I live in a state with strict gun regulations, and just a generally more intelligent population (still PLENTY of idiots, lmao, but then I see other states and Iâm like âOH. Ok. Iâm actually fortunate.â😂).
Weâre known for higher education, technology, and medicine. Pretty sure weâre doing things right here, lmfao, no matter how much the right tries to paint us as âcrazy.â Weâre always ranked in the Top 10, if not Top 5, of pretty much everything good, and Bottom 10, if not Bottom 5, of pretty much everything bad. Traffic notwithstanding, that absolutely sucks, lmao, but thatâs just more evidence that people WANT to be here. Consistently rated as one of the best places to live in America.
Our rate of gun violence here is wicked low. Again, I think intelligent people are probably less likely to have any fascination with weaponry or have this crazy mentality that a crime is lurking around every corner just waiting to victimize you. Like weâre frankly too smart to get caught up in that ridiculous child-brained bullshit. We either recognize that the need for a gun is wildly overstated, or if we choose to arm ourselves, itâs not for some performative âtough guyâ reason, itâs just âBreak glass in case of emergency.â
At the risk of being rude, I think people are just dumber in other parts of the country, broadly, both educationally AND culturally. Like the number one thing I think about conservatives is that theyâre primitive, like a few evolutionary steps behind the rest of us. They just donât âand intellectually CANâTâ âget it.â Thatâs whatâs so frustrating about it all, theyâre just dumb (whether intellectually, culturally, or both) and wonât hear reason. And the smart people are probably outnumbered 80%/20%, which is the most frightening part.
Anyway, point is: we donât have a strong âgun cultureâ in my state. We get called âliberal moonbatsâ by conservatives (surprised these people can even spell or formulate thoughts and words at all, lmfao), but weâre kicking ass, and along with the other blue states, our people and businesses generate enough GDP to carry several other red states. Hey, South and MidwestâŚ. YOUâRE WELCOME. And weâre TINY compared to most of these places.
Red states not bringing a lot to the table aside from Texas and Florida, who just locationally fell ass backwards into economic solvency due to oil and tropical beaches, respectivelyâŚ. Without that, youâve got a desert and some swampland.
Or maybe thatâs a poor choice of wordsâŚ. red states bring our dinner to the table, through agriculture and ranching. And all respect due, thatâs good, honest, essential work, no less important than doctors or engineers. Iâm not trying to trash the way anyone makes a living. I truly appreciate that, and if I was seeing more enlightened and decent social attitudes out of their regions, I wouldnât be speaking with such a sharp tongue. But know your lane and understand how you got there, and what you DIDNâT have to do to arrive.
Not educating yourself past high school and not leaving the area youâre from is going to leave you with a TON of blind spots. So know that you have them, is all Iâm saying, and adjust the certainty levels in your beliefs accordingly. If someone asked me how to raise a field of corn, Iâd shut the fuck up and defer to the guy who took his prom picture in front of a tractor, lmfao.
Does this mean the next shooting canât be in Boston? Certainly not. Minneapolis is an educated city as well. Someone can just snap, no matter where they are. This is more of a federal issue than a local one.
I donât know. A lot of Americans are very entitled, and think theyâre entitled to safety and comfort at all times and in all venues. BuddyâŚ. this is LIFE ON EARTH. Itâs perilous by nature. You arenât supposed to have that level of control. Of course we donât like it, but again, thatâs life, and what we âwantâ isnât really the deciding factor about anything.
AnywayâŚ. terrible tragedy. All that really matters are the victims and their families. Iâm SURE theyâll make it about how the shooter was trans, because of course they will, theyâre idiots, lmao. But when itâs some right wing white guy, itâll be the same sorry excuse: âGuns donât kill people; people kill people.â Cool. So we agree humans have a homocidal streak in themâŚ. why would we arm them in that case? There are no âgood guysâ and âbad guysâ, ultimately, only âfundamentally flawed humans.â And I donât trust fundamentally flawed humans to own weaponry like guns. And weâll never get rid of guns, but we can make it real uncomfortable to have them, legally or illegally.
They already put forward the fact that it was a trans person. It was obvious that they were going to put that forward. While forgetting the attacks committed by white Christians.
They only generalize when it suits them.
I know I'm not an American, but I always wonder why Americans go berserk when you talk to them about better regulation of firearms, better regulation doesn't mean prohibition.
While I generally agree with your posts and comments, I have to point out that the US is not anywhere near the top 10 in a lot of things that matter or at least matter to the gen pop. And with today's CDC announcements, and the cutbacks in research, the FDA, OSHA, the Clean Water and the Clean Air acts, and defunding FEMA, it's all about to get much worse.
Your neighborhood, or city, or even state, may have less of a gun culture than other areas. But the USA as a whole IS a gun culture. It has more guns than people. It's #1 in that. It's also #1 in Child Deaths by Gun Violence. #1 in incarcerated population, #1 in maternity deaths for industrialized nations, and #1 in Health Care expenditures per capita with the least positive outcomes.
The USA is also #1 in "Wealth Disparity", where the fewest number of people have the MOST wealth. Guns are big business. The gun lobby pays off the most important and powerful people on the committees that govern gun law change. Nothing is going to happen anytime soon.
The media will go crazy spewing how "this was a trans person" and demonize that even more while forgetting all the death caused by cis, white, right-wing males. So here it comes, yet again.
@julie07 yup, thatâs indeed the predictable angle they took.
A guy I watch on YouTube put it better than I was going to: they donât care about the victims; only the perpetrators. We saw the same thing with a young woman named Laken Riley, who was tragically murdered. No argument there. But where they go goofy with it is that MANY women are sadly murdered by men in this country, and it doesnât generate any buzz. But this particular woman, we know her name over the others, not because she was killed, but because of WHO killed her. The murderer in that case was an undocumented immigrantâŚ.. so thatâs somehow different and worse, I guessđ¤ˇââď¸ The conservatives (against the wishes of the Riley family) invoked her name at every turn for their own political narratives, even naming a bill after her, which is obviously disgusting.
2nd amendment is to be protected no matter what and that's just my stance. Now to question gun ownership on the other hand... that's something I think we can talk about. Expecially after this rash of mentally ill trans that are fully grown going into schools to attack little kids.
Meet Robert... I mean Robin... your latest school shooter.
Love how the media tried to hide this again, but they told on themselves again. I found out about 10min. after it happened, so if I know, I know they knew. I don't even live near that State. School shootings happen like this all the time that they don't talk about at all, basically because they're black. Go ahead and fact check that and you'll become aware of the media bias... Media aside though...
Guns don't kill people, people do. Remember Shinzo Abe... homemade shotgun... that made gun control arguments irrelevant. Also if the teachers were packing heat, then the threat would've been put down a lot faster... just saying. Bottom line is you can go banning shit and before long we'll just be like the Brits where we ban prayer or potato peelers. We need to start looking at who's buying the guns and be aware that yes, we could take guns out of the hands of people that obey the law, but that won't stop criminals at fucking all and just make them worse. An armed society is a polite society.
It's a very complex issue, and I'd only talk it out with someone that shows some intelligence about it. Otherwise I'll just show them pictures of all my guns and slip a dick picture in.
Apparently a lot more deaths. Dunno about questioning gun ownership, but certainly questioning whether or not weâre mature enough for sensible gun laws and/or restrictions. I mean shit, itâs the guns silly!! Too many guns, too easy to acquire, period full stop. Weâre the only developed country with this insane self-inflicted problem. Itâs endemic and unfortunately part of our culture.
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About as many stabbings, acid tossings, car ramming into crowds, rapes, home invasions and robberies as Europe can take before they stop neutering forms of self defense. I guarantee you I'm safer here with my guns if criminals come here knocking on my door, than you are.
Not going to insult you at all. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
When will address the mental health crisis in this country. This guy transitioned to a girl because everyone has to be ok with it. If his parents pushed bad the government would take the kid away. In his own words. He was brainwashed and didnât want to be a girl anymore but he feared the pushback if he tried to be a boy again. He was mentally unstable and feared that once transitioned he couldnât go back so he ended his life. If he didnât have guns he could have used home made explosives, he could have barricaded the whole building and set it on fire, or waited to school let out and itâs plowed a car through a whole bunch of children. There are hundreds of ways to kill people if guns are not available. To be honest only 2 children were killed (that 2 too many) but with explosives, fire or a car he could have done even more damage.
And letâs not forget that itâs ALWAYS a gun that stops these mentally ill people. There are millions of defensive uses of guns a year. These are uses that saves lives. Take away all the guns from citizens and the only people to have them will be the criminals and gangs. Do you really believe thatâll be much safer for the citizens? Letâs work on the mental illness in this country, letâs put an armed security officer in every school (like we do in banks) and letâs get rid of soft targets better known as âgun free zonesâ. We know only law abiding citizens read that sign.
How about we enforce the hundreds of gun laws that have been on the books for decades, that everyone dances around as if they are not there? They are just ignored, so the left can say we need more laws and ban guns
Which laws are those? Most âlawsâ made by the left to control guns are not constitutional. As an example the carry laws in Ny were so bad that only friends of politicians or politicians themselves could carry. The Bruen case blew up NYs law about conceal carry. NJ folded right after that without a fight (NJ knew they were wrong). Mental illness is the problem. Guns have been around for hundreds of years with minimal problems like this.
Checkout this out:
The 2023 Covenant School shooting in Nashville: The perpetrator, who was a former student of the Christian elementary school, was a transgender man.
The 2025 Minneapolis church shooting: The perpetrator in this August 2025 incident was identified as a transgender woman.
The 2019 STEM School Highlands Ranch shooting: One of the two shooters in this Denver-area incident was a transgender man.
The 2018 Maryland Rite Aid warehouse shooting: The assailant was a transgender woman.
Between federal and state legislation, thereâs already plenty of rules surrounding who can buy, sell and use firearms. Literally everyone who suggests otherwise is just plain dumb. There are failures of enforcement, but by and large the vast majority of gun crime is committed by established criminals. Thereâs literally no way to prevent that. We have laws against all kinds of murder, people still get murdered. We have laws against drugs. People still buy, sell and use drugs. We have laws against r*pe. People still get r*ped. The problem with your insinuation is that it ALWAYS leads to anti-gun nuts demanding bans that only prevents law abiding citizens from protecting themselves, their families and their property from criminals who donât observe the fantasies of the democrat partyâs âgun free zoneâ signs. As long as the lunatic left in particular refuses to do anything meaningful about violent offenders, law abiding citizens will have to be out of their minds to give up their constitutional right to protect themselves from criminals and the corrupt government that protects them.
We poured and keep pouring trillions of dollars into The Middle East which it never changes and is hopeless of a cause for others and their interests. America isnât Middle Eastern, we are slaves to The Middle East regardless of side we choose to fund or attack or threaten or collaborate with because it is the same useless interest.
I want us to put the same effort we do for external conflicts into passage of gun requirements and gun restrictions similar to the DMV along with increasing the age of citizens to purchase a firearm also a mental health screening prior to being allowed an AR-15 or anything that can k-ll innocent children in mere minutes.
How many victims? How many deaths? How many suffering family members? Being told your child didnât make it due to a bullet is heartbreaking. We never said to take away guns, we only say to have a rational solution.
After 9/11 we restricted air travel , we put up rules in reforms , and we took a stand as a country healing from a devastating issue with our American flags held high in 2001 wondering how do we pick up the pieces and letâs move on together ! Though I donât see the same about the innocent children who die every week, month, year.
You have a right to your gun as a responsible gun owner, we just want mentally unwell young men from accessing firearms and punishments to those who give their gun out to a family or friend who engages in a shooting that takes away innocent human life. This is what we want and the nation deserves. Thereâs got to be a compromise. Thereâs always a compromise.
@julie07 Idc about the backlash or the insults you get because you have good intentions. You are a good person and this is a real crisis. Lives are at stake every second, minute, hour we donât come together to fix this as Americans.
At the same time, everybody has to look at the picture the way it really is.
Just because we have a gun design in , we have to use it
It means it has to be put up to where nobody can touch it
You have to look at people in your life all around you. Who's the crazy one who's the 1 this lot stable? If they find that gun? What's going to happen
That is like having a car.\nIf nobody has the keys, nobody can use it. If it doesn't have any gas nobody can go anyplace if it's not license or insured nobody can use it If it doesn't have tires on it or motor oil in it , nobody can use it
Because nobody has access to it or if they do have access to it , one of the above cyrios makes it so we can't use it
Guns have to be the same way. We have to think further than what we are thinking
If there's an easy access to it people are going to find that access and use it
If you leave your keys on the counter top, somebody can take them and wants you're car bad enough. They will work to get some money to put gas in it or oil in it or put tires on it. Because. They want it so bad for one reason. And one reason only so they will do whatever it takes
But if you make it , so there is no access to it , no matter what , you always have another checklist in place in nothing will happen
Put your guns in a safe place that nobody can touch them
There are unstable people. In this world that will do anything to get access to your car. To your gun to your car keys. To hurt themselves to hurt other people don't allow them to have access
This is copy paste from a different post asking the same question because it applies here too
I think we've reached a point where schools need either soldiers or professional armed officers in all schools on guard duty. Three officers or soldiers per school would make dealing with a shooter pretty easy and a lot faster than the cops could get there from the police station. They'll obviously have to have stunning records to work in the schools since it's their job to protect children but I think we've reached the point where this is the best course of action and necessary.
I don't care what happens to a kid if he goes school shooter mode. If his parents didn't want their son to be shot and killed when he's trying to kill others then they should have watched him closer and raised him better so as far as I'm concerned having three armed and professionally trained men like swat or national guard to kill a school shooter the moment they start there will be a lot less dead kids overall.
Another potential option is to make it so that schools have to be withing 2 blocks of a police station or less but that would be a lot more complicated because it would have to be a building code that was spread across the whole nation and it would become an absolute nightmare for urban planning and development and probably cost billions.
Armed guards would not work for various reasons and also introduces additional risks. Instead of trying to address the symptom, of limiting the damage of school shooters, I think it is far more productive to address the root cause considering USA is the only country in the world that I know has these problems and thereby is obviously doing something wrong and is something that can be addressed.
@Syntosi I don't see any problems this could cause that would outweigh the benefits. What do you recommend if not this? As far as I'm concerned this is the simplest most effective way of doing it.
I recommend gun control, but the problem in this case is not entirely the guns themselves, they are just the simplest problem to solve first and even that is going to take decades to try recover, register and build up a system to certify who can be trusted with guns and who can't.
The bigger issue is that American culture has become infected with a certain degree of gun worship and fetishization that I believe is the larger issue.
The widespread access of guns in USA is a problem in and of itself but criminals and bad actors in other countries can also gain access to guns if they want to but they oftentimes dont even when it is an option. There is a mental difference in how an American behaves and thinks compared to the rest of the world and if you want to change that mindset and culture then you are gonna have to work on it for generations.
@Syntosi Gun control won't help. Gun contro only stops normal people from getting guns and it always only will. If someone is messed up enough in the head they want to do a mass murder they'll find a way to get a gun. Hell most school shooters get their guns illigally if they don't get them at home. Even if they can't get a gun then they'd just find another way to do it. you can google how to make a bomb and arson is as easy as blocking doors and gasoline with a match if you do things right. Gun control won't fixt this and all that does is give the goverment and excuse to crack down on our rights even more. This is a societal and mental health issue and the solution is two fold. 1 help kids before they do something like this. 2. Shoot them before they shoot someone else. I don't care if you're a five-year-old if you're shooting at me with a gun I'm going to try and kill you right back.
I would argue that the biggest problem IS that "normal people" has guns. It has normalized the idea of guns and also created a perverse gun culture within the population which I believe is the heart of the issue why USA has issues with mass shootings and nobody else does.
Other countries has mentally ill people. Other countries also has guns. The only truly unique difference between USA and those countries that does not have these problems is the American gun culture.
Trying to stop them in the act of a mass shooting just is not realistic. We can put aside all the issues with armed guards and just focus on the response time. It takes literal seconds to go from "everything is normal" to unacceptable amounts of casualties. Even if there is an armed guard in the room next over, chances are that would still be too late.
@Syntosi Gun culture goes everywhere guns go and that's just a fact. Do you really think an Italian doesn't feel as bold with a pistol on his hip as an American is. Guns are tools of violence, they attract violent people, but they are also necessary in many ways for many reasons. You know what the difference is between us and these countries? It has nothing to do with gun culture it's a mental health issue and we know this because all the countries with guns that don't have this problem have social programs and system to help the people that feel so lost they would do something like this. They have shootings and mass stabbings over there too in fact there are more stabbings in some parts of Europe than America.
There is a significant difference between American gun culture and literally everyone else. There is a difference between how an American thinks about guns and how an American views guns.
Again, other countries has the same mental health issue that USA has but it does not manifest itself as gun violence.
Also, you bringing up mass stabbings is a good example of how they approach violence differently. These people who went on mass stabbings could have chosen to buy a guy, legally or not, but they did not. And as a result the damage they cause to society is much more limited. Downgrading a mass shooting to a mass stabbing is a good sign of success in this case.
I am BY NO MEANS, ANY kind of a gun lover but, it has almost NOTHING to do with gun ownership!! My dad had a gun most of his adult life! From what I recall, he only ever took it out to shoot it 3 or for times just for a little target practice! His mother also had a gun, she never used it, as far as I know. My brother had loads of guns but would ONLY ever shoot them at targets in the woods or at a shooting range. If a criminal wants a gun, he/she's GOING to get one no matter what restrictions are on the guns!! THOSE are the people you have to worry about!! The responsible gun owners are nothing to be afraid of and can actually SAVE lives! A few years ago there was a church service being held in Texas when, some nut case stood up and started trying to shoot people in the church!! He MIGHT'VE got off a shot or two and wounded someone but there were at least 3 other guys in the church (for the service) that had guns on them and they all shot at and killed that nut case before he could do any real damage!! Had those 3 guys not been armed, several people would've died that day!!
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I question the closing of mental health hospitals. I question the overprescription of drugs that mess with people's ability to think clearly and act rationally. I question the daily onslaught of division amongst the people by all forms of media which we are unfortunately addicted to. I question the spread of anger and hatred toward anyone who has different thoughts than we do thanks to that media.
There are hundreds of millions of guns in the USA, and almost none of them will ever be used to commit murder or other violent crimes. The problem is clearly not with the guns themselves, but with the mindset of the few people who abuse them.
Now, I'm old enough to remember when leftists tried to push "red flag gun laws" onto the American people, with one of the "red flags" being if a person was a Trump supporter. With "genius" ideas like that, it's no wonder that we the people are fighting back against unconstitutional gun limitations. For a real and rational discussion, political bullshit like that needs to be taken off the table.
The real discussion begins when people wanting change, are willing to accept that just because someone has different beliefs than them, does NOT make them "literally a nazi".
@Syntosi Please offer a workable solution that we are looking for to stop this besides stop all gun sales and banning guns where only the bad guy can get guns. What is your master plan for this?
@onedarkcloud Well there are a few things I can think of off the top of my head. First of all, gun violence is heavily correlated with previous records of animal abuse and domestic abuse. Sure, they might still be able to get guns if they tried hard enough since USA has neglected gun control for too long but since a lot of these are not necessarily premeditated to this degree it would also mean that many would not seek out a gun in particular beforehand.
In my opinion however the biggest issue is not necessarily the guns themselves, those can in theory be managed, the bigger issue is the quite frankly sick gun culture in USA which makes Americans repeatedly and reliably go for using guns where people in other countries explicitly chooses other means of violence even when guns are legal and available.
@Syntosi, There are over three hundred and fifty million guns in America. We do not go for the guns for the first reach; if we did, there would be tens of thousands of deaths each year, so that analogy of reaching for guns first does not hold water. . Even if they banned all gun sales, I can go to just about any corner and buy a.22 or M1A1 ABRAMS TANK, so only the bad guys will have weapons, plus I can go in my basement and build an old-fashioned ZIP gun!. Our government, about 40 years ago, closed more than half of all mental health hospitals, so animal cruelty, etc if it is to be used, we would need tens of thousands of qualified people to try to track such people and try to help them As a telco repaire man I woked in mental haspitals and I can tell you that you con not tell the patients from the so called doctors. AS for other countries, they have a population of 15, maybe 20 million against 350 to 400 million, so their numbers are lower; of course, they are 10 to 15 %of the population we have, so that does not hold water, and murders are still committed with steak knives. What are we going to do next, ban steak knives next?
@onedarkcloud You can go buy guns in most countries with varying degrees of paperwork. This is not an actual real obstacle if you were determined to acquire a gun to murder people, especially if you want to argue for the illegal market being such a commonly available thing.
All of these hypothetical arguments for how someone could come-by or build guns is just as true in every other country and if we take your other argument that only having the "bad guys" armed would increase crime.. then why is this not true for other nations?
Other countries abolished their own mental asylums too. Other countries has poverty. Other countries has drugs. Other countries has mental illness crisis. But no other country has this manifest in a sharp increase in gun violence quite like USA. USA is entirely unique in this respect and every factor you have brought up just does not explain this difference.
@Syntosi Again, look at the numbers 15 to 20 million vs 350 to 400 million. Of course, there is going to be a tremendous gap. Basically, our population is about the same as Europe combined, and murder numbers ebb and flow with many factors; not one stands out over the other in the long run
@onedarkcloud If you want to look at Europe combined then go ahead. However, population does not really explain the difference either since other countries with large populations does not really have more gun violence than other countries with small populations. Like Japan with its 123 million or Germany with its 84 million.
And yes, there are obviously other factors that shape the daily ups and downs of American gun violence rate but none of them explain why USA has so much higher than any other country. Again, USA is unique and by a very significant margin. Something that can't just be ignored or explained by "larger than average" normal parameters.
Furthermore, gun violence in USA is rising. Furthermore, mass shootings in particular has been increasing rapidly In 2015 there was 331 mass shootings, in 2023 that went up to 659.
Nobody else in the world has these insanely high numbers, it is entirely an American problem which is born from something uniquely American.
@Syntosi, one glaring problem is that the AMERICA LAST DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA defunds the police, and now some police departments are almost losing a quarter of their officers who investigate these problems that now go on the back burner and are forgotten, and in New York, if Momdani becomes Mayor, he wants to declare NO MORE are small crimes are not to be arrestable. Great, anyone can walk into any store, steal, and walk out and not be liable to arrest. OH HOW GREAT THAT WILL BE! DEFUND THE POLICE. Yeah, send in the social workers to take care of that and the murders, rapes, domestic abuse robberies. This is when you will really see the gun come out to protect and defend their families, lives, and property, since our laws won't.
@onedarkcloud The police was never defunded and they have more resources and manpower available than pretty much any other country in the world. Again, that is not the reason why USA suffers from its unique condition and giving the police even more is not going to produce the results you want.
Also, in regards to the police investigating "small crimes", they dont do that in other countries either. The police is not going to open up a full investigation because a child stole candy from a store.
Again, not the reason why USA is suffering so abnormally since other countries do the same thing and does not suffer these supposed side-effects.
@Syntosi, let's get one thing settled once and for all: most major cities ' police have been defunded. Like NYC defunded over a billion dollars, California defunded billions from the police, Minneapolis defunded, Washington State, Oregon State defunded, and other states defunded or money shifted from police to Social workers, or into democratic pockets
@onedarkcloud The decrease in funding levels for police in various major cities that I know of is negligible. They are still vastly over funded by other nations standards and considering the fact that crime is falling overall it also does not appear like they need the additional funding.
@Syntosi, it is the problem you jumped over, losing a billion dollars in funding, which is on the order of the loss of five to eight thousand police officers. Wow, I do not know a police force that could afford to lose that many police, plus the retirement of hundreds of police. What do you consider a reasonable number: 20, 50, 100, or five thousand? Here in NYC, police are forced to work OVERTIME THAT IS OVERTIME between 10 to 15 hours per week, so from $50 per hour it is now $75 per hour [ probably more at real their, real wages], where are the savings to the cities, not a problem? Where I come from, it is a MAJOR PROBLEM you are talking about billions in overtime, monies taken from other needs like food, clothing, shelter for the homeless vets, and luxury hotels, and credit cards for meals for illegals. I guess for you it is not a problem here in the real world IT IS A PROBLEM!!!
As you can see here, there has not been that major of a change in funding or police officers in NYPD up until 2022, as an example. Also, for the record, 2024 is an increase on 2022.
@Syntosi, where are the police? We are still missing cops. Minimal increases have been made here. Washington State is telling people the officer may arrive in a day or two due to the lack of police officers resulting from defunding and not enough social workers. In Chicago, 54 people were shot, seven were dead, in a weekend police were defunded years ago. Yes, there are about ten cities with worse numbers, both red and blue; we do not hear much about them. One city at a time should be cleaned up, but the mayors and governors refuse help because it is Trump offering. The governors of Illinois and California have both used the National Guard this year to maintain order, but it is ok for them, but for others, it is a military takeover. Which we all know is bullshittery at the Dems' finest, screwing their constituents
@onedarkcloud If you are still missing cops when you have more cops and a larger budget than before and more than other cities and other countries then perhaps the problem is not the resources but rather the inefficiency and corruption inside the institution. Again, the budget and the personnel is not the issue and never was.
Also, if you want to talk about Trump having soldiers picking up trash at the side of the road in DC for millions of dollars a day then you are making a bigger argument for defunding police than I am because that is not the job that a police officer should be doing, much less a soldier.
I'm pretty convinced the number of nutters in the population has disproportionately increased as a percentage.
Nutters shouldn't have guns or knives or cars for that matter. Recently a guy killed a lot of people at a shopping mall with a knife. In an older instance a guy killed a lot of people with his car in a pedestrian. mall.
Why there are more nutters now is a difficult question. It is not guns, it is nutters that kill and they will kill with anything.
Guns make it very easy to kill however. The guy with the knife had to run people down to kill them.
As a farm boy, guns have always been a big part of my life but I do think Australia did the right thing in restricting gun ownership because there were were more & more mass shootings occurring. There hasn't been one mass shooting since guns were restricted.
Not going to happen. The US solution to the problem of too many guns, has always been more guns. Get ready for fully automated sentry guns in schools. Even with current acoustic gunshot detection, camera and AI technology, it would be perfectly possible to create a system that can instantly detect a gunshot, and identify and target the shooter. It would be pricey, but that's never really a problem - you just know that if Elon Musk made it, he'd get the government to buy it (look at the billions he's made from government contracts and subsidies). It sounds insane and dystopian, but it's going to happen within the next decade or so.
I'll keep my right to protect myself and my family over your fucking obsession with government overreach and total control over the population.
I am sickened by this story. I wish the shooter an eternity in hell. BUT, it is interesting how all of wokie do-gooders crawl out of the woodwork for stories like this, which are about EVIL HUMANS and they only focus on guns. If only the government would enslave the people and take away all of their guns.
Yet you have NOTHING to say... NOTHING over the tens of thousands of shootings and murders that go on in these hood, project areas of inner cities where thugs and punks use ILLEGAL BLACK MARKET GUNS to robs, murder, terrorize every day.
You don't seem to care about all of the guns the criminals keep and use. You just want the entire population to be weak, defenseless sitting ducks to appease your do-gooder complex.
not going to insult you. As an American it is my right to have a gun which is granted to me by our constitution. Giving up that right would be very hard. If people want to kill someone they will do it even if they do not have a gun. Road rage, knives, bats or whatever. In Japan a guy went crazy and stabbed a bunch of people. An hour from where I live a guy drove from out of state to a town where they were having a celebration and turned through a barricade and drive through the crowd killing a bunch of people. No guns were involved except for the one guy who shot and killed the driver stopping his rampage.
Already I appreciate your respectful comment, it's rare. I don't want to ban firearms, but I seriously want to toughen up legislation on the subject. The U. S. still has the highest rate of shootings among developed countries, even compared to the number of inhabitants.
I'm not going to insult you. If not for the French there'd likely be no United States. And hopefully we returned the favor in WW2.
AS Far as your question goes, likely never. When that happens we cease to be the United States. It's number 2 of the first 10 amendments also known as the bill of rights. Theoretically any amendment can be amended. But the first 10 are INTENTIONALLY difficult To do so. Because they signify who we are as a nation and what we stand for. As an American your right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
About 99% of gun owners go through their entire life with guns and never have any issues themselves or with the authorities. The problem is that 1% which doesn't constitute taking guns away from all. Fix the loopholes, stricter restrictions on purchasing a weapon, more severe punishment for weapon violations and automatic death sentence for using a weapon in a crime.
The question should be, when are the anti-gunners going to do some real research and figure out that the guns are NOT the problem? Yet they continue to blame guns when a little research and rational thought makes it obvious that it's not true.
The anti-gunners just want an easy thing to point their finger at.
Apparently an infinite number. Voters in red states would rather see their children killed (Uvalde) than have sensible gun laws. No other developed nation in the world has anywhere near the number of gun deaths we have in the US. There was a school shooting in Australia decades ago and they immediately passed legislation to prevent another. This was completely successful, and there hasn't been another.
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They need to be able to do a more complete job of doing background checks. That includes medical records. If a person has a history of mental illness or is on some form of medication for mental illness they need to submit to further screening/ The vast majority of shooting s have one thing in common, the shooter is a nut case and nobody is surprised that they did it.
About 50% or more of people think about it all the time and wish we could have better reform. Maga extremists think more guns fix everything and the other Republicans think it's just ok as is. They think the current laws are doing everything perfectly.
It's not all Americans don't care. The majority of us do and not one politician that takes legal bribes from the NRA, aka campaign donations, nothing will change. It's disgusting
IIn a society that allows violence to be used as a problem solving tool, it is not the gun, it is the violence. Barak Obama and the Affordable Care Act gutted mental health treatment to pay for insuring the uninsured. Geraldo Rivera started the closing of mental health institutions with his expose on Willow Brook. Every time the government fixes one thing, the unintended consequences created by government intervention cause a new problem that is worseâŚ
Aperently you have no knowledge of Willowbrook. I was there many time work related and saw the horror foisted in the helpless people there. People wallowing in shit all over their bodies lack of food and supervision lack of medical supervision care takes involved with male and femal patients. Thank God for Rivera. The problem with that was it forced the close of many good place throwing the people out in to the local streets with little or no help which is still a problem to this day
@onedarkcloud I understand that part of it but the unintended consequences were that instead of fixing the problem the operators of these facilities closed because it was cheaper to close than fix.
When you figure out how to rid the streets of all the illegal guns, we can talk about legal gun ownership. Until then, you're only punishing people who aren't breaking the law.
We're talking about Americans here... Newtown was multi 6 year olds and some, one shot 11 times leaving four inch holes in his tiny body. If that does nothing to change a country nothing ever will.
It's kind of a moot point since the deaths are due to societal decay rather than guns. Gun ownership is in the US constitution. The only people trying to get guns away from people are those who would get shot for what they are trying to do.
@julie07 I wish gun ownership or lack of, were the answer to the monster murderer today in Minnesota, and in his case, as twisted this son of a bitch was, he would have found another way to murder those young children.
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Most gun related crime are committed using illegally obtained guns, so gun ownership isn't the problem. Taking everyone's guns away will not solve the problem, criminals will just shift to using other tools and methods to commit death and destruction. The US has a huge mental health problem, and until we deal with it, no amount of gun control will fix things. Part of our mental problem is the result of divisive MSM and over medication.
Not going to happen. We understand that gun ownership is what keeps us safe from others both inside and outside of country. The real question is how many deaths until people realize that gun free zones are the problem?
Bingo!!! I'm D_Bone_Steak and I second this answer.
@OhMyMan Yes! An armed society is a polite society. Most of these cowards only pull out a gun because they know their victims don't have one. Think about why mall shootings slowed down... they keep getting shot. They/them in this latest case ended they/them's own life because the police were coming and instead of facing that... they/them became was/were as a self inflicted choice. They/were should've done everyone a favor and just started with that final outcome and left defenseless children alone.
Bingo!!! I'm D_Bone_Steak and I second this answer. They'll let them off with no bail if they're black, then wonder why the black crime is so high. Meanwhile white boy will get locked up for even mentioning a gun during a fight.
Then the retards just blame culture and the bigger retards think it's genetics. It's a 2 tier justice system. One will get money when they apply for welfare and the other most likely won't.
so what are we going to actually do about it? people post these things all of the time, but they never actively look for ways to do something about it.
We need less gun regulations and more people should own guns and know how to use them. Someone is less likely to shoot up a crowd of people when they will get shot at too.
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