Do you think New York City’s socialist experiment will succeed or fail?

[SolitarySolace]

New York city’s socialist experiment begins - www.thefp.com/.../coleman-hughes-new-york-citys-socialist-experiment-begins

It will succeed

It will fail

[exitseven]

It will fail miserably. For the record, communism has not worked anyplace in the world EVER. That being said. Mamdani's plan is to tax the shit out of the rich, and notice that he has not specified who is considered rich. The very rich has already fled NYC four years ago. Every year NYC loses people with good jobs that pay taxes. Biden let in millions of illegal aliens and a lot of them washed up in NYC because of the generous welfare benefits. The population stays stable but the demographics has changed. Now the balance between the people that pay taxes VS the people that are on welfare has tipped considerably towards the non working population.

The Dallas/Ft Worth area has almost as many workers in the finance sector as New York has. Some of the bigger financial companies have been building facilities in Texas and will soon be moving most of it's operations out there. Other companies are moving out as well to more business friendly states. When they move, a lot of employees move with them.

there will not be enough taxpayers to fund all the free stull he has promised to pander for votes. Couple that with the fact that the city will lose most of it's federal funding it is sure to have a negative effect on the whole city that will persist for years after Mamdani has gone.

[loveslongnails]

For the record, the guy isn't a Communist, and yet there's another thing you apparently can not define. You also can not read a graph any better than a few months ago either. You and your ilk just think NYC is a welfare state, but you don't think red states are, even though they suck up most of the money the blue states contribute.

Here's one thing we know for sure... Scump's idea of an economy is dead freaking disaster. The GOP HAS no economic platform OR ideas. You guys are DEAD in the water. As I said, IF you could read a chart, you would know that the US Economy EXPANDS under Democrats and contracts while adding to the National Debt under the Guardians of Pedophiles party. Learn to read a chart.

Speaking of the negative effect on a place that will linger like radioactive shit when they are gone, that's a perfect description of your hero, Scumpie and the fascists.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails he calls himself a socialist but if you really listen to him he wants to rid the world of the mechanisms that enabled Donald Trump to become a billionaire. In his acceptance speech , it was full of his "Power to the people" schtick. He thinks he is Fidel Castro. He is a real commie.

[loveslongnails]

Ridding the world of people like your hero would be a good thing. Power should be in hands of "decent people" who care about the well-being of all. Problem with your idiot and those like him is they make money at the EXPENSE of other people's suffering. You're just terrified of finding a humane alternative, so you just fear monger and repeat stupid shit.

[Cidknee]

It may be a very good learning experience for the dim-witted leftists. After they watch the hierarchy live like royalty while they all struggle for beans they just might get it.

[BadApple69]

This clown has promised NYC the moon but will give you nothing.


Look at his promises:
Free buses - the buses are not controlled by the city but by the state. The new communist mayor has no control of the buses.


Cheaper rent - private citizens own the building that people rent. The mayor can’t change what they charge.
A government food store - food stores work on very small profit margins like 1% - 3% so do the math… how much cheaper can it be even if he could acquire a building, line up all the venders and get all the employees. Now he wants also wants a $30 minimum wage. So this store will cost more to run than other stores.
Now the $30 minimum wage - if this came true all the small businesses would have to leave the city. Fast food would be gone and no one would be able to eat at a restaurant. So many businesses would have to close their doors. Businesses would have 2 choices automate and fire employees, or jack their prices way up.
He said he wants to empty the jails - when that happens it’ll be like escape from NY the movie. We will have to put up a wall and keep all the NYC criminals locked in the city. Be honest… how will that help the people from NYC? Not arresting robbers, rapists and murderers will only lead to total chaos.


I don’t remember all the promises he made but they are all like this…. Not realistic. He will be a total failure as a mayor and this “socialist experiment” that has failed everywhere it’s been tried will not work in NYC

[888theGreat]

Like Trump did?

[BadApple69]

How is the border these days? Just yesterday another country joined the Abraham accords.
Inflation is down to 2 - 3% from Biden’s 17+
Trump said he was going to do something about crime…. One he is getting rid of illegal gang members and criminals AND going into the big cities with the national guardsmen and cleaning up.
Trump is doing everything he said he was going to do. In many cases there isn’t a fast fix for all the shit Biden broke. Be patient.

[888theGreat]

Real inflation is 13% ro 15% . Everything higher here. Half of Biden's inflation was Trump's Tariffs his first term. Trump is getting rid of everyone. Even Green card and American citizens if they are brown with accent. He is even getting rid of people one day before they become citizens.

[BadApple69]

You realize that Biden could have removed tariffs but he didn’t. He actually increased the tariffs. Get your facts straight.
And Biden’s inflation was due to the
American Rescue Plan Act ($1.9 trillion), and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act ($1.2 trillion).
You can’t spend $3.1 trillion of money on credit and not cause prices to go up.

[Chazmatazz269]

It will be a grand success for the same people who have been successful under capitalism. It will be devastating to the same people who have been impoverished under capitalism.
It doesn’t matter what you call the economic system. The rich always get richer and the poor always get poorer. That’s the way it’s always been. That’s the way it will always be.

[Cormac995]

Even if they didn't have a pro Palestine, pro illegal immigration asshole in charge it will take decades of consistent good policy decisions to fix New York. One man cannot save that God forsaken state.

[Lliam]

Who knows. It's hard to know what policies they will actually institute.
I'm just glad that gun-grabber, ultra-Zio Bloomberg lost.
I fully support Mamdani's stance toward Israel and his vow to arrest international criminal Nosferayahu if he tries to enter New York. A large percentage of the Jewish population in New York voted for Mamdani for exactly that reason.

[exitseven]

they will not be happy when Msmdanis Muslim friends want to have another Holocaust in Central Park.

[Lliam]

@exitseven. Uh, it wasn't Muslims who committed the holocaust. And it's Jews who are committing one today.

[mysteriousNicholas]

@SolitarySolace it will succeed - seems the powers that be in the universe 🌌 are wanting to see a trial run of "democratic socialism" - lol they'll say "if it can work in new York City, it'll succeed as the new world transition from capitalism to democratic socialism"

[genericname85]

pure socialism doesn't work. I don't know what exactly that expeirment is. but the problem of our current capitalism is that infinite growth is the carrying pillar of it and we all know infinite growth isn't possible in the real world. so it would be smart to replace that pillar before the building collapses. and it will collapse if we don't. there's no question about it. cause market saturation happens for everything. we can't keep acting as if financial growth is infinite.

[Miristheiss]

Socialism, state controlled collectism that deprives individual liberty has NEVER worked.
NEVER.

[DrPepper12]

Y'all seem to think NY mayor is a powerful position. It's not. NOTHING gets done without Washington, Albany, Port Authority, uniformed services, Board of Ed, unions, etc.

Google it. I dare you.

[Ariesman81]

@DrPepper12

Just ignore it, it's not a big deal

[noohair]

Socialism is an economic theory. It is flawed. It is designed to control people not economies. It will destroy individual free choice.

[888theGreat]

Like US Healthcare? Like US Social Security? Like US property Taxes?

[noohair]

@888theGreat Like elaborate.

[FunkyMonkee]

They all fail. Some people just refuse to learn from the mistakes of others and HAVE to learn the hard way!!

[Kaneki05]

Islam is opposed Marx views therefore voting for such a supporter of it is not socialism.

[Ariesman81]

If he's an actual islamist.. he will use socialism to topple the city. Why do you think all Muslims run under the Democrat Socialist party?

[Kaneki05]

At some point it will hit a crossroads because both directly conflict. You can't have religious dogma under socialism.
An example of this has already start to show over here UK where a rally of them shouting 'Allah Akbar' but noticeably when the left white folk came out to support them both parties self segregated with the Muslims on high guard towards them yet... they're both on the same side right?
Because reality is all them Muslims are quite conservative not liberal and they don't care about progressiveness just their dogma. And more they'll push I think more lefts will see this hopefully and realize Islam was never on their side.

[Ariesman81]

It's definitely a contradiction of the highest order. You'd like to believe it's benign, but I highly doubt it. Based on what we've seen around the world and close to home, it is another invasion. Again, perpetrated by leftists who are naive to the religion. How does one wake someone up who is voting for their own slaughter?

[slatyb]

New York isn't going to be a socialist experiment. The government isn't taking over businesses.

[Pohjolan]

Its not going to get off the ground in the first place.

Guy is just a mayor.

[888theGreat]

Break even. if Republican there are problems , if Typical Democrat there are problems.

[Amur8711]

Oh it will probably succeed in destroying the City like the leftist plan.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Mamdani xseems a bright young man, so he'll hopefully succeed.

[msc545]

It will probably succeed since the vote yesterday tells you exactly how well capitalism hasn't succeeded. And how well Republican white wing racism hasn't succeeded.

[Kelly6]

@msc545 exactly

[SolitarySolace]

Where else has socialism ever succeeded? Because I’ve never heard of such a system so destructive people intentionally flee it ever succeeding anywhere

[exitseven]

how do you expain the fact the capitalism has the lowest poverty rates than communism?

[Kelly6]

@exitseven please send your resource.
China’s poverty is way down

[exitseven]

@Kelly6 yes, that is why they have to put up suicide nets to keep people from killing themselves.

[Alex-Snow]

Experiment... get a grip