American in the middle east was harmed when Trump was in office
I think it's weird that he tried to put the blame on other people when asked about it.
Quite disrespectful.
Closest to B. Every politician takes photos around dead soldiers. The crazier thing is that Biden never called the families of the deceased who he's primarily responsible for (in my opinion). The families asked Trump to come to the cemetery and were fine with the photos.
TRump was there to pay respects to the soldiers that lost their lives on that day. Biden was sitting at the beach checking his watch. Trump is running for president and we do not know whither or not he was aware of this policy.
Sixty five soldiers lost their lives in Afghanistan during Trump's presidency. Why didn't he honor them? And do you think the rules of Arlington National Cemetery should not apply to Trump?
It's great that he keeps showing up to perform the duties of the Commander in Chief every year and that he takes time for and bends rules for gold star families.
The CiC's duties are to violate Arlington National Cemetery policy?
by the way, why didn't he honor the SIXTY-FIVE soldiers who died in Afghanistan during his presidency?
@OtterMan68 Because he does not care who dies due to him, only that he can break the rules for photo ops.
Trump has traveled to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware exactly four times to receive caskets of fallen military personnel ― fewer than half as many times as his vice president ― and avoided going at all for nearly two years after getting berated for his incompetence by the father of a slain Navy SEAL.
It's hilarious that you pretend to be offended by something you have no cultural connection to. You come from a long line of cowards that have never served in the military and you put no value on honoring the fallen. Trump continues to show up to honor the fallen and pay respect to their families. Time and time again he is there for wreath ceremonies. Biden goes to the beach to sleep in the sun instead and you think he's the bee's knees... Kamala teams up with a guy that deserted his unit... We know where you stand... and it's not good. Your lack of integrity is very clear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMkvv8PQhk
Biden took a shit in his pants on stage in front of veterans at Normandy. It's fucking disgraceful. Yet Trump keeps making time for gold star families and showing compassion even if it means he becomes the target of a media smear campaign. He's willing to take the abuse to do the right thing.
@buzzword You want to speak of cowards... Waltz served in the military honorably. He put in for retirement after serving his time. His unit received orders after that, so he did not desert his unit. Trump received a draft notice and had his daddy pay a doctor to claim he had bone spurs and could not march, after daddy paid for Trump to attend a military academy marching around waving flags (no problem at all marching). The coward was Trump and still is.
@Red_Arrow Clearly Red Arrow, you're a coward because you can't face the truth.
@Red_Arrow Yeah we know you are CCP.
@Red_Arrow You're problem is us Americans don't care about your service in the PLA.
Trump has traveled to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware exactly four times to receive caskets of fallen military personnel ― fewer than half as many times as his vice president ― and avoided going at all for nearly two years after getting berated for his incompetence by the father of a slain Navy SEAL.
Yeah we get it, everything is a score board for you. The families wishes don't matter... Just get some news coverage of your politician showing up in a suit, even if you disrespect the mothers of the fallen like Biden to tick off a number or shit your pants in front of WWII veterans at Normandy and then walk off like a schlub ignoring all the veterans while a foreign head of state shakes their hands. You really don't understand integrity. Dignified transfer is not a ceremony and is only covered by media if the families allows it. No protocol calls for the President to be present. In contrast the most solemn of ceremonies occur when the President of the United States lays a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier making national observance of Memorial Day, Veterans Day or other special occasions. Trump keeps showing up and Biden keeps doing whatever the fuck he pleases somewhere else. The other day Trump was there because the family requested it. It was the family’s wishes. He was there for them, not to tick off a number like a Democrat. How hard is it for you to honor the wishes of the dead? Media sits around Arlington all day trying to get pictures of important people. So pretending it was a big deal that someone filmed it is really just political nonsense. What’s important is that The family wanted Trump there, and he made it a priority to show up to honor their wishes. Only the most solemn of ceremonies have the President there. Meanwhile you have Sgt. Tyler Vargas-Andrews testifying to congress that he was denied permission to shoot the suicide bomber in Afghanistan who killed 13 service members and over 170 civilians under Biden leadership… But please keep talking about numbers of suit appearances as if they hold meaning.
So where's Biden again? Sniffing some underage girl? Bueller... Bueller... Bueller? Meanwhile Trump shows up for the wreath laying ceremony remembering the third anniversary of the suicide bombing in Afghanistan that killed those 13 service members that the failed leadership of Biden caused. Biden doesn't give a shit and neither do you...
x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1828077452503155163
SIXTY FIVE soldiers died in Afghanistan under Trump. Did he commemorate them?
Why don't you listen to what the family's have to say and then go tell them your numbers...
https://x.com/catturd2/status/1830200144186245288
It's disgraceful, but nothing unusual for king trump!
I guess politicians, and I'm not American, do whatever photo opportunities they like (assuming no laws are being broken) - I mean some people are just you know, broadly speaking, all about their time in the camera - any camera -
Ego's are ego"s, basically.
I voted A, sorry not sorry lol 😆😆
aww man. worst thing ever. hate when people take mean, offensive photos. But it kinda turns me on when they fake tears, leaning up against a parking lot fence pretending to be crying over illegal immigrants locked up in cages.-- Democrats in 2024.
It is a tradition for presidents to be there and have pictures taken. Bush, Clinton, Obama, etc. Or is it only not okay when Trump does it? Sounds like more TDS to me as usual.
Kamala was too busy driving around in her fossil fuel boss and Joey was plopping his ass on the beach in Delaware.
The gold star families invited Trump and did not want Kamala or Joey there.
The gold star families invited him, so tell it to them.
Pathetic smear attempt. Surely the left can do better.
He didn't. He was invited and did what Golf Star Parents wanted. Don't waste my time responding.
want me to post the rules of Arlington?
Loved it. Glad he was actually there to honor The fallen soldier. Where was kumela hurris?
so you love the fact he violated cemetery policy?
Trump has traveled to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware exactly four times to receive caskets of fallen military personnel ― fewer than half as many times as his vice president ― and avoided going at all for nearly two years after getting berated for his incompetence by the father of a slain Navy SEAL.
It does not matter where Kamala Harris was, but she was not dishonoring the fallen veterans in Arlington by using them for a political photo op. If the family that wanted him there had photos taken, that is their business. Everything was okay till Trump used the photos and videos for political gain. Typical Trump dishonoring our fallen heroes every chance he gets.
I think more people find it to be a positive thing that he was there as opposed to a negative thing.
Guess who these two are.
@Red_Arrow 
@Red_Arrow I am anonymous because political questions invariably result in name calling, as your response proves. I don't feel like putting up with this nonsense.
@Red_Arrow There is a difference between me finding your comment amusing and calling you a name.
good for him. It gave you wusses something to whine about.
It's not my place to judge, it's up to the family of the fallon soldiers to judge, and it was their judgement to invite Trump, so I'm staying neutral wether I agree or not.
Another disgusting act by a despicable excuse for a human being.
It’s disgusting and disrespectful
Nobody cares about their stupid policies.
Homeless vets are sleeping on the sidewalk outside of the hotels that are housed with illegal immigrants.
And The Democrats are crying about this incident with Trump?
families of the buried do
at Arlington?
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