Id argue christianity is the best, with secular humanism a jointed close second, because secular humanism borrows from Christianity, and sometimes christian and secular cultural exchange leads to a better society. But Paganism, is the most double edged sword, can be destructive or enduring.
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secular humanism is fighting the immoral artefacts of christianity, which we're still dealing with. christianity is a drag on our progress towards a more moral and more fair society ofr everyone. i don't see how it provides any value in that regard tbh unless maybe as a "bad example".
@Theodish_Warrior Pagan civilizations struggled to sustain themself, only a few made it past 1,000 years. Most Christian civilizations thrive 500-1400+ years
@Theodish_Warrior true "progressive egalitarian" condoning slavery and promoting holocusts for non believers. lol.
@WilliamPamer446 yeah that can be a side effect of the societal stockholm syndrome. if you fear a delusional idea more than your physically real enemy, that can provide peace in a sense, i guess.
Your only focused on the negatives of Christianity, Humanism borrows from Christianity. Your not respecting Christianity so I won't respect ur claims until you do. America was built on a mutual respect between Christians and secular humanists. U ignoring Islam and Pagan slavery which postmodern christian critics seem to conventionally leave out half the time. Crusades was rewritten by Marxist globalist AntiChristians.
of course i'm focused on the negatives, cause these negatives can't be removed with anything positive. these negatives are still there. you've just decided to ignore them.
@Theodish_Warrior the bible explicitly condones slavery in:
Exodus 21:2-11: Regulates Hebrew slavery, allowing Israelites to sell themselves into slavery for debt repayment, with provisions for release after six years for Hebrew slaves.
Leviticus 25:44-46: Permits Israelites to acquire slaves from foreign nations and treat them as property to be inherited by their children, making them slaves for life.
Deuteronomy 15:12-18: Requires the release of Hebrew slaves after six years of service, with additional instructions for their welfare upon release.
Exodus 21:7-11: Details the treatment of female slaves, particularly those sold by their fathers.
Numbers 31: After the conquest of the Midianites, Moses instructs the Israelites on how to divide captured women and children as property.
Deuteronomy 20:10-11: When attacking a city, Israelites are instructed to offer the inhabitants the option of becoming slaves to avoid destruction.
Genesis 9:18-27, Genesis 12:5, Genesis 16:1-9, Genesis 17:12-13, Genesis 20:14: Various references to the acquisition and treatment of slaves by biblical patriarchs
Ephesians 6:5-9: Instructs slaves to obey their earthly masters as they would obey Christ.
Colossians 3:22–4:1: Advises slaves to obey their masters and masters to treat slaves justly and fairly.
1 Timothy 6:1-2: Urges slaves to respect their masters so that God's name is not blasphemed.
Titus 2:9-10: Instructs slaves to be submissive to their masters in everything.
1 Peter 2:18-20: Tells slaves to submit to their masters, even those who are harsh.
that's the old and the new testament. you don't seem to read the bible much.
since you apparently don't read the bible, i can only advise you not to read the bible if you actually wanna stay with that faith. cause i don't think there's anything that turned more people atheist than the horrible atrocities written in the bible.
@Theodish_Warrior "Isn't it funny how the vast majority of your examples come from the old testament the philosophically retarded" almost half of my quotes were from the new testament and what exactly is it about the old testament you have a problem with when the bible clearly states that litterally everything in the "old" testament is still relevant and valid and not irellevant cause it's old at all. i can really see how you're not a christian. you don't know jack shit about christianities doctron nor the church.
@Theodish_Warrior you claimed there is no excplicit condoning of slavery in the bible. you were lying cause there's several and i showed 11 of them from the old and from the new testament. now you're claiming the bible condemned slavery when there's actually not a single line in the entire bible that explicitly condems slavery. either you just don't know shit or you're a lier. what is it?
@Theodish_Warrior you're either missinformed or lying again. the new testament wasn't a "correction" of the old testasment. it was a "fullfillment" of the old testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" (Matthew 5:17). the old testament is referenced many times in the new testament. "it is written" refering to the fact that the old testament is still the Authoritative basis for the new testament. the new testament was built upon the old testament. not to replace, abolish or to correct it but to double down on it. you telling me irl you'D have knowcked my teeth out shows how much of a fucking retard you are turning to violence when you're clearly being wrong. that's really a pathetic display of a horrible character my dude.
@Theodish_Warrior i have actually studied social science at a university. have you? or are you just using that argument to win a stupid online debate about a topic you already demonstrated great ignorance about.
@Theodish_Warrior also: if you actually managed to sucker punch my teeth out, you'd find yourself waking up in hospital not remembering what happened. can't suggest to try that.
I think the best societies mix traditions together in a friendly and harmonious way. Google all the racist and religiously intolerant countries you can think of, and you will see there is a correlation between xenophobia and societal poverty.
It's mostly fuck Christianity let Jews pagan and Islam edgily fight eachother to dominate
I believe the bible says Christianity was designed to modify personal behaviour, rather than collectively limiting or ruling over others and their lifestyles. The bible says you should be so busy trying to change yourself you never get around to micromanaging the non Christians around you. Rabbi Simon Jacobson says, “the God you do not believe in, I do not believe in either.” I do not worship a cruel and hateful God, if someone says they do not believe in a cruel and hateful God, I will say, “I do not believe in that kind of God either.”
How u know that and that wasn't my point I meant religious diversity can't hinder Christianity that's hypocritical there needs to be true mutual respect I'm a libertarian Christian not a authoritarian and they do restrict christian value behavior modern culture devalue life
Sorry if I came off as rude.
I do not have experience with political causes, but I do believe societal Harmony through diverse co-existence, is the keystone to fairness and kindness in the political sphere.
True that's part of it but you also need unifying social values. I was asking which religion or philosophy does it the best. I have Christianity and secular Humanism props for doing it the best
@Theodish_Warrior I agree
@Theodish_Warrior I'm a christian but I see your point
India and Egypt cultures still Exist