Would you be upset if your fiancé wanted to go abroad with her female friend on holiday?

[Anonymous]

It’s just the two of them on a long weekend break in Europe

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1 y

Just to clarify I mean I want to go on a trip with my female friend and my male fiancé isn’t keen on it

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1 y

Thanks for all the comments. Jeez I didn’t realise it’d be such a big deal for a girl to go on an innocent trip with her friend. Would the answer change if she had a night away at a spa retreat with her friend instead? No chance of sex with a randomer then!

[Finchie40]

If your fiancé doesn’t want you going then you don’t go , you aren’t single anymore , your girlfriend needs to understand that you are a package deal now and going without your fiancé can cause resentments in your relationship especially , if you choose your friend over your partner, whether your fiancé is worried that you will be up to no good or your fiancé is worried something could happen to you while you are there and he isn’t there to protect you etc , it doesn’t matter, you never choose Your friends over your partner , but remember next time your fiancé wants to go somewhere with his friend without you , you have every right to tell him no as well , so it has nothing to do with insecurities it comes down to respect for each other , most people don’t grasp this concept and think oh it’s not fair , they are insecure and don’t trust me , but it has nothing to do with that , it comes down to respect for each other , Also think how your fiancé is going to feel if you are away without him ? Picture yourself in his shoes if he was away with his friend? Your mind is going to race with thoughts on what he is up to? Relationships are hard but they don’t have to be when you remove selfishness for each other and prioritize each other , you should want to experience new places with your partner not with some friend you should of did that shit when you were single , the whole meaning of a relationship is sharing things together going through obstacles together having each other’s back whether they are right or wrong accepting each others flaws but always making each other your number 1 priority that’s the only way love grows , when you learn to remove selfishness for each other and understand that you can’t always get your way and giving a 100 percent to each other that’s where love grows , understanding you are not single anymore living separate lives, if you wanted a separate single life then you should of never got committed in the first place , if your girlfriend single that wants you going with her? If she is then she needs to find a single friend to go with her instead , if she isn’t single and her husband or boyfriend is ok with her going do not compare your man to him , Most guys that don’t care about their girlfriends leaving are guys that are up to no good , they can’t wait til she leaves with her friends , so don’t think otherwise lol

[serious_miss419]

A woman can still be with her friends when she’s engaged or married. If she isn’t allowed then that’s a red flag 🚩

[Finchie40]

Yes she can have friends no doubt , but out of respect for her relationship she should never choose her friends over her partner , meaning she should never exclude her partner when it comes to making decisions, if her partner doesn’t like something she is doing she shouldn’t just take it upon herself to do it anyways and act like it’s her way or no way , when she does that she is damaging the relationship because she is only thinking of herself and the same goes for him as well , if she doesn’t want him doing something he should wear her shoes as well and understand you can’t always be right and they are wrong , it’s called respect for each other , When someone loves you they don’t do things that can cause fire in a relationship a loving guy or girl doesn’t need to go in environments that bring resentments into a relationship like bars or clubs etc places where toxic shit happens all the time if a partner needs those things in their life then they truly don’t love their partner they just like the convenience of them , they will be a convenience until the replacement comes along , for love to grow you have to remove selfishness for each other and respect each other understand that you are not single anymore , Most people will just say oh they don’t trust me I can do what I want don’t listen to them they are just insecure that’s usually words from a toxic friend , a toxic friend will try to pull you away from your partner feeding your head that your partner isn’t good for you a good friend will support your relationship and respect it as well not trying to come in between you , Most people don’t grasp this concept and then they wonder why the got dumped or cheated on

[Subarugirl]

Dude that is bull shit. My mother has gone on trips to Europe many times without my father, because she wanted to go and he didn't and so he didn't mind if she went without him. She brought me along on a few of them and that is how I got to visit Austria and Germany when I was 11, with my best friend and her mom.
That is also how my sister got to visit England and France when she was a baby.
My mom and two of her closest friends from her bible study group visited Peru and hiked to Machupicchu 3 years ago.

Traveling without your partner doesn't automatically make you selfish. My parents have been married for 30 years now.

[Finchie40]

Ok that’s because your Dad was ok with her going , but if he wasn’t ok with her
Going and your Mom went anyways that would make her a selfish person cuz she is only thinking of herself.

[Subarugirl]

It would have been selfish of him not to let her go

[serious_miss419]

Wrong Mr Finchie, friends over spouse. It’s healthy for a couple to have time apart. A good man will say “yes babe go enjoy your time”. A girlfriend or wife is not a possession and if said husband or boyfriend doesn’t like it, then the couple needs to re-evaluate their relationship when she returns.

[Finchie40]

Not necessarily, their could be a lot of reasons , finances is one of them , or expecting him to take care of all the responsibilities while she is off enjoying herself , bottom line it just comes down to respect for each other , why you should never make decisions without including your partner , things like that cause resentments in the relationship

[Finchie40]

And if your choosing your friends over your spouse then you are in for a rude awakening

[Subarugirl]

She takes care of all the responsibilities when he's gone for weeks at a time. Why shouldn't he take care of things when she's gone for a week?

[Finchie40]

Then there is nothing wrong with that , as long as they are both ok is all I am saying

[D_Bone_Steak]

😂 That's like fucking around just to find out. If the worst-case scenario doesn't happen... then the stage is set to have to let it happen again and again until it does. Just a matter of time.

There is no real-world need for a guy's or girl's night out unless you're trying to fuck other people and not get caught. The same rule applies to these trips. The best-case scenario is the girls will fight because one of them wants to be loyal to her man and the other feels like she's being cock blocked. Guys doing this is just hands down going to be fucking cheap whores.

[D_Bone_Steak]

After the update... I'd like you to just do a google search. "My girlfriend/wife went on a trip with her friend and this is what happened." ... or however you'd want to word it, but just look at the results.

You'll quickly see why there is a skew on what the infamous female friend's trip out has such a reputation. I could tell you what I've seen myself to make it just that much worse. We have terms for it like "hot girl summer" and whatnot for reasons.

I would ask you as a person to analyze, why you need to go out with a friend to a place and do what? I would ask further if your friend is single or is a cheater herself... because if she wants to go out for the reasons of boys, why are you going? If you catch any hint of that from your friend then there is a really good chance your dude see's it too. He might not be keen on the company you're wanting to keep more than his trust in you. You know... birds of a feather, flock together... and you'll always see that amongst women. I mean it's why we dudes have the wingman... to take the fat chick out of the picture and get what we want.

Anyways just do that google search if you want to understand why I'd imagine a lot of us are thinking what we're thinking. ... and if that isn't the point, then why go at all? What's the point really? Blowing money on what... and with a friend... away from him... completely normal? Dig into yourself and figure all that out.

[ZoeyMercer]

I think you should clarity. Is the fiancé female or male? Is the fiancé straight?

1. Not a problem if the fiancé (female and straight) is going with her female friend

2. Red flag if the fiancé (male and straight) is going with his female friend

[Asker]

I’m the female fiancé goi g with my female friend

[Bricealan]

Hmmmmmm?

[Anonymous]

okay, so you (female) and your best friend (female) want to go on a trip abroad? i see no problem with it! the only thing you should have to do is just text him every day that you're safe, then go about your business and have fun.

[Backnforth]

I encourage my partner to go on vacations with her friends when I'm not interested in going myself. I know she isn't going to do anything shady like cheat on me because we've proven that we can trust each other.

If either one of you has to keep an eye on the other, or can't trust the other to be independent, then it's a bad sign that needs some work.

[ZoeyMercer]

Fiancé usually means male so most people are thinking that she’s asking if it’s okay if her fiancé goes on a trip alone with one of his female friends.

[Backnforth]

@ZoeyMercer Thanks for the correction, I didn't know there was a distinction between fiancée and fiancé. The replies from the asker say that she is the one going, so there's a bit of ambiguity

[Asker]

No he’s right I’m a female going with my female friend

[AviatorTom]

The question is confusing. A fiancé (one e) is a male, yet the question then says "her". A female, by the way, is a fiancée (two e's).

If the question refers to two girls going abroad, that's not a problem.
If the question refers to a guy going abroad wit ha female friend, that would be weird.

[KostasKouvalis]

Oh they're going to fucking Europe! Fuck that! Hell yeah I'd be upset and jealous. I wanna go to. Though it depends WHERE in Europe. If it's places like London, Paris and Rome I'm fine staying home

[Asker]

He doesn’t wanna go abroad so it’s a chance for me to and it’s a free trip too

[KostasKouvalis]

Go then

[KostasKouvalis]

Where you guys going?

[Asker]

Prague

[KostasKouvalis]

That's it?
He's still missing out

[KostasKouvalis]

Wait, you said he doesn't even wanna go, so what's his fucking problem?

[SnowedIn]

Go forth and have a great time is what I would tell my fiancé or my now wife. If your fiancé isn't keen on it, there's a problem in your relationship.

[SnowedIn]

Regarding your update: just go. Your life.

[Jhunitor]

I would not mind, as long as she is not going to use it as an excuse to do anything shady (Vegas-like trip with male strippers or drugs for example). He seems quite paranoid and controlling (except if he himself wants to go to a trip with you)

[Jhunitor]

On second thought I think I can help you understand why he feels that way : Imagine that your guy always get girls checking him, coming to him offering him their numbers and asking him on a date? Imagine if he was able to get tens of matches every day on Tinder. Imagine if drunk guys were able to get away with groping women like women get away with groping men?

[Bricealan]

My wife went to SF with her girlfriend before we got married, and I'm sure her girlfriend ate her pussy on that trip

[Bricealan]

Don't know for sure, but my wife said that her girlfriend wanted her to go with her and be lesbians. She, the girlfriend liked my wife's ass, and told her that. So a good bet she ate my wife out.

[Anonymous]

Well I would probably dump you, not only that I would ask myself if you are in love with you friend but also what you teo would do being free like that. I am a bit teritorial and... if a man and woman can't get their souls very close togheter to a common vibration it feels weird to me

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I mean, not being included on the trip would be kind of a bummer, but that would be about it.

[lightbulb27]

I wouldn't love it, but I'd accept it. I'd want to go.

When she wants to go to places I'm not interested in, it's fine.

you need a boyfriend...:)

[exitseven]

I would be angry but I would let her go. Then I would have my own weekend in the future,

[Subarugirl]

No lol if you dont trust your partner, then they shouldn't be your partner

[KrakenAttackin]

Trust isn't binary.

[KrakenAttackin]

And if you have seen American women overseas you would completely understand the issue.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin I have. I’ve been to both Europe and South America

[KrakenAttackin]

Have you seen American women at bars when overseas? Holy shit they are cock hungry.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin Well if they are just going there to get laid of course they are no different than anyone else that goes anywhere with the intent of hooking up.
No everyone who goes to a bar, goes to one with the intent of hooking up with a random stranger lmao

[KrakenAttackin]

Most do. Don't play dumb.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin LOL can't make up your mind? First its women who go to bars are cock hungry, no your saying only some haha
I never have, neither have my parents, and I know plenty of people who do not. I'm not sure what kind of people you surround yourself with, but if that's the norm in your social circle than it would make sense why you have that mentality.

[KrakenAttackin]

Going overseas without her fiancee and with a single friend is a recipe for cheating. Full stop.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin lmao you don’t have to go over seas to cheat. If she wants to cheat, there is no logical reason as to why you’d spend thousands of dollars on a trip to Europe, when she could find a hook up in less than an hour at home 😂

[KrakenAttackin]

Clueless. Going overseas with a single friend is a full throttle cock hunt.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin well it might be for you but not everyone is as reckless ass you are

[KrakenAttackin]

I'm not the reckless one, I simply observe and process.

[Subarugirl]

@KrakenAttackin birds of a feather, if those are the people you surround yourself with it’s not surprising that is what you see.

[kellytheman]

Yeah girls should have the right to have a trip with one of her girlfriends or have a girls night. It be nice for you too you can just hang out at home and do anything you want or hang out with your bros.

[KrakenAttackin]

Yeah, no way. Overseas trips are all about getting strange.

[SlavicThor]

Not at all - I'd tell her to go and have fun

[DaddyRollingStone]

Honestly I wouldn’t want her to go. Not because of you cheating but because its really expensive to fly to Europe and you could stay in country for way less money.

[_Just_A_girl_]

oh no are you going too? let them go n ho anyway. in fact its dumping tine. the disrespect is crazy !

[linka_pat307]

Definitely upset

Just let him he shodnt go because he has you to do such

[Asker]

Nooo it’s me who is going

[linka_pat307]

You are going someone's fiance or... Confused?

[Fuentes]

Lol Id I was your fiance and you asked me this the whole realtonship will be over

[Asker]

What’s that?

[Fuentes]

If**

[Fuentes]

I'm saying I would have dumped you if you asked me travel abroad with your single friend

[Asker]

If I want to go on holiday with my girlfriend you’d dump me? Why? Lol

[Fuentes]

Yes I feel this is common sense. If you wanted to do single women activities then your free to be single and go do them, just not with us ever in a relationship again.

[Asker]

But if he doesn’t want to go on holiday abroad?

[Fuentes]

Then your friend needs to find another single friend to go with her.

[KrakenAttackin]

Asker... because you will end up with some other guy (s) dick in your various crevices.

[Fuentes]

@KrakenAttackin can't marry these chick's no more lol

[KrakenAttackin]

Fuentes. So true.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like a bad idea to me.

[Asker]

Why’s that?

[Opinion Owner]

Because the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[TrillXHippy]

Why would I be upset about my fiancée that’s a woman going somewhere with her female friend to Europe?