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Texas Driver Arrested Over Profane Anti-Trump Message on Truck (Page 2)
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I think the prosecution is going to have an uphill battle as a very similar matter was addressed in Cohen v. California in favor of the defendant.
Her arrest had nothing to do with the sticker. She was arrested because she had a warrant for unrelated charges.
that was the "fuck the draft" case, right?
First admenendment rights , do not include the right to offend , terroristically threaten , liable or slander another's character or character assassination.
Actually, the "right to offend" is most definitely the POINT of the 1st amendment.
@Regular1. The right to offend the actual subject at hand , not offend personally at others
Speech that is not offensive does not need protection. The First Amendment was created precisely to protect speech that some may find offensive, understanding that this is the speech that would be censored.
Not understanding this very basic concept is proof of poor logic, or the willingness to limit freedom for the advancement of one’s own agenda. The former is just a demonstration of real ignorance, the latter is a truly venal approach to a free society.
— Michael Bowler
“A law that can be directed against speech found offensive to some portion of the public can be turned against minority and dissenting views to the detriment of all.”
--Justice Anthony Kennedy
@Regular1. Correct , that's my point !! Read between the lines...
No idea what you're talking about then.
@Regular1. Your correct at the subject at hand. But to personally attract an individual outside of the subject is where things are wrong
Attack**
But here's the funny part of it all (oxymoron ) , when you offend someone , you cut off they're hearing and both of you argue at each other like two
Fools.
I dont get how she get be so stupid. you have a warrant and you put a sticker on your truck that will obviously get police attention. typical anti Trump idiot.
Its funny when its a liberal no body is complaining, what about the children...
Uh... literally people were calling and complaining... what about the children to the Sheriff... which is why he put out the all call on the truck in the first place.
They should look up civility. there's no need of that sign being in someones window and it brands them as a rude person who has no social skills.
Profane cuss words aren't protected under the first amendment, you'll be asked to leave in most places if you cuss.
Good. Pro Trump speech has been being censored for months. It works both ways.
She wasn't arrested for having an anti-Trump sticker. She was arrested because she was already wanted by the police for something completely different and the sticker just drew attention to her.
Bingo. If you shout out to the world "Here I am!" it should not be surprising that if you have pending charges against you already, law enforcement will say, "There you are!"
And conservatives continue to sit and cry that gay marriage legalization is the biggest threat to freedom in this country.
She was arrest because she had a warrant out for her for fraud.
@Thisperson98 The prosecutor reached out to the sheriff and advised she would accept a disorderly conduct charge.
Actually the district attorney didn't say that.
@Thisperson98
'Nehls said a prosecutor already told him she could charge the driver with disorderly conduct, which Texas defines as using “abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace.”'
I never said anything about the district attorney.
A prosecutor is a district attorney... Also the DAs office already denied that they have spoken about it and said they would not take the case.
@Thisperson98 'In the United States, a district attorney (DA) represents a state government in the prosecution of criminal offenses, and is the chief law enforcement officer and top prosecutor of that state's jurisdiction.'
A state only has one DA but there are several prosecutors under them.
I should have said they work for the DA. But if the DA says it there will be no charges, then there will be no charges.
You want hate speech policed but only when it offends you lol
@Pie-Rack44 I dont want hatespeech policed.
Eh, I'd just leave it to local authorities and courts to sort out, that said I don't think it's illegal.
Though... MAYBE it could be classified as fighting words.
Americans HAVE to learn that they can insult everyone but not divine POTUS Trump
Pro free speech. There's no reason to say she should have to remove it and be fined. That's a dangerous America to live in... more so than now.
Do you want freedom of speech or offensive speech policed because you can't have it only for what offends you?
@Pie-Rack44 Am i not allowed to speak against offensive speech? i don't want any speech policed.. doesn't mean im not going to speak against it.
In the UK you would be arrested for incitement (at a guess) for that. And/or some other law banning offensive words or gestures.
Her bumper sticker isn't protected under the 1st Amendment.
Is too
It isn't meaningful political dissent
That's your opinion. The Supreme Court disagrees.
No it doesn't.
The supreme court doesn't care.
She has the right to free speech. Why are we even discussing this?
She was arrested for fraud.
Because she's an idiot. If you have outstanding warrants for your arrest, don't put a bumper sticker on to draw attention. Not that hard.
@Kiran04 good point
obscenity isn't protected by the first amendment, especially when its out in public like that
Dill Doe,
Read and learn :
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
@BigRayFromNC "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Tell me where I can get a new machine gun.
@Thisperson98 First of all why would you need or want a new machine gun?
If you really knew anything about the 2nd Amendment back in that time era when the U. S. Constitution was put into law not one single person knew what a machine gun was as nothing like that ever even existed.
It is a Federal Crime punishable up to 20 years in a Federal prison to have or own any automatic weapons so if you should obtain a new machine gun that you want and when you are caught no one on here will be seeing you for a very long time.
In my opinion the 2nd Amendment needs to be updated and modified because you do not have the right to keep and bear arms unless you pass all criminal background checks and having your fingerprints taken and ran through the FBI and if a person passes all of that perhaps they are issued a gun permit.
I remember going back when I first applied for my concealed carriers permit and it took 9 months from the start to the day I finally got my concealed carriers permit.
@BigRayFromNC So? It doesn't change the meaning of the second amendment.
She wasn’t arrested for the sticker.
The first amendment supports truck balls!
Another vulgar liberal freak
Lol... anyone who voted for Trump should not talk about someone being vulgar.
@EllieAyye I didn't vote for trump
Doubt it
@EllieAyye I voted for Gary Johnson. But whatever. Clearly I insulted your feminist hero
Lovely sticker, you go you whoever made it.
"protect and serve" eh?
Yeah, right