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Some months ago I started a Combat Sambo class, although it focuses more on the stand up striking side of the sport. It has similarities to MMA, Jujitsu and Thai boxing, and the class is a good mix of guys and girls who train and spar together. I’ve gained some belts and have started the more intense and full-contact sparring sessions. However, my girlfriend is unhappy because the sparring matches in this sport allow full contact groin strikes (see link below), and apart from padded grappling gloves, no one wears any body protection. My girlfriend wants me to take my skills to a less ‘brutal’ form of martial art, but so far I’m enjoying this class and the people I train with. So if your boyfriend attended such a class, would you be accepting of this? Or would you want him to quit and seek a less ‘risky’ martial art? 🤔 Thank you.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo_(martial_art)#Styles
“Combat Sambo allows…groin strikes”.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo_(martial_art)#Styles
“Combat Sambo allows…groin strikes”.
What Girls Said
If you really like it, I won't ask you to stop. I mean when you are dating someone, you are not controlling him.
We all know guys are more tempted to take risks and be implied in more aggressive activities
Thank you, yes 🙂 she’s just worried about when I get kicked there and for any possible damage, but I just try to explain it’s part of the sport and of course I’m going to do what I can to not let that happen.
Yes I mean I understand that she's worried but it is your own decision. You can try to reassure her that injuries are unusual
Yes, while kicks to the groin are quite common, serious injuries and damage are not, and that’s what I’m trying to explain to her 👍
kicks to the groin are quite common? Not sure it will reassure her, knowing how guys usually complain about it 😂
I guess when you know it’s within the rules from the very start, guys have no right to complain about it when it happens. It’s only really common during mixed fights though, the guys tend not to go for each other there! Maybe it will be impossible to fully reassure her, I probably shouldn’t have mentioned how common groin strikes are! 😬 I guess she just worries about me, which is nice.
Yes it makes sense and I guess you're tougher than regular guys in such a class but of course she couldn't be happy if you said it is common.
So you won't try a kick if you get a chance? Even it is within the rules as you said?
I guess she’ll never be fully happy while I’m doing this class, but like you say it’s my choice to do it and take the risks that go with it. If I don’t take ‘low blows’ too often maybe that’ll satisfy her. I don’t think I’d ever kick to a girl’s groin, it just doesn’t feel right to me. I’ve only ever kicked guys full contact to the groin when I’ve been losing. I often try to win by other means if possible, but I will kick to the groin if I am in a losing position.
But I don't understand, you said you try to avoid it, is it still seen as cheap move? Even if it is allowed?
It’s not seen as a cheap move, because it’s a standard move allowed under the rules. It’s more a personal thing, I would never kick a girl there because that just feels wrong 👎 but with another guy I feel that I want to try and use the techniques I have learned as part of the sport first, but if that’s not working I’ll go for a full contact kick to the groin, of course. I think girls use it more because guys obviously have a greater physical presence most of the time, which is understandable, and it’s not seen as a cheap move when they do that to win either.
I see and I also feel that the girls are more likely to listen to the instructors, so they use everything they learn 🙂
Does it always give you the upper hand in a fight?
You’re probably right about that 😂 and I guess groin strikes only give the upper hand to whoever uses it. Against girls they have the upper hand, but against guys both competitors have an equal chance of using it. It’s a bad way to lose though.
It makes sense. So if you manage to kick there, you're always going to win?
A full contact kick to the groin is always a guaranteed win. That’s why the girls go for it at every opportunity, and why the guys do too given the chance. Guys are a little more resistant to using it, I think because they can sympathise better with how it feels to lose that way, but they still use it and I have too. Not many martial arts allow this, but it’s a very effective finishing move.
I understand, I guess no one is going to refuse a guaranteed win of course
I hope you don't mind I ask, but how does it feel to lose that way?
Well yeah, I think when the opportunity presents itself, especially being such a guaranteed win, everyone is going to take it, whether it be in the first or last minute of the fight. Oh, I don’t mind, you can ask me anything, I appreciate the interest. Well put simply it’s just pure agony! The moment of impact is just a sudden and unexpected shock and immense pain, you just scream out in shock like “Ooohh!!” and double over in pain. I guess depending on how you’re stood you either fall down to your knees or fall backwards onto your back, and just end up rolling around onto your side all curled up holding your groin and screaming out in absolute agony! It’s a great way to win, but a terrible way to lose. This is why the guys hold back from using it, but the girls go for it every time.
Yeah don't tell your girlfriend then, because even if you know it is painful, you don't want to hear that
So from what you said, it's not a guranteed win on a girl?
I’ll maybe play down to her how painful it is and how frequently that happens then. I’ve seen girls take hits there, not so common, but it’s like 50/50 whether it’s a winning kick or not because, while painful, it doesn’t seem as bad for girls and sometimes they can continue the fight.
Yeah, she probably doesn't need to know everything, I wouldn't be comfortable knowing all that even though people are ok after a couple minutes
The guys are not ok after “a couple of minutes” 😂 they’re down for over 15-20 minutes sometimes, and can even miss classes depending on the damage.
Really? I didn't realize that, I understand you girlfriend now. Thats seems quite long though 😮
When a guy takes a full contact front kick to his groin that lands perfectly, it’s an immediate knockout blow and he can go straight down for some time. Serious permanent damage rarely happens as far as I’m aware, but a guy can suffer enough damage to keep him down in agony for some time, which can also put him out of a number of classes too.
I knew it could keep you down but if it leads you to miss some classes that seems hard 😑
Not always, I mean your evening is definitely over, but you are likely to only miss classes if the kick causes severe bruising and/or swelling to the testicles. Not a nice way to lose matches and miss classes!
Sounds pretty bad, I can understand why guys are so inclined to ban it everywhere
Were you forced to miss a lot of classes because of that? That's not going to make your girlfriend feel any better
It is, and I can understand why such strikes are banned in many martial arts, but to practice a real life kind of situation all kinds of strikes and defence needs to be practiced. I’ve missed maybe 2-3 sessions to recover from the damage caused by a kick to my groin, so yeah, maybe I’ll keep the information I tell her to a minimum and try to keep her reassured. I guess it’s nice that she’s so concerned about me though.
It makes sense, but I'd feel bad if a guy missed a class because of me 😐
Well that’s nice 🙂 many girls don’t seem to care, so thank you.
I don't know, I'm surprised.
Maybe because guys always pretend they can't be hurt so girls don't realize, especially if they are quite young
The younger girls in the class and the new starters can often be shocked when they see or actually kick a guy there for how much agony the guy is in. Sometimes they just giggle like, obviously they know exactly what they’re doing! The older and more experienced girls do know exactly what they’re doing and how devastating it is. That’s why it’s such an obvious and popular finish move for them to use I guess.
I don't know, they maybe giggle because of the reaction
But people there must be special, I'd think they are stronger than usual. I don't think regular people would do it
No. But two conditions. Spar with people who know how to spar properly and train hard so you don't get hit too much.
Thanks 🙂 I do train hard and because no groin protection is worn there is heavy focus on trying to protect the groin area. What do you mean by “spar with people who know how to spar properly” 🤔 because guys tend not to go for the groin much, but girls do kick to the groin often because it’s a guaranteed win.
Hi 🙂 could you answer please 🙏 I haven’t had any other answers than yours. Thank you 😊
I already did.
I’m asking about what you mean by “spar with people who know how to spar properly” please? 🤔
Proper sparring etiquette.
If you don't know what that is you should probably go to a different club.
Ok, I guess you mean spar under the rules and fight to win 👍 which is fair enough.