What will Trump do for you?

[OddBeMe]

[MisterWack]

Trump got himself a free ride where he faces no consequences for his own actions, Trump got himself seats for people in political favor talks, Trump got himself more ways to enrich himself (think LIV Golf Tournament Deal with Saudis thanks to his connections from The White House & holding world leaders at the Trump Tower $100k a night also Secret Service though he ended up paying them back), etc.

Trump won’t be out here for us, he said it plainly & bluntly. “People are dying, that’s true. It is what it is”…. “I always played it down, didn’t want to create a panic”. He thinks you are dumb, a sucker, a loser and I don’t believe that about the American people although he is laughing his ass off like “HA! They fell for it again haha!”. Especially January 6th, 2021. That wasn’t a day of “love” more than a day of “ego”. He couldn’t admit he lost so he riled you all up to storm the steps for his ego, his pride, his masculinity, his insecurity…. That isn’t a man who will fight for you.

It is over. January 20th, 2025 he is sworn in and you’ll have to look in the mirror everyday as a voter who voted him in, “My God… What have I done?” and there won’t be anyone to help you because it takes 4 years to erase the mistake with a better leader if that he allows for there to be a new Democratic or Republican administration since he’s been floating around the idea of term three which goes against United States of America First President George Washington and the rule change via The 22nd Amendment that no man can be President more than twice. Two terms you’re done!

[MisterWack]

I see Trump benefiting and American People losing, we’ve seen this show before so I know how the program will go. It is bleak as someone who used to support the Hell out of him & kissing his ass.

[godfatherfan]

Nothing. He is a piece of shit felon that only cares about the rich. Any of the cult followers that voted for that trash, who think even 1 thing will be better under him, are deluded lemmings. You people deserve the recession we will be in by the time that orange traitor is done.
The only good thing that can be said is that he can never run again and we will be done with that trash forever.

[LaureenVO]

@Dargil Because he IS a felon. His crimes literally only got ignored, bc he has become the president. It's insane to me that a president can get away with crimes, just bc he is a president. I feel like a president should be punished even more for crimes, to not mis-use the power he has.

[Daniela1982]

@godfatherfan Oh please! You don't think Biden is a crook? Get your head out of your po po. His son was a felon and Biden's family has had illegal dealings with China. He got at least $10 million from them for something, probably illegal like US secrets. And who let in 11 million illegal immigrants? Wasn't Trump. But of course they blame Trump for everything. It wasn't the Republicans in California who contributed to the LA fires, it was the Democrats, who have ruined the California economy. And since it is a Democratic state, Papa Joe is sending them $Billions while the people in the states devastated by the back to back hurricanes got $750, and they STILL have people living in the cold in tents. Where is their money for rebuilding on Biden's watch? It's the rich Democratic elites who get their asses kissed, by Biden, not Trump.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Before you delete my comment I like to say wow, what a thoughtful and factual argument—oh wait, it’s just insults and name-calling. Calling Trump a ‘felon’ doesn’t make it true, and ranting about his supporters being ‘cult followers’ just proves you can’t handle the fact that millions of Americans disagree with you.

Trump delivered the lowest unemployment rates in decades, energy independence, and peace deals no one thought possible. Compare that to Biden’s inflation crisis, open borders, and skyrocketing crime. If you think the real “recession” is coming under Trump, maybe take a look around—you’re already living in one under Biden.

Instead of throwing tantrums, try debating facts. But I won’t hold my breath.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@LaureenVO I know right? wait until you hear more about the biden’s and their family business. When you do you’re probably gonna forget what Trump was accused of

[Daniela1982]

@LaureenVO You too? You with @godfatherfan? Did you forget that Biden's felon son got pardoned by daddy? That him having drugs in the White House and drug charges seemed to get swept under the rugs. We are paying $Billions for illegal aliens, which Biden let happen. Doesn't that make him responsible for the crimes they commit. Did he stop the war in Ukraine? No, the just threw money to the Oligarchs. Has he gotten peace in the Mideast? No! That is why Trump was elected. People were tired of Do-Nothing-Joe and Cackling-Harris. You know, if you are in the Netherlands like your profile claims, you might keep your nose out of US Politics. Or is that Bullshit? That would make you a liar like the Democrats, particularly Gavin Newsom. 🙄

[Daniela1982]

@Filthy_Immigrant The Democrats have destroyed California. That is why everyone is moving out. You can't find a large U-Haul truck if you tried because they are all being used by fleeing residents. I'm thinking of doing the same and moving to where my sister lives.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Daniela1982 yeah they’re destroying all their cities, not just with fire thought. It can’t be a coincidence that all the cities that make up more than half the country’s crime rate are all democrat cities

[beefcakebradybatson]

And the obese slob may die halfway or sooner through his term !!!

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@beefcakebradybatson Biden is a lot older with dementia and many other health issues yet he is still leaving the white house alive for now in 5 more days. so I wouldn't keep my hopes too high

[Friendlybro79]

@Filthy_Immigrant The courts and the jurors that were presented real evidence found him guilty and that does make it true. By your standard of reality just because people say we're real doesn't mean our life isn't a simulation.

That example, for the matter neither of us can prove, but by the logic and principles here on earth, we consider certain things to be true so we can understand the rules in which we all engage with each other. One being that court decisions ultimately make official statements that label a person guilty or not guilty. We all have to live with the ultimate decisions and remember folks appeal over and over. But at some point it stick.

To say court decisions only are real when they give me the answer I desire, and fake when not, is what makes talking to people that say things like you difficult. You're not rooted in anything consistent.

[Friendlybro79]

@filthy_immigrant

Stats on unemployment. Sorry Trump didn't respond to covid well but remember those unemployment numbers are his and saying don't count that is ridiculous. You wouldn't do the same for Biden.
Donald Trump (January 2017 - January 2021):

Total months in office: 48

Unemployment rate (average): The unemployment rate ranged from 4.7% in January 2017 to 6.3% in January 2021, with a pandemic peak of 14.7% in April 2020.
Joe Biden (January 2021 - Present [January 2025]):

Total months in office (to date): 48 months (assuming through January 2025).

Unemployment rate (average): The rate started at 6.3% in January 2021 and has steadily declined, reaching lows of 3.4%-3.9% during much of his term.

Overall average: Approximately 4.3%, reflecting the recovery from the pandemic.

Trump average unemployment rate: ~6.3%

Biden average unemployment rate: ~4.3%

[beefcakebradybatson]

@LaureenVO LaureenVO, as the late, great George Carlin opined,"Think of the average American's stupidity and know that half are DUMBER !!!"

[LaureenVO]

@Filthy_Immigrant They are all bad. As an European I am so surprised at your presidents lol

[LaureenVO]

@Daniela1982 I'm European. I'm sure that Biden is just as bad. As an European I am so surprised at your presidents. They are all horrible. I was just saying that Trump IS a felon and that is a fact. Also, to call immigrants 'illegal aliens' is so incredibly dehumanizing and disgusting... And as a Dutch person (like in my profile) I do have an opinion about it, because the USA has a huge influence on many other countries.

[LaureenVO]

@beefcakebradybatson Lmao that's true haha

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Friendlybro79 Let me clear this up for you. First, Trump hasn’t been convicted of 34 felonies—indictments aren’t convictions. Show me actual proof of a guilty verdict and sentencing, not your recycled talking points. Until then, your argument is baseless.

Second, your unemployment stats conveniently ignore context. Before COVID, Trump’s unemployment hit historic lows of 3.5%, and the pandemic’s economic crash was caused by lockdowns—mostly pushed by Democrats. Trump set the foundation for recovery with the CARES Act and Operation Warp Speed. Biden walked into a recovering economy and then tanked it with inflation, wiping out any gains.

Finally, courts don’t define reality when there’s no evidence of the outcome you’re claiming. So unless you can provide verified proof, not cherry-picked data or imaginary court rulings, your arguments are just empty noise. Meanwhile, I’ll stick to reality, where Trump’s record speaks for itself: record-low unemployment, energy independence, and peace deals. What’s Biden’s legacy? Inflation, border chaos, and global instability

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@LaureenVO you European aren’t saints either. You all benefit from America being weak hence why you all hate trump so much. But in 5 more days things are gonna change

[Friendlybro79]

@Filthy_Immigrant Wow. Where do I begin. The stats I provided are the same measurements all presidents are measured on so your cherry picking his good stats and ignoring he was president during the beginning of covid and those crappy results were under his presidency and Biden took it and got it back down to a normal level. Two he is a convicted felon. How can you still deny the reality of this? He avoided punishment but he is convicted. He's a literal felon that got no prison time. I believe you're disingenuous and a bad actor here trolling and our so delusional you can't accept what happened to Trump. He is a convicted felon. You don't have to like it or want to pretend it's fake but it's official.

www.pbs.org/.../how-trump-avoided-punishment-for-his-felony-convictions

Amazing how fox says he's sentenced and convicted on all 34 counts but avoids saying felon lol. The 34 counts were felonies. What were they? They can't lie and say misdemeanors because they'd have to retract that. Hey use word play to fool people. You know why every other news outlet didn't have to retract the word felony? Because it's true.

You can look this up yourself. There was so much coverage on this it's unbelievable.

[Friendlybro79]

He was sentences on a class e felony

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
New York Penal Law § 175.10: Falsifying business records in the first degree
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

I found this so you don't have to go through the entire audio but 40 seconds to the end you can start to hear that he was convicted on all 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree.
https://youtu.be/A0h9czeUaaQ?si=uF5GP2_shKg0KCSQ

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Filthy_Immigrant Americans are overwhelmingly stupid and bigoted, so they overlooked Trump's THIRTY-FOUR felony convictions to re-elect someone who shares their depraved "values."

[LaureenVO]

@Filthy_Immigrant America being weak? Whatttt. I NEVER said that. You're putting words in my mouth for me. America is one of the strongest countries in the world. Both world wars were ended once the USA joined to help in Europe. So ofc is the USA not weak

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@LaureenVO America’s strength is undeniable—historically. But being strong doesn’t mean immune to bad leadership, and under Biden, we’re absolutely struggling. Inflation is crushing families, our border is in chaos, crime is skyrocketing, and international respect has plummeted after Biden’s Afghanistan debacle.

Our past victories don’t erase our present struggles. America is strong, but it needs strong leadership to stay that way. Right now, Biden’s policies are weakening us, and pretending otherwise ignores the reality millions of Americans face daily.

[godfatherfan]

@Filthy_Immigrant HE IS LITERALLY A CONVICTED FELON ON 37 COUNTS. Trump had nothing to do with unemployment levels, they were heading down due to all Obama did for this nation. The only thing Trump did was kill children (proven) by tearing families apart in a stupid attempt to "send aliens out of the country". A country built on immigration. He gave away everything to the rich. He is responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths via Covid by not following WHO and CDC guidelines. Let's not forget he tried to overthrow the government. Jan 6 alone is reason enough to never vote for him and to give him the sentence any traitor to this country gets. Because believe it that he is a traitor to this country.

[godfatherfan]

@Filthy_Immigrant Who is struggling in any area where the President has any power? If you think Frump is going to bring down grocery prices, gas prices, or not send us into the recession he sent us into his last 4 years, you are a delusional lemming like the rest. Guess who pays for higher tarrifs you idiot... WE DO...

[Filthy_Immigrant]

1. Trump “convicted felon on 37 counts”
“Still waiting for proof of this supposed conviction. You’ve had plenty of time to provide actual court records, and yet here we are. Indictments aren’t convictions, no matter how badly you want it to be true.”

2. “Trump killed children”
“Separating families at the border was done to enforce immigration law, not ‘kill children.’ And by the way, family separation policies started under Obama—so maybe direct your outrage toward him while you’re at it. Trump prioritized border security; Biden opened the floodgates, and now cartels are smuggling children like never before. Who’s really failing here?”

3. COVID blame game
“Trump followed the science while fast-tracking life-saving vaccines in record time with Operation Warp Speed. Meanwhile, Biden got handed vaccines and still mismanaged the pandemic. And don’t even start with the WHO—an organization that covered for China’s lies. Trump prioritized America over globalist bureaucrats, and that’s why you’re mad.”

[Filthy_Immigrant]

4. “Recession under Trump”
“You mean the one caused by COVID lockdowns, which were pushed hardest by Democratic governors? Before the pandemic, Trump delivered record-low unemployment, a booming economy, and energy independence. Biden’s inflation and reckless spending are what’s crushing Americans now. Grocery prices, gas prices, housing—all worse under Biden. Facts don’t lie.”

5. Tariffs
“Trump’s tariffs on China were designed to protect American industries and jobs from unfair trade practices. Biden, on the other hand, caved to China while ignoring skyrocketing inflation that’s hurting every American family. Who’s really looking out for us?”

Conclusion

Your argument is nothing but emotional accusations with no basis in fact. Trump delivered results: record-low unemployment, peace deals, secure borders, and energy independence. Biden’s record? Inflation, open borders, and international humiliation. Keep spinning your false narrative—it’s not fooling anyone.

[Friendlybro79]

@Filthy_Immigrant why are you refusing to acknowledge his sentencing that literally just happened? Here's the official NYS document showing he was convicted on all 34 felony counts. Seriously if you refuse this isn't real you don't deserve responding to. Your a troll then.

www.nycourts.gov/.../...T%20Clayton%20Decision.pdf

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Friendlybro79 Oh, yet another ‘official document’ claim? That’s cute. Just like the leftist rejects in this site but I’m sure this link proves absolutely nothing about Trump being ‘convicted on 34 felony counts.’ If it did, this would be front-page news everywhere in the U. S., and yet it’s mysteriously missing from reality.

[Friendlybro79]

@Filthy_Immigrant so what qualifies as proof you? Even trump acknowledged his sentencing lol. He reacted to it immediately after being sentenced. Stop being a dickhead

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Friendlybro79 When did this ‘sentencing’ happen? Because no credible news outlet—left, right, or center—has reported it, and if Trump had been sentenced, it would be breaking news everywhere. You’re inventing stories at this point to avoid admitting you have no proof.

Show me verifiable court records or official reports—not more hearsay or cherry-picked nonsense. Until then, stop pretending your fantasy is reality.

[Friendlybro79]

@Filthy_Immigrant I just sent you the official court document off the NYS courts. gov website. It's a a copy. www.nycourts.gov/.../...T%20Clayton%20Decision.pdf

All media outlets have reported this fool and I'm not going to keep doing your bidding because you're too stupid to acknowledge reality. You're a waste of time. You can respond if you'd like but I'm not replying to a bad faith actor online any longer.

[Friendlybro79]

Copy of the actual document if you in PDF format *

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Friendlybro79 dude how retarded do you think we humans are? Do you really think a court would leak classified documents to the general public? Again if this was true both democrats and republicans would not shut up about this, specially now that he will enter the white house in less than 72 hours

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@Friendlybro79 “Thanks for admitting you’ve got nothing but insults and weak links to offer. If the ‘court records’ are so public and official, why hasn’t a single credible U. S. source reported this supposed conviction? Because it never happened.

Throwing a tantrum doesn’t make your fantasy reality. Enjoy being ‘out’ while the rest of us stick to facts.✌️

[goaded]

@Friendlybro79 He's been pulling the same shit for a week on What's the correct term of address for the next US president? ↗

He finally admits that Trump was sentenced, so then he moved on to lying to pretend I ever said Trump was punished.

[Friendlybro79]

@goaded I blocked him. I'm up for debate with people that aren't delusional. It's totally ok to disagree with me on opinions and how we should run the country economically and policies. But people like him are trolls and are just engaging to annoy people and not act in good faith.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded Jesus dude, you have no life do you. I owned your ass in your own post and now you’re jumping on this one?

Also tell @friendlybro to stop being a coward and unblock me so I can see his bitchass comments when the two of you mingle with each other

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant No, you didn't "own my ass", you spent a week lying then pretended you were talking about something else. It's sad, really. No wonder people block you.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@goaded you’re obviously here bitching in another post because you’re too scared to go back to the last one, where you did get owned hence why you used offensive words and deflection throughout that whole week

Till then is not as sad as you hopping other post and doing whatever it takes to have the last word and feel like you’ve won your own ranting campaign. Sounds like your whole life is an entire sad series

[goaded]

@Filthy_Immigrant Lying about that, too? I replied to your nonsense on there an hour before my previous post on here. I think @Friendlybro79 has the right idea, you're a lying troll not worth our time.

[Anonymous]

He'll spend 4 years using taxpayer money to get personal revenge on everyone. He'll give himself a tax cut. He'll maybe invade Greenland lol. He'll rename some water to a different name that isn't beneficial to anyone. So... nothing. He's already admitted he won't be able to bring prices down, can't stop the Ukraine war on Day 1 and is threatening wars. He's already admitted everything he campaigned on is a lie.

[Anonymous]

Cheaper food and gas, jobs, no more wars funded by us taxpayers. He also won't give away taxpayer money to pay off people's bad student loans, if you go to college and can't earn money then maybe you shouldn't have gone to college and instead gotten a job or trade.

[goaded]

"Cheaper food" He already said he won't do that.

[Still-alive]

So what will you do when absolutely none of that happens?

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded www.aol.com/...-plans-bring-grocery-121208780.html

[Opinion Owner]

@Still-alive at the very least he won't have tax payers paying off college students loans after they wasted four years getting a degree that's worth less than toilet paper 🧻

[Still-alive]

Even if it means you get to pay higher taxes for everything else? unless you're a billionaire?

[goaded]

"But when asked if he'd be able to bring grocery costs down once in office, Trump admitted that while he was optimistic, "It's hard to bring things down once they're up. You know, it's very hard." He said that even if prices on the shelves didn't fall, he didn't think it would mark his presidency as a failure.

Trump's answer was decisively different from the tone he struck while campaigning for the White House. A day before the 2024 election, he delivered a final message to his supporters at a rally in Pittsburgh, "A vote for Trump means your groceries will be cheaper."

"So many people mention groceries--a beautiful but simple word: groceries," Trump said on November 4. "You don't think of it that way, but that's what they mention more than anything: 'my groceries.' ""

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded with Biden inflation run amoke...
Groceries and the economy already improved after Trump won.

[goaded]

No, they didn't. I'm not going to show the numbers because you'll just ignore them and lie some more.

[Still-alive]

"Groceries and the economy already improved after Trump won. "

You know he's still not even sworn it right? Biden is still the president.

[Opinion Owner]

@Still-alive it's the trump effect.

[Still-alive]

the one where he claims credit for things other people do? yeah that effect is shitty.

[Opinion Owner]

@Still-alive no. Litteraly things begun improvement the day after it was announced he had won. Biden did nothing.

[Still-alive]

lol ok if you say so. lets see what you'll say after the Tariffs go through...

[Daniela1982]

The problem is he didn't do it for everyone, just for the kids of Democrats, or the losers who got worthless degrees they can't make a living from. But as always, not all people are equal in the US, just certain people. You also notice that US Citizen homeless and Vets don't even get the benefits that Bidens illegal "guests" get. The US Taxpayer comes last for any handouts - I take that back. they don't get any AT ALL. 🙄

[Daniela1982]

@goaded You didn't see a drop in gas prices after Trump won? The Dems had to look like they did something.

[goaded]

@Daniela1982 To the same price as this time last year? Big deal.

[Friendlybro79]

He's been saying how he can't lower food prices now you do know that right? He said whatever he needed to so he would win. He's not going to do those things except the college loan forgiveness. Why give anything to avg Americans right? Education is stupid right? It's everyone's fault that college is so expensive you need loans right? It's so stupid that good paying jobs require a degree right? It's also possible for everyone to compete for trade jobs because if they all just stop going to college and all try to become electricians, they'll be enough jobs for all them..

Gas is cheaper and has been for a while. Adjusted for inflation it's not nearly at its highest price.

Drill baby drill lol. We're already the biggest exporter in the world. We are drilling and our supply goes into a global market where the highest bidder gets our oil because oil isn't running by the government it's run by for profit organizations that don't care to lower the price for you. Trump makes a claim and has zero plan. He admits things like that all the time when he talks about replacing Obama care. He's had since 2016 and he still only has concepts of a plan lol. What a joke

[Friendlybro79]

And tarrifs on countries like Mexico and Canada which we rely on for food will be much higher if he enacts them. He's an idiot

[NimbleOcelot]

Cheaper food and gas: Already said he can't, and his tariffs would greatly increase them.

Jobs: Biden had better job growth than Trump.

Wars: He's already threatened at least 3 different countries with military force, and economic force for Canada. Might even be more I'm not fully aware of, considering Musk threatened war with Europe.

For the college thing, paying off student loans is the one way we have to even the paying field to allow poor kids to get into college so that they are able to at least get a more even playing field starting out. College should be about the merits of your own intelligence, not about the merits of your parent's wallet. You can call the degrees useless, but college grads make a million dollars more on average than non college grads, iirc, and it opens up more job growth than getting a job out of high school. An engineer for example makes $70k starting out, which many people who get a job right out of high school won't see.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump's tariffs will make the U. S economy Charmin-soft.

[Daniela1982]

Already the gas prices have risen 30 cents a gallon in just a week.

[NimbleOcelot]

@Daniela1982 In preparation for Trump's tariffs, yes.

[Anonymous]

Naturally Trump - who cheated on Ivana with Marla & cheated on Marla with Melania & cheated on Melania with Stormy - wants Kristi Noem, who cheated on her husband with Corey Lewandowski, who’s married & cheated on his wife with Hope Hicks - as DHS secretary. Family values my ass.

[OddBeMe]

It wouldn't be so bad if all those fucks didn't preach family values. Lol

[ForevrLonely29]

American-first policies, addressing the illegal aliens crisis, restoring order and safety, bringing jobs back to the US, bringing energy independence back... the list goes on and on.

I cannot wait for the focus to be veered back to actual important issues affecting everyday Americans, not this tranny or gay shit or all this DEI/CRT nonsense.

[goaded]

The only people focusing on "this tranny or gay shit or all this DEI/CRT nonsense" were the right. So you'd vote against your own interests.

Don't you know that the US is extracting more oil that ever before?

That during Biden's administration 16.6 million new jobs were created, the most in any single presidential term? That there wasn’t a month when the economy lost jobs. Another record for any presidency. The last month America lost jobs was the month before Biden came to office.

The BLM riots were under Trump's watch. The Jan 6 attack was Trump's doing. How is that for "order and safety"?

The number of people crossing the southern border is lower now than when Biden took office in the middle of the pandemic.

[IHateBeingaMan]

@goaded another thing i fully agree with, even though lots of people are delusional about it, is that the Biden-Harris administration, they actually wanted to strengthen border security, they wanted to get tougher on immigration, but Republicans blocked their efforts, Biden kept trying to pass bills that would strengthen Border security, put more authorities at the Border, but Trump kept persuading Republicans in the House to vote against the bills, and it worked for Trumps favor. Because Trump wanted the border and immigration to be a problem, issue, so that way he can blame Biden for it and campaign on that issue in the election. www.nbcnews.com/.../senate-republicans-block-border-security-bill-campaign-border-chaos-rcna153607

[Daniela1982]

@goaded I call Bull Puckie! Butt Head Biden is the one who let in 11 Million illegal immigrants, meaning that Biden broke immigration law and is responsible for bringing criminals, drug runners, cartels, gangs, etc. and is therefore accountable for the crimes they commit. He is also responsible for the $Billions of taxpayer money going to taking care of them, and turning a blind eye to their retail theft crimes and selling the stuff within eyesight of the stores they stole it from. And remember Afghanistan where Biden left 13 service members to die and left $Billions in military equipment behind for the Taliban. FFS, get a brain and stop watching Democrat funded news. 🙄

[Daniela1982]

@IHateBeingaMan You are another Trump hating, Biden butt kissing Democrat. It wasn't Trump that was flying and busing the illegals all over the US, or flying in the criminals let out of prisons South America or Chinese single military aged men. I wouldn't be surprised if the spread out fires in California weren't started by these|"terrorist criminals" that Biden helped spread throughout the US. That was Bite-on-it's fault, not Trump. Also, over 80,000 minor and undocumented children went missing under Biden's watch. And you know how he likes children. 🙄 I'm sure a lot of the 60,000 teens that go missing every year disappeared into the sex slave on Biden's watch too. You Biden lovers need to see him for what he is, a loser who was worth shit as a Senator and is seen as the worst President ever by most people. Another interesting note. Gas prices have only started going down because they want to make it look like they did something for the economy. Please! 😂🤣😅

[IHateBeingaMan]

@Daniela1982 even Mitt Romney supports that allegation, but anyway, lets say if it is true that Biden was a horrible President, Bush Jr was worse, got us into a war that was completely unneccessary, Iraq had zero WMD's, had nothing to do with 9/11, slow delayed response to Hurricane Katrina, economy collapse in 2008 which was the worst since the Great Depression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wmxbJFbD_A

[Daniela1982]

@ForevrLonely29 I'm with you there. We got to take care of ourselves before we can help others. The sick can not help the sick.

[goaded]

@Daniela1982 None of the things you listed was true, except by accident. The "Bull Puckie" was 100% true.

Taking Afhganistan for example, it's really hard to take billions of dollars of roads and training with you when you leave a country, and don't you think your soldiers would have been safer if Trump hadn't released 5000 Taliban fighters beforehand? It was Trump's agreement to leave the country Biden was executing.

[NimbleOcelot]

@Daniela1982 So if something bad occurs, it's democrats fault. If something good happens, the democrats are putting on a show. Your line of thinking is tribal at best. Trump has already failed your expectations, and he's not even in office yet.

[Anonymous]

Maybe make the richest demographic in America pay for the 'education' that failed to get them a job, unlike Joe Biden.

Ideally Trump should demand the universities themselfs be made financially responsible for the failed product they sold.

[NimbleOcelot]

You realize that paying off college debts favors the children of the poor more than it does the children of the rich, right? Rich people don't need student loans.

[Opinion Owner]

@NimbleOcelot Poor people don't go to collage. and those that do tend not to remain poor even if they paid too much for it.

[NaultD]

That's a fascinating way to hold the education institution and students loan a mutual binding contract that holds the learning institution liable of breaking contract.

It's still an uphill fight but not a negative incline that it is commonly known as today.

[Opinion Owner]

@NaultD It should be its the time tested way to deal with someone who sells you a defective product.

Until the universities themselfs are made financially liable for their products their focus will be running students thou a useless treadmill to squeeze as much money and therefore time out of them as they can.

[NimbleOcelot]

@monorprise Yes, poor people don't go, because they can't afford it. That's why the government should give them the opportunity to go.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The job of a president is not to give other people’s tax money to those who don’t deserve it.

[dustybiker2]

And who decides who "deserves it"?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 you don't deserve to have your college loans paid for by other people.

[dustybiker2]

You are thinking on the small scale.
Now think of it on a broader scale. Educated populations make smarter countries.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 Great. If they want to be educated, they can pay for it.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@dustybiker2 college doesn’t educate people. They test your memory not your knowledge. Therefore you deserve to paid those college brats debts specially those who owe +150K that most likely used it all to drink, smoke, buy drugs, buy expensive clothes abd the list goes on

[dustybiker2]

You both only prove how to keep a country weak.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 Only if you come from the incorrect assumption that a college degree is the only way to produce an intelligent, productive member of society. I'd take a non-college degree plumber over a blue haired gender study major any day to keep my country strong.

[dustybiker2]

Incorrect?
So you can be hired as a lawyer or doctor/etc other lifetime supporting job without any education at all? Not even basic communication skills? You mean you can gain all of that on your lonesome peddling drugs on street corners or from your sidewalk tent?

[NimbleOcelot]

So fuck the poor's who can't pay for it, right? Just make the caste system more apparent?

[NimbleOcelot]

Clearly, we should keep giving tax breaks and bailouts to the rich, who earned it by being born wealthy, and not to the poor's trying to educate and better themselves, because hard work isn't worth as much as nepotism or wealthy lineage.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot You don't need a college degree to have a lucrative career.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 Incorrect. I said what I said.

[NimbleOcelot]

No, but it makes it 10 times easier, as proven by the fact that college grads make a million more in their lifetime on average.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Ok, so if you think your "million more" is worth an investment of $80,000 then go to college. Take out loans to finance your investment and pay them back.

If I thought opening a pizza place was a good investment to make me money, who's paying for my small business loan?

[NimbleOcelot]

The government regularly bails out businesses. In fact, one of the big issues currently is that big businesses get kickbacks for no reason. We can track where college degrees are needed, and they help out economy. Degrees shouldn't only be allowed for the rich, and the countries who give free college have already seen the benefits. The only reason you don't like it is either because you don't understand the importance of an educated population, are rich yourself, or don't care if your kids have the chance to go to college.

[NimbleOcelot]

Not to mention the fact that most of the loans have such high interest, most people never pay them off. What Biden paid for was the loans of people who have already paid back their loans, and then some.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot No, I don't think that I'm responsible for paying for someone else's choices. I'll give you that it's unconscionable that a government charges interest on loans it gives out. I've continually stated that making the loans interest free is a reasonable compromise.

[dustybiker2]

@seeyounexttuesday It's okay. We get it. You never picked up the fact that a team is stronger than going it alone. Some people are stuck in their ways.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 and I get it. You think other people's money is your money.

[NimbleOcelot]

You benefit from those choices, because those choices are engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. Not to mention your children benefit from it as well, if they decide they want to be a doctor, lawyer, dentist, etc. You are so concerned about being selfish with your money that you don't realize the few dollars you spend a month will save you more in the long run, and give you better choices in professionals.

[dustybiker2]

@seeyounexttuesday You miss the point because you focus on the small picture. You contribute to creating better doctors you get better doctors. You aren't missing out.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot You’re being selfish because you’re trying to take things that aren’t yours

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 Great. I think you’re right. Send me some money. I want to start a new business. PM me and I’ll send you my Venmo.

[NimbleOcelot]

No, because I had the military pay for mine. So swing and a miss. You are the one being selfish, because you don't want to spend a small amount of money each year to better your country with skilled professionals, while also lowering the divide between the rich and the poor. We've already discussed how this helps you, and your children, in the long run.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot So people who want free college can join the military. I'm paying for my children's college. That's my responsibility. They are taking out loans. Those are their responsibility. I'm not going to be greedy and demand that you pay for my kid's college.

And if you want me to pay for another kid's college for this magical great society of skilled professionals, then I get to tell these kids what they can and can not major in. I get to tell these kids what grades they should make. I'm not paying for some dumbass to get a gender studies degree. They need to be an accountant.

[NimbleOcelot]

You'd end up paying less in the long run to pay for your kids and someone else's kids college, since now you wouldn't have to save up $80000 per child. Also, joining the military puts you behind other college students.

Also, the fact that you keep going back to gender studies. Very few people get a degree in that. You'll be paying for engineers, teachers, professors, scientists, doctors, dentists, etc, etc. you would benefit from it. The fact that your rather get less for your money, just so someone else doesn't get anything for your money shows either how ignorant you are, or how malicious. Also, not everyone can pay for their kids to go to college. There's a reason the divide is growing between the rich and the poor, and in case you haven't noticed, you aren't on the side of the rich. Your mo ey is worth less and less because you vote for things that favor the rich, and not for things that favor you or your children.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Ok, so as long as I get to decide who has to do what major. And I also want to cut down on the partying. No way I'm paying for a kid to start college, party his ass off freshman year then drop out. Unless I can sue him for money lost.

[dustybiker2]

@seeyounexttuesday I do not have a problem with contributing to paying for mass education of a country, that would include yours if legitimate. If not legitimate or if people do not prove to put that education to good use then they should have to pay it back. That would be a system I'd have no problem with.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@dustybiker2 We have a system in place like that already. She something costs you money, you evaluate whether it’s a good financial decision for you or not.

[NimbleOcelot]

My god, your line of thinking is terrible. Some people might take advantage, so let's fuck up the US for everyone, so that the few don't take advantage of it. Only the rich should be allowed to take advantage of the system, right? Who cares if you'd pay less in taxes in the long run, as long as this one person doesn't get drunk, you don't care about all the doctors that we need but don't get. Stop thinking with your hate and think with your brain.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot I care if I'd pay less taxes. I hate to fucking break it to you, but I work to make money for me and my family.

MOST people would take advantage. There is less of an incentive among people to be responsible with other people's money than there is for them to be responsible with their own money. Our government is prime example of that.

[NimbleOcelot]

You realize that they go to college to get jobs, right? Some people might drop out, because they don't understand what college is like, but the amount that go there just to party are few. Especially when you take into consideration that colleges can still reject people who they think would fit your criteria. You are getting caught up on a nail sticking 1 cm out of the wall, and letting it stop you from reaching the finish line.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot you still don’t understand you don’t need college to be successful in life.

[OddBeMe]

@seeyounexttuesday don't need to. But helps significantly. Only having rich parents is better

[seeyounexttuesday]

Or working in a real job.

[OddBeMe]

There tons of real jobs that pay shit. And you can literally measure shit jobs by looking at who only has high school.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Hm. Weird that lots of millionaires are the guy down the street who busts his ass at his landscaping company

[OddBeMe]

80% of millionaires are college grads genius

[seeyounexttuesday]

Guess they can afford to pay off their own loans, then.

[OddBeMe]

Sure. Like all Democrat marxist bills... only the poor get their loans paid off.

[NimbleOcelot]

@seeyounexttuesday I can make 50% more starting out after graduating college than my brother does working full time in a well paid regular job in my home town. Making it so only the rich can afford college not only gives them a headstart, since they don't need to go the military route, but it makes it so many poor people can't go to college at all. Free college helps the poor, not the rich. It's the leading way to equalize income inequality.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Again, everyone can get loans. They can get scholarships, they can go into the military.

[NimbleOcelot]

Yes, and those loans are charged ridiculous fees after a certain amount. Why should the poor be forced to pay more than the rich?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot you understand that people with worse credit are charged more interest because they're a higher risk of defaulting, right? Have you just never learned anything about how the world works?

[NimbleOcelot]

I'm talking about the fact that rich people can just pay it outright. Also, how are you defending getting charged for not having money? I'm not talking about people with bad credit. I'm talking about student loans, vs rich people who can pay for them outright. Not to mention the fact that while you are so against poor, intelligent people rising in the world, the rich are allowed to fuck up their business, and then make the government pay for it. It's not about accountability. It's about status, and you are supporting this shit.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot You're getting charged for having bad credit. You can have good credit and low income. But I'd really like you to prove there are different interest rates for federal student loans based on your income.

You make wild claims with no proof.

[NimbleOcelot]

I'm not getting charged shit, because I used the military to do so. 18 year olds don't have credit. They aren't being charged for bad credit. They are being charged for coming from a poor family.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot let's try this again, see if you can follow along. Prove to me that federal student loans have different interest rates based on their credit score.

[NimbleOcelot]

Let's try this again and see if you can follow along. Rich people don't need student loans at all, and again, 18 year olds won't have credit at all, for the most part.

[NimbleOcelot]

At my bank, just having money is enough to get a better account, that actually gives more money back, regardless of credit scores.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot So from what I can infer from your two non-answers is that, no, you can't find any evidence that lower-income people pay higher federal student loan interest rates. But you're hoping that by changing the subject that I won't remember what I asked.

[NimbleOcelot]

Tf? You are actively ignoring what I'm saying to try and prove yourself right. Rich people don't pay interest, because they can pay it outright. They don't get caught up in student loan traps. Also, even outside the interest, a millionaire paying $40k for a year of school means nothing to them. Someone who's parents couldn't, or chose not to send them to school, that 40k per year is a 10 year commitment at minimum, and often it's a lifetime commitment.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Because you know you're intentionally lying to make your point. Pretty easy. by the way I have a kid in college. Should I send you my venmo. Since you feel that we should pay for other people's college.

[NimbleOcelot]

How am I lying. Are you saying someone with a million dollars can't just pay for it? Versus someone who has to work a part time job to pay for it, but doesn't even make enough in a year to pay for one or two semesters? College isn't as cheap as it was when you were a kid. You are purposely ignoring my point. I'm sure you are fine with all the other government programs you benefit from.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot You're lying when you say that "poor" people are paying higher interest rates on federal student loans than "rich" people.

Furthermore, these "poor" people are more likely to get grants than their upper-middle class counterparts.

College wouldn't be so expensive if the government didn't guarantee the colleges they'd have a never ending supply of students and money.

[NimbleOcelot]

Poor people pay higher interest, in that they have to pay it at all.

Yes, get grants, which is paying for their college. That's what I'm arguing for, but on a wider scale.

Take a look at all the other places where college is free. They pay less than we do in America for taxes for their college. If the government paid for all college, it'd be easier to set limits on the prices colleges could charge, outside of private colleges.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot bahahaha. You fucking clown.

[NimbleOcelot]

Yep, arguing with a sixty years old child who had it easy growing up, and doesn't know the hardships people have to deal with now.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot ok clown.

[NimbleOcelot]

Wow, 60 years old, and you only have one insult?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot and you're a grownup who views the world like a toddler.

[NimbleOcelot]

Except I'm right, as proven by all the countries that have free education. You've just never been outside of the US or talked to anyone from another country.

[NimbleOcelot]

You can argue your opinion as much as you want, but the stats prove you wrong.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot There's no such thing as free education.

[NimbleOcelot]

No, but free education for all is cheaper than what we have now, as proven by literally every other country that has it. You've just been duped into thinking the American way is better, while the oligarchy is tugging your strings.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot There's no such thing as "free" education.

[NimbleOcelot]

I doubt you'd know, seeing as how your comment didn't even take into account what I said. Yes, it'll be paid in taxes, but the taxes would be cheaper than they are now, since the government wouldore easily be able to set the prices. You just gave up arguing once stats became involved though, didn't you? Because either you don't understand them, or because you don't want to admit you are wrong. It seems like you should have had some more education yourself.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot lol, wow government price fixing? That's full on commie, there. You're the guy who bullshitted and said that poor people pay a higher interest rate than other people for federal student loans, so shut the fuck up with your self-described intelligence.

[NimbleOcelot]

Lo fucking l. Still bragging about how you didn't understand a thing I said. No, it's not communism. It's about letting colleges be public and have fixed pricing, or let them be private and choose. It's called the free market. Everything about me tells me you can't think past your own thoughts.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot I understood completely. You made up some bullshit to justify your stupidity. So how are you going to fix prices on colleges? Let's think about you just posted.

So that means you set professor's salaries. How do you account for differences in cost of living throughout the country?

What's the incentive for a professor to go the extra mile when the dumbest professor in the country makes the same amount?

[NimbleOcelot]

Woooow, you don't even know anything about the government either? Never served in the military? Let me try to dumb it down enough for you, if that's possible.

First off, if you pay for college outright, and don't need a loan, do you pay interest? Noo, really, you don't? Huh, almost like what I said was true.

Second, not all professors would make the same, just like not all government employees make the same. Also, the colleges aren't government agencies. They just get paid by the government. Also, as far as the government goes, they have Basic Allowance for Housing, which is determined by where you live, almost like they take into account the different costs of living.

Go look at any other country that has done this successfully, and you'll see that it's really easy to do, especially since you have working examples you can build off of.

Also, since you want to try to call this socialism, should you have to start paying the fire department to come out instead of the government employing them? What about police? Surely they should be private too, since that's communism to allow everyone to use them for free. Also, what about city parks and public areas? That's socialism too, right? Clearly it is, since you everyone pays for it.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Ok dummy. let's break it down then. If there are two colleges. One in NYC and one in BFE Alabama... you pay all the professors/staff/administrators more because the COL is higher, then the college will cost more.

[NimbleOcelot]

Yes, and? They can determine acceptable pricing by state and by region. It's really not that hard. They already do this after all. I think you are thinking it'd be a set price, but they'd haggle with each college individually, based on merit, students attending, employees, etc. like, this isn't a hard concept. But I guess America isn't a good enough country to do what other countries do so easily.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Great. So my kid's rent is $510. You ready for my venmo?

[NimbleOcelot]

No one said anything about rent. I like how you are ignoring all the big talking points for some lame "gotcha." Also, the fact that your kid's rent is $510 tells me the area you live in is cheap af, so you don't even understand the struggle of most of the rest of the country.

Anyway, stop ignoring my questions about fire stations, police, and city parks, etc. Also stop ignoring that by all metrics, free college for all through taxes would be cheaper than what you pay for now in taxes.

[NimbleOcelot]

The fact that you'd rather pay more in taxes to make it harder for people to go to college is telling.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Yeah, my kid needs rent at college. What you don't want her to have a college education? What a selfish prick.

[NimbleOcelot]

Stop ignoring my questions for your foolish fantasies. You can't answer them can you? Isn't that why you started resorting to name calling in the first place.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Your entire position is based on ignorance and a selfishness that you demand other people pay for your choices.

When the US government stops spending billions on foreign aid and my taxes are cut by 75% then you come talk to me about paying for other people's college.

[NimbleOcelot]

My entire position is based on the readily available data from all the other countries with free healthcare and education, who all report a higher happiness among it's citizens than the US, and all rate themselves as more free.

Now answer my questions, or are you trying to cover up your own ignorance by ignoring them? Can't prove your lack of insight if you refuse to give it, right? That shit might work on others, but it won't work on me. Answer my questions, or admit you are unable to.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Right. Those countries are subsidized militarily by the US. So they can have these cushy lifestyles. In addition, they don't come close to US productivity.

[NimbleOcelot]

Stop evading the questions. We aren't talking about the military. We are talking about education. You really don't have an answer, do you? You can't think of a reason why we can't do it, especially when it'd lower costs, other than that's what the media has been telling you. I took thought the same until I actually started looking into it, so maybe you should too.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Yes we are. I do have an answer. I've given it to you as crystal clear as I can. If you choose to get a college education, you are deciding that the cost of a college education is a benefit to you as it gives you career advantages. Just like if I decide that opening a pizza shop is a good career, the cost of opening a business is less than the potential profits of that pizza shop.

In both cases, you have to borrow money that you're expected to pay back if you don't have the liquid cash to pay for either outright.

Neither of which is my responsibility to pay for.

[NimbleOcelot]

No, you are answering your question, not mine. Should police, fire departments, and public areas be paid services and privately owned, to avoid being called communist?

Also, if it will reduce what you already pay in taxes towards college funds, why wouldn't you want to go ahead with it, when it's been proven to work in other countries?

The fool is the one who sees someone using a car to drive and calls them foolish because they get by just fine on their horse.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot What a retarded thing to say that because nothing you listed is "communist". Do you even understand the terms you use?

You claim it'll reduce my taxes, I'm calling that statement bullshit.

[NimbleOcelot]

I'd that's not socialist, then how is having the government pay for college education socialist? Both are services provided to the public, and fire stations are in the same category as hospitals as necessary resources, so what makes one socialist, but the other one not? Your argument falls apart here, because you can't argue one is while the other isn't.

And every stat and metric has proven it'd reduce the overall costs, because it'd be easier to control the inflation for it if they can't artificially inflate prices. This isn't an opinion, as I told you. We have statistical evidence, but I guess such a smart guy like you thinks your lack of research or experience in the matter is better than those who have done the research and are educated in this matter.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot ok, then let's not stop. Since we have police we should have central control over every aspect of your life. THat's what you want?

[seeyounexttuesday]

what a stupid argument.

[NimbleOcelot]

How tf is this controlling your life? Your life is literally being controlled by insurance companies, because you rely on them to cover your healthcare and they won't, or because people have to go into debt to work, which makes no sense in an advanced society. You are just throwing out buzzwords because you don't have an actual argument past what you parroted from talkshow hosts and republican influence.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot bahahaha... When you take money out of my paycheck without my consent, it is controlling my life. The concept is REALLY that simple.

[NimbleOcelot]

They already do, you consent to it by living in the US, and it'd be less in the long run. The government is supposed to provide benefits to it's civilians. That's the entire fucking point of it. But fuck the next generation, right? You are close enough to the grave that their education doesn't affect you much anymore, right? The concept is simple. Your generation fucked our economy and the lives of your children, and you are laughing as your children suffer.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot So again, let's use your tax money to pay for my mortgage.

[NimbleOcelot]

No, because you chose what house you wanted to live in. I do however support basic housing using my tax dollars. This is also something that many countries aside from. The US has done. The US can do better, but greed prevents it. What I don't get is why most Christians support thos ideology when it goes against the teachings of Jesus.

[OddBeMe]

@seeyounexttuesday Just to jump in... that's exactly what these fcking billionaires want. For us to pay for their shit. And a million bucks to trump is a cheap bribe.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Weird that Trump is doing everything in his power to reduce our tax burden, then,.

[NimbleOcelot]

And what is that? Because in his first term, he set a bill in motion that'd gradually raise the taxes on the working class over the course of 8 years. Or are you just trusting him on this one? Surely he'll do better the second time and be less corrupt this time?

[OddBeMe]

Nope he won't

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot That's a blatent lie. His tax reforms were proven to reduce taxes on everyone.

[NimbleOcelot]

Wait, he's already put something into place for it? Well, glad to see the Republicans pick is doing what he promised I guess.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot He's debating the elimination of the income tax.

[NimbleOcelot]

@seeyounexttuesday yes, during his first term, to make him look good. But they lasted 8 years, where after the first four, they increased your taxes, to which you blamed Biden for.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot right. Because Biden was president and could have passed tax cuts. Try to keep up.

[NimbleOcelot]

Wait, hold on. Do you think the elimation of income tax in it's entirety is a good thing? Yes, taxes suck, but they have a very important use in the government.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot 100% a good thing. Without a doubt.

[NimbleOcelot]

And you called me naive.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot No, I've called you stupid. There's a difference.

[NimbleOcelot]

You've also called me naive. You are hurting your own argument at this point. You should have stopped while you were only slightly behind if you refuse to change your stance in light of new evidence.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot lol. There's no evidence to convince me to pay for another person's college. You won't even pay for my kid's college, so you're a hypocrite.

[NimbleOcelot]

There's a huge difference in spending 60k to pay for someone's college who can afford it, and spending a small portion of my taxes to help everyone afford it. Especially since my taxes would then be lowered.

educationdata.org/how-much-would-free-college-cost

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot So then start right now. Rent is due on the 1st. You've got 2 weeks to come up with the $500.

[NimbleOcelot]

I like how you completely ignore my facts with a failed "gotcha." And fyi, I already pay for basic housing with my taxes. If you want me to pay your rent, go live there.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot No, I want you to pay my kid's rent. She's in college.

[NimbleOcelot]

Tell her to go live in subsidized housing then. Why are you ignoring the link showing the breakdown of how you'd be paying less taxes to give out free college?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot wait, no you don't get to dictate what my kid does. You pay for her rent.

[NimbleOcelot]

I already pay the rent for subsidized housing with my tax dollars. Your argument is trash.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Yeah, this isn't subsidized housing. It's for her housing.

[NimbleOcelot]

Your argument is sad. Like, you all think that's a gotcha, but it's not. I'm wasting my time with someone who just copies the weakest argument tactics to avoid proof.

If you don't respond to the fact that it'll be cheaper, then you lost.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Right, I'm helping you lower your taxes by paying my kid's college.

[NimbleOcelot]

No, because you are fighting the legislation that'd lower my taxes and give free college education just so that there's an artificial filter based on who can afford it without government intervention.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot I'm giving you the opportunity to provide free college to a deserving student

[NimbleOcelot]

I will if everyone gets it, not just one person who has daddy money.

[NimbleOcelot]

Through my taxes.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot But let's start with one and see how that goes.

[NimbleOcelot]

Still avoiding the question. In other words, you know you are wrong, but are too old and senile to care. Because fuck everyone else, right. Fuck the younger generations who can't afford to buy houses, have to share rent, can't afford to go to the doctor, and have to deal with the mess your generation has caused. And then your generation continues to vote against us at every turn, even though this affects us way more than it affects you, who had the benefits of the kind of economy that we want to go back to. It wasn't communism when you were a kid to have high taxes for the rich, but now it is? Tell your kids and grandkids you hate them, because your vote says as much.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot you're the one not willing to help.

[NimbleOcelot]

Stop ignoring my question. Why would I support having higher taxes to get less in return, when I can lower my taxes and allow everyone to get free education?

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot you're not even being taxed... this is direct contributions to help someone get a free education

[NimbleOcelot]

Well, since you can't admit you are wrong, this conversation is done. You lost, because you have no rebuttal.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot I’m just tired of you being selfish.

[NimbleOcelot]

Not wanting people to die in false wars, not wanting the country I grew up in fall, and not wanting people to lose their freedom of speech or their ability to speak out against the president is being selfish? You are either stupid, or you are being selfish by allowing Trump to subjugate everyone he seems as an enemy.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot so Trump ran on everything you want. Glad you support him.

[OddBeMe]

@seeyounexttuesday You know trump ran a many things I'd agree with. I just don't trust he would maintain law and order as president. And oh! History proved me right!

[seeyounexttuesday]

The deportations have begun already.

[NimbleOcelot]

What he ran on and what he actually does are two different things. Also, as expected of rushing the deportations, they just come back, because he doesn't even take time to confirm if they are illegal, or even where they came from. He has also admitted to rigging the election, and then put a freeze on the DOJ. Also, many of his orders are just straight up illegal.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot you can cry and whine all you want but Trump’s first week was amazing. He delivered on a ton of promises and started dismantling Biden’s fuckups.

[NimbleOcelot]

He literally ended medicaid, snap, etc, paused all government loans illegally, is following Project 2025 per the book, is trying to force his way into a third term admittedly, is cutting us off from the rest of the world, is INCREASING grocery costs, and is trying to threaten Denmark for Greenland. So great. So fantastic. You've been had.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot This is why no one takes you retards seriously. This is why democrats lost the election:

The memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) mentioned that the pause does not affect benefits like Social Security or Medicare, nor does it include assistance provided directly to individuals. SNAP benefits, like Pell Grants, are delivered directly to individuals.

A pause is not an "end". It doesn't include payments given to individuals. Nothing you can prove he's doing increases grocery costs.

You're either a moron or a complete liar. You pick.

[NimbleOcelot]

Except the freeze isn't even what I was talking about with medicaid. I was talking about the caps he intents to put on it, and repealing the ACA.

www.cbpp.org/.../trump-administrations-harmful-changes-to-medicaid

As for the freezes, medicaid portal is down, and you completely ignored the P2025 playlist.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot yeah, because like everything you post, it's complete fantasy. You shitlibs make up things to be mad about. You've been doing it since 2016. It never works, but you're too stupid to realize that.

[NimbleOcelot]

I post literal sources. You post nothing.

[NimbleOcelot]

It doesn't work because you are too stupid to read the facts. I've posted videos, you call them fake, when they aren't even denied by the people you defend. I post sources, you don't read it. You are fucking over my generation because your generation blindly trusts someone who is a known liar.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Since you love to read so much, did you read the tweet by the ADL? You know who they are, right? The anti-defamation league? You know the group that is specifically formed to be on the lookout for antisemitism?

Of course you didn't. Because you just read bullshit lefty garbage.

They specifically stated that at no point did Elon do a nazi salute. There's video evidence of even Tim Walz doing the EXACT same "my heart goes out to you" gesture. But you ignore those.

I would take their opinion on the matter over you dipshit lefty hacks.

[NimbleOcelot]

Please post the video of Waltz.

www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/s/Ib5lBwdc11

Side by side

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot look at alll the nazis

[seeyounexttuesday]

Here's Walz

x.com/TheCCShowcast/status/1882453346717774085

[NimbleOcelot]

That's literally not even close. He has an actual wave, fingers pointed up. Elon had his fingers extended straight out. Holy shit dude, get your head out of your ass.

[NimbleOcelot]

I posted a side by side comparison for you and you posted that bs

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot I posted a pic of FINGERS EXTENDED STRAIGHT OUT!!! OH MY GOD! You are a fucking mental case.

[NimbleOcelot]

It's literally palm fucking forward. Watch your own video you lying hypocrite.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot Ok, another idiot test. Why would the ADL state emphatically that Elon did not do a Nazi salute/?

[NimbleOcelot]

Trust your own fucking eyes. I don't know, or care who the ADL is. The entire rest of the world sees it as a Nazi salute, especially Germany.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@NimbleOcelot so you don’t know who the Anti Defamation League is? You’re that fucking stupid?

[NimbleOcelot]

I don't care, because we have video evidence. Not dealing with your racist ass anymore.

[goaded]

Less than nothing, unless you're a billionaire.

[dustybiker2]

And only then until fired

[exitseven]

If he can get ICE to clean the illegal aliens out of the two hotels near my house I would be happy.

[dustybiker2]

They can't deport citizens. lol

[ProbablyClueless]

@dustybiker2 Illegal aliens aren't citizens.

[dustybiker2]

@ProbablyClueless and citizens aren't illegal aliens

[ProbablyClueless]

@dustybiker2 I think I must have misunderstood the point you were making! lol

[NimbleOcelot]

He'll be too busy bringing in more foreign workers to replace Americans the "legal" way, using H1B.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven why do these hotel migrants bother you so much?

[exitseven]

I live in a small state. Last year the state spent 1.5 billion dollars supporting these freeloaders. The individual cities and towns had to also shell out taxpayer dollars. Meanwhile my town and othger had to cancel capital projects like a new school and reduce services. Many towns including mine had to put a tax override on the ballot last November to get extra funds for services.
It is just a way for democrats to get more votes.
We did not need any of this and it was unnecessary.

[OddBeMe]

Funny. When i research this i see only a few million $$

[exitseven]

nypost.com/.../

[dustybiker2]

@exitseven next you'll be linking the national inquirer. The list goes on...

https://postimg.cc/CZprYqsC

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 The National Inqirer was one of the major sources the democrats had to convict President Trump' It must be an honest publication.

[dustybiker2]

Did they? lol

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 they subpoenaed the editor to testify against Trump.

[dustybiker2]

Interesting. I had not heard this. Kind of an empty source, but, whatever works.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 democrats will use anything to get hat they want. When you think about it there really is not much difference between the National Enquirer and the NY Times.

[dustybiker2]

Not much difference between dems and repubs either in that regard.

[OddBeMe]

@dustybiker2 they supeaonaed them because they were hiding shit for trump.

[dustybiker2]

Facts take shape.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven If you believe a word of the ny post you're dumber than I thought

[dustybiker2]

@OddBeMe In his defense he's not dumb. He's just enjoying retirement. Though the way the next four years go he'll be back to work soon.

[OddBeMe]

@dustybiker2 of course he isn't. As with most trumpers, I call them dumb as in blind to reality.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 I was going to retire 4 years ago and when Biden was elected I thought better of it.

[dustybiker2]

@OddBeMe I know I was just using you to poke him. I'm on a roll lately. Not letting up

@exitseven I hope they hold your place, sir.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven Why would biden have anything to do with you retiring? Unless you mean covid. And who caused that to... go viral?

[exitseven]

I watched prices practically double overnight and had no idea how much higher it would go, Gas was already 5 bucks a gallon. At the same time the stock market was tanking and so was my 401K. I had a good job and was making good money and knew at my age it would be hard to find another one so I worked for a few more years.

[OddBeMe]

Because why? Covid. Who let covid get out of hand?

[NathanDavis]

I've never expected any government to do anything for me...

I would be waiting for a lifetime if I did that...

[goaded]

Roads? Safe air travel? Clean water?

[NathanDavis]

@goaded I definitely would not trust industrial Texas with my drinking water...

I pay Coca~Cola for bottled water instead...

[goaded]

Because Texas doesn't have laws stopping people for poisoning water.

[NathanDavis]

@goaded even at states where there are laws... they still dump it all over the place

[goaded]

Not without consequences. Regulations are things that keep people safe.

[NathanDavis]

@goaded come on... you have a Ukraine flag don't you

you know regulations are just words on paper that mean nothing much to money...

[goaded]

Then you need stronger regulations. Maybe put the occasional CEO in prison.

[NathanDavis]

@goaded I had to check again... lol

you live in Europe...

[goaded]

I know.

What I didn't know was that it's the US who did imprison VW executives over their fraud!

"A former Volkswagen executive has been sentenced to seven years in prison and a $400,000 (£298,778) fine, after admitting he helped the firm evade clean-air laws.

Oliver Schmidt, 48, is the second person to be imprisoned in the US over the diesel emissions scandal."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42256870

In Germany: "A Munich court has handed former Audi CEO Rupert Stadler a suspended jail sentence of one year and nine months for fraud in the 2015 diesel emissions scandal that rocked Volkswagen Group.

The ex-boss was also fined €1.1 million ($1.2 million), which will go to the German government and charities, the court said in a ruling Tuesday. "
edition.cnn.com/.../index.html

[NathanDavis]

@goaded because they didn't bribe the congress enough...

[NathanDavis]

it's what here you call one out of 10...

1 goes to jail.. the other 9 guilty ones remain free

[NimbleOcelot]

So why are you voting someone into power that wants to make sure those regulations mean nothing more than words on paper to the people with money, instead of someone who actually wants to fight against the pollution of our environment?

[NathanDavis]

@NimbleOcelot neither of us vote... don't get it wrong

[NimbleOcelot]

Votes mean something, or the Russians wouldn't have interfered in the election. The votes do mean more at smaller scales, which is why you should vote for decent representation, and not just whoever happens to be in your chosen party.

[NathanDavis]

I had to check... you're 23, lol

you still believe in ideals and ignore the reality... (=

[goaded]

The reality is that not enough people care about the ideals. Things like democracy.

[NathanDavis]

@goaded on that we completely agree... a lot of people don't really care

[exitseven]

I don't expect that either. I just want a government that does not screw up my life too much.

[NathanDavis]

@exitseven something Congress likes to do, a lot... as a whole, no sides in there really

[genericname85]

nothing. exactly like every politician before him. it's basically the job description that you need to be able to shovel money into rich peoples pockeds while managing to make the people believe you're helping them.

[lightbulb27]

Repair finances to keep country going a little longer.

[DryGermanGuy]

He will finally present Barack HUSSEIN! Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya. 🙄

[DrPepper12]

Worsen the planet & everything on it?

[Crazzyyworld]

Basically, he wants to make poor people as a factory slaughter house workers while he run the strip club as a pimp travelling the world making dark deals with people like Kim jung un

[Filthy_Immigrant]

Fix all the chaos your demented pedophile President of yours did to our country

[NimbleOcelot]

He's going to fix all the problems he caused in his first term?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@NimbleOcelot Oh really? Let’s get some facts straight. Under Trump, we had record-low unemployment, energy independence, a booming economy, secure borders, and actual peace deals in the Middle East. Compare that to Biden’s inflation crisis, skyrocketing gas prices, a border catastrophe, and foreign policy failures like Afghanistan. The problems we’re facing now are 100% on Biden and his incompetent administration.

If anything, Trump is coming back to fix the mess Biden created—just like he cleaned up Obama’s failures. Blaming Trump for Biden’s disasters is a pathetic excuse for ignoring the dumpster fire your guy started. Try again.

[NimbleOcelot]

Trump started with 4.7% unemployment, brought it down to 3.5%, before it rose to 6.7% when he left. Then Biden brought that down to 3.4%, lower than Trump's at the lowest, and kept it there. You can blame covid, but at the end of the day, Biden still did better than Trump, even though he had to deal with a post Covid economy.

Also, as for inflation, it rose across the globe, because the rich took advantage of the covid and post covid economies in order to surge prices. You saw them start doing it in 2020, but rather than blame them, you blame Biden.

Here's a more in depth look at the whole thing.

www.freep.com/.../

Also note that Trump made a tax plan that was great for the lower classes, and bad for the upper classes, INITIALLY. After four years, after Biden took office, it swapped to lower taxes for the rich and raise them for the poor and middle classes. Everything Trump has done has been to make himself look good in the short term, to ensure he'd get into office again, where he'd really wreck things for poor. He played the long con and got all of you fooled. And most people who don't care too much about politics ignored that Trump was busy dismantling the institutions that protect you during his first term. Even after he already flip-flopped on all of his promises before his new term even started, you all still defend him, and it's sad.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@NimbleOcelot Oh, so now a random online article is your "proof"? That’s cute. Anyone can find a biased article that aligns with their narrative—it doesn’t make it true. If you want to prove your point, show me hard data, official records, or credible sources—not an opinion piece written to push a political agenda.

Here’s the reality: Trump brought record-low unemployment, energy independence, and peace deals. Biden brought inflation, open borders, and chaos. No amount of cherry-picked articles will change that. Try again.

[NimbleOcelot]

Random? Any article I pull up will say the same thing. Where are your sources? I literally just posted something, and you can't disagree with facts, as much as you'd like to. You made the claim, you have to prove it. I already proved you wrong. Not to mention we have Trump literally saying he can't or won't do anything he promised, even to the point of bringing in more immigrants to replace American workers, which was like the main thing people who voted for him were against. Straight from his own mouth.

[NimbleOcelot]

This isn't an area you can just post opinions on. If you want me to fact check, you need to fact check first.

[NimbleOcelot]

I'm not going to waste any more time trying to find the perfect article for you, just for you to ignore it so that you don't have to change your opinion, like you've already proven you will do.

[NimbleOcelot]

If you actually read what I posted to you, you'd see that it has stats and references. But if that's too hard when you don't want to be proven wrong.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@NimbleOcelot Wow, quite the novel, but it’s still missing one thing: actual proof. You keep claiming you’ve provided evidence, but all you’ve done is spam biased articles and opinions that don’t back your claims. Saying ‘I already proved you wrong’ doesn’t make it true—where’s the hard evidence?

Also, let’s address your nonsense about Trump ‘not doing anything.’ Under Trump, we had record-low unemployment, energy independence, secure borders, and historic peace deals. Biden, on the other hand, gave us inflation, open borders, and skyrocketing crime. So who exactly isn’t delivering on promises?

If you want to debate facts, come back with something credible. Until then, all your storytelling is just noise.

[Sevenpointfive]

stop making educated people pay off education is a start. biden knew that.

[Anonymous]

keep you from having a good night sleep as he lives rent free in your head

[Anonymous]

Cheaper gas, food, less crime, no wars, deport illegals. Everything this country needs right now.

[LaureenVO]

"No wars" After Trump has announced that he is willing to take Greenland by force if needed, sure... This man wants world peace for sure

[Still-alive]

So what will you do when absolutely none of that happens?

[Nerdvana]

Nothing. But to be fair, most politicians don't do anything for me either.

[Still-alive]

I mean he eat unhealthily and getting quite up their in age... so what he can do for me is...

[Godihateyou]

The only reason I voted for him is because the left promised he was Hitler and he would destroy Democracy so hopefully. He is and does.

[captain_voidwalker]

Lower gas prices, which will have a knock on effect at lowering all prices.

[Kingofkings1992]

It would take at least eight years to undo the damage that fucktard Biden has done.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Ruin our economy with his retarded tariffs !!!

[Anonymous]

Make America healthy again like he promised, so far, he's kept that promise and has selected Kennedy to head HHS.

[douride2]

Me personally. Not a thing.

[Agape93]

Nothing

[AndreeaScker]

Grab me by the pussy, hopefully

[dustybiker2]

lmfao

[Nerdvana]

@andreeascker lol hahahahahah. You are funny girl.

[Red_Arrow]

I have been following you for a long time, but recently noticed that I have not been seeing your recent posts. So I got on your page and clicked on a bunch of your posts to see them and comment. That is why you may notice a lot of opinions and comments from me now. I don't know why they did not show when you actually posted them.

[AndreeaScker]

@Red_Arrow hey! Glad to read you again! Didn't see any comments yet. Only reactions xx

[Red_Arrow]

Maybe it is your profile picture that keeps bringing me back. lol

[LiamJHayden]

Hopefully just stay out of my way.

[4ngelic]

creating wrinkles

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Very little

[DaBiggestBird]

Make America Great Again

[Staximus]

Make liberals cry

[John_And_Elijah]

Punch you in the face as a favor.

[OddBeMe]

Thats really the only reason isn't? Screw the libs is your life. Lol

[Hellraiser1984]

Screw up the whole world. Hitler redux

[dougeats]

Cause me anxiety for 4 years

[robocop666]

he is funny and annoys liiberals

[SleepingHazard]

My laundry?

[Anonymous]

“Will” lol

[standardguy]

Brake woke?

[zombiewoof]

Nothing