I don't drive but my best friend has a VW Golf GTE, he really likes it but doesn't loke the limited range and charging time. Longer journeys he switches back to his petrol car as the e-golf generally only gets around 100 miles on a charge and then it's a good 5 hour charge even at a 7.2kw charging station. When he had the charging point put in at home, he had to have his entire house rewired as it wasn't compliant to ve safe for the changing point, which cost him about £3,000 not including the cost of £700 for the charging point itself. Now with the two recent massive increases in electricity costs in the UK he is now considering getting rid of the car as it's going to become so much more expensive to run than his petrol car. Seriously out electricity costs have gone through the roof not even funny, we had a 12% price increase in October last year and just yesterday we had another energy price increase of 54%. You didn't read that wrong, that was 54%. Makes owning an electric car pointless. Then of course there is the cost of battery replacement which manufacturers say is around 8 years but the reality is it's actually about 5 years and can cost anything not £10,000, there's also the issue of recycling these batteries which in itself takes up huge amounts of electricity. While in theory EV's are a great idea sadly the technology just isn't there also the infrastructure isn't really available yet to make them very viable. And on top of that as more and more people moved to electric vehicles more and more power is needed to be generated unless it is a completely green method of generation this is going to increase pollution. Green energy has its own problems such as wind and solar cannot be fully controlled and I'm not always on generation, the only fully reliable methods of energy production for always on our are gas, coal, nuclear, and in some instances hydro. And we all know how people feel about fossil fuel powered power stations and nuclear power stations. There is no easy answer to this solution, and for the time being we are going to have to continue living with it if people want to continue having electricity and using cars, the combustion engine cannot die because we cannot sustain counties full of EV's.
"A lot can and will break on hybrids, because you have all the parts of gas and electric cars. Plus the compatibilty systems."
I been watching a lot of video about priuses and they mention that these cars don't have some of the things a normal gas car will have... like an alternator or a belt for instance
Not yet, cause I haven't seen a good electric SUV or Pickup yet that can drive 500 to 600 miles on a single charge, tow up to 27,000 pounds or so (I know electric motors have excellent power to tow) and have a charge time of about the same time it takes to fill up a tank of fuel and can be charged up when I'm in the mountains where no charging stations exist. While also being same or cheaper than existing fossil fuel vehicles.
I am very curious though how long they last and what long term maintenance costs are, like my brother has a diesel pickup with 500,000 miles on it, still going strong with no major work having to be done on it yet. I wonder if electric vehicles will be similar or more costly over a 20 to 30 year period, if they can make it to a a half million miles or not. Having to rebuild everything to get there is not cost effective.
In theory should be cheaper to fuel up if cars become less expensive it would be a viable option. My aunt has one, she's getting rid of it because it always runs out of charge at the worst possible time. Maybe as car where you are going to work and there's a charge point there but can you imagine you had an emergency and needed to go to the hospital at 2am. It's certainly the way things are going. The government will make them cheap to buy and run until they are more common then tax the shit out of them. Me I'm happy with my diesel car.
Funny you should ask! My EV is being given its annual DOT inspection. I will give my experience with mine since last August. Without naming brands. The only repair that it needed was a circulation pump that cools and maybe also warms the main batteries. Otherwise the rest of the 4500 miles have been trouble free. The EV had a “window sticker “ range of 260 miles. The manufacturer recommended charge is to keep the charges between 30 and 80 percent. Only charging to 100 %if the extra range was needed for your trip. In below freezing weather, 80% will give you a range of @195 miles. In warmer temperatures, 80 % will show @ 220 miles. Since new, the car’s computer shows an average of 3 miles per kilowatt. The main battery pack on this EV is @ 80 KW. That was mostly local trips. Not sure of mileage range on longer travel. The car is very fun to drive. But you need to plan your charging to be ready for future travel. I have installed a level two charger in my garage. Didn’t need a professional electrician. So the cost was minimal. At 15 cents per KW. It cost me about 7 dollars per 120 mile charge to the batteries. My level two charger is adjustable. At 12 amps it takes about 15 hours to charge from 30 to 80 percent. At 40 amps it takes about 5 hours. Now for the cons. Or what they don’t want you to think about before purchasing an EV. The colder the weather. The shorter the range becomes. Turn on max defrost, I loose 20 miles or more range. Providing that you run the defroster continuously. Any accessories in use will shorten the range of that charge! Before buying, ask what the max accepted charging rate is on a level 3 charger. Mine is 125 KW. Some must be 350 Kw, since I have seen those chargers out there. That would make a major difference in charging times while traveling. Mine will take around 40 minutes to charge to 80 % on a level three charger. And lastly. The more weight in the vehicle, the shorter the range per charge. I have heard that a certain EV truck will only give 90 miles per charge while towing max weight? Just a few things to think about before buying. An EV is not for everyone and everyone will not want one!!! Hope this answers some questions.
I’d rather own electric nipple clamps that just plug directly into the wall socket! look, I have nothing against electric cars (if it’s for only commuting around town, and you only got it b/c gas is so expensive) but I’m just so sick of people bitching about my Jeep, b/c THEY drive a Testa because THEY “actually care about the environment” to which I go on my diatribe… “really, and when they were tearing the Lithium out of the ground, strip mining in Canada, was that environmentally friendly? Or the child labor used to get the cobalt out of the ground in the Sudan, was that the morally right thing to do? Or when they put ALL that cobalt and lithium In diesel trucks and diesel trains and drove it to the nearest coast, was that environmentally friendly? Or when they used heavy diesel equipment to load it all onto diesel powered ships and shipped it across the planet to china to be processed in a country w/o regulations banning dumping toxic waist into rivers… is that environmentally friendly? Or when they had to ship it to Japan to be turned into batteries, or when those batteries were diesel shipped back to the states, or diesel trucks moved them to the Tesla plant? Eh? Oh, and when you charge that clean environmentally friendly car… What were they burning to create the electricity? Fuckin’ virtue signaling hypocrite! At least no children died to build my Jeep!
I will say this about HYBRIDS. My friend/roommate owns a 2015 Prius, that used to be her moms, she loves it. And since my jeep gets 18mpg at best, and Judy’s Prius still gets almost 54mpg, I’ve been borrowing it to drive back and forth too visit my mom 3 or 4 times a week… while I hate being so low to the ground and unable to see over or around, well… anything. I DEF love using less than 3gals to get to moms, and the same to get home! But I still don’t think I could ever own one except maybe as a second car, just for long distance driving!
Don’t blame you. But the question was more about electric cars, i. e. the Tesla. I only added the comment about the hybrid, as I think until the technology and infrastructure improve, fully electrics are just not practical for anyone who can only afford on car for themselves. (Which would be 99% of the population).
My aunt and uncle have both a Tesla S and a Chevy Volt. I also have coworkers who have one (Nissan Leaf?).
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The Tesla S, I have driven it, and it was a joy to drive. Very powerful and responsive. It is actually my goal to purchase a Tesla as a present to myself when I start travel nursing. I am hoping by 2024 the self driving feature is fully autonomous, and the range is beyond 500 miles for a charge. I'm also hoping the harbor where I live puts in some charging stations.
My coworkers said they have spent so little on fuel, it's incredible. Like haven't bought gas for a year and saved hundreds or more.
I currently can't really have an EV, because I live on my boat in the harbor, and my parking situation is that I purchase a parking pass each year for my truck, and my motorcycles park for free. But there are no charging stations for public at the harbor, so I can't sustain an EV.
One of my goals is to have an electric car but I won't be able to buy a car in the next 5 years or so. I've heard that they're more expensive, that their batteries don't last long but you end up having less expenses.
As all cars are in shortage so are electric to make it worse the battery metals are starting to have a shortage. Strip mining for these metals is far worse for the environment than drilling for oil! Then these batteries need frequent maintenance and exchanges
I think they work as a commuter vehicle or if you live in a city and are fortunate enough to have a heated garage. But I would only buy one if I moved out further from the city and I would keep my gas power vehicles for everything else. You could look into hybrids. Ford and Toyota have done some pretty good work. Not as fun as pure electric but from a practicality and long term standpoint, especially in suburb and rural areas it’s the only other option.
Gas is about to go through the roof... gas cars will be outlawed within a couple of decades for all but the ultra rich and powerful. You can bet military gear will still be gas powered but us regular citizens will be hampered by electric cars that can be turned off remotely at any time and require a shit long time to refuel so our mobility is extremely limited.
I have a Hybrid Toyota Ascent which is pretty popular here in Australia. Working 2 jobs and saving I was able to buy it myself very recently. Before that I had a beaten down but faithful old 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer for 2 years as my first car.
My Uncle bought a Telsa and it's nice! The only thing I don't like about it is that when he get's it recharged it takes a while. So we have to sit around and wait.
I hear from on TV that the owners of these cars are falling victim to these cars being vandalized so many people won't buy them cause the cars end up being vandalized this is the only thing I know about them.
battery life is probably the #1 issue I have and reason for not jumping in now. I would want 500+ mi range and I mean actual range not manufacturer saying 500 and it actually gets 450 max. That and I need the infrastructure in place so I can charge in more places. It would be fine if you could get a top up while shopping for 30-60 minutes, or 2 hours spent at the cinema.
@OddBeMe I've always wondered what it would be like to own a Leaf. I would use it as a second car, for short trips where I'd be back home before needing a charge. How many miles per charge did your model get?
@ArrowheadSW about 150 or so when I would test it. Older model. But usually you recharge every night. But yeah, I’m in texas so I wouldn’t be able to drive that sucker across the state.
Tesla batteries look promising though. Still, until there’s charging stations half way
@OddBeMe Ah OK that is twice the milage of the original Leafs. When I first looked into them, they were running 70 to 90 miles per charge. I heard a few years back that they were going to make them to go about 220 miles per charge. Not sure if those are on the market now or not. I can easily look it up. Yeah I'd just use my other car for long trips anyway.
@ArrowheadSW now I’m second guessing myself. Because I also had a Prius too. But either way, the battery is key. Technology is getting there. Teslas are said to get 300+ miles per charge. But like the EPA gas mileage rating, who knows.
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Cons: They are more expensive and have less range than a regular car Pros: No catalytic converter for people to steal, free to charge if you're hose is solar powered.
My job has some electric cars I drive before. I really see no difference of a gas car. It might take some time to get to the desire speed but after that it's great.
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