Which is closer to the truth?

[OtterMan68]

The US is headed for tyranny

The Second Amendment prevents the US from becoming a tyranny

[CalmUntilAbused]

Well... Both are absolutely true, but I feel like the Second Amendment part is more important. As long as there's enough well-armed Southerners to keep the totalitarians in check, the fall of freedom in the US shall be stalled.

[Pohjolan]

These are not mutually exclusive options.

[OtterMan68]

I agree. I think if the US becomes a tyranny, the gun owners will be on the side of the tyrant.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Because most US gun owners are REPIGLIKSCAM !!!

[bluesparrow]

Tyranny? Is that when you kill your political opponent?

[Juxtapose]

Apparently it's when you're not allowed to kill your political opponent like these Democrats want 😂

[bluesparrow]

@Juxtapose

LOL Apparently. They weaponized the justice department against him. They tried to take him off the ballots. Now they're trying to kill him. Wouldn't it be easier to just find a better Democrat candidate?

[Juxtapose]

Oh they had plenty, like RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard and even Bernie Sanders. But they fucked them over and now two of those three are on team Trump.

They recognize Trump is a moderate New York liberal from the '90s. The Republican party will again become the party of Reagan and have the sane middle ground people join it.

[beefcakebradybatson]

The Second Amendment may lead to U. S tyranny if some reactionary white supremacist POS assumes power (gee, to which Presidential Candidate may I be referring?) and tells his lemming followers to use them on POC, LGBTQAIs and immigrants.

[Juxtapose]

As long as we have the second amendment we should be fine. Without it, things would rapidly change so quick people's heads would spin. Just look at what happened to Australia and other countries that were disarmed.

[OtterMan68]

Australia became a tyranny?

[Juxtapose]

Oh absolutely!



https://youtu.be/mGFdWcJU7-0?si=kIOELLTTiMbvxop2

[Juxtapose]

As soon as Americans disarm they will be forced to undergo medical treatments by people who don't even have to show their credentials.

Remember how black people were experimented on by the government with syphilis? You would see a lot more of that.

[OtterMan68]

didn't we have a Second Amendment back then?

[Juxtapose]

That's why I said my last sentence.

"You would see a lot more of that."

[OtterMan68]

Explain this then
worldpopulationreview.com/.../freedom-index-by-country

[Juxtapose]

They're stupid if they think Australia is freer than the USA when we have both free speech and guns. Meanwhile they got put into fucking covid camps.

[OtterMan68]

Personal freedom and economic freedom are made up of two sets of distinct but closely intertwined indicators. Personal freedom involves such indicators as the fairness of the laws, personal safety, freedom of movement and assembly, freedom of religion, freedom to run for political office, freedom of the press, freedom of speech and expression, and freedom to pursue same-sex relationships or obtain a divorce.

In comparison, economic freedom observes such indicators as the size of the government and degree of overbearance it imposes, tax and interest rates, the impartiality of the courts and integrity of the legal system, freedom to participate in financial markets and/or trade internationally, minimum wage, the cost of starting a business, the presence or absence of conscription (obligatory government work), and general freedom to prosper financially without intervention from the government or economic authority.

[OtterMan68]

www.wral.com/.../

[OtterMan68]

compare the number of Americans immigrating to Australia with Australians immigrating to the US

[Juxtapose]

I don't really care about what that website says or what country people go to. The facts are that Australia does not have free speech protections, they do not have the freedom to defend themselves properly and they got put into covid camps.

[OtterMan68]

how many Australians being jailed over their speech?

[Juxtapose]

Too many, you can look it up but I will give you a single example.

"The Full Court of Australia’s Federal Court has confirmed a three-month jail term for the Holocaust denier Frederick Toben for publishing offensive material on the internet."

www.worldjewishcongress.org/.../holocaust-denier-frederick-toben-in-jail-after-appeal-fails

Meanwhile in America you can be part of a Neo-Nazi group and protest in public openly. You can deny the Holocaust all you want and even say you hate Jews.

I think neo-nazis are scumbags and deserve criticism, but not prison time.

[OtterMan68]

I'll grant you that one guy.
Don't vote for Trump if you value your Constitutional rights.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump
He's also repeatedly said that networks that don't cover him favorably should lose their licenses.

[Juxtapose]

You should grant me more than that unless you want to argue that he's literally the only one who has ever went to jail for breaking that specific law. Surely you are not so crazy?

And what would he do? Overturn the results of a previous election when he just won and that would make him look really bad? Get real. He's not going to do shit like past the Patriot Act or have people spied on by the NSA. Virtually every president within my lifespan has grossly violated my constitutional rights while Trump as president was sitting pretty.

You mean how ABC conspired to commit election interference? Yeah they deserve to lose their shit for that 3v1 bullshit debate.